May 9, 2019

"A tiny vial no larger than the palm of his hand, he told the group, contains roughly ten million live stem cells, harvested from the placenta, amniotic fluid, umbilical cord, or amnion, the membrane that surrounds the fetus in the womb."

"Injected into a joint or spine, or delivered intravenously into the bloodstream, [retired orthopedic surgeon David] Greene told his listeners, those cells could ease whatever ailed them. On a screen behind him, Greene displayed a densely printed slide with a 'small list' of conditions his stem-cell product could treat: arthritis, tendinitis, psoriasis, lupus, hair loss, facial wrinkles, scarring, erectile dysfunction, heart failure, cardiomyopathy, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, asthma, emphysema, stroke, Alzheimer’s disease, multiple sclerosis, ALS, neuropathy, pelvic pain, diabetes, dry eye, macular degeneration, kidney failure.... Greene said that amniotic stem cells derive their healing power from an ability to develop into any kind of tissue, but he failed to mention that mainstream science does not support his claims... [A]n industry has sprung up in which specialized clinics offer miracle remedies from poorly understood stem-cell products.... [M]anufacturers harvest the cells from tissues donated by women who have recently given birth, and the cells are then frozen and shipped to clinics.... Greene acknowledged that most patients don’t understand the difference between embryonic and other types of stem cells, and that the language he uses in his seminars is largely guided by market research. 'When you look at what people are typing on the Web, "stem cell" is the No. 1 key phrase,' he told me. 'That is the key word that the public in America understands.'"

From "The Birth-Tissue Profiteers/How well-meaning donations end up fuelling an unproven, virtually unregulated two-billion-dollar stem-cell industry" (The New Yorker).

50 comments:

Achilles said...

It is a promising field with money flowing to it.

The government parasites are circling for their cut.

traditionalguy said...

Snake oil is back. If it was real, it would be highly regulated so that only the rich and powerful could have it.

clint said...

Sadly, $2 billion is still a small fraction of the snake oil sold as medicine.

Heck, you can buy homeopathic medicines (aka water and sugar pills) through the Althouse Amazon portal.

Lucid-Ideas said...

"The Birth-Tissue Profiteers/How well-meaning donations end up fuelling an unproven, virtually unregulated two-billion-dollar stem-cell industry"

So Planned Parenthood? Right? Bueller?

Gospace said...

No way in hell would I let stem cells that weren't harvested from my own body be injected into me. So far, stem cells from others lead to cancer and strange body growths. Never understood why anyone ever thought this would be a good idea. Proven to work stem cell therapy has come from harvesting stem cells from one's own body.

Nonapod said...

The peddler rattles his cart into town with viles of his health tonics. Only these days there has to be a bit more of a vague connection to sciency sounding stuff. In fairness, stem cell therapy isn't entirely quackery, it's just that it isn't some magic cure all just yet.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

It Might Work! needs its own tag.

robother said...

Stem cells from random donated umbilical cords, or great big gobs of greasy grimy gopher guts. Pick your poison.

n.n said...

Proven to work stem cell therapy has come from harvesting stem cells from one's own body.

The medical progressives and affiliate corporations, including Planned Parenthood et al, are acutely phobic of documenting their work, methods, and sources (e.g. recycled-child), and auditing inside the walls. The assumptions/assertions of viable therapies have reached liberal proportions on many mislabeled propositions.

n said...

Theranos 2.0

mccullough said...

Sounds like the adults who buy breast milk

Michael K said...

My wife came in this morning shaking a copy of the local paper with a huge ad for this stuff,

gspencer said...

"Greene told his listeners, those cells could ease whatever ailed them"

An elixir for all of us.

I knew I had seen that guy before,

http://cdn.curioushistorian.com/content/72220/475915090f12cfa724da33f63b30f098.jpg

Maillard Reactionary said...

People like this Dr. Greene are the scum of the earth. Trading on their professional status, they sell hope in a bottle with no evidence of benefit nor absence of harm.

It is a poor reflection on the medical profession that this sort of pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo is passed over in silence rather than loudly and publicly condemned. Professionals self-regulating! Ha!

One wonders how such a chowderhead as this could even get through medical school and pass his board exams. On the other hand, like Mehmet Oz, he's a surgeon. Could be a result of the lifetime exposure to anesthetic gas in the OR, I suppose.

Pity the poor people who lack a scientific education or family members in the medical trade. They are easy pickings for shysters like Greene.

Maillard Reactionary said...

I hasten to add: Despite my comments above (half-serious) about surgeons, present company excepted, Michael K. You obviously have your head screwed on straight, unlike this goofball.

n.n said...

Oh one hand, The New Yorker is attempting to get ahead of a gestating controversy with the hope of framing a narrative to defend the practice of selective-child and recycled-child. On the other, it may be an early indication that witch hunts and warlock trials are no longer viable, let alone politically congruent.

Sydney said...

It is a poor reflection on the medical profession that this sort of pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo is passed over in silence rather than loudly and publicly condemned. Professionals self-regulating! Ha!

The medical board of Arizona took his license away 10 years ago, according to the article.

tcrosse said...

Now, CBD oil. That's the ticket.

madAsHell said...

virtually unregulated two-billion-dollar stem-cell industry

Unregulated?!?! Hillary call your office!!

Kelly said...

I remember when it was imperative we use stems cells from actual fetuses. Bet there were no articles in the New Yorker about how it was unproven.

Maillard Reactionary said...

Sydney: Thanks for the correction! Not having read the article (obviously) it didn't occur to me that a doc who had his ticket pulled would still be referred to as a "retired" surgeon.

Gilbert Pinfold said...

Well, my son did have his Hodgkin's lymphoma treated successfully (so far, but lots of time has to pass to get out of those woods) with an autologous (self) stem cell transplant. Three weeks in isolation and no more immunity than a newborn baby. Right now he is finishing his first year at Wharton and getting married this September. And the other commenter is right--random "Stem" cells of uncertain origin is a recipe for bad things.

Wince said...

"Have you ever heard of... Stem Cell Politics."

n said...
Theranos 2.0

Indeed, my first thought too.

eric said...

Whenever I see something like this I immediately think they're talking about Marijuana.

Cures everything that ails you?

Marijuana!

JAORE said...


All those cures right in a doctor's hand. A DOCTOR!!!!! Youse guys are nuttin but a buncha pseudo-science deniers. Jail is too good for you!

Dave Begley said...

How is this scam any different than the global warming scam? We spend billions of dollars and maybe - maybe! - by the year 2100 avoid a 0.01 increase in temperature.

When is The New Yorker going to report on the global warming scam?

Howard said...

It's the Trump of the medical field

YoungHegelian said...

Mr. McGuire: I want to say two words to you. Just two words.

Benjamin: Yes, sir.

Mr. McGuire: Are you listening?

Benjamin: Yes, I am.

Mr. McGuire: Stem Cells.

Caligula said...

Freedom to Try vs. Suppression of Medical Quackery.

There's always going to be some tension between the two.

When the risk is primarily to one's wallet, the balance tends toward Freedom to Try. But when the risk to one's health is substantial (either because the treatment itself may cause serious harm, or because it prevents the sucker/patient from obtaining needed medical treatment) the balance tends toward suppression of quackery.

It's a shame Dr Google isn't more reliable.

gilbar said...

.. Greene said that amniotic stem cells derive their healing power from an ability to develop into any kind of tissue, but he failed to mention that mainstream science does not support his claims...

This is CRAZY! we KNOW what to ingest, and we KNOW where to get it; and it's Not This stuff
It is a WELL KNOWN FACT; that the blood of unbaptized infants, made into flatbread: THAT'S the Ticket!

lgv said...

For those unfamiliar with the research and science, embryonic stem cells have all sorts of positive effects sometimes The reason science doesn't support his claims is that the results are highly variable, random, and inconsistent. Someday, we may harness the potential of stem cells, but we are not there yet, so hang onto your wallet.

Big Mike said...

A doctor can correct me if I'm wrong, but to my knowledge the only successes from stem cell therapy to this point have come from adult stem cells.

Yancey Ward said...

Or the Howard of the comments section.

Yancey Ward said...

Somewhere, someone like Greene has to be hocking this as a penis enlargement drug.

Dave Begley said...

Science!

Appeal to authority!

Stem cells and global warming use the same rhetoric.

Nichevo said...


Howard said...
It's the Trump of the medical field

5/9/19, 3:09 PM


Where you been, Marine? Took you long enough to get your pecker up again after the last time. Getting old are we, soldier?

Fernandinande said...

'When you look at what people are typing on the Web, "stem cell" is the No. 1 key phrase,'

Let's look at what people are typing on the Web!

Motorcycle 86
Stem cell 4

Cancer 77
Stem cell 2

Trump 44
Stem cell 1

Garden 100
Stem cell 2

("Stem cell" is about twice as common as the plural)

Fernandinande said...

Stem cell 66
Alfred E. Neuman 3

So
Stem cell : Alfred E. Neuman :: Motorcycle : Stem cell

Tomcc said...

A dangerously deceptive quack. I admit though, when I read the post, my brain went to the recent tv commercial where a doctor is going into a patient's room and saying loudly "Hey! Guess who just got reinstated? Well, not officially..."

Mary Beth said...

Let's look at what people are typing on the Web!

I don't think he meant "stem cell" was a top search phrase, just a top phrase for people who are looking for woo-woo medicine. (Just my guess. I didn't read the article.)

Jersey Fled said...

In 2007 New Jersey proposed a $450 million bond issue to promote research into the use of stem cell therapies as a potential cure for "diseases and severe injuries such as Alzheimer's disease, cancer, diabetes, Lou Gehrig's disease, Parkinson's disease, sickle cell anemia and spinal cord injuries." This was back when all it would take for Christopher Reeve to rise up from his wheelchair was lots of public spending administered by all of the right people. While specifying stem cell research in general, it was heavily sold on the extraordinary promise of embryonic stem cells, and promoted by Planned Parenthood and the usual pro-abortion crowd. While we would continue to kill babies, it was all for our own good.

In a rare occurance of common sense, the voters of New Jersey voted no on the bill.

Now, 12 years later, without that public funding, we have promising therapies using adult stem cells, but for embryonic stem cells, nada.

Funny how that worked out.

tim in vermont said...

My suggestion? Advertise heavily on MSNBC and CNN.

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stephen cooper said...

Nichevo at 5:29 said : blah blah blah look at me pretending I am insulting a Marine!

Please let us know what you have ever done to be worthy to talk man to man to a Marine

Nichevo said...

Howard, please let me know if you wish to leave your defense to this poor man, or to conduct your own operations. More to the point, please tell him.

Nichevo said...

As for you, cooper, I've tried to leave you alone. I wish you wouldn't press me.

Etienne said...
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LakeLevel said...

Remember the stem cell ban?

-Republicans are so anti-science, they banned stem cells
*Uh.. no, they banned embryonic stem cell research from...
-Yeah so these fascists won't allow stem cell research to help spinal chord victims
*Uh.. no, the ban is not on all stems cells from aborted fetuses, you can actually use existing lines...
-We're gonna pass laws to use tax-payer money to fund this. In your face.
*Look, there have been no actual useful therapies that have come from embryonic stem cell research. Adult stem cell is where the promise is...
-You Republicans are so anti science. You're banning stem cells.

MacMacConnell said...

Aren't goat gland injections cheaper?