This year's event would have commemorated the original Woodstock, which happened despite a lack of readiness. But you can't redo the chaos part of it all. You can't plan chaos. If you're planning and it looks like chaos, you have to say no.
From the UPI report of August 16, 1969, "Thousands flee Woodstock chaos, mud":
WHITE LAKE -- Tens of thousands of young music fans today began abandoning the muddy chaos of the Woodstock Music and Art Fair.
Advertised as three days of "peace and music," the fair in this Catskill community has turned into a massive traffic jam in a giant mud puddle that has resulted in the death of one youth and the hospitalization of scores of others, many of them suffering adverse drug reactions.
"There's no reason to stay," said one bitter young man as he picked his way through stalled traffic on one highway that was used as a feeder road for the fair....
Even with the chaos and the continuing heavy rain, a crowd of at least 200,000 was gathering at noon for the first act of today's scheduled 12-hour pop concert. The opening was put off an hour, however, and there was some question whether it would start at all....
Adding to the problem was a steady rain and [one doctor] said he feared the thousands of young people would soon start contracting colds, viruses and pneumonia perhaps in epidemic proportions.
One observer said there were "sick people all over the place." On Friday night, an unidentified youth who appeared to be "high" on drugs, climbed to the top of an 80-foot lighting scaffold and either fell or jumped, breaking his back. He was taken to a hospital by helicopter, as were other seriously ill persons.
Hospitals throughout the area were reported to have been filled to capacity since Friday night....
Local farmers complained to police that corn and vegetable fields have been stripped of their produce as the fans sought to make do in the wake of a shortening food supply.
The enormous crowd was much larger than expected and Friday night the promoters joined with local police officials in a plea to those who might have still been planning to drive to the fair to remain at home....
Just before dawn, a state trooper stationed on the grounds shook his head wearily and said: "We couldn't get an ambulance or a tow truck in or out of here if we had to."
John Morris, director of operations for the festival, said by way of explaining the crowd that "something happened, something snapped. Every kid in the world is here."
Many did not pay the $7 for one day of concerts or $18 for the whole weekend because the mass of people went right through the fences. The fair promoters promised they would end "the free right" today, but by mid-morning they apparently had given up that idea.
They said they had stopped even trying to ask for tickets, but would continue the music as a kind of therapy to keep the huge crowd as calm as possible....
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The people that would attend Woodstock and did attend Woodstock in 1969 don't understand why the United States is different from 3rd world shitholes.
If they were in charge we would become a 3rd world shithole.
Citizens have rights because you can trust a citizen.
You can't trust these little shitheads, even though they are in their 60's now.
I hear they made up the lost ticket revenue on the brown acid sales. (The "bad acid"warning from the stage was actually a disguised promotion, sort of like the chaos itself.)
Leftists see no problem with walking through a fence and not paying to enter an event and stripping a farmer's cornfield of produce.
Part of being a leftist or socialist or whatever is your belief that you can take someone else's stuff, which they worked to produce, and give it to someone else and then call that fair.
Whenever these people take over a country that country goes to shit. It is utterly predictable and the root causes are clear.
Chaos is an order (e.g. human life) that is incompletely or insufficiently characterized and unwieldy.
Bummer, man.
"Leftists see no problem with walking through a fence..." Oh Jesus Fucking Christ. I'm a kid. I'm broke. There's a concert and I'm hopping the fence. That's my fucking motivation, not obedience to my overarching political philosophy. "Oh yeah, even though these are the greatest musicians in the world, I'm not going to walk through these gates because as a conservative I do not support handouts and I have the greatest respect for individual property rights" said not one teenager ever.
I can't believe just how out of touch with absolutely everything you have to be to begin sentences with "Leftists see no problem with (insert totally normal activity that any kid would do)".
"They said they had stopped even trying to ask for tickets, but would continue the music as a kind of therapy to keep the huge crowd as calm as possible..."
Hilarious. And why would you think "the Kids" were socialists, as opposed to spoiled Bourgeois?
...I can't believe just how out of touch...
We cannot believe how an alleged adult can fail to understand that many teenagers are sufficiently well-reared to have a sense of personal honor which forbids such behavior.
Is it evidently beyond the scope of Black Bellamy's intellect that the teenagers who flocked to Woodstock were a self-selected group of persons who had long before abandoned conventional morality and were thus inclined to trespass, despoil, and steal?
The 50 year commemoration at the actual site of the festival - Bethel Woods, is still scheduled to proceed.
It is a much more subdued set of events.
Ringo, Arlo Guthrie, Edgar Winters, Doobie Brothers are scheduled.
I see Santana as well. He was slated to perform in the now cancelled festival.
Socialism means never having to run out of your own money.
Last week, a representative for the festival reached out to officials with Live Nation and AEG to inquire about a $20 million investment to save the event, but both companies declined the offer....
More than $30 million has already been spent on the festival lineup, a source with knowledge of the proposal tells Billboard and most artists have already been paid by Amplify Live, the investment arm of Dentsu Aegis Network, a multinational media and digital marketing firm headquartered in London and a wholly owned by Japanese media firm Dentsu.
And why would you think "the Kids" were socialists, as opposed to spoiled Bourgeois?
Hilarious. And where do you think socialists come from if not from the ranks of the spoiled bourgeoise?
Ringo, Arlo Guthrie, Edgar Winters, Doobie Brothers are scheduled.
The walking dead.
EDH -- What you quoted is representative of capitalism. People with capital investing it to get a return. Or not, if they choose not too to take the risk.
"Never having to run out of your own money" is called an LLC.
Leftists have no problems with lawbreakers and will make sorry-assed excuses defending them.
Black Bellamy said...
"Leftists see no problem with walking through a fence..." Oh Jesus Fucking Christ. I'm a kid. I'm broke. There's a concert and I'm hopping the fence. That's my fucking motivation, not obedience to my overarching political philosophy. "Oh yeah, even though these are the greatest musicians in the world, I'm not going to walk through these gates because as a conservative I do not support handouts and I have the greatest respect for individual property rights" said not one teenager ever.
I can't believe just how out of touch with absolutely everything you have to be to begin sentences with "Leftists see no problem with (insert totally normal activity that any kid would do)".
Thank you for making my point.
Most people all over the world would do the same thing, not just the kids. That is why those places are shitholes.
I wonder why democrats want to lower the voting age to 16.
You need some self awareness.
Here's the website of the Bethel Woods center for the arts.
https://www.bethelwoodscenter.org/the-museum/woodstock50anniversary
This celebration is bound to pick up in intensity with cancelling of the upstate show.
Some CHAOS could develop after all!
Close the NYS Thruway down again.
Cancelled on the second anniversary of Fyre Festival, no less. I'm sure they had that in mind.
rcocean said...
"They said they had stopped even trying to ask for tickets, but would continue the music as a kind of therapy to keep the huge crowd as calm as possible..."
Hilarious. And why would you think "the Kids" were socialists, as opposed to spoiled Bourgeois?
Actually if you look back many socialists are spoiled shiftless rich kids who never had to earn anything growing up.
They never create anything of value themselves and this creates a gnawing hole in their soul and they lash out at productive people who are mostly in the private sector.
This describes almost all politicians in general. There is a reason most politicians are lawyers. Parasites are a normal thing when there is a healthy self sustaining organism.
"Leftists have no problems with lawbreakers and will make sorry-assed excuses defending them."
Yeah, Wall Street is exactly the opposite. And of course, the rich capitalists obey the immigration laws, that's why we have ZERO illegal aliens working for them.
Ahh .... the Boomers. Same stool, different day.
I was 16 at the time, had the money and knew people who were going. However, there was no way my parents would let me go. Not a snowballs chance in hell. I was disappointed. It would have given me lifelong hipness.
When I went to college a few years later, I was amazed at how many teenagers said they had been at Woodstock. Probably about 3-4 million.
Yeah, Wall Street is exactly the opposite.
Whataboutism, the last refuge of the insipid.
The "Woodstock Brand name."
Corporate douchebaggery.
Without the Chaos what's the point? I can watch a concert on TV, and be comfortably chaos free. Chaos is the unique experience of the thing.
Who knew Sha Na Na was so popular?
Chaos is like a box of chocolates.
"When I went to college a few years later, I was amazed at how many teenagers said they had been at Woodstock. Probably about 3-4 million."
Crazy as it may sound but that is about the number of people that were at Fenway Park (capacity 33,000 +/-) on the afternoon of Ted Williams final at bat! Crazier still, you would be amazed how many people were there that hadn't been born yet. ;-)
You can't recreate a moment and if you try will only be disappointed. Better off just living with the memory.
Promoters of Woodstock X™, well, they have different motivations.
You can't trust these little shitheads, even though they are in their 60's now.
Point of information. If they were in their twenties in 1969, and nearly all were, then fast forward fifty years and they’re in their seventies now. (The state of math education in this country is way past abysmal.)
Rock and roll is dead.
Put that on a post-it, and put it in your wallet.
DEAD
The 60's repeated as farce.
It is dead. I listened to clips of the "top 20" rock songs of last year. Had to turn the hearing aids all the way down to 0.
"many of them suffering adverse drug reactions"
Culling the 1969 herd.
Unfortunately the herd has really, really grown.
It has the Woodstock label, but it is Not Woodstock, merely a mimic.
There's a certain schadenfreude watching foreigners blow their money on really bad US investments.
Ringo, Arlo Guthrie, Edgar Winters, Doobie Brothers are scheduled.
I wouldn’t mind seeing those guys. I have seen Winter several times. There’s no “s”. The original Woodstock lineup was amazing.
Chaos!
That lineup was pretty sad. No rock and roll at all. Say what you will about the original in `69, the 25th in `94 and the infamous 30th in `99... but if nothing else at least they had some actual rock bands.
But the reality is that the majority of young people today don't listen to rock and roll and haven't for some time. What's more, most don't even really attend concerts either. That's what old timers do. It's pretty sad, but that's the way things go.
One of my favorite bands of all time, King's X, had perhaps their greatest show at Woodstock '94. Here's a clip of them performing "Over My Head".
I’ve been friends with the owner of the Woodstock Festivals for 40 years.
Believe me, he’s a capitalist.
stevw, at 03:19,
At Ted Williams' last game, 09/28/60, the attendance was 10,454. That number is indicative that the post-WWII wealth curve really hadn't found its traction. 60 years ago really was a different time in this country. Money was tight.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BOS/BOS196009280.shtml
Obviously if that day were repeated today, tickets for the game would be going for 000s on ebay.
This was to be 150 miles from Max Yasgur's farm!
Permitting a/k/a government regulation.
Happy to see that the liberals of 1969 are suffering the consequences of their liberalism.
This is the same generation that gave us the Clintons. Screw'em.
@Ken
The original festival was supposed to be in Woodstock. Woodstock wouldn’t have it, so it was held in Bethel.
rcocean said...
"Leftists have no problems with lawbreakers and will make sorry-assed excuses defending them."
Yeah, Wall Street is exactly the opposite. And of course, the rich capitalists obey the immigration laws, that's why we have ZERO illegal aliens working for them.
This is a good point.
Most of the world operates in a system where the rich exploit the poor. The laws and the system were created specifically for that purpose.
The difference is in a free society, like the one we built, the employees were equal under the law. As a nation we had borders and laws and while people were free to be jerks to their employees, the employees were free to leave and go somewhere where they were treated better. The laws protected the employee from having shithead bosses replace them with cheap foreigners. Our government protected the average American from cheap overseas labor and countries that did not have worker protections.
There are people pushing for open borders, corporate regulatory capture, and "free" trade. They want to make the US like the rest of the world.
We are running them out of the Republican party as we speak and they are all cucking for their democrat allies as they always were. They are just forced out in the open now.
Big Mike said...
You can't trust these little shitheads, even though they are in their 60's now.
Point of information. If they were in their twenties in 1969, and nearly all were, then fast forward fifty years and they’re in their seventies now. (The state of math education in this country is way past abysmal.)
Shush! I thought about that, but didn't want to face it consciously.
My father just had his 70th birthday a bit ago.
I have to face it. I am old now I guess.
I am guessing the big issue is wheelchair accessibility for the original attendees.
Geez, were you guys ever young? I was there before my 19th birthday with two college roommates. Borrowed my mother's old station wagon and drove up from Virginia. I remember Country Joe, Santana and a couple others. Mostly just stared at all the weird people. Somebody let us sleep in a corner of their big tent. By the next afternoon we were so hungry that we walked miles back to the car, headed NW to get out of the crowds, hit the first greasy spoon we could find and drove home. Had no idea till then what a big deal it was. My parents were in a total panic. Glad I went.
"The difference is in a free society, like the one we built, the employees were equal under the law...while people were free to be jerks to their employees, the employees were free to leave and go somewhere where they were treated better."
Hahahaha!
To the degree that employees have ever approached equality to their employers, it was due to labor unions. With the diminishing of union membership and influence, employers are once again becoming more equal than their employers, to reference George Orwell.
As for finding employment where they would be "treated better," this too, was largely a result of unions compelling better treatment through contractual agreements. When employers are "free to be jerks to their employees" there's not much incentive for most to not be jerks.
I don't usually subscribe to the boomer-bashing that is de rigeur among a certain set of the right wing, but -GOD- is it nice that this festival is dead. Maybe now the geriatric journalists who talk about Woodstock and Camelot will finally shut up about it!
Or failing that, choke on a sock.
Personally, I love the fact that President Trump went ahead and cut the tax breaks for high-income blue urbanites. Now take it a step further. Whenever they try to hold big outdoor events like this to celebrate the spoiled wealthy, tell them the walls are illegal and have to come down. Watch the security frantically try to hold back the crowds, and laugh.
gspencer said...
At Ted Williams' last game, 09/28/60, the attendance was 10,454.
Though I didn't know the exact number I did know it was significantly below the capacity of Fenway. My reference to 3-4 million attending was a joke aimed at the great number of Bostonians that claim to have been at Fenway that day. As they say, it's not a very good joke if you have to explain it. :-)
As for the original Woodstock lineup: Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Alvin Lee, Carlos Santana, Grace Slick; there are no performers with equivalent star power, and rock n' roll chops, today.
I've always thought of this quote from "Cliff Clavin", only it wasn't from 'Cheers' but Ratzenberger's real life
This isn't the Democratic party of our fathers and grandfathers. This is the party of Woodstock hippies. I was at Woodstock--I built the stage. And when everything fell apart, and people were fighting for peanut butter sandwiches, it was the National Guard who came in and saved the same people who were protesting them. So when Hillary Clinton a few years ago wanted to build a Woodstock memorial, I said it should be a statue of a National Guardsman feeding a crying hippie.
John Ratzenberger
In the summer and fall of 1969, I was a 26-year-old Army Reservist in Basic Training at Fort Bliss TX and in CST (Combat Support Training -- I was trained to be a clerk) at Fort Huachuca AZ: The summer of Woodstock, the Manson Murders, and the Moon Landing. So I missed Woodstock. So I missed the Manson murders. But I didn't miss the Moon Landing. The Army ordered that basic trainees be allowed into the barracks Day Room to watch the landing on TV, and I watched. If we are remembering only Woodstock 50 years later, we perhaps have lost perspective.
I came upon a child of God.
@JK Brown: Thanks for the quotation from John Ratzenberger ("Cliff Clavin" from Cheers). I just rewatched "A Bridge Too Far", one of the really good WWII movies, and saw Ratzenberger playing a US Army 1LT - 2 lines, I think, but very credible.
"Whataboutism, the last refuge of the insipid."
No, its the first refuge of those in touch with reality. But sneering about "whataboutism" is a leftist rhetorical technique employed 247 by the Nevertrumpers for the last 2 years. Its a way of avoiding a losing argument, while pretending to make a point.
The "ism" at the end is the tip off. Nevertrumper and lefties are always accusing someone of being an "-ist" or believing an "ism" - its an old Commie trick. Your side is normal, the other side is Labeled.
"Talkin' 'bout Macular De-g-g-g-eneration"
nevermind the bad antacid going around
I was not around for the original Woodstock. But I would have thought that Woodstock '94, brought to you by PEPSI would have been enough to convince people that sometimes it is best to just let a magical moment in the past live in people's memories and don't try to recapture it. Because invariably a lot the magic is tied to people experiencing the unknown, and a mystery with perhaps little or no expectations. But part II is not the unknown, and people will definitely have expectations.
Woodstock about me, is the most powerfull festival of the world.
The music lineup was pretty good.
We are stardust, we are golden.
And we've got to get ourselves back to the assisted-living facility.
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Big Mike said...
You can't trust these little shitheads, even though they are in their 60's now.
Shush! I thought about that, but didn't want to face it consciously.
My father just had his 70th birthday a bit ago.
So, your mom and dad a couple of those evil boomers, eh? The cause of all our problems? That sucks.
It would be great if they hosted a Charlie Chan Film Festival instead.
I wonder who will be the last surviving artist to perform at Woodstock? There won't be many left for the 60th anniversary concert.....I came across a child of God who was just back from Woodstock. He and his friends complained about what a god-awful time they had had. I guess over the years he has had time to reconsider his opinion and now thinks those were the happiest days of his life....l.think if the Woodstock generation were going to irreparably damage America, it would have happened by now. Maybe the millennials with all their youth and enthusiasm can succeed where the boomers have failed.
Robert Cook said...
"The difference is in a free society, like the one we built, the employees were equal under the law...while people were free to be jerks to their employees, the employees were free to leave and go somewhere where they were treated better."
Hahahaha!
Just shut up and move to Venezuela already.
No place on earth has been better for middle class workers than the United States.
Ever. Anywhere.
Nothing is ever perfect. But our country is better than every other place in the world and the things that make it better revolve around freedom.
The unions had their place and at one time they did represent workers. That time is past. Now the Unions are aligned with the machine and their only goal is to get democrats elected and grease the wheels of the machine. They are even aligning themselves with illegal immigrants now rather than the employees they are supposed to represent.
And the rank and file Union Members are one of Trump's strongest constituencies. This is because they know he is taking on the machine for them.
The Unions have fallen because they no longer represent the workers. They became leaches and traitors just like the politicians in DC.
FullMoon said...
Got a Black Magic Caretaker...."
Thats gold! I'm 63 so I am too young to have been one of the millions attending Woodstock but honestly how narcistic a generation are we to think kids today are going to be interested in music that is between 35 years to 60 years old. I don't remember young people being all that interested in music from 1919 in 1969. The fact that septuagenarian rockers are still giving concerts is a tell, the kids just aren't all that interested in this genre of music.
Shouting Thomas said...
I’ve been friends with the owner of the Woodstock Festivals for 40 years.
Believe me, he’s a capitalist.
Short and to the point.
FullMoon said...
So, your mom and dad a couple of those evil boomers, eh? The cause of all our problems? That sucks.
They aren't all evil.
My Dad is one of the biggest reasons I ended up a libertarian. He took the opposite side in any discussion.
Then he worked as a public school teacher for a while. He voted for Hillary. It was an interesting discussion when I told them jail was too good for Hillary and Obama and justice for their crimes was a requisite for my continued support of this country and them.
"The Greatest Generation" started all of the ponzi scheme scams like SS and Medicare.
But those generations also got us to the moon.
Blaming generations of people is not the right path. It takes a little bit more specificity than that.
Achilles must have leftists coming out of his underpants.
"Hey Achilles, looks like a nice day."
"What do you know about nice days? Did you pay for that nice day? That's just like a lefty to have a nice day they don't deserve. Go have a nice day in Venezuela, you little shit. Get off my lawn."
Heh - an old Poptopia buddy created this poster to commemorate the other end of '69.
Altamont 50
The one huge distinction between. young, Leftwing idiots of the 60s and today, is that the Hippies had fun! True, they were totally irresponsible, but they knew how to party. They were crazy fuckers. Sex, drugs and RockNRoll - snowflakes and Incels not welcome.
Also, the fear of being sent to Vietnam, made the protests and riots much more intense.
The music back then was good too. I still love it. John Fogarty and his brother grew up about a mile from me - he was a legend.
The Leftwing youth of today strike me as mostly humorless, bisexual, transsexual college kids who tweet a lot and wear pussy hats.
After reading Ann's post and some of the comments I decided to listen to Marty Robbins, Merle Haggard and Johnny Cash. I graduated from high school in 1969, but mostly ignored the Woodstock era. I didn't like bell bottoms or drugs. Boot cut jeans and beer were a better fit.
Woodstock gave us AOC saying "but, like, um, you know".
50th year anniversary of one famous thing after another is coming up at us. A lot of interesting world changing things happened in those five years from 1971 to 1976.
The music back then was good too. I still love it. John Fogarty and his brother grew up about a mile from me - he was a legend.
The eastern world it is explodin'
violence flarin', bullets loadin'
You're old enough to kill but not for votin'
You don't believe in war, what's that gun you're totin'
And even the Jordan river has bodies floatin'
But you tell me over and over and over again my friend
Ah, you don't believe
we're on the eve
of destruction
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FullMoon said...
So, your mom and dad a couple of those evil boomers, eh? The cause of all our problems? That sucks.
They aren't all evil.
There ya go. Pretty much all bad, 'cept the ones I know.
@Achilles, when Woodstock happened I was in Basic Combat Training, having received my induction notice the day after Christmas, 1968.
I pulled KP the day Apollo 11 landed.
1969 sucked.
@FullMoon, if you'd pull your head out of your ass for a minute or two, and apply elementary arithmetic, you'd see that it was the generation between the "Greatest" (but not so great, given that they gave us Vietnam) and the Boomers did that most of the mischief. Clever of them to pass the blame along to us for fools like you to swallow.
Almost went to Altamont....
It was my understanding that Woodstock as a generational touchstone dated from the release of the Woodstock movie rather than the event itself. The movie came close enough after the event that the experience of seeing it in the theater replaced any memory of the actual event. It became the defining cultural moment for a generation because they made a movie about it. Just like Altamont.
The late 1960s were a real fulfillment of Isaiah 59:19. "When evil comes in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord will raise up a standard against him" Note: the Evil that floods in is a him.
The unarmed Jew who ran at the shooter in the California Synagogue screaming "I am going to kill you" so loud that the evil man froze in fear, dropped his rifle and ran away was such a standard raised up by the Lord.
traditionalguy - well yes of course.
We always knew that would happen.
Achilles comment reminds me of one of my favorite Mark Twain writings. “Never give up a chance to steal a chicken, if you don’t need it yourself there is someone who does”. Ho ho ho.
"By the time we got to Woodstock,
we were half-a-million strong..."
In 1994 they tried to do a 25th anniversary of Woodstock, and they had corporate sponsors like Pepsi, IIRC. Yeah, I don't think The Woodstock Generation wanted to be remembered as The Pepsi Generation.
"it was the generation between the "Greatest" (but not so great, given that they gave us Vietnam) and the Boomers did that most of the mischief"
True. Tom Hayden, abbie Hoffman, the older Beatles, were war babies.
The problem with the Hippies is that you had ambitious grifters like Bill & Hillary Clinton who wormed their way into politics and the faculties of many colleges.
Henry said...
Achilles must have leftists coming out of his underpants.
"Hey Achilles, looks like a nice day."
"What do you know about nice days? Did you pay for that nice day? That's just like a lefty to have a nice day they don't deserve. Go have a nice day in Venezuela, you little shit. Get off my lawn."
65 million people voted for Hillary. At least 50 million of those were actual people casting legal votes.
A similar number voted for Obama twice.
But something else is afoot as well. According to diGenova, and here is the tremendous breaking news: The FISA court has been looking into abuses of the FISA system and has communicated with the Justice Department about its findings. Their chief judge has already determined that for more than four years before the election of Donald Trump, there was an illegal spying operation (yes, spying — and, yes, illegal) going on by four FBI contractors to break the law to steal personal electronic information about American citizens and to use it against the Republican Party."
There are millions of people OK with this.
I know you sometimes you like to think your thoughtless posts are cute and witty. But mostly they are just thoughtless like this one.
It was my understanding that Woodstock as a generational touchstone dated from the release of the Woodstock movie rather than the event itself. The movie came close enough after the event that the experience of seeing it in the theater replaced any memory of the actual event. It became the defining cultural moment for a generation because they made a movie about it. Just like Altamont.
If I recall correctly, the movie came out in 1970. I was a HS junior dating a senior who was impressed that I knew all about Woodstock.
You are correct. The movie defined our generation and what we thought of ourselves.
Woodstock 50 Organizers Insist Festival Is Still Happening After Exiting Investors Say It’s Canceled
“Woodstock 50 is currently on a call with Dentsu and Woodstock 50 vehemently denies the cancellation of the festival and will be seeking legal remedy to the comments.”
Chaos is a ladder.
Nothing captures the true free spirit of the 60's better than "our corporate Japanese investors are pulling out."
I still can't figure out who would be the target market for this thing. Boomers are too old. Millennials are too poor. Gen X sees Miley Cyrus on the lineup and a $450 ticket? Hard pass.
And why would you think "the Kids" were socialists, as opposed to spoiled Bourgeois?
Because the 90s version of them, Occupy, were trust-fund-baby socialists.
You think the Hippies couldn't have been both also? That those two don't go together?
"You got peanut butter in my chocolate" said Bernie Sanders from the porch of his 3rd house.
It was Littlefinger, not Bran.
Blogger Black Bellamy said...
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I can't believe just how out of touch with absolutely everything you have to be to begin sentences with "Leftists see no problem with (insert totally normal activity that any kid would do)".
4/29/19, 2:33 PM
Waite...a...minute....you’re a leftist, aren’t you?
Btw that is not a ‘totally normal activity’.
At that time, Rose's record store stood next to Macy's on Mamaroneck Avenue in White Plains, NY. They had Woodstock tickets for sale, and my girlfriend and I planned to attend. However, after hearing reports of festival goers leaving cars at the side or the road, we changed our plans. I had just purchased a '62 Porsche, and there was no way that I was leaving that car along some road in Ulster County.
They want to prevent a replay of Woodstock '99. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodstock_%2799
I, too, was 16 that Summer.
Had absolutely no interest in going - I was too into "The Beach Boys" and "The Fifth Dimension".
I'm still pretty square.
Fen said...
That was Littlefinger, not Bran
It was more impressive when I said it..
Is it worth noting that there has been a sea change in what's considered acceptable risk?
In 1969 public swimming pools still had diving boards, and you'd get strange looks if you wore a helmet while riding a bicycle. Playgrounds still had jungle gyms, swing sets in these playgrounds still had those slippery stainless steel seats that worked very well indeed for those who wished to launch themselves in a parabolic arc off that seat. Lawnmowers didn't have "dead-man" switches that stopped the blades if the operator let go. And, yes, one could still find dangerous chemicals in a store-bought chemistry set.
For a variety of reasons we've become far more risk-averse since then. Which is why the idea of somehow re-creating Woodstock in 2019 is absurd. At a minimum and considering the advanced age of much of the audience, you'd need to be able to evacuate anyone having a medical emergency in minutes, for example.
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