March 9, 2019

"You remind me of a celebrity, but I can’t remember which one — who’s someone you relate to?"

Oh, no! This article about making small talk suggests that question. Be forewarned. If someone asks you that, it's not really because you reminded them of a celebrity. Don't be tricked into offering up the secret part of yourself within which you imagine that you're like a particular celebrity.

But you can tell me: What celebrity do you think you remind people of?

Also: If you get that question some day, here are some responses you can use:

1. "Did you get that question from an article about how to make small talk?"

2. "Althouse!"

131 comments:

Lincolntf said...

I've occasionally been told that I remind people (generally older people) of "a Kennedy". No particular one. That's no doubt based on my New England accent. Looks wise, I've gotten everything from Sean Penn (when I was high school/college age) to Cal Ripken. Althouse, for some reason you make me think of Candice Bergen.

Ralph L said...

2. "Althouse!"
Pump Up The Brand.

I was surprised back in the Aughts that my brother's BIL had heard of you, and vice versa. He was living at the Brooklyn end of the Bridge when we visited for Thanksgiving.
I look more like 2., so I don't resemble any celebrities.

traditionalguy said...

As a Scots Irish Presbyterian

rhhardin said...

Tiny Tim.

Phil 314 said...

In my younger years, Jon Voight or Ron Howard.

lonejustice said...

Some people have said I remind them of Charles Manson. But I don't have any face tattoos.

traditionalguy said...

My friends tell me that I look likeI a cross between Robert Redford and Manfred Rommel, depending on whether I use the smiling face or the other one.

The Godfather said...

I’ve got an Eastwood smile and Robert Redford hair.

Fernandinande said...

After being pressured, a couple of people said I looked like Carnac the Magnificent while wearing the hat.

DanTheMan said...

People often tell celebrities they remind them of me...

Fernandinande said...

Gumby. < sob >

Meade said...

3.Boris!

MadisonMan said...

"Yes, I'm mistaken for Aretha Franklin all the time"

I hope I would have the quickness of mind to say that.

Tank said...

When I was a kid I looked like Mickey Mantle. It didn’t last. The switch hitting never kicked in either.

Jamie said...

My husband and Gary Sinese looked so much alike back in the mid-90s that once my husband had to show a guy his driver's license to get the guy to stop pestering him for an autograph. They have since diverged somewhat.

Amexpat said...

A zen master said I was the spitting image of his good friend Leonard Cohen.

A director of film commercial I was in said I looked just like Chevy Chase.

Go figure.

Jamie said...

And can I just say, I hate having to do the image verification thing on a phone- I promise I'm not a robot, dang it!

J. Farmer said...

I've never been told, as far as I can recall, that I looked like a celebrity, but people have told me that I remind them of Chevy Chase, which I think is basically just saying I'm a smart ass, to which I invariably reply, "Better than being a dumb ass."

Lewis Wetzel said...

If someone asks me What celebrity I resemble, I tell them "that bad elf, what's his name, the one that tried to kill Santa."

Actually I look like James Spader. In the 90s we were spitting images. These days I am thinner than he is, and unlike Spader I still have all my hair.

Meade said...

"They have since diverged somewhat."

I know what you're taking about. Before I was (in my 50s) Boris Karloff, I was (in my 20s) John Boy Walton.

narciso said...

Some say a little like Ben affleck.

Fritz said...

I've been told I look like "Hacksaw" Reynolds.

Bob Boyd said...

"Boris"

At least it's not Boris Badenov

Ralph L said...

I realized with the newer, more forward vehicle head restraints that I have a bit of the Alien thing going on.

Rory said...

Milton Berle. I don't see it.

J. Farmer said...

@Rory:

Milton Berle. I don't see it.

From the neck up, that is certainly no compliment. But from the waist down...Berle supposedly had a monster schlong that he was quite fond of showing off.

Guildofcannonballs said...

I am Ron Howard # 2.

cronus titan said...

3. Bill Clinton. You remind me of Monica Lewinsky. We both know how it ends so let's get to it.

Lewis Wetzel said...

In addition to the bad elf (and James Spader) I've been told that I look like Brian Setzer. I went to the wikipedia page for spetzer, and yep, that's me. Wiki says he is older than me by a few months.

Unknown said...

I've been compared to a younger John Hannah. My fiancee is Goldie Hahn's doppelganger.

--Rt1Rebel

Limited blogger said...

Travis Bickle

"you talkin' to me?"

Wince said...

A cross between Tom Hanks and Mark-Linn Baker.

A weird hybrid of two live-in, not gay (but in one case cross-dressing) 1980s buddy show actors.

alanc709 said...

Younger, like Tony Stewart. Now I look like George Costanza.

tcrosse said...

Steve Martin, for the hair and the squint, until I grew a beard and lost the white suit.

stevew said...

In my 30's I was told I resembled Michael Keaton. Later in my 40's and 50's I was said to resemble Tom Hanks. Now I just look like an older version of myself.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Farmer wrote:

From the neck up, that is certainly no compliment. But from the waist down...Berle supposedly had a monster schlong that he was quite fond of showing off.

3/9/19, 8:15 AM

Thanks for nothing, Farmer! I immediately thought Berle doing the last scene of "Boogie Nights." It's not a thought I wanted to have with my morning coffee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHgpqLr0La0

Sebastian said...

Well, I know. A female health care professional, while she was delivering her service and I was I no position to object, told me that I looked like Handsome Movie Star. Which is sorta true. And also a great way to make a pass at me. Though I didn't take her up on it.

Georgia Lawyer said...

Younger: William F. Buckley. Presently: Phil Mickelson. Couldda been worse - coulda been Randy Quaid

J. Farmer said...

@exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil:

Thanks for nothing, Farmer! I immediately thought Berle doing the last scene of "Boogie Nights." It's not a thought I wanted to have with my morning coffee.

At least it wasn't with a street vendor hotdog or a Subway foot long.

J. Farmer said...

Wow, judging by the examples here, the Alhouse commentariat are a bunch of foxes. Doesn't anybody look like Paul Giamatti or John C. Reilly?

Mr. Groovington said...

Anthony Bourdain, haha. Tall, slim, good looking, adventurous, good resources, same age, travel 2nd and 3rd world countries full time. I like to think I’m better looking though.

Ralph L said...

I look a bit like Scott Adams with less chin and neck. Beard helps, even with a gray chin.

rehajm said...

In reverse order of appearance:

Blake Shelton
Blake Shelton
that guy on The Voice...Blake Shelton!
Andrew McCarthy
Like...a good looking Andrew McCarthy
Andrew McCarthy
Ha Ha! Beaker!
Beaker from the Muppets
That kid Jeremy from General Hospital!

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

I recently spent a fortune on new sun glasses. Maui Jim's. prescription.
I wear them all the time. While waiting in line somewhere, a younger gal told me I reminded her of Meryl Streep (ew yuck! I detest her).
ugh.

rehajm said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...

I really look like Lana Turner, Rita Hayworth, Sofia Lauren, and Cary Grant.

tcrosse said...

While waiting in line somewhere, a younger gal told me I reminded her of Meryl Streep

That's odd. You remind me of DickinBimbos@Home.

(Fourth try)

rehajm said...

Funny, I think I'm more of a Joshua Jackson...

I'm Full of Soup said...

Holy crap Meade - spitting image! Get a DNA test- you could be an heir.

About 20 some years ago, I was told I looked just like Johnny Oates, the baseball manager.

Virgil Hilts said...

John Malkovich (fortunately I consider him great looking).

William said...

I'm frequently mistaken for Justin Bieber.......My spirit celebrity is Max Von Sydow. At least, we have the same long face and general physique.. No one has ever remarked on the resemblance, but that's who I wanted to look like in my moments of spiritual anguish. Instead, I get nothing but these young girls pestering me for autographs and sex. How ironic life is if you're uncertain of the meaning of irony.

Josephbleau said...

Most frequently Jerry Lewis, except for the Betty Davis eyes.

Heartless Aztec said...

Tom Selleck or Miki Dora.

Mr. Groovington said...

Possibly, mockturtle’s celebrity doppelgänger is hot. A hunch.

Charlie Currie said...

In my late teens, I was regularly mistaken for Peter Noone. In my twenties, it was Andy Williams.

Fernandinande said...

Doesn't anybody look like Paul Giamatti or John C. Reilly?

I kinda look like Jeff Goldblum, it's my voice that reminds people of Gumby.

J. Farmer said...

@Fernandistein:

I kinda look like Jeff Goldblum, it's my voice that reminds people of Gumby.

Eh, Goldblum would still be a compliment. This thread reminds me of people who believe in reincarnation and invariably were kings or great adventurers in their past lives. Seems like nobody ever says they were an illiterate serf who died of dysentery.

Christy said...

All my young life I was told I looked like Elizabeth Taylor, but that was when Joan Rivers was making fat jokes about her so I wasn't particularly flattered. Then my cousin saw Laura Branigan in concert and was freaked at how much she looked, and moved, like me.

Jan Michael Vincent, R.I.P., was the spitting image of my brother. Brother was serving at the time of Airwolf and even had much the same wardrobe.

I've never much considered what other people thought of my looks to be a secret part of me. I learned, probably from a Scarpetta novel, that as a first approximation police artists will ask witnesses what celebrity the criminal resembles. Anyone know if it's true? (I know so much that just isn't so.)

rehajm said...

Seems like nobody ever says they were an illiterate serf who died of dysentery.

If it's any help I think your picture looks like a dashing Ed Asner, or the Burgermeister Meisterburger.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

My ice breaker is to tell people I'm writing a book on small talk and ask them what they talk to strangers about.

Lnelson said...

"I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific."
Lily Tomlin

J. Farmer said...

@rehajm:

or the Burgermeister Meisterburger.

Ha. Been a long time since I saw Santa Claus is Comin' to Town. Thanks for the reference!

Anthony said...

Since moving to Arizona a few months ago, two people have told me I look like Putin.

No idea where that came from.

Michael said...

I don't want to think about it.

FullMoon said...

Yeah, as your basic white guy, I always answer Denzel Washington.

cubanbob said...

I have never been told I resemble anyone in the least bit famous. It is good to know I am unique in an anonymous way.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

Once, in the Marshall Islands, Bruce Willis. Sadly.

rcocean said...

I'm often mistaken for a better looking Meade.

Henry said...

If a show is good enough, my kids and I will assign characters to each other, or someone else we know.

The original Nickelodeon Avatar was great. A lot of characters with distinct personalities offered a lot of choices.

I was Uncle Iroh.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

But a work-related person in Boston that I talk to regularly said I have a Morgan Freeman-like voice. I wish she hadn’t said that because now I feel like I have to modulate my voice every time I call.

Amexpat said...

Wow, judging by the examples here, the Alhouse commentariat are a bunch of foxes. Doesn't anybody look like Paul Giamatti or John C. Reilly?

I think that's because most people are polite and wouldn't say that you look like someone ugly.

A couple of years ago, someone gave me a long look and said I looked like Lorne Michaels. And then quickly amended to say a good looking Lorne Michaels.

James K said...

“Wow, judging by the examples here, the Alhouse commentariat are a bunch of foxes. Doesn't anybody look like Paul Giamatti or John C. Reilly?”

Someone told me I sound like Jimmy Stewart. Not sure that was a compliment. But I definitely don’t look like him. More like Beau Bridges. But handsomer.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Garage Mahal said my profile pic on here looked like a journalist but I can’t remember which one. I used to get Bruce Willis comparisons when my hair was shorter. But really I just have one of those types of faces that resembles someone you know. Almost every new person I’m introduced to says, “You remind me of someone.” I wonder if cousin Tim, who I do resemble, gets the same response.

rehajm said...

I think that's because most people are polite and wouldn't say that you look like someone ugly

I think that’s because most celebrities, even the unique character actors who aren’t necessarily leading man/woman material are better looking than the general population.

There’s an actor on Taxi, one of Ladka’s friends, who played a rather ghoulish charater. I was susprised even he was rather good looking in person..

J. Farmer said...


@rehajm:

I think that’s because most celebrities, even the unique character actors who aren’t necessarily leading man/woman material are better looking than the general population.

That's true.

There’s an actor on Taxi, one of Ladka’s friends, who played a rather ghoulish charater. I was susprised even he was rather good looking in person..

Vincent Schiavelli. He also played the subway ghost who taught Patrick Swayze how to move things in the movie Ghost.

effinayright said...

I remember someone referring to Charles Bronson as "looking like Clark Gable left out in the sun too long".

Heh

rehajm said...

Vincent Schiavelli. He also played the subway ghost who taught Patrick Swayze how to move things in the movie Ghost.

That's him!

Birkel said...

I want to say a cross between Abe Vigoda and King Kong Bundy, Kevin Hart, and Lorne Cardinal.

Just because who gives a damn?

Birkel said...

King Kong Bundy only because he died this week.
*pours some on the curb for lost homies*

tcrosse said...

The guys I went to High School with grew up to be the cast of The Sopranos.

Amexpat said...

I remember someone referring to Charles Bronson as "looking like Clark Gable left out in the sun too long".

The extreme closeups in "Once Upon a Time in the West" bear that out. For a man that's rugged good looks. For a woman that's an unemployed actress.

Roy Lofquist said...

From my youth:

Jimmy is a friend of mine.
He resembles Frankenstein.
When he does an Irish jig
He resembles Porky Pig.

buwaya said...

I have sometimes been accused of looking like Robin Williams, especially back when I had more hair. But I think my father looked more like R.Williams.

rehajm said...

I have a Morgan Freeman-like voice

Easy Reader, that's may name, uh, uh uh.
Reading, reading that's my game, uh, uh uh.
Top to bottom, left to right
Reading is uh, out of sight!

Maillard Reactionary said...

Younger, I was said to resemble Woody Allen (as he looked back then). I quickly ditched those horn-rimmed glasses. Now I kind of look like Ash the robot science officer from Alien.

My ambition is to eventually look like Burl Ives in his role as Big Daddy in Cat On A Hot Tin Roof.

buwaya said...

My wife looked like Linda Ronstadt.

Michael K said...

Vincent Schiavelli. He also played the subway ghost who taught Patrick Swayze how to move things in the movie Ghost.

He was great. We watched it a week ago.

I was standing outsideMidway airport a few years ago when a guy who looked just like Rick in Pawn Stars walked up. I asked him if that was who was built no.

As my whimsy leads me.. said...

On my new Ohio driver’s license, which is black and white and looks overexposed, I look like Andy Warhol. Other than that, I don’t look like any celebrity. Maybe if Sissy Spacek and Fred MacMurray had had a daughter...

Toy

tcrosse said...

The photo on my Costco card looks like the Shroud of Turin.

Ken B said...

At 30 I was told I look rather like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Now more a bald Dan Ackroyd.

AlbertAnonymous said...

Ugh. I would hope, if someone asked me that, that I’d have the presence of mind to answer “oh I get that all the time. Hannibal Lecter.... Want to come over for dinner ? I’m opening a nice Chianti...

AlbertAnonymous said...

“No? Ok suit yourself, I see other potential victims in the room...”

J. Farmer said...

@AlbertAnonymous:

Ugh. I would hope, if someone asked me that, that I’d have the presence of mind to answer “oh I get that all the time. Hannibal Lecter.... Want to come over for dinner ? I’m opening a nice Chianti...

It always bugged me that Anthony Hopkins mispronounced Chianti in that scene.

Ralph L said...

a first approximation police artists will ask witnesses what celebrity the criminal resembles.
I've never seen that in thousands of cop shows, but it sure makes sense. They tend to elide most of the processes, and DNA can be matched in seconds. The urban Brits rely on CCTV far more than we do, but they probably can't get much help from the citizenry anymore.

Ralph L said...

If you get caught staring at someone hot, say they look like someone you know. Hopefully, you were looking at xe's face.

reader said...

When I was younger Anne Heche. As I got older Emma Thompson. So in a movie my casting call would be generic blonde.

Earnest Prole said...

I’ve been told I resemble our President — a little more pear-shaped perhaps, and not as good hair, but the pussy is nonetheless amazing!

J. Farmer said...

@Ralph L:

The urban Brits rely on CCTV far more than we do, but they probably can't get much help from the citizenry anymore.

The British police force has become an utter disgrace. They are an almost entirely reactive force, uniformed paper pushers, thoroughly poisoned with PC equality nonsense.

Mr. Majestyk said...

John Denver

JAORE said...

No, no,that's no it. OH! I know, Fatty Arbuckle.

Ralph L said...

poisoned with PC equality nonsense.

The TV shows are, too. Women outrunning and subduing young men, youngish women commanding more senior cops, more PoC and interracial relationships on screen than in an entire rural county, etc. The TV police are shockingly procedure-bound--until they break the rules outrageously. The top brass are invariably stupid, corrupt, or criminal.

The long-time producer of "Midsomer Murders" was sacked for saying the show's actors are white and English because the rural villages are. Now they're ethnically and racially "balanced."

One thing I like about the Canadian "Murdoch Mysteries" is that there's little conflict between the main police characters. The lead's perfect tan is a bit distracting.

svlc said...

In 2004, my then girlfriend told me I looked like Will Ferrell. At the time, I didn't know who that was. It turned out that we are the same height and I had the same curly hair, body style and fat face. She suggested I watch "Old School". I did, and it was so uncomfortable for me since it was like watching myself on the TV. After that, many people would note the similarity, so much so that in 2006 while hiking around Macchu Piccu, it became an ongoing joke for people to call out lines from Wedding Crashers (ma, the meatloaf, fuck!).

Now, I get asked if I am Trevor Linden (former hockey player for the Vancouver Canucks). I assume this is because I have lost lots of weight, and that fat face is gone (sorry Will, I still love you and "Stranger than Fiction" is a phenomenal movie). I still have the curly hair but with a lot more grey.

Michael K said...

The British police force has become an utter disgrace. They are an almost entirely reactive force, uniformed paper pushers, thoroughly poisoned with PC equality nonsense.

Theodore Dalrymple recognized this years ago:

Where administration is light and bureaucracy small, bureaucratic honesty is an incomparable virtue; but where these are heavy and large, as in all modern European states, Britain and Italy not least among them, they burden and obstruct the inventive and energetic. Where bureaucrats are honest, no one can cut through their Laocoönian coils: their procedures, no matter how onerous, antiquated, or bloody-minded, must be endured patiently. Such bureaucrats can

neither be hurried in their deliberations nor made to see common sense. Indeed, the very absurdity or pedantry of these deliberations is for them the guarantee of their own fair-mindedness, impartiality, and disinterest. To treat all people with equal contempt and indifference is the bureaucrat’s idea of equity.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

When I was much younger a woman told me I looked like Kiefer Sutherland. No way that's true anymore. But my wife assures me that I am still good looking.

RI Red said...

When I was young, several people told me I resembled John Lennon. These days, everyone says I look just like my Dad. He's almost 95. I don't like this game.

narciso said...



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/09/irish-jihadi-bride-lisa-smith-evacuated-baghuz-named-ex-soldier/

narciso said...

I elaborated on ralph l's line to bgates, that a long time fellow on our board, daddy, had passed away on Tuesday, he was a federal express pilot, he was a great storyteller, had curiosity about many things, at one point he was a write in senate candidate against Murkowski,

narciso said...

I know you're surprised:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/03/new-yorker-story-used-by-dnc-to-bar-fox-news-from-debates-called-into-doubt/

Rick said...

Some people think I remind them of Frank Thomas.

Will Cate said...

Oh good grief... for virtually my entire life I've been told I resemble Weird Al Yankovic. Many years ago when my hair was long and curly, I'd admit there was more than a passing resemblance. Now that I'm approaching 60 I tend to think, eh, not so much.

Henry said...

I asked my daughter which celebrity I looked like. The one that agrees I'm Uncle Iroh. She said, "There's an app for that."

eddie willers said...

more PoC and interracial relationships on screen than in an entire rural county, etc.

What you say is, of course, 100% true. If the proverbial alien landed, he would report back that different colors attract and that every quartet that watches football and drinks beer must contain one black gentleman.

So I was STUNNED the other night watching History Channel's Project Blue Book, a show that is VERY loosely based on UFO encounters.

One of the most famous encounters of all time is the story of Barney and Betty Hill

I remember being fascinated by an extensive story in LOOK Magazine in the mid-sixties. Not only were they famous for one of the first "abduction" stories, but made big news because they were an interracial couple at a time it was still illegal in a number of states.

So what does Project Blue Book do? They take a famously interracial couple and turn Betty into a black women!

What the hell?

wildswan said...

The women keeping quiet. Me too.

narciso said...

I remember the old project blue book series with the guy who played major flagg on mash, it was very dragnet in stylings, of course this was long before the majestic 12 hoax, that shaped the x files, dark skies and roswell,

Dr Weevil said...

No one's every compared me to a movie star, but there is one I look a lot like. I'd never heard of him, and still have never seen him in a movie or TV show, but when Jeffrey Tambor, whoever he is, was MeToo'd his picture in the news looked like he could be my slightly-worse-looking-and-definitely-grouchier twin brother.

BertBaker said...

Back in the day, when Northern Exposure was on TV (haven’t see that show in ages) I was told by different people over the course of a few seasons that I looked like the dj, the doctor and the cook, none of whom look much alike.

Be said...

Jesus Christ in a Sidecar. I live in HBS Territory, though am not one of their 'scientists' and I can clearly say that "Hey, How was your weekend," or, even, "Why are you here (bub)" works Far Better than "Name a Movie Star you'd like to emulate."


Maybe it's an Indian or Chinese thing?

ALP said...

Stevie Nicks, Kate Bush and Deborah Winger are the celebs others claimed I looked like...back in my younger days of course.

Rockport Conservative said...

I am an identical twin and often get told I look like someone. When I asked if it is her they say Yes, you even sound like her. So I have a built in answer to that often asked question.

RichardJohnson said...

I was never mistaken for someone famous, but in my younger years in my hometown I was twice mistaken for the brother of someone who had his 15 minutes of fame as a rock star. The rock star also grew up in my hometown. The rock star's brother was two years younger than me, about my height and with the same hair color, so I can see how that mistake was made. What made the mistaken identities even funnier is that we both have the same first name. "Hello Richard!" Hello. "Wait- I meant Richard the brother of the rock star." Not me.

One mistaken identity came from someone who had been the housemate of a a co-worker of mine. I hadn't seen him for several years. When I mentioned his old housemate, he realized I wasn't "Richard the brother of the rock star," but Richard who had worked with his old housemate.

LordSomber said...

"That jerk boyfriend from 'The Wedding Singer'" or "some British actor."

Freeman Hunt said...

I don't know about this celebrity business, but I did meet another person who said he sees auras.

I said, "Is mine gray?" He said no and didn't go on and tell me what he thought it was, because asking if yours is gray is not appreciated.

Freeman Hunt said...

And by another person I mean that I've met another such before. That was on an airplane, and the person turned out to be a scientist at a government agency.

tim in vermont said...

Nobody ever told Mike he looks like this guy?

Adam Carolla

MadTownGuy said...

Blogger Birkel said...
"I want to say a cross between Abe Vigoda and King Kong Bundy, Kevin Hart, and Lorne Cardinal."

Corner Gas reference!

tim in vermont said...

Wow, judging by the examples here, the Alhouse commentariat are a bunch of foxes. Doesn't anybody look like Paul Giamatti or John C. Reilly?

It’s the same phenomenon where every golfer on the internet drives the ball accurately a minimum of 275 yards, well, 280 really, let’s be honest. We won’t even get into the issue of the size of everybody’s internet penis.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Nope

Cameron said...

A few years ago people kept saying I looked like Russell Crowe (to the point of stopping and pointing at me on the street). This surprised me, because I imagined Crowe from gladiator, who I do not resemble in any way. Turned out that State of Play had come out recently, and he plays a kinda shaggy guy with a physique less like an Adonis, and more like a potato. Then it all made sense.

Focko Smitherman said...

As a youngster, Boz Scaggs (once); older, Tim Allen (twice); and once about a decade ago, John Hickenlooper. I cherish that. Asked the wife if I looked like anyone now, but she wouldn't take the paper bag (her idea) off my head to check.

Focko Smitherman said...

As a youngster, Boz Scaggs (once); older, Tim Allen (twice); and once about a decade ago, John Hickenlooper. I cherish that. Asked the wife if I looked like anyone now, but she wouldn't take the paper bag (her idea) off my head to check.

Quayle said...

You want the truth?!?!

You can’t handle the truth!!!!