Only about 30% of the Democrats seem to be there.
UPDATE: Manchin voted aye. Murkowski no. Collins and Flake voted yes. Stragglers coming in and voting.
UPDATE 2: 51-49. Ayes have it.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 206 of 206Ken B said...
I suspect some sort of trade with murkowski and Manchin. These things are not uncommon. And it does mean not a party line vote, which is good.
You are absolutely right.
Murkowski, Manchin and Flake are 100% owned and guided entities. They do exactly as they are told.
Their moves were only about proving there is some "independence" among senators and providing cover for Bredesen and other red state dems.
I think Collins came out today and proved that she is her own person. It is weird. She is still a lifetime pol but I think she actually meant what she said in her speech.
Heidtkamp, Donelly and McCaskill are finished and they know it. It will be interesting to see what Nelson, Brown, and Tester. have lined up for retirement.
I can't speak to other states, but if McCaskill wants to dial in a win, she needs to vote yes. Inner city KC and St. Louis are not going to defect because of a yes, and Missouri women are to grounded to buy into CBF et al's stories. My opinion.
”If not jackhammer loud, then other dems, particularly McCaskill, will be given the green light to vote yes as well.”
A Manchin ‘yes’ is believably sincere. A McCaskill ‘yes’ would be transparently conniving.
Besides, McCaskill has already declared ‘no’, hasn’t she?
I had read Collins' speech afterwards- I was at the gym when she started giving it. With the sound down, I could read the closed captions, but chose not to- just glanced at it to see what headline was up. I saw her start, then looked back 15 minutes later, and she was still speaking, and the headline hadn't changed, and I thought to myself that if it was going to take her more than 20 minutes, she had to be voting "No". At that point, I took a few minutes to just follow the captions- she was talking about Kavanaugh's advocacy for judicial restraint, and it all sounded positive for Kavanaugh. She kept going for another 20 minutes. When I read it later, it was actually quite good, but she needs to keep it shorter in the future.
The plane will crash and Daines will die. Then all hell will break loose.
OM, point taken, but I don't follow these things close enough to know unless it's front paged. If McCaskill is a declared no, that could turn to yes overnight depending upon the reaction to Manchin's yes. As to transparent, well that's never hurt Claire before. A yes may not be viewed as a sincere yes, all it has to be is not a no.
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