"... or Ryan Gosling in 'First Man' or Michael Moore’s anti Trump doc 'Fahrenheit 11-9.' The winner of the Audience Award was Peter Farrelly’s 'Green Book,' a kind of 'Driving Miss Daisy' for the new generation. Viggo Mortensen stars as an Italian bouncer in the South, circa the early 60s, who has to drive around a famous musician, played by Oscar winner Mahershala Ali. They use the 'Green Book' which is a guide to restaurants and motels were blacks were allowed... Farrelly is usually not associated with award winning films... His credits include 'Dumb and Dumber,' 'There’s Something About Mary,' and 'Shallow Hal.'"
Writes Roger Friedman at Showbiz 411.
I like the idea of rising to prestige through comedy, so good for Farrelly.
Mahershala Ali won an Oscar for "Moonlight," which I didn't see, because I hardly see anything anymore, but he was in at least one movie I've seen, "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button," which dates back to the days when I saw almost all the movies that got excellent reviews.
Viggo Mortensen, on the other hand. I love him based on "Captain Fantastic."
Here's the trailer:
So it's a racial flip where the white character is low class and the black character is rich and polished. But as with "Driving Miss Daisy," the black character elevates the white character. What's unusual in the broad scheme of Hollywood history is that the rich character elevates the poor character.
Anyway, it looks good, even though I was disappointed to see Viggo Mortensen's sexiness submerged into a brutish character... and yet, that worked like mad for Marlon Brando in "A Streetcar Named Desire." But I like my Viggo in Captain Fantastic form. Here he is talking to Conan O'Brien about my favorite movement in "Captain Fantastic," when he's completely naked and casually sipping coffee in a public campground and — to someone who stares — says "It's just a penis. Every man has one. We're all animals of the earth."
September 17, 2018
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The Guard (2011) uplifts the black guy by having none of PC crap. "I'm Irish. Racism is part of my culture."
But as with "Driving Miss Daisy," the black character elevates the white character.
It's funny because it's true!
Captain Fantastic was, indeed, quirky and good. But not every man has a penis. Some don't. (See, Schumer, Chuck)
It's just a penis. Every man has one.
That was then. Now he'd be crucified for such a transphobic remark.
Most movies suck. They've become so predictable.
Viggo was great in the film Eastern Promises. I think he started his film career very "heart-throbby" - sort of in a Brad Pitt vain - but he's gone on to be a real acting talent in a lot of under-the-radar films.
I didn't see Moonlight (I think it's on Amazon Prime in my watchlist, but just haven't gotten to it) but I loved him in the first season of Luke Cage.
Lastly - comedy directors can pivot to drama relatively easy - way easier than a serious drama director can put together a good comedy. I think it works like that for actors, too, save the great Leslie Neilson.
Great preview.
Viggio is playing Joe Pesci. Looks like he nails it.
Here is a story for context, from Lewis McAdams Birth of the Cool, about the great jazz pianist Thelonius Monk:
"Driving to a gig in Baltimore in 1958, Monk, a hulking, silent, six-foot-two, two-hundred-pound black man, freaked out a desk clerk at a motel in Delaware just asking for a glass of water. Monk retreated to his car when the white cops arrived; when he wouldn't let go of the steering wheel, the smashed his hands with their clubs."
Usually, Conan and other promoters show a clip, but I guess he wasn't.
Master Chief John Urgayle: Pain is your friend, your ally, it will tell you when you are seriously injured, it will keep you awake and angry, and remind you to finish the job and get the hell home. But you know the best thing about pain?
Lt. Jordan O'Neil: Don't know!
Master Chief John Urgayle: It lets you know you're not dead yet
Green Book ...a kind of 'Driving Miss Daisy' for the new generation.
With that title -- and a Hollywood bereft of new ideas -- I thought he'd be driving the black man to his wrongful execution.
"the black character elevates the white character. What's unusual in the broad scheme of Hollywood history is that the rich character elevates the poor character."
Race trumps class, doncha know.
Good God, a remake of A Star Is Born? In these people’s hands, life really is like a particularly sucky version of Groundhog Day.
Too many white people in ASIB. Not enough virtue, which is what all good film is about.
I mean, white people are the protagonists, for chrissakes.
Viggo did two personalities well in A History of Violence. In this new one he does the Joey from Philly character from that one. There is a sex scene in History of Violence with Mortensen's butt showing for the chicks, and the rest of the movie is pure masculinity that the chicks are tricked into watching by the Actor's sexiness.
FTR: Driving Miss Daisy display's Atlanta history reality. Wonder when it will be forever banned.
Male nude scenes are virtuous. Female nude scenes are exploitative.
rhhardin said...
"The Guard (2011) uplifts the black guy by having none of PC crap. "I'm Irish. Racism is part of my culture.""
See? You guys are proud of being racists when you're not in a debate.
"I like the idea of rising to prestige through comedy, so good for Farrelly."
-- I firmly believe comedy is the hardest thing to do well in the realm of storytelling, in almost any medium.
I like the car!
Viggo has to “drive around a famous musician”. That’s funny! If it had been a famous opera singer it would have been too obvious.
I could only stand about 9 seconds of the trailer.
Tired Cliche' Movie plot much?
Interesting. I mentioned the Green Book to Crack in a previous thread when the discussion was about traveling and became being a tourist in your own country America. How extremely difficult and actually dangerous it was for Black people to travel. The roads were just being opened up between places. Eisenhower created the Interstate Highway system. Route 66 and all that freedom to travel and sight see...for some people. The Green Book was a guide to tell you where the "safe" places were. (and that was still chancy)
Think of all the research, dangerous and clandestine trips someone had to make to ferret out this information. Think about who was creating those safe spaces in those times and what the consequences to them might be. Think about how white people in those days never had to think about this kind of stuff. (I remember traveling and witnessing, as a child, the Jim Crow laws we saw in action in the 1950' and 60's)
I wish they had made a movie about that, the process of making the Green Book, instead of a flip flop of Miss Daisy. I get the sense that the film is just one of another long series of lectures.
"The Guard (2011) uplifts the black guy by having none of PC crap. "I'm Irish. Racism is part of my culture.""
See? You guys are proud of being racists when you're not in a debate.
What's a racist? I think the average IQ of US blacks is 86. Is that racist or science? Maybe both, but then what happens to racist as an epithet.
The thing to look for is ill will towards blacks, as The Guard might serve to illustrate.
Mahershalalhashbaz Gilmore is his real name.
Ah, the days of segregation. Liberals love to revisit it.
Hopefully, we'll get plenty of scenes where some Racist Cracker gets told off and/or beaten up by the Heroes.
The Old boomers love that shit.
I thought Mortensen was playing an Italian. You meant Italian-American.
My Fair Viggo
DBQ: "I remember traveling and witnessing, as a child, the Jim Crow laws we saw in action in the 1950' and 60's."
My father told me about his first experience witnessing that when traveling for spring break to Florida from Cornell in 1953 or 1954. It was pre-interstate highway so they were on state routes much of the way. He's literally a lefty but is no political lefty. He was astounded by 1) the poverty and inequality and 2) the fact that he was clueless about the reality of the situation in his own country.
I've taken that lesson and applied it to what I think I know but probably don't.
The idea that a group of white, elitist, snobby people in the deep South would even, ever set up a tour by a famous "person of color" in those days is beyond ludicrous.
When the premise of movie, other than a Sci Fi or Fantasy movie, is so completely wrong and out of historical context, who would want to watch that.
Make a fantasy movie if you want. This isn't it.
Viggo did marry Exene, which has that going from him, but I have never seen him as a good actor.
Dust Bunny Queen said...
The idea that a group of white, elitist, snobby people in the deep South would even, ever set up a tour by a famous "person of color" in those days is beyond ludicrous.
In the 1930s Duke Ellington toured the deep south, mostly playing for white audiences:
The orchestra made its first Southern tour just after its return from England, in 1933, travelling (thanks to Mills) in supremely insulated style: two private Pullman cars for sleeping and dining, and a separate baggage car for the elaborate wardrobe, scenery, and lights required to present a show more dazzling than any that most of the sleepy little towns where they made their stops had ever seen. Ellington made a special effort to perform for black audiences, even when it meant that the band added a midnight show in a place where it had performed earlier that night exclusively for whites.
But true, that was the 1930s.
Later in that article, referencing the 1950s, the author refers to Ellington's "annual" tours through the south playing to segregated audiences.
If Hollywood really wanted to break the mold about race, they should do a movie based on the year KDIA in Memphis became one of the first radio stations to go to an all-black format.
The white owners who bought the station tried all kinds of formats, but when it was clear they were going bankrupt, decided to fill a niche in the marketplace. They had white engineers, but black personalities before the mike.
Their star personality was Nat D. Williams, the local high school teacher, who took on the duties in addition to MCing shows, and running student groups at the high school.
The station ended up broadcasting over a 400-mile radius, and it was estimated at least 10 percent of the black population was listening to it, including some white guy named Presley.
Mostly black cast, and the few whites such as the owners and engineers won't have to make uplifting race unity speeches, because they were only in it for the money.
At the end, the station loses its influence after segregation is ended, because blacks could shop anywhere and find their information elsewhere, so there's even a happy ending.
rhhardin said...
"The thing to look for is ill will towards blacks"
Bless your heart, but "racism" says that's all you got. Or did I miss the part about loving us, embedded in that word?
rcocean said...
"Ah, the days of segregation. Liberals love to revisit it."
Even Dust Bunny Queen has a subject she wishes was covered more and here's another freak suggesting we got it all. Because liberals.
I hate this place.
@ Henry
Very interesting article. Thanks for linking.
Bless your heart, but "racism" says that's all you got. Or did I miss the part about loving us, embedded in that word?
You ought to count helpful advice as showing good will. Show you the way out of the fly bottle.
In particular, good character counts more than IQ, and anybody can show it.
There's a reason I don't get bothered by mass shootings:
I think y'all deserve them.
Your attitudes don't leave much room for much else.
That should read:
Your attitudes are both the source of grievance, and don't leave room for much else.
If good character isn't appealing, take up mathematics.
rhhardin said...
"You ought to count helpful advice as showing good will."
If I could find a white person who actually offered "helpful" advice, I would, but, unfortunately, you don't have much experience with the madness off dealing with you, so thanks but no thanks, Whitey-BigMouth-McHelpful.
Sometimes people are their own crabs pulling themselves back into the pot. Wiki "crab mentality."
rhhardin having a conversation with The Crack Emcee may be the weirdest thing on Althouse today.
Logician offers gnomic advice to unsuccessful agitator.
Cranky Crack!
The Farrell's bros movies are actually politically correct, but mostly what you take note of are the gags, which are in matchless bad taste. Bad taste is not the same as politically incorrect, although perhaps there's some overlap...... I hope he sneaks a few gags into the movie.......Why does the black character have to be a classical musician? Why can't he be a jazz pianist? He could be blind. Blind man gags are always funny.
Oh my!! My longstanding joke about Viggo Mortensen is that I spontaneously ovulate when I see a picture of him. :D
From that perspective, the title of that video is quite amusing!
You can make fun of blind people but not their seeing eye dogs. You can make fun of black people only if you're a black comedian.
There's a reason I don't get bothered by mass shootings:
I think y'all deserve them.
"Y'all" being blacks.
"The New York Times identified and analyzed these 358 [mass shootings last year] with four or more casualties, ...
Over all, though, nearly three-fourths of victims and suspected assailants whose race could be identified were black."
"nearly three-fourths of victims and suspected assailants whose race could be identified were black."
Finally, some GOOD news!
Another rhhardin vindication thread.
Viggo needs some eyebrows.
It's a 1962 Cadillac.
Viggo in pretty much every scene he had in of Lord of the Rings....yum!
It's just about where we encourage people to focus their attention. Well, that, and protection from the elements. Aren't we overdue for a Slut Walk?
Henry said...
"Logician offers gnomic advice to unsuccessful agitator."
Unasked for "advice" translates as rhhardin being rude, no matter how he dresses it (Look it up in Miss Manners) but - in Whitey's World - they don't let their own rudeness stop them. (Nor the reminder King showed good character, and still ended up with a bullet in his face, fucking with you "proud Americans". ) Not when there's imbecilic sycophants to impress.
Am I an "unsuccessful agitator" - I could've sworn I've said, over and over, that I'm an artist and nothing more, no? So how can I be "unsuccessful" at something I'm not engaged in? Isn't this another example of how white folks construct a mental box they demand blacks have to get out of? Did you want a SUCCESSFUL AGITATOR? Obviously, you want one of some kind of "agitator", because someone here (Laslo, maybe) DID point out that I take positions - like on reparations - but it's y'all who make take that position personal and go on the attack. As I always say, you're horrible people, patting each other on the back for acting like gangsters. I'm glad I now know there are people, here, who don't talk much but still "see", or else I, too, would think you get away with it.
I say you deserve mass shootings - saying nothing about race - and Fernandistein makes sure to point out there's more black deaths - just as any white racist would. That's how you racists expose yourselves. Haven't I said, here, a billion times that I've lived through mass shootings at my Jr. High School? So, since I know blacks engage in mass shootings, why do you insist on patronizing me with information only an idiot would think to say?
I think it's because you're idiots who don't really know any black people.
You just talk about us.
'It’s Just Draining': 14-Year Employee of University Gets Cops Called on Him for Looking 'Agitated'
They see what they want to see.
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