"Ms. Swetnick said she was raped at one of the parties, and she believed she had been drugged. None of Ms. Swetnick’s claims could be independently corroborated by The New York Times, and her lawyer, Michael Avenatti, declined to make her available for an interview.... Unlike two other women who have accused Judge Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct, one who went to college with him and another who went to a sister high school, Ms. Swetnick offered no explanation in her statement of how she came to attend the same parties, nor did she identify other people who could verify her account.... In her statement, Ms. Swetnick said that she met Judge Kavanaugh and Mr. Judge in 1980 or 1981 when she was introduced to them at a house party in the Washington are... She said she attended at least 10 house parties in the Washington area from 1981 to 1983 where the two were present. She said the parties were common, taking place almost every weekend during the school year. She said she observed Judge Kavanaugh drinking 'excessively' at many of the parties and engaging in 'abusive and physically aggressive behavior toward girls, including pressing girls against him without their consent, "grinding" against girls, and attempting to remove or shift girls’ clothing to expose private body parts. I also witnessed Brett Kavanaugh behave as a "mean drunk" on many occasions at these parties.'"
The NYT reports today.
If the allegations are true, there must be many, many other witnesses. Where have they been all these weeks? And why would she go to "at least 10 house parties" if they were as she described?
The NYT suggests there's a gap in the account because Swetnick doesn't say how she got to go to the same parties as Kavanaugh. We're told Swetnick grew up in Montgomery County, Md., and graduated from Gaithersburg High School — a public school — in 1980 and attended the University of Maryland. That puts her in a less elite crowd. She's also 2 years older than Kavanaugh and graduated from high school 3 years before he did, so it makes it a little hard to picture them at the same parties. Did older, state-college women go to parties with prep school boys years younger than them? If they did and the boys raped them, repeatedly and systematically, how could the boys get away with it, and why are there not many more women coming forward with the same allegations? And why are we getting this through Michael Avenatti?
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 409 Newer› Newest»LilyBart said...
"I care a lot about what right to do - you're the one twisting it."
Am not - I've been watching this for years and the conclusion has been clear for years - including the Democrats becoming desperate at some point, because you left them no choice.
"You confusing using procedure to get what you want with ruining a man's life."
I don't care how you're fucked - you're still fucked. You're just mad for getting fucked back. Well fuck you. Stop fucking people and play fair - oh wait:
REPUBLICAN WHITE GUYS DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY FAIR. THEY THINK THIS IS A GAME WHERE YOU FUCK YOUR COUNTRYMEN LIE THEY'RE "ENEMIES" - As so many whites, here, remind me - that's how whites "think".
"You're the one that hasn't got a clue."
Oh, I had a clue as soon as I saw Mitch McConnell smiling about it years ago. I knew what was coming. TOTAL WAR.
"What a bitter, crazy dude you are."
Only guy here who stops rapes, talks about stopping rapes, and wants to stop rapes. Y'all want a white guy to succeed and nothing more.
I'd rather be a "bitter, crazy dude" than an ignorant monster to everybody but whites.
Kanaugh is not man enough to show his face tomorrow.
My favorite Crack/Dunning-Kruger example was his annointing himself a scientist!
LOL
I am half surprised that Crack hasnt Knighted himself already.
He might have been the first recipient of "The Garter of The Well and Truly Dunning-Krugered" with Oak Leaf Cluster.
Release the "Sir Crack-en"!
When it's desperation time, you scrape the bottom of the barrel.
The media are using the word "corroborated" incorrectly.
A real defense attorney would shred the women.
Sir Crack-en: "REPUBLICAN WHITE GUYS DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY FAIR."
Shaddup already or you wont get your lollipop back....ever!
Sir Crack of Angeles??
Drago said...
"My favorite Crack/Dunning-Kruger example was his annointing himself a scientist!"
Edzard Ernst MD, PhD, FMedSci, FRSB, FRCP, FRCPEd.
Alternative medicine, is it a cult?
"There are many other parallels between a cult and alternative medicine, I am sure. In my view, the most striking one must be the fact that any spark of cognitive dissonance in the cult-victim is being extinguished by highly effective and incessant flow of misinformation which often amounts to a form of brain-washing."
I'M NOT A SCIENTIST - BUT I'M SMARTER THAN YOU.
The cult of the antivaccine by David Gorsky, cancer surgeon
"Having received that “truth” and joined a community of “truth,” these antivaccine parents become antivaccine evangelists, set to go out and preach the gospel of autism biomedical cures for autism and antivaccine pseudoscience as their preferred means of “preventing” autism, the cost to public health be damned."
ANYTIME YOU WANT TO ADMIT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT - AND I DO - PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
Sir Crack-en: "I'M NOT A SCIENTIST - BUT I'M SMARTER THAN YOU."
Dunning-Kruger indeed.
Tis a pity.
I think her account establishes one point conclusively: some women lie about rape.
This is war, there is no fair.
And there is no point in argument.
Propaganda is a weapon, just like a bomb or machinegun.
You don't argue with enemy bombs, you just set off your own bombs on your enemies.
A conflict like this is a process of escalating pain and suffering, until one side has had enough of that to risk the will of their enemies. And of course vae victis.
Sir Crack-en: "ANYTIME YOU WANT TO ADMIT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT - AND I DO - PLEASE LET ME KNOW."
Uh, ok. Go ahead and admit you dont know what ypu're talking about....
(Do you think Sir Crack-en will catch on to what he did there?....)
LOL
"Magical thinking is who we are, I guess. If it were only that it serves to enrich some at the expense of others, maybe even make some people feel better, what the hell. If they're only hurting themselves, or the willingly deceived, should I let it go? But they are hurting people, and it's pretty clear that eventually it will hurt me."
- By Dr. Sid Schwab, A DAMNED FOOL FOR NOT LISTENING TO DRAGO
buwaya: "This is war, there is no fair.
And there is no point in argument.
Propaganda is a weapon, just like a bomb or machinegun.
You don't argue with enemy bombs, you just set off your own bombs on your enemies."
This cannot be stated often enough. And one needn't be Sun Tzu, Clausewitz or Macchiavelli to understand it.
Though truly, it remains far beyond Sir Crack-en.
Uh oh. Sir Crack-en has caught a bad case of the "Cut and Paste Inga In Lieu Of Argument".
Hmmmmmmmm, looks fatal..
The one banned commenter here is ordering Crack to stay on topic. Lol
The Macho Response: Dr. Graham Sharpe Throws Down The Gauntlet ("Fascism It Is")
"Many popular SCAMs have been started by an individual who has had some blinding thought or revelation. A Eureka moment.
Hahnemann and homoeopathy, Palmer and chiropractic, Peczely and iridology, Fitzgerald and reflexology, Bach and flower remedies. Or a more recent example Andrew Weil and stoned thinking.
Some essential truth has been revealed to an individual. Not by a rational process of inquiry and investigation, but by some sort of quasi religious or spiritual experience.
This results in what can reasonably be referred to as a cult, rather than a scientifically proven method of medicine."
WOWEE ZOWEE!!!
"Why would we take strategic advice from history's losers?"
Should one not study Rommel?
Philosophy of Bart O'K: you rape what you can't sow
Sir Crack-en will now increase the volume of his incoherent pastings in the hope that it helps to hide their...incoherence...
LOL
Filed under: That's a darn shame.
Yes you should - and Guderian, and Robert E. Lee as well.
We are at peak Red Guard Cultural Revolution here. I comfort myself knowing even that passed.
>>Hahnemann and homoeopathy, Palmer and chiropractic, Peczely and iridology, Fitzgerald and reflexology, Bach and flower remedies.
Add "Crack and slavery"
Go easy on Mary, Drago. She one of those macho girl who owns a mean dog. She thinks she thinks like a man, but remains a silly earnest little girl. Fuck-up analysis is the key to not buying farms
Every boy likes to think he is noble, but what if it was just a brother taking time during the party to shag his girl in a public/private setting like a community shower? You're not a bastard. You're just ignorant based on your overwhelming innocence.
Mary,
If I get your point, it is that some men do bad things, sometimes without a woman's consent, and it sometimes takes people years of life experience to understand that it was bad.
Therefore ... ?
In fact,one should also study Shaka Zulu.
Interesting anecdote about old Shaka.
He, like Crack, fancied himself a bit if a scientist (cuz, why not, right?)
And he wanted to understand pregnancy. So this rocket scientist lined up a bunch of pregnant women at various stages of pregnancy.....(wait for it...waot for it..)...he then proceeded to slice them all open to view the babies.
All the moms and babies died of course.
Do you know why he did that?
Racist White Americans. I mean, obviously.
Latest odds on Smarkets-- 67.57% likelihood of confirmation.
4th allegation
"he shoved me up against a wall sexually"
Disprove that!
On topic sort of:- I visited The sports medicine dept on the CU campus today to get a copy of my MRI (bad knee). Walking up the hill thru the parking lot are students. One of the students was a young beautiful 20 something girl wearing VERY provocative clothing. Her butt cheeks were exposed out of the back of her very high + short shorts. She was also wearing some sort of long black slinky skin-tight boot sock that ran up her legs just above the knee. 100% not safe for work. But I guess A-OK if you want to put yourself out there as sexually available to any red blooded straight guy on campus.
I took photos.
Sex on campus is a thing? Girls want sex? who knew?
"Study, just don't ape his tactics and expect to win."
Hey, stop monkeying around with your metaphors! There are Dunning-Kruger victims afoot....
Not that it matters any, because I am from the Boston, MA area, and certifiably batshit crazy, but: all these accusations reek of "Fells Acres."
Back in the late 90s, early 00s, hypnotic regression was a therapy fashion. Quit the one shrink who tried to try it on me.
Unfortunately, am having a hard time convincing others who honestly need help, and who think that therapists currently "plant memories," get help.
Pete Hammill, interviewed on Imus long ago, spoke of the need for newspaper stories to be corrobated [sic].
Kanaugh is not man enough to show his face tomorrow.
Spiros makes a prediction! We will see if he does as well as Mick did.
Blogger Spiros Pappas said...
Kanaugh is not man enough to show his face tomorrow.
Whereas trolls show their faces and their asses at the drop of a hat, or a handkerchief.
Sir Crack-en: "You're liars who can't admit it."
LOL
So much stupidity in so few words which nonetheless set up so many jokes!!!
Dunning-Kruger fella takes it to 11!
"You're the last of the buwaya aristocracy"
Not quite, our lot were all peasants, going back a couple of generations. Peasants, fishermen, sailors, conscript soldiers.
I am however rather more than half-Basque (and most of the rest Spanish mutt), and there is an ancient Spanish medieval tradition that grants all Basques, however poor, however humble their occupations, regardless of not being first-born, the status of hidalguia, that is, qualified for any post or freedom due to the class of the gentry, along with exemption from taxation, forced labor and conscription, as befitted gentlemen.
Granted, that is a truly ancient thing that became moot in the 19th century.
But there are quite a lot of Basques still about, in Spain and France, and a rather vast number of descendants in all the ex-colonies. So not the last, even of that.
I have a sincere belief you guys represent a strain of Republicanism that's going to blow this thing for Kavanaugh. You're too stupid not to.
If he gets taken down, be ready for me to heckle, because you'll deserve it.
Just horrible people.
This nonplussed Ann par excellence.
Ann wonders why the flack lawyer is some fellow named Avenatti. Ann, this obscure character represents a porn star who had a sex thing with the president that forced him to pay her hush money, a transaction that drew the attention of federal police and has resulted in multiple criminal guilty pleas by a guy who said he was Trump's lawyer and who's now cooperating with Mueller. All this may well be new to you and some of your readers. I would have thought though you might have understood why a sex crime victim would hire this particular lawyer.
Did older college age girls go to beach parties with rich younger kids -- at their cool cottages, in the summer, and wear skimpy clothjing, and do their make-up, and drink too much? Yes, Ann, that happens, and it may happen more often with, as you say, second tier girls, for a couple reasons : the really cool girls their own age think these frat boys and their antics are disgusting, and avoid them. And :it's precisely the older less status girl who sees her way into an upper tier by hanging with a rich preppie like Brat and his rich but stupid and drunk pals like Judge and so on.
And definitely, girls like that would sleep with someone if she wanted to. But here's the thing-- she didn't want to. None of those girls went there, slutty as they may have looked, and expected or could be said to agree in advance to a gang bang at the end of the evening. Ann, a gentleman does not take advantage of an intoxicated female, nor does he allow his friends or associates to do so, and could certainly resort to violence if he witnessed such an act done by a stranger. Even small boys are capable of understanding that, and the teenage preppie set that brett was in, and has not repudiated -- look at his flushed cheeks -- clearly breached limits that even drunken girls are entitled to. Otherwise you're running with the wrong crowd.
Why aren't there lots of witnesses? Now you're pulling my leg. Ever hear of the idea that lots of people have shameful secrets that they never tell anyone, not their parents, not the police. You can read up on that subject, of central importance to any inquiry of this sort.
Anyway, these questions you ask expose the weakness of your stance of cruel neutrality. A neutral observer at her best has a sure grasp of what's afoot, and you're confused. Cruelty, hmm. Rules of the tribe
yes, the fmr president of the coca cola company, goizeuta, who is an alumnus of my alma mater, was of basque background,
"Should one not study Rommel?"
Tactical-Operational advice.
Strategically (other than in 1940) the poor guy was given impossible jobs.
I heard some of the reported sexual assaults were in a pizza parlor or possibly even in a preschool.
Buwaya: "Not quite, our lot were all peasants, going back a couple of generations. Peasants, fishermen, sailors, conscript soldiers."
And you have demonstrated, on this very blog, a sufficient mastery of history, psycology, strategy, business acumen and a tangilbly solid morality such that were I the master of a great house I should be quite pleased to entrust the protection of my loved ones and fortune un your hands.
As with Joseph of the Bible.
In summary, you strike me as quite a good egg.
You're a Yale man narcisco?
no the high school, I once thought the ivy league was something impressive, but seeing the likes of dana milbank and josh marshall, I demur,
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sexual-assault-experts-it-makes-‘no-sense’-for-a-prosecutor-to-question-christine-blasey-ford/ar-AAAGlbY?ocid=spartandhp
they want to dispose of any expertise,
I echo Drago's sentiments-6:25.
I caught on early, just imagined what knowledge I could incur over a private, relaxed setting, as opposed to typing short summaries on a blog.
Disagree. McMartin and the other day care cases involved small children and manipulative therapists.
And the sexual assault hysteria involves immature girls and manipulative political activists.
Fernandistein said...
"Further allegations of an increasingly salacious nature followed."
Each allegation more credible than the next...
Crack MC, I'm really glad to see you back again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire_Academy
Cheshire Academy?
Small and quite fancy these days.
You're right, most real teaching happens in high schools.
I went to school with some of the children of the figures that traditional guy, reference, re deep state, on the latin side, of the equation, I didn't know it at the time,
https://babalublog.com/2018/09/26/google-throws-a-get-together-in-new-york-for-the-puppet-president-of-cubas-apartheid-dictatorship/
yes, they are evil, next question,
Drago said...
Buwaya: "...In summary, you strike me as quite a good egg."
Balut!
Michael K I'm not a troll. I voted Trump and I am, more or less, a Republican. But Kavanaugh turns my stomach. Because I am naive, I believe our Senators (mostly the women unfortunately) will do the right thing and that they will follow justice. With four accusers and many more to come, we have the sure knowledge that Kavanaugh is a rapist, an evil man, and that must carry consequences.
Now allegation number 4. Anonymous letter saying he got drunk and felt up a woman. Letter written is mom of the woman felt up.
Supposedly this occurred in 1998. Supposedly other people present.
Yes, Ann, that happens, and it may happen more often with, as you say, second tier girls, for a couple reasons : the really cool girls their own age think these frat boys and their antics are disgusting, and avoid them. And :it's precisely the older less status girl who sees her way into an upper tier by hanging with a rich preppie like Brat and his rich but stupid and drunk pals like Judge and so on.
It's enlightening reading various lefties outline their bigotry as if their own hatreds control and describe entire classes of people. Like Crack they want to embrace the KKK worldview but just target it differently.
It's a sickness.
Unknown said...
Hopefully after Kavanaugh is confirmed, he will use his new found disgust of the democrat party and women in general to hammer the heck out of roe v wade and rule against all feminists and democrats whenever possible. I mean they’ve earned it.
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Myself, I would hope Kavanaugh would remain an impartial judge focusing on the legal merits of each case he's presented with.
As Ann Coulter points out, the hysteria over "overturning Roe" is....hysteria. Returning to the states the power to legalize/criminalize abortion as they see fit would produce restrictions and maybe a few outright bans, but mostly a whole bunch of conditions for *legal* abortion, as well as requirements for spousal/parental notifications and the like.
IOW it wouldn't be at all like "he Handmaiden's Tale".
But in the crazy times we live in, it appears a sizable number of wymyn actually think that's how they would wind up living.
"Miracle Whip? Now, that's fucked up, man. I don't care who you are."
Yeah, use mayonnaise like a real man!
Spiros Pappas said...
Michael K I'm not a troll. I voted Trump and I am, more or less, a Republican. But Kavanaugh turns my stomach. Because I am naive, I believe our Senators (mostly the women unfortunately) will do the right thing and that they will follow justice. With four accusers and many more to come, we have the sure knowledge that Kavanaugh is a rapist, an evil man, and that must carry consequences.
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Sorry---that's troll talk, straight up----ESPECIALLY the "sure knowledge" part.
"Balut!"
Hah!
Whether those are good or bad eggs - that is something of a test of character.
You will know a man only if you present him with a balut.
Then observe.
Michael K I'm not a troll. I voted Trump and I am, more or less, a Republican. But Kavanaugh turns my stomach. Because I am naive, I believe our Senators (mostly the women unfortunately) will do the right thing and that they will follow justice. With four accusers and many more to come, we have the sure knowledge that Kavanaugh is a rapist, an evil man, and that must carry consequences.
Folks,
At some point you have to call bullshit on these trolls and then ignore them.
Chuckles Is far more credible than this joke. I agreed with him twice yesterday.
Swetnick previously was a webmaster at homeland security!! and the state department, can we say at least shallow stater, she worked at treasury on a deloitte contract,
Again - the timing of these allegations is so incredibly suspect.
I know leftists who admitted to me they would kill someone to keep abortion legal.
That's what we are seeing.
During the day shift is much more informative. When the trolls show up, its 3rd grade recess all over again.
AND SO'S YO MAMA!!
Spiro: "Michael K I'm not a troll. I voted Trump and I am, more or less, a Republican."
LOL
You forgot the "lifelong" part.
My my how the seminar caller training has slipped..
she worked at state in the early bush year, at main justice, in the latter period, it's the school where the most infamous alumni, '45, took over the country, he's deceased, but the brother still keeps it in the family,
in other news, one site has identified one of the Salisbury tourists as a gru (spetnaz) lt colonel, by the name of beshpiga, decorated for service in Chechnya and in the Ukraine,
"I took photos."
You're my kinda woman, April.
Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...
Again - the timing of these allegations is so incredibly suspect.
They are beyond suspect. They are disqualifying, by any reasonable measure.
"The house parties were terrible! Gang rapes constantly! I only went to ten."
Thanks, Freeman.
Blogger Drago said...
Spiro: "Michael K I'm not a troll. I voted Trump and I am, more or less, a Republican."
I needed that laugh after the day's porn lawyer news.
Calling Michael Avenatti a "lowlife" is an insult to this country's lowlifes.
You do not have to believe that. But do you really believe that a group of young men of Kavanaugh's social class were so confident of each others' rank, utter sickness and depravity that they were comfortable standing in line to rape a woman?
This is Salem witch trial/McMartin Pre-school level stuff. Shame on the Republicans for accommodating. Democrats of course have no shame.
As Ann Coulter points out, the hysteria over "overturning Roe" is....hysteria. Returning to the states the power to legalize/criminalize abortion as they see fit would produce restrictions and maybe a few outright bans, but mostly a whole bunch of conditions for *legal* abortion, as well as requirements for spousal/parental notifications and the like.
We have to get back to this or there will be war.
@Spiros, lots of people voted for Trump who aren’t really Republicans. Your calling Kavanaugh a rapist when not even Swetnick claims that Kavanaugh participated in rapes, tells me that you are too stupid to be a Republican.
The pendulum will swing back, right? We're going to regain our senses at some point.
This is just a crazy period, it'll end soon. Somebody convince me of this.
Was it Nietzsche who said that insanity is rare in individuals but in groups and periods it's the norm?
Ann asks:
If they did and the boys raped them, repeatedly and systematically, how could the boys get away with it, and why are there not many more women coming forward with the same allegations?
In my world, us guys didn't date the local girls, we sniffed around girls in the neighboring towns. So, out of town guys were sniffing around "our girls". So the macho bullshit went back and forth , threats traded, insults hurled, posturing and chest puffing, but one out of towner roughed up one of our locals, and several of us hunted him down and explained manners to him. Yes teenage males can be insufferable pricks, but we did have some honor.
Spiros Pappas said...
"With four accusers and many more to come, we have the sure knowledge that Kavanaugh is a rapist, an evil man, and that must carry consequences."
No one has accused Kavanaugh of raping anyone, "Spiros". What's that in your mouth?
Nope - this is the new normal, until we hit a higher level if insanity in a day or two. As Michael K. said, we get back to some sort of reality the majority can work with or it will be a new, shooting civil war. And I don't think the folks who believe in gun control (that is confiscation) are going to be very happy with how this one turns out.
Lord, 268 comments. I'm SO late to this. Oh well.
"When we look back at this, I think we are going to see that Kavanaugh's principal vulnerability was..."
I've read a lot of this sort of thing over the last 2? weeks, and it's a fool's errand to try to pin this down other than K's principal vulnerability was that he had an "R" by his name, and that the Dems and MSM would close ranks. That's all. Full stop. Any last minute allegation, ANY, and these are some doozers, would be met with we must delay so the accuser may be heard. And now this one. And now that one. Althouse may express that she is uncomfortable with him being too perfect (Put down the copy of Elmer Gantry, eject the DVD. Their fiction!), but all of these allegations are absurd on their face. And more so in context.
For all the claims that this nomination is different because lifetime appointment, very powerful, etc., that's just cover that I can not remember being offered before for why 30+ year old newly discovered claims should be honored. Trust me, if the situation calls for a new improved rationale next time, it will be found.
Saying Trump should nominate someone squeaky clean next time is naĂŻve, if not in fact sad. K was as squeaky clean as they come, right up to the moment the Dems failed to lay a glove on him during hearings and released the lies from over 30 years ago.
None of your reasonable questions matter because the only thing that matters are the headlines. The media is a propaganda machine and the headlines are the vehicles for manipulating public opinion.
cucks always talk of shooting wars
Spiros,
Once again, I beg you. Read and learn from Howard. He is four times the troll you are now.
Darrell and Freeman Hunt win Page 1 (comments 1-200)
Sorta of a Cubs Brewers thing. They might have to have a one Quip playoff in comments 401-600.
I like the idea of a decades old cannibalism accusation. I presume that would be tough to defend. Digestion and all
Steven Galbraith
Maybe not. Did early 20th century Japan come to its senses on its own? Has Venezuela? Seen what’s been happening in South Africa recently, or Iran these past 40 years? Society is more fragile than people realize. There isn’t always an autocorrection.
CWJ said...
"I've read a lot of this sort of thing over the last 2? weeks, and it's a fool's errand to try to pin this down other than K's principal vulnerability was that he had an "R" by his name"
Well, and a dick between his legs. We will soon see whether it has become impossible for Republicans to confirm a male. If so, then I guess we'll get to see how the Democrats act when they get their hands on a woman. I'm guessing Democrats will feel pretty comfortable taking turns abusing a Republican woman.
"The pendulum will swing back, right? We're going to regain our senses at some point."
Its not going to, because its not insanity.
You have tribe A and tribe B (and C, D, E ...)
Tribe A does not feel they owe anything to tribe B, and behaves accordingly.
Soon enough tribe B understands the situation and reciprocates. Tribe A then escalates. Perfectly logical.
Between one thing and another the process of conflict will change a lot of things.
What comes out of this ultimately is unpredictable, other than that it will be very different from the original state.
I went to many Frat party’s when I was in college and never saw a rape nor was I raped. I really liked the guys in the fraternity and I went often just to hang out. Guess what though. I was with so called friends and got knock out drunk, not proud of it and I take full responsibility, when I came to my pants were off and one of the group was groping. My roommates were there and laughing. Thankfully I scrambled and got my pants back on. The same guy later gave me a note that said “hurts so good”, in reference to the John Mellancamp song popular at the time.. One of my roommates is a big liberal b@t h, probably outraged over Kavanaugh. I don’t want to hear that any of these accusers don’t remember who where or what. I could lead you to the dorm room where this happened right now. It was in the same time frame as these accusations and I was drunk off my ass.
Anyway, I tell my girls all the time don’t get black out drunk and bad stuff won’t happen to you. Also, don’t expect friends to take care of you when you’re drunk. They’re drunk too so why expect it? Also, don’t trust liberal b$ches. Words to live by.
Jupiter,
Yep. R's pretending to inoculate themselves "next time" never works. It's looking for the easy out rather than to fight as hard and united as the D's.
Every time Avenatti speaks, we need to take a national shower. He is the nation's slimeball. Swetnik's accusation is preposterous on its face. We are taking an accusation that a high schooler (starting at 14 years old) had an organized ring of drugging and gang raping women about every weekend over a three year period 35+ years ago? And no one reported or heard a thing? And then it magically stopped? And United States Senators are taking this seriously?
I fear the future of our nation. As Edmund Burke said, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Sometimes, good people hide behind "cruel neutrality" to enable evil to triumph.
Jesus Christ on a crutch cancel the hearings and hold a vote.
Martin Niemöller also taught us:
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
We would be well advised to remember that caution.
From Powerline:
"Sen. Jeff Merkley, D-Ore., says he will seek a federal court injunction to, as Politico described it, “stop a final vote on Brett Kavanaugh, asserting an obstruction of his constitutional duty to advise and consent on nominees.”
In a way, I hope he succeeds as far as getting a judge to issue the injunction. If we're gonna party we might as well party hard.
Hey wait!
I know of a few socialists, trade unionists, and Jews you missed!
--Michael Avenatti
Jupiter,
See even saying "and a dick between his legs" misses the point. That's irrelevant. It's an excuse. It's all the "R." As the last part of your comment acknowledges, they'd be just as happy to savage a woman as long as she was the "wrong" kind of woman.
Gaithersburg is 15 miles from Bethesda. And back in the early 80s, Gaithersburg was the sticks. It seems implausible that public school kids from Gaithersburg would be running in the same social circles as private school rich kids from Bethesda. That alone makes me skeptical.
Did older, state-college women go to parties with prep school boys years younger than them?
No, as in absolutely not. It is, however, a prep boy fantasy.
If they did and the boys raped them, repeatedly and systematically, how could the boys get away with it,
They couldn't.
and why are there not many more women coming forward with the same allegations?
Because they're not only absolutely false but completely absurd.
And why are we getting this through Michael Avenatti?
Because he's now revealed himself to the public as a complete idiot. WE only have to wonder why he decided to reveal it in this manner.
"cucks always talk of shooting wars"
There have been a lot of shooting wars though.
Sometimes shortly after certified geniuses said we all were done with that.
The Great Illusion, 1910
Which proved with perfectly logical and reasonable arguments that a great European war was impossible. Or should have been impossible.
Oddly enough, Norman Angell actually won a Nobel Peace prize in 1933, for a new edition -
" He added his belief that if France, Britain, Poland, Czechoslovakia, and other countries had bound themselves together to oppose all military aggression, including that of Hitler's, and appealed to world justice for a solution to the countries' grievances, then the great mass of reasonable Germans would have stepped up and stopped Hitler from leading their country into an unwinnable war..."
Since I live in Montgomery County (off and on since 1972), Swetnick's story immediately rang false to me. Gaithersburg is in the northern part of the county, many miles away from Georgetown Prep. Even in the 80's it was a thoroughly mediocre school, with a low-to-middle class student demographic. There is no way that students from GP would be hanging with those from Gaithersburg. The public schools in/near Prep in Bethesda, such as BCC and Whitman, have a demographic which is almost identical to Prep's, and thus would be much more likely to be social acquaintances. But Gaithersburg? No. Did not happen.
From Wikipedia:
Occam's razor (or Ockham's razor) is a principle from philosophy. Suppose there exist two explanations for an occurrence. In this case the simpler one is usually better. Another way of saying it is that the more assumptions you have to make, the more unlikely an explanation. Occam's razor applies especially in the philosophy of science, but also more generally.
So..pick your side. Words v. Words. Who lived the last decades in a way which is consistent with the philosophy?
I am from this guy’s cohort but from the Deep South. There have been episodes a la metoo from my school that i have recently been asked to testify about. Let me say that it had not really occurred to me to bring it to light on my own, but when requested, I did testify. AA is acting like this is one of her perhaps pined-for neutral events where there are disinterested bystanders standing around preferably taking notes, not really knowing either the alleged perp or alleged victim, much less being intricately tied to them economically, socially and emotionally.
Otherwise, it never ceases to amuse how commenters just KNOW that kids in Gaithersburg didn’t have cars, just KNOW that the latest accusing woman is inferior, socially speaking. Everyone just KNOWS so damn much.
Democrats are indeed desperate, but it's not because they have their backs against the wall, but because total victory is slipping from their grasp.
After all, they are the ones who invented micro-aggressions, because there weren't enough real problems to go around. They're the ones who claim asking people where they are from is hurtful. The next step would have involved banning all their opponents from asking any personal questions.
So I'll take their claims of harm suffered with a fistful of salt.
It'll be at least a small victory if they manage to exact some concession toward their made-up rules through this investigation.
Senate Republicans are obviously very eager to accommodate any rule changes that Democrats demand. If the accuser wants to testify wearing a burqa, a burqa we shall get. If she wants to give a singing testimony, but Carnegie Hall is busy, then they'll requisition Lincoln Hall.
But the past two years have shown that not everyone is on board with the program and Democrats' feelings are hurt.
Isn't it enough that Republicans are so busy raping the country? Why do they need to put a potential rapist in the highest court in the land? Can't we have some standards? Someone who didn't grow up with the kind of privilege and repression that made him think drugged gang rapes were how to get what you want?
We need someone compassionate enough to understand how the law impacts the least privileged. Not the most. Kavanaugh is just a shill for the same easy monied interests that are driving this country apart. We don't need that. No more plunderers or rapists or privileged snot-noses in our governments or on our courts.
Deep-six the nomination. Put up a decent, compassionate, understanding human being for the position, for once. Someone who understands that the laws are meant to serve the people, and not just the other way around.
I am beginning to suspect that Buwaya is correct- this is not insanity, it is cold-blooded, ruthless pragmatism on the part of the Democrats. I would hope that people like Jeff Flake, Susan Collins, Bob Corker, Ben Sasse, and Lisa Murkowski understand the stakes here well enough to go ahead and confirm Kavanaugh, but I don't know for certain. Flake did make a statement in the Senate this morning that winning at all costs is extremely dangerous, and I can't imagine any scenario where he would be speaking to his Republican colleagues in this case- it had to be directed to the Democrats, so I am hopeful that the Republicans gird themselves and do the the right thing here.
I will say this- I am disappointed that not a single Democrat in the Senate has had the courage to stand up and call this for what it is- unmitigated insanity and character assassination, all done with literally zero corroboration.
And a last warning about the Republicans- if they fail to stand united on this one narrow issue, they will all hang politically. If the Democrats tactics are allowed to succeed here, it will be used over and over, and you will see it repeated with the next nominee if Kavanaugh is defeated, and it will definitely get used in all of the important races this November.
Seriously, how deranged do you have to be to go to court to attempt to get an injunction to stop the Senate from holding a vote? The Constitution explicitly says the Senate makes its own rules for how it operates. And yet, this probably isn't madness, because I think it a better than even chance that a judge will be found to issue the injunction, and I think it probable that the 9th Circuit and the D.C. circuit would uphold it- the madness is spreading, or the entire operation is cunning genius.
HT,
All I know is that none of this existed more than a week ago, and that sworn denials that any of it took place from the accusers "witnesses" are ignored because reasons. I also note that those believing the accusers shift from one to the next as the previous accusers' stories break down. So don't worry someone will come along shortly for the next story in which you'll believe. Oh, look! I think we've all moved on to a more recent accusation which is notably short of names which may be deposed.
Gang Bangs don't happen at frat parties where girl friends, women's auxiliary , other invited sorority girls attend and in some case members' sisters. The wildest frat parties are like Animal House, no real debauchery and yes dirt bike competition from the front porch up the main staircase. That's how I learn how to patch drywall.
There were gang bangs in the house organised by a 26 year old legacy member Viet Nam Vet. In all 4 trains the 2 women were sober and wanted to participate, I asked them before leaving the house. One women was a 30 year old VA Hospital nurse and the other was a 20 year old daughter of a townie Baptist minister. Never saw the nurse again, but met the townie at a wedding reception years later with her husband and three kids.
I also witnessed some black high school kids what I thought was a rape of a black teenage girl between my apartment complex buildings. I call 911. Turned out she was pulling a train. Cop told me they were all minors and no arrest, it happens all the time.
Yes some women are as depraved as some men.
. K was as squeaky clean as they come, right up to the moment the Dems failed to lay a glove on him during hearings
Yes, he was Bush's nominee and Romney's. Not at all Trump's.
Howard thinks the rules he lives by will always apply. Good luck pussy man.
How many people's hearts have you held in your hand, Howard?
Mike: why are you so pathetically insecure?
Man, for a Lawyer nerd who kept calendar's recording his movements on everyday in HS, Kavanaugh sure was Mr. McRapey.
Between organizing gang rapes, and throwing daily keggers you wonder how he had time to:
Captain the BB Team
Letter in Track and Football
Edit School newspaper
have an active family life
and be an academic Superstar.
Of course, the semi-monthly gang rapes are no doubt the reason he went after Ms. Ford in the "summer" of "1982 or so". Those gang rapes are addictive!
To bad he had to settle with waving his dick in drunk girls face, when he went to Yale. But then Yale is pretty strict about Gang rape.
Otherwise, it never ceases to amuse how commenters just KNOW that kids in Gaithersburg didn’t have cars, just KNOW that the latest accusing woman is inferior, socially speaking. Everyone just KNOWS so damn much.
@HT, I lived in “affluent Montgomery County” back then, and I lived right across the street from a couple with three teenaged kids. Yes, nearly everyone had cars. Yes, there was beer. No doubt there was sex — teenaged boys and teenaged girls were doing that back in the early sixties when I was in high school.
When my oldest son was in college (not long after the millennium) he was in a four room suite with a wealthy young man. Girls came all the time and spent nights in his room, perhaps (probably?) hoping to land a rich husband. No one was much interested in the other guys in the suite.
"Roughly a decade ago, Ms. Swetnick was involved in a dispute with her former employer, New York Life Insurance Co., over a sexual-harassment complaint she filed, according to people familiar with the matter. Representing her in the complaint was the firm run by Debra Katz, the lawyer currently representing Dr. Ford. "
What are the odds? Again I ask, what are the odds?
https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2018/09/26/whoa.-christine-ford-julie-swetnick-direct-connection
Blogger buwaya said...
"cucks always talk of shooting wars"
There have been a lot of shooting wars though.
Sometimes shortly after certified geniuses said we all were done with that.
The US is too well fed, too well entertained and too highly medicated to start a civil war. Talk of shooting war are feeble rants of frustrated impotents.
> who swore to some things
How do you know she "swore"? When, where, and to who? to the judicial committee? What is the chance of them prosecuting a female "train victim"?
> Rick, I disagree that the weasel words should prevent a perjury or defamation case.
What jurisdiction will be deciding if the "statement"
delivered from Anavatti to media
is "perjury"?
Guy like Avanetti would not fake us out on "sworn" would he?
Anybody been through a divorce? How often are lying affidavits filed in a divorce?
> which should be at least somewhat falsifiable.
> It’s hard to imagine that someone would do that with an absolute lie.
Why?
> There’s got to be some sort of investigation, even if it’s just to ask her some tough questions and find out if she can give any other
1. Statute of limitations exists for reasons.
2. "some sort" of Investigation by who? The US Senate? The FBI? Local police? A "public investigation" for cable TV, 4chan, and reddit?
3. Why do you think there is a truth to "find"?
4. Why can't unsubstantiated complaints be ignored?
McCarthy said Grassley should just take the affidavits and vote. There is no win in dragging this out.
Julie sounds nice.
“Right after I broke up with her, she [Julie Swetnick] was threatening my family, threatening my wife and threatening to do harm to my baby at that time,”
former BF who had to file a restraining order against her.
Can't we all remember those days of Gang rape in HS?
Or at least the guys can. We'd swear each other to secrecy, and then organize a monthly gang rape of some drugged/drunk chicks on the last Saturday of every month.
It was officially known by the code word: [secret not be reveled]
Needless to say, no one ever, ever, said a word. And the chicks were pretty cool with Rape too. Or at least they never said anything, ever, ever.
BTW, i must have missed all those College chicks attending HS parties with Sophomore Boys.
But then I didn't go to Georgetown Prep.
How many people's hearts have you held in your hand, Howard?
Sounds like he's holding yours, insecure Michael K.
Oh no! Don't squeeze that thing!
Be still, Mike's beating little heart!
(It really is little. Like a few cc's in volume, that's it).
Kavanah ran a rape ring for years and no one reported it?
He doesn't even look "Asian".
"The US is too well fed, too well entertained and too highly medicated to start a civil war."
I would normally set up a wager, what better way to settle such a question?
Its a curious bet though, where if you win, we both win, and if I win, we both lose.
So its not going to work.
Democrats are just sick, sick assholes.
Grassley needs to tell Feinstein and company that their disgusting behavior has abused the Kavanaughs, the Constitution and the nation. Accordingly, they have forfeited any claim to any further involvement in the process. Vote him to the floor. Have McConnell call the vote. Have his nomination complete by lunch and tell the Democrats to kiss ass.
Stop treating Democrats like they are honest, worthwhile people. They aren't. They are trash. Treat them like the trash they are. Give them what they deserve.
...hardball game theory got us Gorsuch
What happened to Garland is not unusual, and certainly not unique. There are at least a dozen Supreme Court nominations that the Senate never acted on.
"Hardball game theory" or "Democrats behaving badly", began with Bork, not Garland.
I was just looking at Instapundit, and just like amongst this mob, there's no awareness of anything but angles for getting Kavanaugh off - except for this, in an article chewing out Democrats:
"People don’t understand how common sexual assault and straight-up rape is"
Some people. The rest of us live in the real world, and know from experience why the phrase "In Every Dream Home A Heartache" was invented. I wish I could say blacks were exempt from sexual assaults but I learned early that ain't true. (I still haven't found a black equivalent to "Code Blue" so there's that.)
Look, I've got nothing invested in Kavanaugh. He's just another guy I expect to give me a hard time. I don't think the #MeToo Movement taking his scalp means mine is in any danger. I think it means "Time's Up" and I've been waiting on that as much as anyone can. No one can say I've been quiet. Y'all act like I'm the pretender. Not here and not ever:
"I'm wise to testosterone lies about how girls are nas-stay!" screams lead singer The Crack Emcee in a voice whose edge manages to call to mind both Taj Mahal and Axl Rose. "Here She Comes," a womynist sex rap that first came to my attention as a song from Crack's raw, underground electronic album Newt Hates Me, comes off straight-up pretty in the hands of Little White Radio's two guitarists and astride the cajoling beat of Kevin Carnes, widely acknowleged as the best drummer in San Francisco."
That was in public, Fellas, before a live audience. So, I'ma be like the president and wait to hear what the lady says tomorrow before I decide she's lying, because I know y'all are unfair - you see "enemies" everywhere - but I also know truth is always better than fiction. And y'all ARE fiction.
What are the odds? Again I ask, what are the odds?
Why, I would guess they are whatever the media doesn't tell us they are.
The US is too well fed, too well entertained and too highly medicated to start a civil war.
They’d be the first casualties. So a little culling might be good?
Are the daughters going to be there tomorrow when he talks about pulling a train?
...hardball game theory got us Gorsuch
Democrat logic - maneuvering withing the system to keep a nominee from being confirmed = destroying a man to get him to withdrawal. To a democrat, no difference apparently.
I think it means "Time's Up" and I've been waiting on that as much as anyone can. No one can say I've been quiet. Y'all act like I'm the pretender. Not here and not ever:
Thank you.
Swetnick is crazy cat woman No. 3.
We've seen Dr. Ford's opening statement - do we know if she's confirmed to show up?
Yes, the fact, pretty well established by this point, that Swetnick graduated from high school 3 years before Kavanaugh is kind of a tell this story is bullshit. It would be very, very odd for a college aged girl to attend a high school party once, not mention the 10+ times she claimed. Such age-range crashers are pretty much 100% male from my own observations, and not many of those either- even in the early 80s. However, Swetnick's story is even more ridiculous in this regard in that she wasn't even an alum of the any of the nearby high schools, but one quite a bit further away.
If you respond to the commenter I always delete, I have to delete you too.
I am beginning to suspect that Buwaya is correct- this is not insanity, it is cold-blooded, ruthless pragmatism on the part of the Democrats.
The Dem leadership is not crazy, but the base has been made crazy.
It's not insanity on the part of the Dem leadership. Schumer, Feinstein, et al, and the dirty lawyers are ruthless scum who will do anything, including using their corrupt shills in the media to generate mass hysteria in order to win. They did it with the Russia lie and they're doing it now with the increasingly outlandish, unverifiable Kavanaugh accusations. Whether they succeed in the long run is yet to be seen. We've already witnessed them fail to stop Trump's win.
Going forward, independents like me have to decide whether we want to be governed by unscrupulous, power-hungry Democrats or the party that is too weak to put up a united front against the scumbags. As I've said before I'd rather trust the weaker party with power over me. I don't trust the Dems with power; they want it too damn much. They'll never again get my vote.
What the Hell???
Rebecca Baulhaus of the Wall Street Journal has found an interesting link the two women share, in the form of lawyer Debra Katz.
Roughly a decade ago, Ms. Swetnick was involved in a dispute with her former employer, New York Life Insurance Co., over a sexual-harassment complaint she filed, according to people familiar with the matter. Representing her in the complaint was the firm run by Debra Katz, the lawyer currently representing Dr. Ford. The company ultimately reached a financial settlement with Ms. Swetnick, the people said.
Golly, its a small world, isn't it?
So now the truth about lunatic accuser #3 comes out.
She has a history of sexual harrasment suits and she harrassed her exhusband after he remarried. She even threatened the baby.
Sounds just about right for our leftists.
Threatening a baby? Why, thats just a 5th trimester abortion. The baby cant even take care of itself yet! Plus, you just know the dems could get a pretty penny for all those "not a person at all" body parts.
How many people's hearts have you held in your hand, Howard?
Sounds like he's holding yours, insecure Michael K.
Oh no! Don't squeeze that thing!
No, that thing you are holding is a prick on the way to your mouth.
Remember to swallow so it doesn't run down your chin.
The US is too well fed, too well entertained and too highly medicated to start a civil war. Talk of shooting war are feeble rants of frustrated impotents.
Said the impotent Prime Minister of Austria in 1914.
Howard, history would be good for you. Especially Civil War history. I could give you a reading list if you need one.
The only thing missing is all the hoax accusations rolled up into a hoax dossier and fed to Hillary fanboys and girls at the FBI to get surveillance warrants.
I wish somebody in the United States Senate would speak about the humanity of the unborn child. Speak out about the violence and the killings. Talk about what the fuck is going on. This rape charade is about abortion politics, nothing more and nothing less. Could we get at least one Senator to speak about this? Now is the time. Step up.
LilyBart said...
"Democrat logic - maneuvering withing the system to keep a nominee from being confirmed = destroying a man to get him to withdrawal. To a democrat, no difference apparently."
Using the first black president as a punching bag - and then destroying his legacy - ain't gonna win you no friends or pity. You guys know no bottom - you actually refer to your fellow Americans as "enemies" - but expect everyone to treat you respectfully. I don't know how to say you're "Just Horrible People" any better. You're like the Democrats, in that you don't want to correct your defects - you want others to bow to them. That's not going to get you the country you want, People.
I see groupthink, herd mentality, cultism, partisanship, and stupidity, all balled up and getting tighter by the day, because you're all too stupid to do what's necessary to uncoil this shit. Michael K and Gahrie and Drago will never admit to ever being wrong, or disgusting to be around, or short-sighted, or walking examples of the worst aspects of Manifest Destiny come to life. They'll never see it. So it'll never stop. So they'll always be hated. When blacks think of their types at all.
Hurting such people bothers no one. You don't believe in fair play. You believe in your version of it, like whites crossing the prairie shooting indians. Why you don't know that's true is beyond me.
From Daily Caller:
A Rhode Island man who accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting his friend apologized on Wednesday and said he “made a mistake.”
The man called Rhode Island Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse’s office and claimed that Kavanaugh and Mark Judge, a high school friend of Kavanaugh, drunkenly sexually assaulted one of his friends, according to interview transcripts released by the Senate Judiciary Committee.
A committee investigator asked Kavanaugh about the allegation during an interview on Tuesday, which he denied.
The man’s name was redacted in the transcripts released to the public but the investigator quoted verbatim several outlandish anti-Trump tweets from the man’s Twitter account, allowing reporters to identify him on Twitter as “Jeffrey Catalan.”
Image: screenshot/ Senate Judiciary Committee
“Dear Pentagon, please save my country from the parasite that occupies the White House,” Catalan wrote in one tweet. “Our [sic] you waiting until Russians parachute in like in Red Dawn? Please help!”
screenshot/twitter
Image: screenshot/ Twitter
After Catalan started getting attention on Twitter, he publicly stated that he had recanted the accusation.
screenshot/twitter
Image: screenshot/ Twitter
“Do [sic] everyone who is going crazy about what I had said I have recanted because I have made a mistake and apologize for such mistake,” he wrote.
Is Michael "tiny heart" K. saying that the U.S. fought a civil war in 1914?
Wow. First Craig Venter "discovered" the human genome. Then the U.S. fought a civil war in 1914.
Does his ignorance ever end?
No, that thing you are holding is a prick on the way to your mouth.
Remember to swallow so it doesn't run down your chin.
Sounds like you're familiar enough with the "act" to advise on how to do it properly.
Did Kavanaugh pull a Renate on you, too?
Is it my imagination or are the trolls on this site dumber and more childish than ever?
In comparison, Inga seems sane.
No brighter but less crazy.
Why does this post carry a tag of "A"?
http://minx.cc:1080/?post=377259
"Wow: Ford's Claim of Proof-by-Polygraph is... Terrible"
She wasn't even asked about Kavanaugh?!
Sir Crack-en: "Michael K and Gahrie and Drago will never admit to ever being wrong, or disgusting to be around, or short-sighted, or walking examples of the worst aspects of Manifest Destiny come to
life."
My middle name is not "manifest-destiny".
Though that is a common mistake.
Its "Man-y-Des-e". Im a cousin of Desi Arnaz.
Obviously.
As a cousin of Desi Arnaz, I have decided its appropriate to refer to Crack as My Little Babalu.
Unless that sounds a little too "White Hispanic-y" to everyone.
Yeah, Catalan made a "mistake", alright.
Time to break out the passive voice- lies spread like wildfire.
Francisco D said...
"Is it my imagination or are the trolls on this site dumber and more childish than ever?"
If it gets under your skin, all the better. You're #13 on The List, don't forget. Don't start complaining when your playland for abusing unsuspecting others turns nasty. Just take it like a man and keep up your end of the deal: Asshole once, asshole forever. I mean, there's only ONE BLACK GUY here. You can deal.
And BTW - while we're busy being "dumber and more childish than ever" - what are you?
Why are we getting this through Avenatti? Umm because it is a fantasy that did't happen. It isn't too complex.
Sir Crack-en & My Little Babalu: "You're #13 on The List, don't forget"
But with a bullet baby! Headed to number 1! Personally, I give it an 84 because the lyrics are catchy and its easy to dance to.
Crack goes on and on about progressive New Age nostrums such as homeopathy, Feng Shui, auras, rolfing, chiropractic and the like, but.....
...he doesn't talk much about Elijah Muhammad Farrakhan's visits to the Mothership (where his acolyte Louie believes he is now residing, PBUH), or in black belief in voodoo, santeria, African witch doctors, animism, Nuwabianism, or the nation of Yahwveh...
Or for that matter, in Christianity. Yep, all that gospel singing in all those black churches, all that religiosity gotta stop -- right, Crack?
Oh, and free clue: most conservative white/black Americans don't believe in any of that New Age shit, either. Got it?
Why are we getting this through Avenatti? Umm because it is a fantasy that did't happen. It isn't too complex.
Yes, the FBI did something like six background checks on Kavanaugh. Amazing how they didn't hear anything about this, isn't it?
My Little Babalu: "And BTW - while we're busy being "dumber and more childish than ever" - what are you?"
Uh, sitting here and noticing that you are being dumber and more childish?
Hmm, that was rather easy. Is that what you were really shooting for?
Crack Says:
Look, I've got nothing invested in Kavanaugh. He's just another guy I expect to give me a hard time. I don't think the #MeToo Movement taking his scalp means mine is in any danger. I think it means "Time's Up" and I've been waiting on that as much as anyone can. No one can say I've been quiet. Y'all act like I'm the pretender. Not here and not ever:
Elsewhere, Crack says that Democrats lost Obama's SC pick. Yeah, if I were a Democrat, I would be bothered by that. But, is it OK to use "dirty" tricks?
It seems to me there are whole classes of good potential supreme court judges that will be excluded by "guilty until proven innocent, if it advances my agenda." What person is going to put themselves through that? Well, women, and very power hungry men. It will exclude males who have a genuine interest in law (after reading Carpenter vs. the US, I think Gorsuch may be one such).
Unfortunately with Ford, we will never know the truth, no matter how she sounds tomorrow (outside some last minute credible corroboration), due to the problem with memory.
The SC will outlast everyone alive today. You want to poison future SC picks so Democrats can get midterm votes, by potentially stalling a SC judge for a couple of years, until they hopefully regain the presidency?
I say "Not worth it."
Also, I wonder where Crack draws the line. The last two accusers are, in my opinion, not credible. Is it now OK to lie to take down an SC nominee? And if lying has no consequences, there will be more of it, and real accusations of this kind will be taken with less seriousness.
I don't see how this approach is OK or good.
If you respond to the commenter I always delete, I have to delete you too.
Whom might that be, I wonder? I can't imagine. I'm very curious.
Here's the title of Crack's new "won't-make-the-charts-anywhere-but-what-the fuck: that's Whitey's fault, ain't it, Beyoncé?"
"It's all about MEEEEE, it's ALLLL about MEEEE!!"
Guy posts here as an political omnisicent, a world-class sociologist, someone who blames Whitey for all that's gone wrong in his life, and then tell us----(para) "I can't remember how many parties I attended that ended in gunfire"---AS IF it was whites there doing the shooting.
AS IF rich-white-kid-parties-ending-in-shootings are a common occurrence.
Snort.
Drago said...
As a cousin of Desi Arnaz, I have decided its appropriate to refer to Crack as My Little Babalu.
*********
I think it works---after all, he's gotta whole lotta 'splainin' to do.
(but, being neuronically challenged, can't deliver.)
‘This Is Such A Deeply Flawed Affidavit’ – Dershowitz Questions Avenatti’s Legal Skills
http://minx.cc:1080/?post=377259
"Wow: Ford's Claim of Proof-by-Polygraph is... Terrible"
She wasn't even asked about Kavanaugh?!
An obvious fake polygraph. What else is new in the Kavanaugh wars.?
Blogger President Pee-Pee Tape said...
Is Michael "tiny heart" K. saying that the U.S. fought a civil war in 1914?
Ritmo is back ? Is the McDonalds shift over.\?
Die anyone read what he posts ?
Go away twerp.
Blogger Howard said...
Mike: why are you so pathetically insecure?
Howard why do you feel the need to lie ?
becauseIdbefired said...
"Crack says that Democrats lost Obama's SC pick. Yeah, if I were a Democrat, I would be bothered by that. But, is it OK to use "dirty" tricks?"
First, I'm not bothered, if you're thinking so - I'm not a Democrat. And "Dirty Tricks" in politics are known as a Republican specialty, so - clearly - yes.
"It seems to me there are whole classes of good potential supreme court judges that will be excluded by "guilty until proven innocent, if it advances my agenda." What person is going to put themselves through that? Well, women, and very power hungry men. It will exclude males who have a genuine interest in law (after reading Carpenter vs. the US, I think Gorsuch may be one such)."
I picture white men on a train in the 1800s, shooting Indians, and thinking they "have a genuine interest in law" when I consider someone as distant as Kavanaugh is, from my experience, being in robes. Just as Trump is "the wrong man to do the right thing" those "women and power hungry men" might be actually what the nation needs - which might be why they're so desperate to get in.
"Unfortunately with Ford, we will never know the truth, no matter how she sounds tomorrow (outside some last minute credible corroboration), due to the problem with memory."
Maybe. But I know enough about the media to know y'all are judging the equivalent of still photos as though they're moving pictures. This crowd always has a hard time seeing other human beings in full.
"The SC will outlast everyone alive today. You want to poison future SC picks so Democrats can get midterm votes, by potentially stalling a SC judge for a couple of years, until they hopefully regain the presidency?"
Sure, why not?
"I say "Not worth it.""
I say "Your life isn't the one on the line."
"Also, I wonder where Crack draws the line."
I like this: I tell you the Democrat line and it becomes what? MINE. ME. The Republican since 2004. See, that's how you guys get fucked up - you can't get me, or reality, straight in your heads. I'm the now-former Republican who's been saying where you fuck up. All the rest think they're doing Republicans (and the country) a favor by LYING. Everything is right on their side and everything is wrong on the Left. It's bullshit. You're both fucked-up in the same ways about different things.
"The last two accusers are, in my opinion, not credible."
All you know is what you've read. It's stupid to judge it. Wait for reality like a smart person - not a reporter's words.
"Is it now OK to lie to take down an SC nominee?"
Now OK? It was ALWAYS OK. It's as OK as saying we win the World Series every year. I told you it's all lies.
"And if lying has no consequences, there will be more of it, and real accusations of this kind will be taken with less seriousness."
You're making me laugh because you think this just started. Read more history: we didn't win WWII either - Stalin did. We just reaped most of the rewards. And the Iranians have good reasons to be pissed at us - as do the Palestinians. See? Lies. We live in them, and whites are happy that way, because - as long as they last - the Michael Ks and Gahries and Drago's get to say they're great and everyone else is shit to be abused. Take them away, and they're Just Horrible People. And everyone learns from them.
"I don't see how this approach is OK or good."
Doctors, heal thyself.
“And BTW - while we're busy being "dumber and more childish than ever" - what are you?”
He’s psycho.
OK, over 360 comments made before I got here, none of which I am going to read before observing that AA poses so many questions in her post -- all of which have the air of actually lending credibility to this mountain of absurdities.
That polygraph could not be more fake than if Noted Self-Designated "scientist" Sir Crack-en himself had authored the polygraph report, bundled it with additional charges and fed it to FusionGPS attorney LLR Chuck for "smoothing" into dossier to be handed to Bob Mueller.
Inga: "He’s psycho"
He looks nothing like Anthony Perkins.
He’s psycho.
Inga sweetheart,
I think that you show your affection towards Michael K by calling him senile. Now I am flattered that you call me psycho.
xoxo
Sir Crack-en & My Little Babalu: "Read more history: we didn't win WWII either - Stalin did."
LOL
Crack, you may have some important things to say on race, and, if so, I would like to hear them because Republicans need to persuade more blacks that their policies are better than the Democrats' policies. But honestly, all I hear from you is, "whites = bad." Maybe it's me. Maybe I am just stupid. But, if persuading folks is your goal, you have to take your audience as you find them. And if "whites = bad" is not the message you are trying to convey but it is what your audience is hearing, then you need to find a different way of saying whatever it is you are trying to say.
Also, whatever points you are trying to make on race frequently get further muddled in all of the discussion of New Age/cults/homeopathy that you seem to bring into nearly every conversation, no matter the topic. Raising those things no matter the topic just erodes your credibility. Please note, I am not defending those things, just saying they don't pertain to THAT many of Ann's posts.
Finally, talking about how super smart you are and ritually ending your posts with the ad hominem "Just horrible people" is not persuasive and further erodes your credibility. I don't write any of this in snark. I am just trying to get from you a better explanation of what may be important points on race matters.
Every day I speak on getting people out of cults, stopping con artists, and ways to prevent people from being abused - with an interest in doing so without actually taking anybody's freedom away.
Some days, one or two people will pipe up and say they agree with me, but, most days, I face a barrage of unfeeling assholes, spouting nonsense I've heard a billion times, about why we MUST let the abuses go on.
That, to me, exemplifies their attitudes towards abuse in this country. I don't think rapes bother them because, if they did, they would be talking about them and not me. They have no interest in these subjects. They say so daily. Abuse is my "obsession" - not a real issue to be dealt with. A real issue to be dealt with is if rich white men get high ranking jobs to take people's rights away and make them happy to talk shit. That's their interest. You know the old saying:
Character is what you do when you think no one is looking.
White men - especially - thought no one will ever see any of this. They don't think reparations are coming either. And don't forget Rap's not music. And women and blacks would never get the vote. Slavery would never end, too. Sigh. Reality.
People this stubborn are to bound to be profoundly disappointed by it.
It seems like only yesterday that Stalins shock troops were Island hopping around the pacific while pushing the Germans out of North Africa, the Med, up the Italian Peninsula, putting together the largest amphibious landing in the history of the world all the while supplying billions in material to the US and western nations...
........NOT!
LOL
Sir Crack-en, a very very "special" kind of dumb...
"Dunning-Kruger cleanup on aisle Crack!"
He looks nothing like Anthony Perkins.
Thanks Drago,
I actually look like Sean Connery when he was my age.
I am getting the Scottish brogue down. Inga will wet her granny panties.
Next up for Sir Crack-en: How the ancient Sumerians actually did all the "heavy lifting" to get us to the moon!
I can hardly wait!
Ritmo is back ?
Die anyone read what he posts ?
You did, dummy. You already responded to me.
With some bullshit about the U.S. fighting a civil war in 1914!
Your senile dementia is getting worse and worse.
Michael K. is what happens when you let senile old twits get their hands on a keyboard!
It's 11:37. Do you know where your demented grand-pappy is?
Step away from the keyboard, Michael K. The internet is too rough and tumble for a demented old man like you. You're liable to get hurt.
most days, I face a barrage of unfeeling assholes,
When you meet an asshole chances are they're an asshole. When everyone you meet is an asshole you're the asshole. Works for racists too!
Which is good since you're both.
Mr. Majestyk said...
"Crack, you may have some important things to say on race, and, if so, I would like to hear them because Republicans need to persuade more blacks that their policies are better than the Democrats' policies. But honestly, all I hear from you is, "whites = bad." Maybe it's me. Maybe I am just stupid. But, if persuading folks is your goal, you have to take your audience as you find them."
HA! I'm here. These guys aren't going out amongst blacks and talking this shit. They stay amongst their own kind and pat each other on the back. If you don't take the more vocal Klan members here into consideration, when judging my comments, then I can't help you. I mean, if all you see is me as bad - and not their heckling - then I don't want you on "my side" anyway.
""If "whites = bad" is not the message you are trying to convey but it is what your audience is hearing, then you need to find a different way of saying whatever it is you are trying to say."
No - I want some white people here to hear "Whites Bad" and I want it to mean THEM AND WHITES LIKE THEM. Freeman Hunt is always my example of someone here who disagrees with me sometimes and I don't lay into her. Why? BECAUSE SHE TREATS ME LIKE A HUMAN BEING. For some reason, that's hard for others here. I can't imagine why.
"Whatever points you are trying to make on race frequently get further muddled in all of the discussion of New Age/cults/homeopathy that you seem to bring into nearly every conversation, no matter the topic."
First, I got no "black message" that you're receiving. Like some whites, here (see the jackass who keeps calling me a "Homeless Jesse Jackson") my being black seems to have affected your mind and made you decide to stereotype me as a black activist. I am not - I am a black person. My interest is in NewAge cultism. I am an activist about that. I am not muddying the two - you are.
I hate being blamed for other's mistakes.
"Raising those things no matter the topic just erodes your credibility."
I am The Crack Emcee. Nothing hurts my credibility. I have no credibility.
"Finally, talking about how super smart you are and ritually ending your posts with the ad hominem "Just horrible people" is not persuasive and further erodes your credibility."
I said, compared to the idiots, I feel smart. How that's bad, you must explain. And just horrible people should be called what, exactly?
"I don't write any of this in snark. I am just trying to get from you a better explanation of what may be important points on race matters."
No, you stereotyped me, and then held me to that standard. I hope straightening you out - without insulting you - will make you refrain from doing so in the future. Don't be like Michael K, Gahrie, and Drago, etc. Be a man.
Crack, I did not say nor imply you were a Democrat. I was simply pointing out I've had the same thought that Democrats have justification to be angry over their "stolen" SC pick ("stolen" because I don't know enough of the ins and outs, the Biden rule, and all the games to make sense of whether it was fair or not).
My question for you, since I'm trying to understand your position, where is the bottom? It seems presumption of innocence is OK to dispense with. Is stating things that aren't true under oath OK? That's illegal. If illegal actions are OK, which are, and which aren't? The sense I get from you is the bottom is "what you can get away with."
Maybe this is the way things have always been, if you look hard enough. But, isn't it better to elevate so the right people get in (right means those who will look after the people's interests, like Gorsuch seems to do)?
> You're both fucked-up in the same ways about different things.
You seem to not like I might assume you are Democrat. Why is it wrong for me, but not wrong for you to assume? Again, just curious.
Sir Crack-en: "Don't be like Michael K, Gahrie, and Drago, etc. Be a man."
LOL
You're as old as you feel!
"No, you stereotyped me, and then held me to that standard."
Yeah, Crack wrote that. Just now. Without irony.
Too too perfect.
I'm curious what else is going on that isn't getting reported on, since all the media cares about is this circus.
Crack, thanks for the civil reply. I would like to continue this discussion with you but, sadly, I am up past my bedtime. Gotta get some sleep. Maybe another time? Have a good night.
BTW - If anyone goes to look at my new project, The Coal Train, you'll find that "Race" is actually one of the undernourished topics because, honestly, y'all are more interested in it than I am. I've actually got a lot to beef with BLM members about right now, but, except for Mr. Majestyk tonight, nhardly anyone here has shown any interest in my views on anything but what the assholes want to shoehorn me into - which is what they get - unless I shoehorn back, usually with NewAge.
Your stereotyping makes this what it is. Bagoh20's got his bling, no? He didn't have to go there. He likes going there. This is the crowd for that. When I'm not here.
That more aren't bothered by it has always been America's problem, not mine.
I for one expect the Dems to keep trying this crap on the next nominee by Trump, especially if she's a woman.
"I was one of 12 boys who ran a train on the nominee at a party in high school. I didn't know any of the other boys, and I can't recall anything about the party other than her lying there yelling at me to stop whiskeydicking around and get it in her. Then she handed me her red Solo cup of jungle juice, with ice, and i took one sip. After that everything went black. I don't know how I got home and I remain traumatized by her objectification of me and my 11 unknown co-assailants to this day."
hardly anyone here has shown any interest in my views on anything ...Your stereotyping
No one is stereotyping you as a racist, you proved that all on your own. So it's hardly shocking people don't care much about a racist's views.
The Crack Emcee: "BTW - If anyone goes to look at my new project, The Coal Train, you'll find that "Race" is actually one of the undernourished topics because, honestly, y'all are more interested in it
than I am."
LOL
One of the most inadvertantly funny things ever to be written in "Teh Interwebs".
becauseIdbefired said...
"My question for you, since I'm trying to understand your position, where is the bottom?"
I use politics for entertainment and art. I've been watching this same drama since 1979, when I joined the Navy and an officer taught me how to read a newspaper, and how it related to my life. In all that time, I have seen NO BOTTOM to what people will do to win in this country, and - until attacked - they have no clue we're a young nation, trying to get on our feet, and not the old hands who know everything, they imagine. Worst of all, we're still a nation of con artists, who will slit their countrymen's throats for a buck. That's not a promising start for any country.
"The sense I get from you is the bottom is "what you can get away with.""
Here's an article about DSHEA - a law put together by Mitt Romney and Orrin Hatch and those other cultists of integrity known as The Mormons. As you can see, it essentially means "what you can get away with."" I want it stopped. I've mentioned it. The people here, not so much. I'll live. They won't.
"Maybe this is the way things have always been, if you look hard enough. But, isn't it better to elevate so the right people get in (right means those who will look after the people's interests, like Gorsuch seems to do)?"
First, the people's interests have to be determined and agreed upon. Is a permanently pissed black underclass in our interest? Seems to be, according to this crowd. I live in a nation that had to be almost FORCED to give Dr. King a day of honor. What should I expect as a citizen if that's how they treat him? Hell, I don't even screw around like he did and these fools treat me like a leper. I don't think a man like Kavanaugh is going to help with that, but I could be wrong.
"You seem to not like I might assume you are Democrat."
I get regarded as a Democrat a lot, here, and a hardcore Republican offline - the dilemma of the black conservative: There's no safe space and no way to make anyone happy. I can't be with my people, according to the Right, and I can't talk to anyone else, according to the Left. So blacks are the only group I can be with. Which is fine with me, if that's it, because we cool. I am a race man.
"Why is it wrong for me, but not wrong for you to assume? Again, just curious."
No - you assumed ideas, I clearly labeled as someone else's, were my own. The Democrats are pissed about Obama. I didn't vote for him - twice. No one working with Oprah gets my vote. She said "The Secret" was science back in the '90s and politicians in both parties are trying to blame Trump for bringing unreason to America? Put-Leaze. I'm not the one.
I live in a world of lies. But I know that because I've followed our story for a long, long time - I was outside Iran, trying to save our hostages, when it started for me - and I've stayed focused on what's important. Fuck the drama. The story's no good if you can't stay on-point while the media hypes distracting bullshit like this. Cults are waaay more important. Nobody's checking their power at all.
I mean, what do you think you're fighting, right now?
Here's someone WITH credibility - since I have none:
'An Unthinking Cult': Malkin Calls Out Liberal Hollywood Women for Anti-Kavanaugh Video
When our society is no more sophisticated than this one, we've got a problem, and it ain't Kavanaugh or Ford.
Malkin - kababayan ko 'yan.
My homegirl.
Can I ask a question?
Why are you such assholes to Crack?
Is it so hard for you to just treat him like a human being?
You guys are tribalists to the core. There's more to life.
Become human. Become decent.
No one working with Oprah gets my vote. She said "The Secret" was science back in the '90s...
And what's your gripe? That this idea of hers was very influential? Lol. Right. Oprah has changed America's understanding of science. Hilarious.
You may not be the asshole that your fellow conservatives are but you're just as crazy as they are.
"I'm curious what else is going on that isn't getting reported on, since all the media cares about is this circus."
Well, it was discovered that the Illudium Pu-36 asteroid 1.2 kilometers mean diameter will strike the Earth on Sunday. Other than that, the media have ignored no big stories.
You know...I go through these posts, see our most vocal homeopathic hater on the site and click his posts closed.
It really doesn't help that every other third post is referencing him.
While it is great for his ego and neediness, it isn't so good for
1) following Althouse's own self described and rigorously enforced rules on everyone BUT the black guy (Althouse has to continue to prove she isn't a racist, I guess, with the racism of low expectations. How can she think that Cracked can follow 'White' rules?)
2) finding content and opinions which are interesting to read on the issue.
Granted, I take Althouse to task for her blatant hypocrisy at times, but generally ignore the Urine Soaked Idiot and Inga, though I slip on Inga occasionally because she does unapologetic stupid with style. The Joy Behar of Althouse.
Why is this site wasting our time on these fantasies?
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