On Inauguration Day, I am in Seattle. Late in the afternoon, my old friend Lyn sends me a photo of an anti-Trump sticker someone found in Japan. It’s cleverly designed: three peaks that on second glance turn out to be Trump sandwiched between two Klansmen. I want to write back and say, Ha, but instead, as a joke, I respond, “Dear Lyn, I’m sorry you’re so opposed to change, or too small-minded to move past your narrow assumptions. In the future, I’d appreciate your keeping things like this to yourself. David”Of course, Sedaris is completely anti-Trump, and he doesn't deserve to be excluded by those who are doing this kind of excluding. But he's taking on the position of a person who is rendered a nonperson because he's a Trump supporter. I don't know if his story is true, because "Lyn" must have known him enough to know he's capable of deadpan humor and because how could anyone not want to maintain a direct line to David Sedaris? But whether it's true or made up, he chose in the end to highlight the problem of interpersonal alienation, and I think it's important when even those who hate Trump can see how much of a problem that is.
A minute later, I send a follow-up email that says, “Just kidding.” And it bounces back, as do the next three emails I send. She’s blocked me! I realize. After thirty-eight years of friendship!
I go to bed that night and lie awake, worried that she’s telling everyone I’m a Trump supporter. The news will spread and by morning I’ll be ruined. But it was just a joke, I say to myself in the dark room. A horrible, horrible joke.
I know people in Madison who would say some things about Trump that are not entirely hostile but they feel that they can't, because they'd become pariahs. They'd lose all their friends. So, they go along and do the censorship they think their life depends on.
326 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 326 of 326Hey, Crack, welcome back. I always want to hear what you have to say.
"Money for nothin', chicks for free...."
That ain't workin'...but I suppose that's the way you do it,
You start a blogsite on "teh interwebs"..
" I just want reparations, too."
Can I apply for some for my two great uncles that died in the Civil War? One died after a wound at Vicksburg and the other died of measles in camp.
The older one left a wife and two kids.
The younger was 18.
What do you think appropriate reparations would be ?
You may enjoy the politicization of sports and talking about LeBron James, or the latest political tweet/stuff, with your friends, family or acquaintances. Your family and friends must enjoy talking about politics at weekend parties.
No. I don't. And we don't. We never bring it up.
But don't blame Trump for bringing politics into sports when he's simply responding to those who initiated it.
Want politics and sports separate? Good. So do I. Take it up with those who couldn't resist shoving Baracketology down our throats for eight years.
And lest you forget, BLM and the kneeling started under the previous Administration. But apparently it wasn't political then.
FullMoon said...
"Money for nothin', chicks for free...."
Money for nothing? Since I was last here I've broken a bunch of bones, had to almost kill a man, and barely got away with my own life before I finally landed on my feet - and I've stayed broke the whole time - how's that compare to your life? And mine isn't unusual, so consider that before you decide it's so cushy to be born here. It's not:
Whites are winning a war of attrition against justice in this country, and have been since white kids kicked Indian skulls through the streets of New York. I'm older now. I always knew the score. We die out and there's no problem left. Just y'all and Candace, sneering at us about "the plantation" and wondering aloud why we don't do better in schools with no grass, teachers with no credentials, and a country with no compassion for us. Charming. It can be a sad and wicked place, these United Staes, but - like capitalism - it's the best we're gonna get.
I remind my "brothers" of that all-the-time.
Freder: Sounds like bullshit to me…
Althouse: You can't handle the truth! Freder, we live in a world that has civility bullshit, and that civility bullshit has to be pointed out by women with blogs. Who's gonna do it? You? You, President Pee Pee Tape? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Hillary and you curse the Obama Get Out The Vote Effort. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know, that Hillary's poorly-run campaign, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my pointing out of civility bullshit, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives! You don't want the truth, because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me pointing out 63 million Americans voted for Trump. You need me pointing out 63 million Americans voted for Trump. We use words like "post", "comment", "civility". We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very truth that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I would rather you just said "thank you", and hit my Amazon link. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a keyboard, and start a blog. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!
walter said...
“How about blacks using the term?”
I don’t know of any blacks who talk of plantations.
“And if individualism is off-putting as well.
Do reveal the current poll tested welcoming wording.”
Just aim for accuracy and not trying to be hurtful.
Amadeus 48 said...
“Hey, Crack, welcome back. I always want to hear what you have to say.”
This is great. Thank you.
Michael K said...
“Can I apply for some [reparations] for my two great uncles that died in the Civil War? “
I can’t think of a single black person who would stop you from trying - except for the ones conservatives support.
Kevin:
Althouse: You can't handle the truth! Freder, we live in a world that has civility bullshit,......"
HR Rep (quietly)
Did you expense the lap dance?
Sales VP
I did the job you sent me to do.
HR Rep (shouting)
Did you expense the lap dance?
Sales VP (shouting)
You're goddamn right I did!
I suppose conservative blacks aren't authentic when they use that term.
If you really do want reparations, the new young radicals might be the best shot. Seem to think money is something to be endlessly harvested.
After decades of affirmative action, it's a bit late to table.
Especially since even that would settle things once and for all is naive...as naive as those who voted for Obama to heal the racial divisions.
Because our host has yet again mentioned David Sedaris in a post, I finally decided to go figure out who this guy is and to hopefully learn why Ann is so interested in him. The Wikipedia entry for him says this in the first sentence: He "is an American humorist, comedian, author, and radio contributor...". Got it? Humorist and Comedian - first and second. How is it then that poor Lyn failed to understand that he was joking?
And I still can't figure out why Ann is so enamored with him. I'd go listen to his stuff but we live in the age of That's Not Funny, so no.
-sw
So nice seeing Crack again. If he decides to stick around, things here on these comments sections will get very interesting. Hi Crack, sounds like you’ve found some peace of mind, well as much as anyone can in these times we live in.
"Whites sneeringly talking of plantations."
The sneering is at the white left for their active participation in making sure
they keep people (blacks) trapped on the failed ideological plantation.
" I just want reparations, too."
Serious questions. I'm not trying to fluff off the past. I'm being logical about the present.
1. How do you determine who has to pay reparations? What about my great grandparents who came from Wales in 1890 and Ireland in the 1880's. They had nothing to do with slavery. They were mining coal and growing potatoes. My other distant ancestors who fought and died to end slavery and those of my family that were Quakers since the 1600's and participated in the underground railroad, at their own peril, in Indiana, helping slaves escape? Do we get a pass if we have Greek or Roma in our genes?
2. How do you determine who GETS paid? Just anyone and everyone of color? People who have immigrated from Haiti in the 1900's long after slavery? Immigrated from Kenya? People who What if the person of "color'" is are part white? Partial payments based on skin tone depth and/or genetic composition? Are we going to use the paint chip or one drop of blood theory of the past?
3. Where does the money come from for reparations? Tax everyone? Only tax those who have a history of being slave owners 150 years ago?. Just white people? More paint chips I guess. Exempt Mexicans? Chinese? Muslims who had a big historical part in the slave trade? 50% tax for those who are half white/half black. Perhaps they should get 50% reparations for the half black genes? That would even out nicely. Pay half/get half.
4. How are we going to prove any of this to determine who, how much etc.
It was a terrible, horrible, moral sin, and a lingering wrong that continues to echo in today's society. HOWEVER, I don't think there is any monetary way to make it right or correct the past without angering and inflaming a lot of people who had nothing to do with slavery.
Sometimes when you attempt to fix things, without thinking through the consequences you create a bigger quagmire.
FullMoon said...
“Me? Born on easy street. Never owned a callous, although I have heard of them.”
Destroyed my back trying to make money - moving nine tons of rocks. The discs are fucked in three places.
“Never been jumped or ran from a gang.”
I have been jumped, have ran from gangs - including Nazis ripping me off for the ZeitgeistSF bar (I named the bar and designed the logo but never got paid) and then there’s the mob of average French people who thought I was African and, thus, didn’t have a reason to be around an ATM. I’ve lived, People.
“Never got a spankin; with an electric cord or laid across my back or been punched in the face as a kid by an adult.”
I once caught a board with a nail in it, delivered by my foster mother, when I was about 10. A foster brother cold cocked me when I said I didn’t believe in God. I was about 14 then. A pack of black thugs set on me for listening to Led Zeppelin and a pack of white thugs attacked me with a huge table leg - as I slept - for listening to Gil Scott Heron. In both cases, I was listening to the upsetting music because someone suggested I would like it.
“Never shared bread and butter sandwiches and water with siblings for dinner.”
Getting the shits from eating too much government cheese is the real deal.
“Never had to walk for miles in pouring rain in industrial section asking every business if they had an opening.”
Utah. In the snow. I was there a few months ago. Had to walk 20 miles. Don’t ask.
“Never doing odd jobs and selling weed to supplement welfare while looking for a job every day.”
You just Little Lord Fauntleroy, ain’t ya?
“Born on weasy street with a silver spoon and just got a little bit better every single day of my life.”
More power to you, Man. I hope you’re a good person.
“Were I not so introverted, would be hob nobbin' with the rich and famous 'stead of slummin' here :-)”
I spend 90% of my time locked as far away from the world as possible. It just works now.
ie: When Kanye reveals a drop of support for the person that causes the most fear and loathing on the left, very real threats of expulsion and isolation come out of the white left. *better get back on that plantation, Kanye*
Oh - and my earliest memory is of being hit with an ironing cord.
"And if individualism is off-putting as well . . . ."
Individualism seems to be off-putting a lot of people these days, on the so-called Left as well as the so-called Right, or at least the Alt Right.
I've had shocked-looking people say, "You actually supported TRUMP???!!" You know, they're shocked because I'm educated and can speak in complete, grammatical sentences. I usually answer, "Reluctantly," and when they say, "But WHY???!!!" I give 'em the ol' Statist Scale--aka the Coercion Meter--which I've explained here in the past: 0 to 10, 0 being perfect libertarian anarchism, 10 being perfect tyranny, and 6 to about 9 being what I call "the State-f*cker Zone," where one finds Obama, Hillary, etc. I ask them where Trump falls on that scale, and if he's higher on the scale than Hillary. That pretty much shuts them up, because statists don't like to own their statism.
Inga: "Hi Crack, sounds like you’ve found some peace of mind, well as much as anyone can in these times we live in."
Yes, a booming economy, lowest unemployment rates for Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, non-college educated people in history/decades, massive investment by businesses in core business operations in the US, hundreds of billions of dollars being repatriated to the US from overseas, decreasing trade deficits, increased exports, US becoming the biggest energy producer in the world (and net exporter), manufacturing jobs being added monthly in the tens of thousands....
My God, its a virtual hell-scape.....
Oh - and my earliest memory is of being hit with an ironing cord.
Uh, sure, one of those well insulated with cotton cords. They tickle
CE: "I spend 90% of my time locked as far away from the world as possible."
They let you out 10% of the time?
Huh.
Not so bad really.
FullMoon said...
“I see your point. How much do I owe ya’?”
You wouldn’t pay, directly. The government does. It made this reality possible. I’m a foster child. It’s practically my parent.
walter said...
“
I suppose conservative blacks aren't authentic when they use that term.”
No, it’s not that. They just don’t consider themselves on a plantation, since they’re not, so they don’t address it that way. Not many “Gone With The Wind” references used amongst gangstas, if that makes sense. Funny story:
A guy I saw running with a gun a few days ago just ran up to me, a couple of hours ago, and then said he liked my new song. Wants to collaborate. Said he always wanted to “do politics”. Crazy.
“If you really do want reparations, the new young radicals might be the best shot. Seem to think money is something to be endlessly harvested.”
That’s nonsense. MLK wanted reparations.
“After decades of affirmative action, it's a bit late to table.”
It wouldn’t be if we were serious about making a nation and not just pretending.
“Especially since even that would settle things once and for all is naive...as naive as those who voted for Obama to heal the racial divisions.”
I don’t think so. Just because “The Age of Unreason” is upon us doesn’t mean we’re all crazy.
CE: "Not many “Gone With The Wind” references used amongst gangstas, if that makes sense."
Absolutely false.
What "gangsta" hasn't said "I don't give a damn" at least once? (Speak the truth now...)
CE: "Just because “The Age of Unreason” is upon us doesn’t mean we’re all crazy."
How is "The Age of Unreason" to be described? Based on what criteria/outcomes/actions? Is this a global thing, or a geo-specific thing?
This is where you go off the rails with unsupportable nonsense like that.
"I just want reparations, too."
OK, let's do it. Provided that:
1. The offspring of the African slave sellers pay back the money they got for selling their fellow Africans, with interest.
2. Blacks pay reparations to the offspring of white Union veterans, higher $$ for casualties, who liberated them.
3. Not a penny from people who immigrated after 1865. Not a penny to people who immigrated after 1865. Appropriate discounts for people of mixed heritage.
4. Afterward, not a word about slavery in any context other than school history, for any reason. Immediate imprisonment or expulsion for any violations.
Goldang ot Crack, stop with the horror stories, you bustin' me up.
Life experiences build character. Whenever I read about some kid being burnt with cigarettes or locked in a cage or closet or basement until they starve to death or end up in emergency room with multiple broken bones from 'falling down stairs', I am grateful I had it so easy. My circumstances and yours shared by millions and millions of others. Could have been much worse. All that stuff makes for interesting conversation, sometimes, that is all. Suppose you feel the same way.
Blogger Drago said...
CE: "Not many “Gone With The Wind” references used amongst gangstas, if that makes sense."
Absolutely false.
What "gangsta" hasn't said "I don't give a damn" at least once? (Speak the truth now...)
8/6/18, 4:29 PM
Goddamn it, Drago, we'all tryin' to be serious here, born under a bad sign an' all... if it wasn't for bad luck, etc...
The interesting one-upmanship contest between Crack and Full Moon, illustrates a point. You have no way of knowing what another person's experiences. You can't prejudge solely by the color palette.
You can try to 'walk a mile' in another person's shoes and imagine what it was like for someone. Or suppose what it IS like for someone. But it is still imagination.
It reminds me of when Bill Clinton was biting his lower lip and exclaiming...I feel your pain. Jackass.
No. You don't. You can't. You might be able to imagine it and maybe even get close. But really know or experience it. Never.
Inga said...
“Hi Crack, sounds like you’ve found some peace of mind, well as much as anyone can in these times we live in.”
Hi Inga. Yeah, slowing down a little. I learned to cook. That’s a biggie.
Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...
“The sneering is at the white left for their active participation in making sure
they keep people (blacks) trapped on the failed ideological plantation.”
The Right condescends, the Left manipulates (and panders) and I’m stuck trying to explain Charlottesville (“It was propaganda, made from just 100 guys with tiki torches, for the networks to make you mad!”) or what Jay-Z and Letterman are talking about on Netflix, to a room full of people who’ve never heard of Picasso (“He’s a painter, y’all”) but laugh uproariously when David Letterman doesn’t know what a “paper route” is.
Our lives are NOTHING alike, my friend.
They doin' reparations in South Africa. Let's see how that works out and learn from it.
“If you really do want reparations, the new young radicals might be the best shot. Seem to think money is something to be endlessly harvested.”
That’s nonsense. MLK wanted reparations.
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Determined to live in any past that suits.
“After decades of affirmative action, it's a bit late to table.”
It wouldn’t be if we were serious about making a nation and not just pretending.
--
Yes, especially the nation debating the dollar figure required to dispel any suspicion of pretending.
Totally healing, certainly.
Not a fan of Nietszche, but this thread surely does illustrate, and perhaps give validity to, his idea of eternal recurrence.
We have all been here before, before, before. We will all be here again, again, again.
And Crack will go on talking about the same old things -- namely, himself -- forever, forever, forever.
The horror. The horror.
Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...
*better get back on that plantation, Kanye*
Blacks really don’t talk that way. Nobody speaks of plantations, in any context. Just conservatives. And blacks don’t like it. I’m used to it, but it seems counter-productive to their goal.
FullMoon said...
Uh, sure, one of those well insulated with cotton cords. They tickle.
Uh, no - it left a welt, and woke my mind up to my surroundings at about 3 years old, I think.
Drago said...
“How is "The Age of Unreason" to be described? Based on what criteria/outcomes/actions? Is this a global thing, or a geo-specific thing?
This is where you go off the rails with unsupportable nonsense like that.”
I remember you. Sigh. The Age of Unreason by Frank Furedi. Apology accepted.
And it WASN’T Trump, Y’all.
DustBunnyQueen (Hi)
I didn't miss you on purpose. I will answer your reparations post next.
Hi Crack. Still think killing cops is OK?
Just a reminder...
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Crack >>Easy - remind you police are overseers and slave catchers
DtM: I must have been absent the days they taught that at the academy.
Crack >>I'm fine with whatever blacks have to do to escape them - including trying to restrict THEIR freedom by killing them.
DtM: Finally! Crack says killing white cops is OK, as long as you are black.
Thanks for making your position clear.
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Others welcome you back.
Put me in the "No thanks" column.
Dust Bunny Queen said...
The interesting one-upmanship contest between Crack and Full Moon, illustrates a point. You have no way of knowing what another person's experiences. You can't prejudge solely by the color palette.
Crack wins. Point is, that was then this is now. Hafta wonder if crack be singing the blues if he gets a break and becomes rich with his music, or will he recognize it as black priviledge?
Most interesting is that Mike K's comment started it. The doc is as racist as the alt right guy who posts here. Doc clueless and will deny it. He is like crack, judge an entire race by the worse people in it but, Oh! I know some good ones, haha!
Michael K said...
“Can I apply for some [reparations] for my two great uncles that died in the Civil War? “
I can’t think of a single black person who would stop you from trying - except for the ones conservatives support.
You misunderstand, Crack. I want reparations from blacks that have been living high since 1964.
The NAACP has plenty of money. How about ACORN ? Some of that slush fund BLM scoops up.
Oh, and don’t forget The Enemies of Reason by Richard Dawkins and How Mumbo-Jumbo Conquered the World: A Short History of Modern Delusions by Francis When, all declaring we lost our marbles in the late 80s, early 90s - not when Trump took office.
Crack - well I'm not mocking blacks, I'm mocking those who use threats of isolation to keep individuals from thinking for themselves.
I don't care for speech codes. Free speech is more important the feelings.
FullMoon said...
Uh, sure, one of those well insulated with cotton cords. They tickle.
Uh, no - it left a welt, and woke my mind up to my surroundings at about 3 years old, I think.
Three,eh? Envy your memory. I have seen pics when I was that young, I think. No memories though. Prob earliest right now is going through x-ray machine on visiting day at six or seven at San Quentin and guard asking me about tiny gumball-machine-knife in my borrowed inside suit jacket pocket Mom was pissed. But, hey, I never left home without it,. Stabbed that older playground bully multiple times with it. Good thing blade only eighth inch or so, he laughed, qiut choking me, and let me go.
Memories are made of this....
Drago wrote:
"Yes, a booming economy, lowest unemployment rates for Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, non-college educated people in history/decades, massive investment by businesses in core business operations in the US, hundreds of billions of dollars being repatriated to the US from overseas, decreasing trade deficits, increased exports, US becoming the biggest energy producer in the world (and net exporter), manufacturing jobs being added monthly in the tens of thousands....
My God, its a virtual hell-scape..."
These are hellish times for Inga, indeed. But being a member of the "counter-culture," she bravely struggles though each day, despite the best efforts of the Russians. Drago makes fun, but he just don't know what it is like, waking up every morning in white suburban Wisconsin, only to turn on the TV or NPR and hear that Trump has sent out yet another Tweet which is moving us ever closer to THE HANDMAID'S TALE! She steels herself to do battle here, just like that Chinese dissident nobly stood in front of tanks, to brace herself for the ridicule and scorn that is sure to come from Trumpists when Inga speaks Truth to Power. And she, predictably, gets mowed over. But unlike the Chinese dissident, she picks herself up and shows up the next day to flap her yap. One would have to have a heart of stone not to laugh at Inga's travails.
Dust Bunny Queen said...
“1. How do you determine who has to pay reparations?”
I like when whites ask undereducated blacks questions like this. It shows such good faith. Am I supposed to figure this out on Google, or what? Come on, DBQ, there are viable formulas for figuring this out. There were for others, there are for blacks. But the government pays, not individuals, if that’s what you mean.
“2. How do you determine who GETS paid?”
I’d *start* with official records, family histories, DNA testing and the Mormon project, but that’s just me. America’s a young country, so these aren’t unfathomable mysteries.
“3. Where does the money come from for reparations?”
The U.S. Treasury.
“4. How are we going to prove any of this to determine who, how much etc.”
You’re repeating yourself - not a good sign.
“It was a terrible, horrible, moral sin, and a lingering wrong that continues to echo in today's society. HOWEVER, I don't think there is any monetary way to make it right or correct the past without angering and inflaming a lot of people who had nothing to do with slavery.”
You can’t make it ALL right - but we can repair some of it. And letting blacks know we’re seriously citizens - after 400 years of being here - would help on the football field, I think.
“Sometimes when you attempt to fix things, without thinking through the consequences you create a bigger quagmire.”
I think of the consequences: the end of a family argument, the ability of all Americans to get this timeline in our heads, collectively, so whites don’t sound silly talking about “a long time ago” to people, just arrived yesterday into the modern world, but who’s fractured reality still stretches back to before Europe flourished. Blacks, holding something that says whites, our country, this world, isn’t really cruel, but a victim of it’s own success - part of which consisted of using us for roadkill. There’s LOTS of consequences I can see from this. And nothing to fear, but fear itself.
Not trying - really trying - will always be worse.
One would have to have a heart of stone not to laugh at Inga's travails.
Yes and the complaints come faster the more the jobs increase.
Blogger Michael K said...
You misunderstand, Crack. I want reparations from blacks that have been living high since 1964.
The NAACP has plenty of money. How about ACORN ? Some of that slush fund BLM scoops up.
See, doc has a particular and not uncommon case. I recently learned of an avcestor came after civil war, dug a hole in the side of a mountain and lived there for a year or so while he worked in copper mines, which is another case.
So far as govt paying, avg white, hispanic,asian person seeing black man getting money for free might wonder why am I paying for this bullshit?
FullMoon said...Hafta wonder if crack be singing the blues if he gets a break and becomes rich with his music, or will he recognize it as black priviledge?
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Seems a bit too invested in the identity of adversity to enjoy leaving it.
Into the killing of slave catcher cops, eh?
Yep. A few bucks is going to repair that. Absolutely.
Crack Emcee, have you seen any of the #Walkaway videos?
Here's one. Note this guy isn't telling blacks to become Republicans. He's telling them the Dems are liars and assholes. And he's not doing it in the measured tones of Candace Owens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdj1smZZwLM
There are dozens of similar testimonies on YouTube. Which is why the left saying all of these people must be Russian bots. But of course! They can't be real!
Crack, you da man.
If not for slavery, and rough childhood, you be as successful as Micheal Jackson, Kanye, fifty cent, puff diddy, snoop dog, Oprah, Denzel, Morgan, etc.
I am convinced.
Years ago, Oprah has Denzel on, promoting a movie. She talking about lack of opportunity, Denzel going along with it, seems slightly uncomfortable.
Richest woman in the world, multi-multi millionaire , hahaha!
Impressed with LeBron financing school for under privileged. That is doing something.
I like when whites ask undereducated blacks questions like this.
Undereducated does not equal stupid or dumb. You do not strike me as being either. Some of the smartest people I know barely had a high school education.
The entire idea of reparations is a quandary and a quagmire.
BTW....the US Treasury doesn't make its own money. It comes from the people, taxation, and by selling debt/bonds which have to be paid back (eventually) with interest. That money to pay back the debt, comes from Taxation and more debt sold to pay back the last debt. Never ending cycle of being in hock.
Sebastian said...
“OK, let's do [reparations]. Provided that:
1. The offspring of the African slave sellers pay back the money they got for selling their fellow Africans, with interest.”
The Thomas Sowell argument. Not necessary - only we thought “All Men Are Created Equal” - it was only we who betrayed the American credo, made blacks subhumans to justify it, and then used violence to maintain it.
“2. Blacks pay reparations to the offspring of white Union veterans, higher $$ for casualties, who liberated them.”
Why? Blacks led the charge. No slaves escaping, no abolitionist movement. Like I said, whites need to understand what happened, and that history lesson HAS to be a part of the reparations process. For all of our good.
“3. Not a penny from people who immigrated after 1865. Not a penny to people who immigrated after 1865. Appropriate discounts for people of mixed heritage.”
Bullshit. They participated in it by coming here. The government will handle it, I’m sure. You guys sure do have this image, of individuals paying, stuck in your heads. It’s silly.
“4. Afterward, not a word about slavery in any context other than school history, for any reason. Immediate imprisonment or expulsion for any violations.”
Bullshit, again. The problem with this country is you know more about baseball than slavery and reconstruction - that’s why you have such silly imagers in your head of whites lined up to pay me or something. We should accept the 400 years of history we ignore and tell our stories for real. It wasn’t all misery (Henry “Box” Brown) and it wasn’t all white folks. We’ve got stories to tell, Man. Not hateful ones, but real ones that define us, and not this hollow amalgamation we maintain to avoid reminding ourselves we aren’t always perfect.
No, that one is really sick, in both suggestion and thought. America doesn’t need to avoid slavery any more than Germany ignores the Holocaust. We need to grow up, make it right, and stop fighting over it.
That will be enough.
Full Moon?
Why do you feel you have to use black vernacular when addressing Crack?
Drago, Exiled, Crack---
fuck me, haven't laughed this much since trolling goofy revolutionary.
Would pay in bit-coin to see crack and goofy go at it, if I knew what bit coin was..
BTW, Anybody else get five calls today re APPLE security, or just a Bay Area thing?
Full Moon?
Why do you feel you have to use black vernacular when addressing Crack?
Don't know what vernacular mean, but if it's good, I'm it.
FullMoon said...
“Life experiences build character.”
That isn’t what I thought when I was homeless and my ankle broke.
Inga: "Full Moon?
Why do you feel you have to use black vernacular when addressing Crack?"
Fullmoon is channeling Hillary?
For my part, I ain't no ways "tarred" of all the winning.
It is a one-sided phenomenon. I don't know anyone who was shunned for voting for Obama, nor do I know anyone who would have suspended a friendship over voting for Hillary. I believe that is because Democrats are much more emotional, and cannot stand having their ideas challenged. They believe Republicans are evil, and although many Republicans believe abortion is killing infants, which is objectively more terrible than not baking a cake or detailing kids for a month they are willing to remain friends with those who disagree.
Full Moon doesn’t yet realize that Crack is playing with him, like a cat playing with a mouse.
Next thing you know, Full Moon will start carrying a bottle of hot sauce in his pocket. I hear that gives you street cred with blacks.
FullMoon said...
"They doin' reparations in South Africa. Let's see how that works out and learn from it."
Conservatives are missing the point there: those fools are as obstinate as whites are here - while vastly outnumbered! Racism is a demonstration of functional madness, and whites are as determined as newspaper editors to never change, no matter what happens. Like the Nazis, they brought unheard of cruelty to those they condescend to, but conservative whites, here - who love to claim they free slaves -don't care about that.
I pity the fools.
The Crack Emcee said...
FullMoon said...
“Life experiences build character.”
That isn’t what I thought when I was homeless and my ankle broke.
8/6/18, 5:41 PM
Ha Ha! You survived, right? Your ankle broke? Like a kid saying, Idunno, it just broke.
Own up, man, you broke it.
Fuck the singing, bro, write a book. You startin' to sound like a Lifetime movie.
I join the long list of people happy to see Crack Emcee back. Crack, sometimes you were right and sometimes you were wrong. But you were always interesting.
Crack, you said
And letting blacks know we’re seriously citizens - after 400 years of being here - would help on the football field, I think.
I would have thought electing a black man to the highest office in the land would have shown that, actually. Maybe those who don't feel like citizens just don't want to feel like citizens, as that would mean they have to take some responsibility for their own life choices.
The numbers vary according to who's reporting it, but it seems something like 11 people were killed and 70 others wounded by gunfire this past weekend in Chicago. There are hundreds of murderous assholes in Chicago who need to be jailed or executed right now, and you're trying to tell us that whitey's gotta pay? Are you kidding? This is what happens when you make excuses for criminal behavior rather than punishing it.
No doubt some people here will label this comment and me as racist. Go right ahead. I'm tired of the bullshit.
CE: "I remember you. Sigh. The Age of Unreason by Frank Furedi. Apology accepted"
LOL
CE: Frank Furudi!
Drago: Frank Furudi??!!
CE: Frank Furudi! (as if that explains all!)
CE just went the full Susan Sarandon as "Annie Savoy" in "Bull Durham"
Crash: Wait a second. Who dresses you?
Annie: What?
Crash: Who dresses you? I mean, you think this is a little excessive for the Carolina League?
Annie: “The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.” William Blake.
Crash: William Blake?
Annie: William Blake.
Crash: William Blake?
Annie: William Blake.
Crash: What do you mean “William Blake”?
Annie: I mean “William Blake.”
Crash: Who are you? I mean, do you have a job?
Crack says:
Like the Nazis,...
Uh-oh..
walter said...
"Yes, especially the nation debating the dollar figure required to dispel any suspicion of pretending.
Totally healing, certainly."
You're a fine example of a bad faith actor - the only reason nothing constructive can happen.
CE: "Yeah, slowing down a little. I learned to cook. That’s a biggie."
If you know how to do a great paella you and I could be best friends.
DanTheMan said...
“Hi Crack. Still think killing cops is OK?”
I still have three white friends who are cops, patrolling in my old neighborhood, and all they say is “What about Al Sharpton?!?!” when reminded I didn’t ask any of them to do that, since they were all kinda racist in high school. Their own family members beg me to try to reason with them, but how do you reason with a steroid monster who’s neck is as large as my thighs and, both, carries a gun and is quick to anger?
I keep my distance, thanks.
Inga: "Full Moon doesn’t yet realize that Crack is playing with him, like a cat playing with a mouse"
Like Hillary toying with Trump.....oh. Wait.
Right.
walter said...
"Seems a bit too invested in the identity of adversity to enjoy leaving it."
Being left for a dead a few times will do that to you. Being robbed while high on prescription drugs because your ankle's bone, too.
You guys think life is a TV show, with no blood, or real dead bodies. It's sad, really, if you're trying to relate.
CE: "I keep my distance, thanks."
Evita could not have said it better.
"William Blake"
CE: "You guys think life is a TV show, with no blood, or real dead bodies."
"William Blake"
CE: "Being left for a dead a few times will do that to you."
Enough about Boot Camp.
What about after?
I still have three white friends who are cops, patrolling in my old neighborhood, and all they say is “What about Al Sharpton?!?!” when reminded I didn’t ask any of them to do that, since they were all kinda racist in high school. Their own family members beg me to try to reason with them, but how do you reason with a steroid monster who’s neck is as large as my thighs and, both, carries a gun and is quick to anger?..
hahahahaha!
Who they be? Oakland PD? Tenderloin bullies?
That does it. Sorely disappointed. thought I had a bro could compare whippins with.
Crack, you fulla shit. Now I am beginning to wonder if you ever did have it bad. Three years old memory being beat with the cord kinda sketchy but this takes the cake.
Ya know, I occassionally spend leisure time researching another articulate but goofy guy here, for fun.
May go back and put your injuries, assaults, and mis-treatments in some sort of chronological order, for fun. :-)
Goddamnit, life is good. Expected a boring Mondat. Got Crack going whack, got 'Apple Security" called nine times so far. Troll them every time.
Alarmed:"
Just got home and have a message my computer compromised"
Indian: yes, blaa bla.
Let me get my computer, hold on"
Five min later OK got it, hold on a sec. Uh oh dead battery let me find my charger, hold on.
Ten minutes later, they hang up. fifteen min, another one calls back.
Inga, why crack be usin' Caucasian vernacular? He a Oreo?
exiledonmainstreet said...
“Crack Emcee, have you seen any of the #Walkaway videos?”
Yep. I use it myself.
FullMoon said...
“Years ago, Oprah has Denzel on, promoting a movie. She talking about lack of opportunity, Denzel going along with it, seems slightly uncomfortable.”
I can’t say “Oprah is a con artist” enough to dispel whatever stereotype you’re running with, can I?
Dust Bunny Queen said...
I like when whites ask undereducated blacks questions like this.
Undereducated does not equal stupid or dumb. You do not strike me as being either. Some of the smartest people I know barely had a high school education.
The entire idea of reparations is a quandary and a quagmire.
“Never ending cycle of being in hock.”
A never ending cycle of blacks being despised, with no let-up, is more familiar and comfortable, no?
Jeff said...
I join the long list of people happy to see Crack Emcee back. Crack, sometimes you were right and sometimes you were wrong. But you were always interesting.
Crack, you said
And letting blacks know we’re seriously citizens - after 400 years of being here - would help on the football field, I think.
“I would have thought electing a black man to the highest office in the land would have shown [we’re seriously citizens], actually.”
Nah, I never felt him: He’s from Africa, Hawaii, Kansas, and Indonesia - I’m from South Central, Los Angeles. I can’t see him hanging with Ice Cube. He meant little to me - especially hanging with Oprah - just another film-flam man whites will accept in an attempt to keep me and mine quiet. I don’t blame whites for it. I blame Oprah.
“Maybe those who don't feel like citizens just don't want to feel like citizens, as that would mean they have to take some responsibility for their own life choices.”
You didn’t hear me: most blacks, I know, don’t know things you and I take for granted that Americans should know. America does that. Hell, I wandered most of my high school years because I got in fight with two racists on the first day - got blamed for it - and decided to never go through THAT again.
That’s worth reparations right there. No kid should have to deal with these “Native Son” questions and situations on their own.
“The numbers vary according to who's reporting it, but it seems something like 11 people were killed and 70 others wounded by gunfire this past weekend in Chicago.”
Trapped in ghettos, harboring madness, white people made. It’s a tragedy, partially because THEY take no responsibility. We didn’t redline nobody.
“doubt some people here will label this comment and me as racist. Go right ahead. I'm tired of the bullshit.”
No. You just don’t understand much about race in America - as it’s lived. Not a crime. Not very helpful, though. You might as well be an expert on Martin & Lewis.
The Crack Emcee said...
"I just want reparations, too."
You got Detroit, Baltimore, Philadelphia and South Chicago. What else would you like to be fucking up?
I think I remember you a little more clearly than some of the other folks here, Crack.
Blogger FullMoon said...
The Crack Emcee said...
walter said...
"Seems a bit too invested in the identity of adversity to enjoy leaving it."
Being left for a dead a few times will do that to you. Being robbed while high on prescription drugs because your ankle's bone, too.
You guys think life is a TV show, with no blood, or real dead bodies. It's sad, really, if you're trying to relate.
8/6/18, 6:08 PM
OMG! Five in every four
won't amount to nothin' more
'cept watchin' rats run 'cross the floor
and makin' up songs
'bout bein' poor..
Trouble comin' every day..
Crack, you ever become famous, your life gonna be open book....surely disappointed to find you upper middle class been yankin' all this time.
CE said:
"Being left for a dead a few times will do that to you. Being robbed while high on prescription drugs because your ankle's bone, too."
But there are also whites who have things like that happen to them. There are also whites who come from abusive backgrounds.
I posted the link to the video above because the guy who made it does talk about something specific to blacks - the harsh sentence he received for a first time offense. (Of course, we only know his side of the story.)
Exiled @ 5:30
There are dozens of similar testimonies on YouTube. Which is why the left saying all of these people must be Russian bots. But of course! They can't be real!
The hivemind have their universal excuse built in now. It's the Russians!
Jupiter said...
“You got Detroit, Baltimore, Philadelphia and South Chicago.”
Now that’s a fancy idea: the cities blacks just ended up in by chance - as they escaped the lack of law, in the South, only to discover there’s none at their destination, either - is considered reparations. Incredible. Some whites are so inventive when it comes to depriving us of our heritage in this nation.
And does that include Newark, since blacks got off the train and stayed - thinking it was New York - because they A) had never heard a northern accent before and B) couldn't afford to finish the trip when they - former slaves, remember - discovered their innocent mistake? Please say yes. I'd hate to see them go.
But I will.
OK - this is getting ugly and that's not why I'm here - so I'm gone.
FullMoon said...
“Years ago, Oprah has Denzel on, promoting a movie. She talking about lack of opportunity, Denzel going along with it, seems slightly uncomfortable.”
I can’t say “Oprah is a con artist” enough to dispel whatever stereotype you’re running with, can I?
Nope she is typical of all successful backs. She made it but everyone else to dumb. Glad you agree.
“OK - this is getting ugly and that's not why I'm here - so I'm gone.”
Congratulations Althouse bigots. You ran off the one black person who has commented here in years. Just like the glorious Jim Crow years, right here, right now in this thread. I knew it would happen.
OK - this is getting ugly and that's not why I'm here - so I'm gone.
Eight to five he's back tomorrow. He's a fabulist, a crybaby, and an attention whore. He needs this like he needs air.
But feel free to prove me wrong and stay gone.
Mrs. Magoo steps in to virtue signal and defend poor Crack (who is more than capable of defending himself, but white suburban Inga loves to pose as champion of the nonwhites).
Inga did you miss this? Crack wrote:
The Democrats misled blacks and are wrong on everything else.
He's not on your side, my dear.
And disagreeing with a black man on line is bringing back Jim Crow. Sure, drama queen.
Jesus Christ, does your sanctimonious stupidity have any limits?
Inga said...
“OK - this is getting ugly and that's not why I'm here - so I'm gone.”
Congratulations Althouse bigots. You ran off the one black person who has commented here in years. Just like the glorious Jim Crow years, right here, right now in this thread. I knew it would happen.
8/6/18, 6:46 PM
Of course Inga would not even consider that Crack has to get ready for work. Assumes he on welfare,
Typical feckless cunt.
“He's not on your side, my dear.”
I never said he was on “my side”, you stupid bitch.
I would’ve loved to hear his opinion on many of the subjects presented here by Althouse daily, especially nowadays, but obviously the racists here didn’t.
He gave his opinion plenty on this thread, dimwit. How many comments did he write?
Nobody is allowed to disagree with him or challenge what he says because he's black? Remember that the next time he rips into the Democrats for being the vile phonies you are.
But Mrs. Magoo saw another opportunity to "be brave" - oh, so BRAVE!! - so she can congratulate herself on her own terrific goodness.
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back, darling.
How Inga views herself
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/7cnp6v/how_white_liberals_see_themselves_when_they_post/
The Crack Emcee said...
"... does that include Newark ..."
Oh, Newark, for sure. You are welcome to all the places that used to be productive American cities and are now black-run shitholes. Just stop following us around, OK?
Inga: "I would’ve loved to hear his opinion on many of the subjects presented here by Althouse daily, especially nowadays, but obviously the racists here didn’t"
By the Power of Conservative Pixels!! Crack Emcee will NEVER be able to express himself!!
So let it be written, so let it be done.
Inga: "I never said he was on “my side”, you stupid bitch."
LOL
Nice try at an after-the-fact covering of your tracks for your attack on Althouse.
Very LLR Chuck-like.
Inga said...
“He's not on your side, my dear.”
I never said he was on “my side”, you stupid bitch.
I would’ve loved to hear his opinion on many of the subjects presented here by Althouse daily, especially nowadays, but obviously the racists here didn’t.
8/6/18, 7:05 PM
Oh, my.
Take a break, Fire up Brother Buzz. You will be OK.
exiledonmainstreet: "Mrs. Magoo steps in to virtue signal and defend poor Crack (who is more than capable of defending himself, but white suburban Inga loves to pose as champion of the nonwhites)."
Has Inga proclaimed Crack Emcee incapable of obtaining a picture ID yet?
Inga: "Congratulations Althouse bigots. You ran off the one black person who has commented here in years."
Inga's white lefty pals in action earlier today driving a black woman out of a restaurant:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/06/charlie-kirk-candice-owens-attacked-by-antifa/
Congratulations Inga. You and your white pals should be proud of themselves.
That will teach that black gal that she can't just go and, like, eat breakfast somewhere.
“By the Power of Conservative Pixels!! Crack Emcee will NEVER be able to express himself!!”
Why would he want to? He sounds like he’s tired of this bullshit. He was very patient with those of you who were borderline harassing him regarding his opinions on race relations in America, especially speaking as a black American.
You people really are toxic, bringing it back to the subject matter of this blog.
I won't even bother to link to Inga's little lefty pals smashing up a Marine Corps Recruiting office in Berkeley earlier today.
What's the point in that.
The lefties hate the military. Literally hate them. They call them nazi's, just as Inga did with the majority of military members who voted for Trump.
Just another day in Lefty Land.
Inga: "Why would he want to?"
Oh, so now he has agency again? He can simply decide its not worth it? As opposed to being "run off"?
LOL
Hey Parrot, try and keep your talking points consistent for at least 15 minutes next time!
Did you happen to catch the reporter who was beaned with a water bottle by one of Inga's lefty pals in Portland?
Just because he dared to show up and record the insanity and violence of the left.
I don't think we'll be hearing much about that from LLR Chuck's beloved Li'l Jimmy "peaches" Acosta.
Did you happen to catch the story about the republican in Sacramento who just happens to be a 50 year old Sikh?
Yeah, Inga's pals "caught" him putting up signs for a republican so they did what leftists do: They beat the crap out of him.
On the spot.
"mostly peacefully" though....
@Crack: Appreciate your response. Back at you:
"1. The offspring of the African slave sellers pay back the money they got for selling their fellow Africans, with interest.”
The Thomas Sowell argument. Not necessary - only we thought “All Men Are Created Equal” - it was only we who betrayed the American credo, made blacks subhumans to justify it, and then used violence to maintain it."
Sowell was right. Africans willingly and profitably created slavery. Slavery wasn't just evil because Americans happened to violate their own credo. It was also evil at its point of origin. Reparations must extinguish the sin, not just polish up the credo. The oppression of slavery wasn't just visited upon blacks by whites, but also by fellow blacks: slaves were the offspring of the losers in African struggles. That has to be repaired too.
“2. Blacks pay reparations to the offspring of white Union veterans, higher $$ for casualties, who liberated them.”
Why? Blacks led the charge. No slaves escaping, no abolitionist movement. Like I said, whites need to understand what happened, and that history lesson HAS to be a part of the reparations process. For all of our good."
Blacks didn't lead the charge of the Civil War. The point is that many whites made a substantial down payment on reparations. Needs to be part of the calculation.
“3. Not a penny from people who immigrated after 1865. Not a penny to people who immigrated after 1865. Appropriate discounts for people of mixed heritage.”
Bullshit. They participated in it by coming here. The government will handle it, I’m sure. You guys sure do have this image, of individuals paying, stuck in your heads. It’s silly."
People who arrived after the abolition of slavery didn't participate in maintaining slavery. Reparations are worth considering as compensation for the evil of slavery and thereby to put an end to claims based on slavery. If the idea is that reparations must pay for any black disadvantage of any kind at any time, then it is a non-starter, since someone, black or not, will always be at some disadvantage, and the precedent of "reparations" will lead to endless recriminations, hence make one main purpose of reparations meaningless.
“4. Afterward, not a word about slavery in any context other than school history, for any reason. Immediate imprisonment or expulsion for any violations.
Bullshit, again." Why? The point of reparations would be a deal: you get what you deserve in compensation, but we get a fresh start, being done with claims based on that terrible injustice.
"The problem with this country is you know more about baseball than slavery and reconstruction"
Well, there are a lot of things "the country" doesn't know, but they don' apply to me and they are irrelevant to the merits of reparations.
"that’s why you have such silly imagers in your head of whites lined up to pay me or something."
One way or another, that would have to happen. How else?
"We should accept the 400 years of history we ignore and tell our stories for real. It wasn’t all misery (Henry “Box” Brown) and it wasn’t all white folks. We’ve got stories to tell, Man. Not hateful ones, but real ones that define us, and not this hollow amalgamation we maintain to avoid reminding ourselves we aren’t always perfect."
I strongly agree. Which is why I don't think reparations are actually the best way to resolve a historical sense of injustice.
Reparations can only repair blacks' sense of historical injustice and their injured self-worth if they want them to be repaired. I don't blame them for not wanting it, or hesitating, though I think there is a better way, as many black leaders have pointed out. But once they want that real repair, monetary reparations become irrelevant.
Well..he got his track posted here. No references to reparations or cop killing..and it ain't too shabby..gets kinda anti-plantation around 5 minutes in.
In fact, it would be fun to see a club dj spin it.
Hi Cracky! Welcome backy! I've often thought about you. Frequently in the context of how you needed a PC (I have lots), or were going to LMK what was the deal with Mark Griffin, but mostly in terms of your turbulent tenure here, how you shook it up, how in particular you pwn3d the whitelady hostess. I bet she would have thrown you a fuck on pure guilt...
I had forgotten why you flamed out - figuratively died on the hill of reparations, now I remember.
I like you, mostly, and would like to help you, personally, but collectively, I see three problems with reparations:
1) It wouldn't help you (y'all; it might help YOU, but you don't want reparations just for you, right?). The money would flow in, the money would flow out.
From "Francisco's Money Speech" by Ayn Rand:
“Only the man who does not need it, is fit to inherit wealth–the man who would make his own fortune no matter where he started. If an heir is equal to his money, it serves him; if not, it destroys him. But you look on and you cry that money corrupted him. Did it? Or did he corrupt his money? Do not envy a worthless heir; his wealth is not yours and you would have done no better with it. Do not think that it should have been distributed among you; loading the world with fifty parasites instead of one, would not bring back the dead virtue which was the fortune. Money is a living power that dies without its root. Money will not serve the mind that cannot match it. Is this the reason why you call it evil?"
2. It would buy nothing for the white people, or the government, that provided the money. Those few who would be grateful, are the ones most likely to refuse. You (y'all) would regard it as late, inadequate, meaningless, insulting, and a sign of weakness and more alms to come. And it wouldn't improve you, or help you, as I said.
3. Again a quote, from Youngblood Preacher to the Chief Millitant:
"I don't owe you SHIT, NIGGER!"
My folks came here in 1920. Never owned a slave.
The people who built this country, admittedly to a degree on the backs of some of your ancestors, are no more, are a dying breed. You've left it too late. Justice delayed is justice denied. You got your freedom. I wish it had been more valuable to you. Some people think it more valuable than life, let alone money.
Now what COULD we do for you? I agree something has to be done for you, because you just can't seem to do it for yourselves. But what? Hmm...(to be continued)
Continued...
Free college education. That is, free good education, through college, but most of the damage done is at the earliest stages, and done largely at home. To really help you, the post-60s attacks on your people, everything Moynihan wrote about, would have to be reversed. Probably have to whip anybody who gives you shit for acting white.
Frankly, many black children would have to be evacuated from the living hells of their native environments. Nice non-black people would take them in. And deracinate them. Unfortunately, there is nothing about the form your race has taken to save. You couldn't be black people any more, just people.
I'd be happy to execute everybody who did this to you. Throw that in as a freebie.
Then... Every black man should be promised a job. At his level. (I said MAN. You first. You should be supporting your women anyway, not living off them.) If you can't perform at a given level, your level to be decreased until you are hauling and lifting and pulling and hammering and picking and scrubbing. But always something for you to do. If you're crippled, we'll find something you can do from a wheelchair.
Anything we're giving to Latinos, will be taken away and given to you. We REALLY don't owe them shit. (We probably owe the Indians more, but we've already settled that.) Asians don't want handouts anyway so you're all we really have to worry about.
If you're going to continue to whine about being victimized by the criminal justice system... Let black neighborhoods be policed by blacks, defendants be judged by blacks, the guilty imprisoned or executed by blacks. You think a black cop will let you "I don't wanna get arrested today" or let you charge him and take his weapon, I guess you can find out.
You can have all abortions by black women totally legal and assisted, or we can ban totally, your choice. You want full liability for child support or none, up to you.
Finally... This has a finite duration. Forty years, or three generations, or something like that.
No, finally: if you don't like it here, we'll take your passport and citizenship and arrange to trade it in for citizenship in any other nation on Earth. Or on the Moon, if feasible. Your choice.
...
Anything else you think would help? Legalize drugs? We can talk. But no, giving you each a hundred grand or a million in cash or whatever you have in mind? Fuck that noise.
Just remember, for all the evils of slavery... The planters in 1865 could have pulled an Auschwitz or a Jonestown or whatever and executed you all. Or in the 1850s they could have sold y'all off to Brazil and washed their hands of you. You'd have never been heard from again. They'd have consumed you in the South American systems like chips.
Oh wait, one more thing... We can go to Africa and rip 'em up for defeating you and selling you to us. We can take their shit and give it to you. If you want, we can overthrow their systems and put you in charge. They can even be your slaves if you want. Or we could just kill 'em for you. At the very least we can fund your programs with the loot of their natural resources. You could run that too, if you don't fuck it up.
The people who built this country, admittedly to a degree on the backs of some of your ancestors,
Not true for many of us. My ancestor, who had my name, was born in New York state in 1835, moved as a young man to Illinois and was a farmer all his life. He had 12 children with his wife who was also born in NY state. Their parents came from Ireland about 1810. M}His mother moved to Illinois after her husband died in 1864. Two of her sons died in the Civil War 55th Illinois Volunteer Infantry. William survived Shiloh only to die of a wound in Vicksburg. I have his letters to his wife.
He is buried in Memphis TN where the Gayoso hospital was located. They had to sneak the wounded past the rebels in Vicksburg to get them to the hospital.
I owe Crack nothing but good will.
He might be more concerned about the 71 shootings in Chicago this weekend. All blacks shooting blacks.
Three black teens were arrested for a violent armed carjacking. The DA lowered the charges to unlawful occupation of a vehicle and released them. They will be back committing crime in a week.
In Arizona, they would be three dead teens.
Everybody I know here has a loaded handgun in the house and most have one in the car, like I do.
I hope you haven't fled, Cracky. Some people are being IMHO excessively hostile and rudely so. Of course, you may not like me either, but I'm for you, just not for your plan.
Is there anything anyone can do for you personally? Want a job? I think some people here are CA employers. Need a computer, LMK.
What is interesting to me is that African blacks and West Indian blacks have none of the social pathology we see with Crack.
I interviewed a guy from Nigeria two weeks ago. He has two Engineering degrees.
I asked him if he was Ibo (now called Igbo) and he smiled and said yes. There is some study of Ibos who have a particular skill at math. Many are "quants" in the financial industry.
I see kids from Uganda coming here and joining the US military to get citizenship and GI Bill. They have none of the victim complex that is destroying so many American blacks.
The West Indians also have a legacy of slavery but not the social pathology. I think it is coming from Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and the other race pimps.
Not true for many of us.
Sure, Mike, but like President Trump, I realize that I can sharpen the pencil in such details only so much before nobody is listening. i said, "to a degree."
My overarching point is, giving a mass of blacks, or anybody else, masses of unearned money, would be poison to them, aside from being silly and impossible. What CAN be done that WOULD help, we can discuss. I wish desperately that their lives could be saved and not wasted.
And just so you know, they got some terrific con men types and users coming out of the West Indies and Africa. Not all spotless. But broadly lacking (though capable of emulating, echoing, exploiting) the particular pathologies of American blacks, true.
>>You ran off the one black person who has commented here in years.
How do you know the race of all the posters here?
But you're missing the energy of counterculture, which is an important, invigorating part of America. This is especially so when the main culture is very repressed and censorious, and if you won't begin to try to understand that, then you know something is happening, but you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Frederson?. - Althouse
I was going to write a snarky reply to him and here you opened a can of whoop ass on him already.
Michael K said...
"What is interesting to me is that African blacks and West Indian blacks have none of the social pathology we see with Crack."
So now I've got a pathology - great. I lost my shirt helping an African dude one time. Thought he was all innocent and lost and he ripped me off for $100.00.
You guys trip too hard - and have no idea what creates this "pathology" - so no idea how to stop it.
I tell you, and you cower, bring snark, or lie. Rarely honesty. And I'm expected to smile through it. Instead of being like Glenn Reynolds and threatening to run people down with my car, right?
I get punished for that.
Being human.
You guys trip too hard - and have no idea what creates this "pathology" - so no idea how to stop it.
I have a pretty good idea. You were sounding reasonable until you brought up that old idiocy of "Reparations."
Michael K,
Take it up with The Man. Explain why he's wrong. Please.
Crack, I think he said something about "Content of our Character, not the color of our skin."
Affirmative Action is all the reparations you will get and, if that is not enough, other countries would welcome you.
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Michael K said...
"Crack, I think he said something about "Content of our Character, not the color of our skin.""
Michael, the man lived for 42 years - and said much more than that - did you ever bother to read or hear anything else? You're like those Democrats who can only see the FOX channel, in a sea of liberal media, and declares it holds all the power.
It's a self-evident lie.
No love, Crack? No hate even? No comment at all?
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