August 26, 2018

Picnic Point, this morning in the mist.

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About 15 minutes later, with a little more sun and from a somewhat more distant vantage point, it crispened up to this.

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Anyway, this is a "café" post, so talk about anything you want. Don't limit yourself to the topic of the clarity of the view of Picnic Point from various locations on the Lake Mendota trail.

70 comments:

gilbar said...

i miss pick A nick baskets, full of goodies. The stupid park service, with their stupid: don't feed the bears propaganda makes me SO MAD. Without pick a nick baskets full of goodies; the only tasty things left to snack on are campers, and a LOT of them are WAY TOO peppery

Rob said...

Quite a spin. After John McCain uninvited Trump from his funeral, the Times and those it chooses to quote praise McCain for bringing people together and lambaste Trump for not joining in the tributes.

n said...

St Crispin’s Day Speech Shakespeare Henry V. Kenneth Branagh. I memorize bible verses. My hubby memorizes great speeches

Ralph L said...

Picnic Point perched upon pier posts.

William said...

People in the media can breathe a huge sigh of relief. The shooter turns out to be a white, non immigrant male. This shooting is so typical of white, native born born males. I just hope it doesn't turn out that he supported Bernie like that last homicidal white. Still, this looks promising.

rcocean said...

Looks like the MSM Is in full "John McCain - the greatest man ever" mode. CNN is running non-stop McCain.

I wonder how many "commoners" give a damn.

rcocean said...

And great photos. A nice contrast.

Mike Sylwester said...

Yesterday I watched the 2017 movie Rebel in the Rye on cable television. The movie is a dramatized biography of J. D. Salinger, author of the novel Catcher in the Rye, which was published in 1951.

The movie's story begins in about 1939, when Salinger was about 20 years old. After he had graduated from high school, he had bounced around among schools and jobs for a couple years. Then he decided to become a writer and to study English at Columbia University. Although his father discouraged Salinger's plan, he did agree to pay for the university education.

The movie really gets going as Salinger begins to attend a fiction-writing course taught by a professor, Whit Burnett, a real person played by the actor Kevin Spacey. Salinger's contrary attitude annoys Burnett for a while, but soon soon Salinger and the professor develop a productive relationship. Salinger respects Burnett's advice and guidance about how to become a professional writer.

Spacey plays Burnett superbly and continues to appear in the story long after Salinger has left Columbia University.

The most interesting aspect for me was that Salinger had developed the novel's Holden Caulfield character already by 1941. The New Yorker was about to publish a short story featuring that character in December 1941. However, because of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, the magazine decided to not publish Salinger's story, because the story and its main character suddenly seemed too frivolous.

Salinger immediately volunteered for the US Army and served in combat until almost the end of the war. He participated in the D-Day invasion and helped liberate a concentration camp.

Although he continued to write fiction while serving in the Army, he did not finish any of his writing projects. After the war he did not write at all for about five years. Instead, he studied and practiced Zen Buddhism.

Toward the end of the 1940s, Salinger returned to New York City and re-established contact with Burnett. Gradually, Burnett persuaded Salinger to resume writing about the Holden Caulfield character and to enlarge the work from a short story to a novel.

Eventually Salinger followed Burnett's advice, and the novel was published and became a huge success. Later, however, Salinger essentially dumped Burnett as a friend and helped only minimally when Burnett needed help in his own publishing efforts.

Salinger was a jerk who had only one good idea for a book in his entire life.

Narayanan said...

PTSD is much in discussions about recent war vets

I'm Curious about awareness during Vietnam war ... Did they get help of any sort?

Mike Sylwester said...

Last week I finished watching the dramatic series Will about William Shakespeare's early years in London. The series comprises ten one-hour episodes. The series was shown initially on the TNT cable TV channel.

I became aware of the series late and began to watch it on-demand. After I had watched six episodes, however, TNT removed the entire series from on-demand availability. Later I discovered the entire series on TNT's internet site.

https://www.tntdrama.com/shows/will

Thus I was able to finish watching the series through the tenth episode last week.

The series is superb, and I recommend it highly. The story, acting, settings, costumes and cinematography all are superb.

The screenplay was written by Craig Pearce, who wrote many scripts for Baz Luhrman’s movies (e.g Strictly Ballroom, Moulin Rouge, The Great Gatsby). At the end of each episode, Pearce comments on the episode for about five minutes.

I myself do not think that William Shakespeare really wrote the plays, but I exercised my suspension of belief and enjoyed the series anyway, as if he had written the plays.

The series revolves largely around the English government's persecution of the Roman Catholic Church. Shakespeare's family was Catholic. Although he himself was minimally devout, he finds himself drawn into the religious struggle because he has a cousin who is a leader of the Catholic underground.

I thought the story was quite plausible.

The series villain is Richard Topcliffe (a really historical person), who uses torture in his search for secret Catholics, especially for Shakespeare’s cousin.

The series ends with the Globe Theater's production of the play Richard III in about 1593, when Shakespeare was about 29 years old.

I think that the series ended there simply because the funding was terminated. It's obvious that the series cost a huge amount of money to produce. Sad.

David53 said...

"I'm Curious about awareness during Vietnam war ... Did they get help of any sort?"

Not that I remember, some of the old docs called it shell shock. It was just something you lived with. I don't remember any of my old buddies getting special treatment but I suppose some did. Different times.

Mike Sylwester said...

Song lyrics by Phyllis Molinary (1937 - 2011)
-----

Here's to Life

No complaints
And no regrets --
I still believe in chasing dreams
And placing bets.

But I have learned
That all you give
Is all you get --
So give it all you've got.

I had my share;
I drank my fill;
And even though I'm satisfied,
I'm hungry still.

To see what's
Down another road,
Beyond the hill --
And do it all again.

So here's to life
And every joy it brings!
So here's to life --
To dreamers and their dreams!

Funny how the time just flies,
How love can go
From warm hellos
To sad goodbyes --

And leave you
With the memories
You've memorized
To keep your winters warm.

For there's no
"Yes" in "yesterday",
And who knows what tomorrow brings
Or takes away?

As long as I'm still in the game,
I want to play --
For laughs,
For life,
For love.

May all your storms be weathered,
And all that's good get better!

Here's to life!
Here's to love!
Here's to you!
-----

Sung by Shirley Horn

Ralph L said...

Did they get help of any sort?
According to Hollywood, most of them came back hooked on drugs or half crazy and became either homicidal or homeless.

PTSD was given its name for them.

narciso said...

John Rambo, stringfellow Hawke, in airwolf, those were just some of the notable examples, magnum was one of the first shows that put Vietnam vets in a,positive life, except for officers like colonel buck Greene, an early version of the deep state.

Ralph L said...

Mike Sylwester, TNT marks it as season 1, so maybe there will be more. I'll see if I can get it onto my Roku.

PBS ran several hours of a WS biography by English historian Mike Wood that also brought out the Catholic v. Protestant aspect. He visited the historical sites in Stratford and an old cellar in London.

Mike Sylwester said...

Attorney for Michael Cohen Now Reverses Claims on Trump Knowledge of any Russian Event.

Michael Cohen does not know anything about any collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

If Lanny Davis continued to declare that Cohen indeed did know something, then Cohen still might be charged for committing perjury in his previous testimony to Congress.

There will no no more talk by Lanny Davis that Michael Cohen knows anything about any Trump-Russia collusion.

Joan said...

"crispened"? Is that a word now?

narciso said...

It's perfectly cromulent,

There would be an evidence trail, you note how the latest judicial watch haul.

Mark said...

A jury can make judgments only on the evidence presented to it. If one side refuses to contest or rebut the evidence presented, what are they to think?

Pope: 'I will not say a single word' on Vigano's allegations of cover-up

“I read the statement this morning, and I must tell you sincerely that, I must say this, to you and all those who are interested: Read the statement carefully and make your own judgment,” he answered. “I will not say a single word on this.”

Speaking aboard the papal plane from Dublin to Rome Aug. 26, Francis said he believes in the “journalistic capacity to draw your own conclusions,” calling it an “act of faith.”

“When some time passes and you have drawn your conclusions, I may speak. But I would like your professional maturity to do the work for you. It will be good for you,” he told members of the press.

Asked in a follow up question when he first learned about the abuse allegations against McCarrick, Pope Francis responded, “This is part of the statement. Study it and then I will say.”

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Mark said...

And now for something completely different -- the Larch.

Also, I got a mosquito bite on the bottom of my foot while at the pool. Tough place to scratch. For the last several years, mosquitos have not bothered me. But more recently, they must be biting (or my resistance to the itch is wearing off) because I've been getting them in really annoying places, like the bottom of the foot or on a finger.

Chuck said...

Althouse, the quality of many of the McCain-related comments on your pages is really remarkable.

While even the Fox News Channel is honoring McCain's memory, your commentariat shows where the hard core Trumpists are at.

McCain Derangement Syndrome.

Mark said...

How does it honor McCain to make one's comment about Trump?

Using a dead guy as a tool to push one's obsessions seems fairly disrespectful to most decent folks.

narciso said...

Chuck would rather that trumps heart be plucked out like Prometheus, for the crime of beating hillary.

Mark said...

Interesting that a young Lucille Ball was in film noir, and song and dance, before she made it big in comedy.

madAsHell said...

Wooden ships on the water!!

narciso said...

Are you watching on the movies channel? They have an interesting collection of noir, I think they can't carry off noir effectively (ie:gangster squad) because they can't tell the difference.

narciso said...

They were showing sunset boulevard, which ive seen a couple of times, for the snappy dialogue, as well some of the ridiculous plot points.

narciso said...

Among the players starting was a young jack Webb some dozen years before dragnet.

narciso said...

I also found out the back story about William Powell, Myrna loy jean Harlow and Carol Lombard and Clark gable (you needed a flow chart to track the relationship between 1931 and 1937)

narciso said...

Yes, that was a fascinating yeleplay, that the put on.

narciso said...

Teleplay, tnt, it seems to key ofc Astor theory that the plays were primarily coded political allegories.

walter said...
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walter said...

Chuck,
Your butthurt just doesn't work on Althouse the way you want it to.
Hey..you still have Kasich..whose dad worked for the post orifice, btw.

Lewis Wetzel said...

"Blogger narciso said...

Among the players starting was a young jack Webb some dozen years before dragnet."

Yep, that was amazing. Webb played a proto-hippy. Frail, and as skinny as a rail.

Ralph L said...

My disgust with McCain goes back to the abomination called McCain-Feingold, but I still voted for him in 2008, mostly because of his opponent, partly Palin.

BudBrown said...

Needs maybe a couple of cotton mouths lounging by the shore, a couple of gators lurking
in the distance and definitely some cypress trees. Some Johnny Weissmuller background
yodeling probably wouldn't hurt.

rcommal said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flwfFNsr_Zs

Neil Simon died, too, as did Robin Leach, this weekend, and let's not forget that Aretha's been dead leas than just a bit more a week ago.

I'm thinkin': WTF? Perhaps it's time.

Big Mike said...

@Chuck, Glenn Reynolds has already responded to you. Contrasting the fawning coverage of McCain the deceased with McCain the 2008 presidential candidate, he writes that “it’s as if they think the only good Republican is a dead Republican.” Surprised you haven’t picked up on that, Mr. “life long Republican.”

BUMBLE BEE said...

Any ideas about the shooting gamer's "significant medical needs"?

BUMBLE BEE said...

Sainthood ain't always pretty...

http://takimag.com/article/the-week-that-perished/#axzz5OaxmorI7

McCain's ain't either.

stevew said...

As time passes the lauding of McCain crispened on his military service.

-sw

Breezy said...

How strange McCain and Kennedy died of the same cancer nine years apart to the day.

Humperdink said...

@Chuck. Yep those of us on the Althouse commentariat who thinks McCain's behavior as a politician were despicable are the only ones who hold that view. The only ones (sarc alert).

But then again, he was a Life Long Republican. *cough

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Tommy Duncan said...

"Althouse, the quality of many of the McCain-related comments on your pages is really remarkable."

Chuck throws out a comment intended to irritate others, and yet often wonders why no one likes him.

rhhardin said...

Bathed by the mist
http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/samuel_coleridge/poems/7136

tim in vermont said...

McCain Derangement Syndrome.

A good start to demonstrate your case would be to show those of us who think he sold out the Arizona voters in order to curry favor with Democrats who, as has been pointed out, think that the only good Republican is a dead Republican, show us that we are wrong.

I gave McCain more than pocket money when he ran against Obama, and the punishment for that deed is to be bombarded by the RNC badgering me for money forever, but even then, he was making the unforced error of thinking that the press would treat him well if he sucked up to their ideology. He went to his grave flipping off the Republican base. You approve. Good luck with whatever party you form, or with your membership in the Democrats. Come on, Chuck, you know they are the party of the rich now, get over it and join! They won’t take away your housekeeper and gardener!

Hagar said...

The term "shell shock" goes back to WWI when the troops were stuck in trench warfare and just had to huddle in the trenches while the artillery fire rained down on them preparatory to an enemy attack or just intermittently as part of the daily routine.
In WWII, it became "battle fatigue," and for the decades after until the Viet Nam war, most any crime committed by a male was headlined with "Crazed Ex-GI ..."

Hagar said...

The media are just taking the opportunity to gloat over all the damage McCain caused to the Republican Party.

tim in vermont said...

I myself do not think that William Shakespeare really wrote the plays

Oh come on. You should read Bill Bryson’s work on Shakespeare. He had the education to write the plays, it’s a matter of record. He was drilled in rhetoric six days a week. He was drilled in writing the way Mozart was drilled in music. The source material for many of his plays was public, his historical plays were based on The Chronicles, a history of England and English kings, and if you watch them in succession, you can see them develop from recounting of history to high art. Henry V had that great St Crispin’s Day speech, Richard III went from history to a great art. There is no reason to think that he didn’t write those plays.

The basis seems to be that somebody found some of his poems and wanted to publish them, but there was a law at that time that a book for sale had to have a minimum number of pages, so they padded out the book with the work of that other guy that people always claim wrote the plays.

tim in vermont said...

By “work” I refer to a small little book, I don’t know why I used “work” It was an entertaining read.

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Mike Sylwester said...

Tim in Vermont at 7:07 AM
Oh come on. You should read Bill Bryson’s work on Shakespeare.

I was convinced by Joe Sobran's excellent book Alias Shakespeare, which I recommend to you.

todd galle said...

Hagar is right, it was known and a treatment regimen was established in WW1. See;
https://www.kcl.ac.uk/kcmhr/publications/assetfiles/historical/Jones2007-shellshockwwipie.pdf

Hagar said...

According to the headlines, McCain "invited" ex-presidents Bush and Obama to give eulogies at his funeral and "banned" Trump from even attending.

In the history of the United States, has anyone else had the ego to let anything this gauche be publicly known about his wishes for his funeral?

Chuck said...

Big Mike said...
@Chuck, Glenn Reynolds has already responded to you. Contrasting the fawning coverage of McCain the deceased with McCain the 2008 presidential candidate, he writes that “it’s as if they think the only good Republican is a dead Republican.” Surprised you haven’t picked up on that, Mr. “life long Republican.”



THAT IS SUCH BULLSHIT, BIG MIKE! That's all-caps in the form of screaming, because I really want to rub this in: My first (and one of my very few) comment on the passing of John McCain, in the Althouse post that announced his death, was that I remarked that in 2008, John McCain was the one true moderate, bipartisan-working candidate at a time when American politics was beginning to sink more deeply into partisan tribalism. McCain was a moderate, with real skills in moving bipartisan legislation, in a statesmanlike way. And Barack Obama, apart from being a sort of fictional biracial dream of a personal story, was in fact a rudimentary left-wing Democrat activist. With ZERO bipartisan record and virtually no record of hard legislative achievement.

And before that, I have written many times that the national press loved McCain as long as he was not seriously challenging any Democrats.

I know all of that. You aren't telling me anything new, Big Mike. You haven't informed me of anything. And you haven't touched the basic issue in which the Althouse commentariat is now insulting McCain.

I'll tell you this, Big Mike. Whether they were captured or not, I prefer my heroes to have actually fought in the wars that confronted their generation. And not to have claimed "heel spurs."

Humperdink said...

"I prefer my heroes to have actually fought in the wars that confronted their generation. And not to have claimed "heel spurs."

I prefer my heroes not to be chameleons.

BTW, the only Maverick I have seen in recent memory current resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Andrew said...

"While even the Fox News Channel is honoring McCain's memory, your commentariat shows where the hard core Trumpists are at."

What bothers me is how contrived it all is. Everything the media does is with an attitude of contempt for Trump and his voters. Dialing the adulation of McCain up to 11 is very easy to see through.

As usual, I don't think Trump minds. When the media is obsessed with a topic and making snide anti-Trump comments, it allows Trump to get big things done under the radar.

narciso said...

And yet McCain said 'we have nothing to fear from Barack Obama, that was far from true. At the time, I realize he had thrown the match, leaving p alin to carry the burden, she is still more civil than I would ever be.

Humperdink said...

Has anyone noticed that McCain's former campaign aides's careers have taken off? On MSNBC.

narciso said...

Exiled to the four o clock, isn't really taking off, for Wallace, Schmidt they don't even give a show has like the fifth python, appearing on primary days.

Humperdink said...

"Exiled to the four o clock, isn't really taking off ..."

I disagree. Having a national television show, as opposed to be relegated to oblivion (where they belong), could be viewed as a large plus. I'll take a 4 o'clock show anytime.

narciso said...

Agreed, isnt there a nearby missile silo, there was an amusing scroll with thd latest matter with the enquired she worked for couric then Jeb then Company spokesman, and a bang up job as white house communications director.

Ralph L said...

McCain was a moderate, with real skills in moving bipartisan legislation, in a statesmanlike way.

If McCain-Feingold is your idea of moderate, bipartisan legislation, you deserve all the abuse you get in these comments.

Big Mike said...

I'll tell you this, Big Mike. Whether they were captured or not, I prefer my heroes to have actually fought in the wars that confronted their generation. And not to have claimed "heel spurs."

And are you a Vietnam or a Vietnam era veteran? I am, and I have no complaints about people who found a legitimate way out. Stupid people who’ve never had bone spurs laugh about it, but I had them a couple decades ago and I do not see how a person with bone spurs could have completed Basic Combat Training while suffering from them. It was a thoroughly fucked up war badly run by incompetent admirals, generals and, especially, politicians.

I don’t regard John McCain as a moderate bi-partisan. I regard him as a fool who added a nominally Republican vote to Democrat legislation. In 2008 he proved beyond reasonable doubt that he should never have run for President given his incompetence with respect to economics. And Harry Reid rolled him like a beach ball on a steep dune. He was Peter Principled as a senator and should have known his limits.

BTW, don’t shout. It makes you look even more stupid than your commrnts do.

Humperdink said...

"On Saturday, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) announced his plans to have the Russell Senate Office Building renamed after Senator John McCain (R-AZ), who passed away on Saturday."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/35045/democratic-sen-chuck-schumer-introduce-resolution-frank-camp

Apparently the feds choose not to name the weather vanes scattered throughout the capitol.

Hagar said...

John McCain tried very hard to live up to the reputation of his father and grandfather while being in no way equipped to do so.

rcommal said...

I prefer my heroes not to be chameleons.

BTW, the only Maverick I have seen in recent memory current resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.


That ^ there is a very interesting juxtaposition of two sentences. Telling, even.

rcommal said...

John McCain tried very hard to live up to the reputation of his father and grandfather while being in no way equipped to do so.

That^there is a very interesting sentence. Telling, even.