August 24, 2018

Asked about NFL players taking a knee during the national anthem, Beto O'Rourke (Ted Cruz's challenger) launches into sustained grand oratory.



This video has gone viral, as NBC news says:
The video of his response, posted by the news site NowThis, has since garnered 11 million views and more than 300,000 shares on Facebook as of Thursday morning.
This video isn't just getting views, it's garnering views. So put that in your garner — a storehouse for corn — and keep it.

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gilbar said...

they're using secret you tube databases to list the locations and account names of anyone who watches this (or any video), Adding names to the list == garnering them

CJ said...

Robert O’Rourke. The guys name is Robert Francis O’Rourke. Son of Patrick.

He signed “Robert ORourke” on his DUI arrest.

Brown face is a bad look.

The Godfather said...

He does a good job of explaining why they are protesting, but he doesn't answer the question: Isn't doing this during the playing of the National Anthem disrespectful? The answer is, Yes, it's disrespectful, and it's intended to be.

Ralph L said...

We all know what they used to use corn cobs for. I'm not a fan of Cruz, but that's where Beta will end up.

gilbar said...

No, I don’t think it’s disrespectful,” O’Rourke responded, which drew applause from the audience.
"Reasonable people can disagree on this issue. Let’s begin there. And it makes them no less American to come down on a different conclusion on this issue,


Good To Know that THIS is an issue that Reasonable people can disagree. Unlike, say: Global Warming
AND! Showing disrespect and contempt America (and its Flag) makes you NO LESS AMERICAN

The Crack Emcee said...

White folks: You can spot the good ones.

The bad ones are (almost) everyone else.

Anonymous said...

Awww...soooo sweet........... maybe even saccharine.


Shouting Thomas said...

So, he kissed black ass like crazy and pledged allegiance to 1968 forever. That's become idiot bullshit.

The problem with the players taking a knee isn't that it's disrespectful. It's stupid.

The Black Lives Matter thing failed each time it tried to illustrate its cause with a demonstration case. The police didn't kill those black men randomly. They killed criminals in the commission of crimes or assaults on police.

BLM was a propaganda offensive funded and staffed by Obama and Holder to inflame the black community and get out the vote.

The black communities' preference for non-enforcement of the law in their communities is stupid tribalism. I lived through the results of conceding the streets to black gangs in Brooklyn during the crack epidemic. It was hell.

If blacks want non-enforcement of the law in their communities, let them have it. Let them kill one another with impunity. It's a damned stupid choice. Low IQ and tribal loyalty keeps the brutality going.

Ann Althouse said...

It would be so easy to use this video as the basis for a comedy sketch. He's asked a question, then launches into oratory about things that happened decades ago and by the time he gets to bringing it in for a landing, you don't really remember the question.

I wonder how this will work in a debate, especially a debate with Ted Cruz, who's got his own wacko rhetorical stylings.

MikeR said...

Pretty incoherent, and misses the point. Everyone agrees that protests are nice and American. Still, if you come and spit in my face as a protest, don't be surprised if I don't like you.
I don't exactly know why the questioner, or O'Rourke, or a lot of other people, think this has anything to do with the military. The National Anthem is property of all Americans who love their country. These players are standing up and saying, because of our history we can't love our country and we want you to know it. Or at least, you can't ask us to show that love because of our history and our situation. At a time set aside during the game to show respect for the United States, they are showing that they would rather make their point.
All fine and very American. The result is that the rest of us see them as people who don't share our values, and actually don't like us either. Then they're not my team.
"This country was never that great." That attitude is coming out in the open, and a lot of Americans are taking note.

Darrell said...

It was a set-up question that he was expecting. A staffer of his probably asked it. And he had the audience packed with Comrades--probably from his Cell.

rhhardin said...

Great, add another ritual to the flag ritual instead of saying they're both rituals that don't matter in the slightest.

clint said...

This will do wonders for O'Rourke's nationwide fundraising, but it's hard to see how it will play well statewide in Texas.

The Crack Emcee said...

Ann Althouse said...

"I wonder how this will work in a debate, especially a debate with Ted Cruz, who's got his own wacko rhetorical stylings."

Rick Perry once gave a great speech on race, and whites rejected him afterwards, so who knows what they'll think in a debate?

They give each other points for how closely they approximate SS Officers in attitude, so it's hard to tell, if you're a rational person observing them.

Henry said...

That's a really impressive summation.

It's interesting to see the counter attack is either to spiral off into semantics or spray out the counterfactuals.

Tank said...

I'd say that both Darrell and ST have nailed it.

The Black people in Chicago are getting the non-enforcement some seem to want. The attitude, according to friends I know who lived there, was "it's just Blacks killing Blacks," i.e. it's not a problem that needs addressing until they start killing us. Every few months there's a "big weekend" and everyone pays attention for a few days, then it goes back to "normal."

Birkel said...

I thought the answer he gave (to the pre-planted question) was precisely the one he wanted to give. It’s a clever ploy from the guy who thinks he will lock up the Latino vote to increase black turnout, too.

The problem, I believe, is that all across Texas for the rest of the fall, crowds of people will stand for the Anthem and see it as a unifying experience.

Friday. Night. Lights.

Shouting Thomas said...

They give each other points for how closely they approximate SS Officers in attitude, so it's hard to tell, if you're a rational person observing them.

I'll have to ask a rational person, since Crack isn't one.

Now, we devolve into Crack's endless soliloquy as the Voice of Blacks.

That's part of the stupidity I noted above, Crack. It's the Big Man shit, the pimp shit, the racism huckster shit, the professionally black scam.

You're the problem.

rhhardin said...

Perhaps the whole thing can be eliminated by adding yet more rituals.

Add a #MeToo ritual, perhaps a topless cheerleader action.

Darrell said...

Beto's next propaganda tape might go a little like this---

Beto: America was never that great, if you think about it.

Audience: Hoot, Hoot, Hoot [wild applause] [People dancing in aisles] Beto! Beto! Beto!

Dan from Madison said...

Darrell at 7.32 am nailed it with the set-up part.

rhhardin said...

Stand topless for the anthem.

tim maguire said...

In the new America, protesting liberty, human rights, and the idea that the government serves the people is...American. Those people who believe in the values of the Enlightenment are so passe. Reactionary alt-right wingnuts.

Anne in Rockwall, TX said...

Corn in Texas is lousy. Flavorless and tough.

I miss the sweet corn of the Midwest. White, small kerneled and sweet as all get out.

Actually, I miss a lot of vegetable and fruit flavors. Tomatoes have no flavor or aroma, strawberries and peaches are even worse. Even if I had a place to grow my own, I would need to find seeds from 20 year old plants.

We have managed to breed vegetables and fruit to resist drought, insects and disease, but we bred out the flavor. Picking them early and ripening them with gas makes it even worse.

Kind of like how we breed our younger generations. Robert Francis O'Rourke is the product of participation trophies.

rhhardin said...

#KidsInCages, have mimes to the glass box bit.

sean said...

I felt like Prof. Althouse, waiting for him to answer the question. I guess this technique of irrelevant oratory works with the general public, or people wouldn't use it. It doesn't work in the courtroom, and it didn't work at my father's (or my) dinner table.

Henry said...

In the new America, protesting liberty, human rights, and the idea that the government serves the people is...American.

The basis of the protest is the opposite of that, of course.

Shouting Thomas said...

@tim

I haven't watched the NFL in years. So, I don't give a shit what the players do.

I stopped watching football for a variety of reasons. Too many teams, players and games. Sitting on my ass on a nice Sunday when I could be outdoors gardening or riding my bike would be a silly choice.

Let the players do what they want. They're behaving stupidly. They're entitled to do that.

Bad Lieutenant said...


rhhardin said...
Great, add another ritual to the flag ritual instead of saying they're both rituals that don't matter in the slightest.

8/24/18, 7:34 AM


It's curious for a man of your highfalutin tastes in reading material to reject the value of ritual. But then on a thread yesterday, you as good as admitted that you are sometimes consciously BSing, so who knows what you really think?

stevew said...

Playing the anthem at sporting events originated as a nice gesture but long ago became a silly custom. Adding protests to this silly custom makes it more so and gets people into even sillier, if that is possible, arguments about how serious it all is. Kinda feels like i've been dropped into a Gilbert & Sullivan opera.

-sw

rhhardin said...

If the whole game was choreographed they could put women on the teams.

Mid-Life Lawyer said...

That was a skillful oration. The problem is that he is equating the very real heroes of the civil rights movement, who were putting their lives on the line to protest real problems with a protest by a small and very exclusive, talented group of individuals who are protesting an issue which is, at best, way overblown and possibly even nonexistent when examined relative to the number of interactions that criminal suspects have with police, regardless of their skin tones. Most of the social justice movement today is comprised of individuals who are trying to pretend to be like the real heroes of the civil rights movement of the fifties and sixties and don't have any real issues to protest but who want to be viewed as heroes, nonetheless. As the anthem protest has evolved, it now has a large measure of anti-Trump thrown in. Most revealing throughout has been the inability of the players to describe what it is they are even protesting. Beto did a good job putting a point on it, although the players by and large never have, and Beto's well executed monologue appeals to the small minority of Democrat partisans who will swallow just about anything just as Trump's more extreme orations bring out the roars in his crowds.

robother said...

"The bad ones are (almost) everyone else."

Yeah, so much for "reasonable people can disagree on this issue." This is what renders Beto's answer civility bullshit. He knows he's gat a base of Democrat voters that think like Crack Emcee, but will give him a pass because they know he's just trying to con "moderate" white voters into voting for him. All his base cares about is his short answer.

rhhardin said...

The value of ritual is to get the crowd to stop milling around and pay attention so the game can start. Self-appointed enforcers in the crowd do the work. That's its value. It's the same deal with bible reading and flag pledge starting the school day.

Flag ritual is a military training thing, the opposite of what you want in civilians.

Civilian cynicism guarantees freedom. Who wants me to shut up and stand at attention and why.

Wouldn't work in the military.

rehajm said...

Definitely will help those leftie candidates in deep blue districts, but to unseat Ted Cruz?

rhhardin said...

Andy Rooney: military vets already got what they deserve. A free country.

Ralph L said...

Who wants me to shut up and stand at attention and why.

You forgot the question mark at the end. /jk

jaydub said...

"White folks: You can spot the good ones" said the racial scam artist for no particular reason.

Stupid bigot.

The Crack Emcee said...

robother said...

"All his base cares about is his short answer."

You guys act like there's another one - that one, only white supremacists see, where defying blacks our rights is noble - as they tacitly avoid mentioning everything Beto did.

He knew that shit off the top of his head. That's an American.

traditionalguy said...

the The NFL has every right to shame traditional Americans for making a silly show of patriotism. Go ahead. Make my day.

The Crack Emcee said...

jaydub said...

"Stupid bigot."

Oooh, I'm mortally wounded, by someone who doesn't like blacks to be liked. What on Earth will I do?

The Crack Emcee said...

Mid-Life Lawyer said...

"The problem is that he is equating the very real heroes of the civil rights movement,...with a protest by a small and very exclusive, talented group of individuals.."

You missed Harry Belefonte, Sammy Davis Jr., Cassius Clay, and others before? How?

Maybe it's whites who can't see the error of their ways - that's happened before - many times, over centuries.

Shouting Thomas said...

You keep mentioning that your life is shit, Crack.

This black racism hustler routine isn't working out so well for you, huh?

Has the thought ever entered your mind that you're wasting your time and energy on a failed strategy?

My life is not, nor has it ever been shit. I always had a job skill that didn't require scamming people. Give it a try.

Begging and lecturing whites doesn't seem to be leading to wealth or happiness for you.

Now, it's off to play music and garden. Profitable ways to spend my time.

It's a complete waste of time trying to lead you away from the disastrous, personally destructive path you've chosen. You're entitled to that, too.

walter said...

The Crack Emcee said...
White folks: You can spot the good ones.
The bad ones are (almost) everyone else.
--
Crazy "Uncle Crack" mentoring the neighbor kids who run away giggling.

The Crack Emcee said...

traditionalguy said...

"the The NFL has every right to shame traditional Americans for making a silly show of patriotism. Go ahead. Make my day."

Because of their obvious and historically documented mental problems, white people probably shouldn't be allowed to frame anything in history. They just can't handle it.

Birkel said...
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Birkel said...

I would like to see the Venn Diagram that describes how dislike of one person ends up being dislike of a whole group in the mind of the disliked person.

rhhardin said...

only white supremacists see

I'd be interested in your take on Derbyshire's analysis of what gets called white supremacy, only one tiny category of which seems to involve ill will

http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/RadioDerb/2016-12-02.html

scroll down to item 05.

tim maguire said...

Shouting Thomas said...
@tim

I haven't watched the NFL in years. So, I don't give a shit what the players do.

I stopped watching football for a variety of reasons. Too many teams, players and games. Sitting on my ass on a nice Sunday when I could be outdoors gardening or riding my bike would be a silly choice.

Let the players do what they want. They're behaving stupidly. They're entitled to do that.


I wasn't thinking of you when I posted. Not sure why you thought I was. As for "they're entitled to do that," did anybody say otherwise? Ever? Of course they're entitled to do that, and I and anyone else is entitled to have a reaction to it.

iowan2 said...

How about all the $millions these NFL players spent in the off season supporting their cause? Pushing their solution?

Yea, I didn't see them get off their rich asses and do anything of substance either.

But that's the left. Style over substance

The players have the idea that the stadium they don't own, is somehow theirs to use as want.

I cant think of another job in the world that will let you use company time, and company assets to push a personal agenda. Big surprise these rich coddled athletes steeling from others.

Wince said...

Is he saying this should be the only “cause” the NFL should allow for a demonstration during the anthem?

Or should every player look at it as an opportunity to protest or promote something?

Seems to me this was a content-neutral policy that preexisted these protests for that very reason.

Anonymous said...

Today's lesson in emotion-manipulating demagoguery, on how to appeal to a demographic dumber and less rational than the intended audience of the video in yesterday's lesson.

Sebastian said...

"Ted Cruz, who's got his own wacko rhetorical stylings"

Yeah, the wacko stylings of a champion debater who wipes the floor with anyone who argues with him.

Anyway, I stopped at "No, not disrespectful." The point is to protest by saying f** the flag, the country sucks. In your face, racist whiteys, deal with this.

jaydub said...

"Oooh, I'm mortally wounded, by someone who doesn't like blacks to be liked. What on Earth will I do?"

This statement is illustrative of your problem, Crack - you keep getting run over by a train of talking points. My comment had nothing to do with blacks or what anyone likes. It had to do with a racial scam artist's continuing vain quest to convince white Americans to fork over money for sins neither they nor their ancestors visited on Crack or his ancestors.

Stupid bigot.

Shouting Thomas said...

@Crack

Here's a hint.

You know what sustained me financially as a base through a lifetime as a pro musician?

A church organist gig. It didn't pay a lot, about a third of what I needed, but it was always there. The performing stuff was a crap shoot. Bands fall apart over the dumbest shit, usually at about the moment they're ready to take off and prosper. Recording companies (when they last existed) ripped off everybody.

The black Baptist church is desperate to draw in black men who aren't old and dying. They pay their musicians. You don't even have to be a believer to do the job.

Francisco D said...

"Because of their obvious and historically documented mental problems, white people probably shouldn't be allowed to frame anything in history. They just can't handle it.

Attention Whore Alert!

Even Crack doesn't believe this bullshit. He's playing a game with people here.

Chuck said...

I'm getting an awful lot of fundraising and support appeals from Ted Cruz. 1 or 2 a day, for the last 10 days or so.

I really find it hard to imagine O'Rourke winning Texas. But if he did... wow!

The last Democratic Senator from Texas was the guy (Bob Kreuger) who was appointed by Gov. Ann Richards to take Lloyd Bentsen's place when he became President Carter's Treasury Secretary. A generation ago.

I think that the Democrats' tack to the far left is a generally losing strategy. But Texas might be a place where raw anti-Trump turnout could make the difference. Most polling right now has Cruz and O'Rourke within the margin of error. (49-45 for Cruz.)

The Crack Emcee said...

rhhardin said...

"I'd be interested in your take on Derbyshire's analysis of what gets called white supremacy, only one tiny category of which seems to involve ill will"

In case you guys haven't noticed, I'm not playing by the nice-nice cult-hunting rules - I abandoned them a decade ago - I call cults "cults" and whites "racists" and "Nazis" and "white supremacists" and everything else they've inflicted on us without acknowledging their roles in. (Who brought the German Nazis here, after WWII, to work on rockets? Not the blacks - we would've killed them. White people? They wanted to learn yoga from them. The Nazis loved yoga and whatnot - coincidence? Apologies for doing it and damning us to this illogical future? Never.)

I do say (some) whites, because there are exceptions, but - as a black man looking for them - they're few and far between. More common are y'all: arrogant assholes who don't listen, don't know much (beyond what whites like Derbyshire say) and insist we have to listen to them, because - WHITENESS.

Just pay the reparations and let's stop talking about it. I'm not hoping to cure anybody. I think whites are too far gone for that. I just want money for putting up with their bullshit for my entire life. After I get it, it will be worth it, and listening to them won't be half as big of a hassle as it is today.

NCMoss said...

If Jordan Peterson could weigh in on this he would probably tell them, "if you want social change, get off your knee and go clean your room".

The Crack Emcee said...

Birkel said...

"I would like to see the Venn Diagram that describes how dislike of one person ends up being dislike of a whole group in the mind of the disliked person."

I don't see any of you assholes praising blacks as you work my last nerve.

Bay Area Guy said...

In the NBA, you have no protests during the National Anthem. None. Are LeBron, Steph Curry, James Harden, unconcerned about American cops purported mistreatment of Blacks?

Probably not. They probably simply don't want to damage the money flow, by insulting their fan base, and instead seek other avenues to let their voices be heard (i.e., LeBron's public school in Akron).

Henry said...

Yeah, the wacko stylings of a champion debater who wipes the floor with anyone who argues with him.

LOL

Howard said...

The jealousy of the players temporary and fickle financial success by you people is a primary indicator that cuck pussy snowflake is hard-wired in your psyche. It's obvious why you hate the Parkland Hogg and other librul squishes because it like looking in a mirror. the horror... the horror

Henry said...

as you work my last nerve

That would be a good blues refrain.

Dagwood said...

Don't care to watch.

Does he remember to mention that his own party is the one that was working so hard to deny black citizens their Constitutional rights?

Howard said...

BAG: Good point. Steve Kerr can be high and mighty about freedom of speak, but his masters won't allow kneeling because money. I go to lotsa Bay Area sporting events and the liberals love the SSB. Never saw anyone sitting during the national anthem.

Shouting Thomas said...

After I get it, it will be worth it, and listening to them won't be half as big of a hassle as it is today.

So, acquiring a job skill isn't in the cards.

In that case, fuck you and I hope you enjoy swimming in shit.

iowan2 said...

I haven't done the research to confirm, (don't care enough) Rush said yesterday that Before two years ago the Anthem was never televised. The NFL contract with the TV networks required the National Anthem be completed and field cleared before the contracted Air Time of the game. This makes sense to me. This is a contract between two very rich entities, Both extremely selfish about air time. Not broadcasting the Anthem, is a wise business decision by the networks. So, as usual, the networks lobbed onto this as a way to continue to sow racial division, because that to is positive $ decision for the networks

Gahrie said...

In the NBA, you have no protests during the National Anthem. None. Are LeBron, Steph Curry, James Harden, unconcerned about American cops purported mistreatment of Blacks?

Probably not. They probably simply don't want to damage the money flow, by insulting their fan base, and instead seek other avenues to let their voices be heard


The one time a player disrespected the anthem in the NBA the league punished the player and the team and it hasn't happened since.

The Drill SGT said...

Planted question

Rehearsed answer

I no longer watch the NFL

Birkel said...

To be fair, TCE, you will not read me praising anybody.
Your strange obsession is not mine.

Unknown said...

The national anthem is not a 'rah-rah' moment. If it were, then a protest would be a counter to genned up feel good look at us, and I'd totally understand. The national anthem has meaning, and protesting the meaning is dismissive of the meaning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaxGNQE5ZLA

Leland said...

People thinking Bob O'Rourke will beat Ted Cruz, just like Wendy Davis won the gubernatorial election. So send him your money and your sneakers!

Gahrie said...

I don't see any of you assholes praising blacks as you work my last nerve.

What should we be praising? The gang violence? The refusal to cooperate with the police? The 75% illegitimacy rate? The horrendous abortion numbers? The constant refrain of "it's all Whitey's fault?

daskol said...

Corny grand oratory.

Ken B said...

Shouldn’t this garner the demagoguery tag?

Ralph L said...

So, as usual, the networks lobbed onto this as a way to continue to sow racial division, because that to is positive $ decision for the networks

Yes, they probably thought it would improve ratings, since so many SJWs weren't watching.

robother said...

Let us now praise blacks: Not every single black person thinks like Crack. There are some exceptions, but they're few and far between.

Happy now, Crack?

JAORE said...

I quit the video about half way through. Equating John Lewis and the four little girls to the NFL players is sickening.

About how I feel when "journalists" compare themselves to the D-Day veterans.

But I guess you can't get more American than Jim Acosta.

Tommy Duncan said...

Blogger rhhardin said...

"The value of ritual is to get the crowd to stop milling around and pay attention so the game can start."

The value of the national anthem and the pledge of allegiance is as a reminder of what we have in common as Americans. The protests are a slap in the face to most Americans and a deliberate attempt to divide us.

Tribalism and identity politics suffer when we focus on what we hold in common.

John Pickering said...

How funny it is that Ann seems to have skipped the beginning of Beto's remarks, when he said short answer, no, he doesn't think taking a knee is disrespectful, because, as he goes on to say, it conforms to a history of non-violent protests meant to garner support for better civil rights for black Americans. But Ann always looks for the comedy. How hilarious is it that Paul Manafort, 69, faces 10 years in federal pen! A laff-riot! Sit-com material! Bring back Roseanne!

daskol said...

It is taking a while, but it seems as though people are coming round to rhhardin's terse but apt take on our public discourse.

JAORE said...

"Just pay the reparations and let's stop talking about it. I'm not hoping to cure anybody. I think whites are too far gone for that. I just want money for putting up with their bullshit for my entire life"

It's not been my entire life, or even a significant portion of it. But if putting up with bullshit is the criteria, I'd say you owe everyone that comments of Althouse a buck or two already.

mtrobertslaw said...

The difference between those who applaud taking a knee during the National Anthem and those who find it upsetting have two different understandings of our national flag. One side sees the flag as a symbol of our highest values and principles, values and principles that we sometimes have failed to live up to. The other side agrees the flag may be a symbol of our highest principles, but also sees it as a symbol that celebrates the times we have fallen short of these principles. And to this extent, the implication is the flag has something in common with the Nazi swastika flag.

Beto O'Rourke's rhetoric suggests this second .

Shouting Thomas said...

Given Crack's Big Man, pimp, race hustler game, how long do you think it would be before he blew that reparations loot on some dumb ass grandiose scam?

How many years after leaving pro football or basketball before the majority of black players are dead broke and file for bankruptcy?

President-Mom-Jeans said...

"After I get it, it will be worth it, and listening to them won't be half as big of a hassle as it is today."

I would say that Crack is a poor man's Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, but that would imply that he would at least be able to get some tiny amount of money for trying to shake down whites for money.

He is more a homeless man's Jesse Jackson. Which is why he is often homeless.

You will die alone, angry, and in abject poverty Crack. Entirely of your own making.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

The skin color wars.

A black man called into a local talk show hosted by a white female. Discussion was kneeling & protesting by professional football players at the game. The man said he's aware of all the issues. He's aware. Totally aware. Doesn't like being preached to. Please stop the preaching and the finger wagging and the SJW knees.
Just wants to watch the game and turn all that other stuff off for a while.

No can do.

Francisco D said...

Crack is trying to provoke people into making remarks that he will interpret as racial inflammatory.

It's a con game.

Birkel said...

Isn’t it hilarious that John Pickering thinks this statement will win votes?

Bob Boyd said...

Ralph L said...
"We all know what they used to use corn cobs for."

I don't.

walter said...

Bob,
I had a math teacher who would use the phrase "rougher than a cob".

Qwinn said...

"Pay me reparations and we'll call it even", posts the grifter from his phone as he stands in line waiting for his welfare check.

chickelit said...

“Who brought the German Nazis here, after WWII, to work on rockets?”

What did you want instead...coke bottles falling from the sky?

Iowan2 said...

Ralph. This isn’t about NFL ratings. It’s about culture wars, it’s good for ratings across the broadcast spectrum. With ha added tweek of added fodder trying to make conservatives look bad. No matter how many times it circles back a sinks leftists, ‘me too’ for instance

chickelit said...

Shouting Thomas wrote: “Let the players do what they want. They're behaving stupidly. They're entitled to do that.”

He’s right. The NFL problem is an easy one to solve at the personal level: Just stop watching! The moneymaker owners don’t want you as fans any way. Get out there and do other stuff on Sundays this fall.

Ralph L said...

Bob, they were kept in the outhouse.

Bob Boyd said...

walter said...
"Bob,
I had a math teacher who would use the phrase "rougher than a cob""

They made abacuses out of them?

bonkti said...

He wraps himself up in the flag and then kneels in it.

FWBuff said...

My millennial daughters (2 of whom are Texas voters) say that Beto O'Rourke comes across as the cool guy who runs for student body president and tells everyone that he is for replacing the water in the drinking fountains at school with Dr Pepper.

Bob Boyd said...

Ralph L said...
Bob, they were kept in the outhouse.

Oh. Interesting.

William said...

I think corn cobs were used for wiping the ass. Modern technology has made our lives better in so many ways. I'm just glad I live in a country where you don't have to wipe your ass with a corn cob.

clint said...

Just saw a Beto O'Rourke For Senate bumper sticker.

On a car in Massachusetts.

With a Massachusetts license plate.

He's got a wide following nationally, but I still don't see how this is going to win him a statewide race in Texas.

Matt said...

Wow! So inspiring. I mean, I only listened to about half of it until I got bored. And I was doing other stuff at the same time. And for the 10 seconds I was actually watching, O'Rourke's hand motions and digressions were distracting.

But yeah, totally inspiring. He was talking about civil rights and stuff, right?

bleh said...

Pretty scattershot and incoherent. A monotone delivery with lots of "ums." I found his hand gestures to be awkward and distracting. I think he's consciously trying to echo Obama's style but he does not succeed. He has no fire and is quite bland. I had to stop at 3 minutes.

There's no accounting for taste, I suppose.

William said...

The kneeling thing doesn't disrespect the flag. It disrespects the people who respect the flag.........On Martin Luther King Day, I think women should pay tribute to the #metoo movement by taking the knee for a moment before any event honoring King's memory. Perhaps someone should piss on the eternal flame at JFK's gravesite and put it out. Be hard to get a woman to do that but maybe one of the transgendered could accomplish the protest.. At any rate, it's about time we took note of the trail of tears these notorious philanderers left in their wake.

bleh said...

By the way, kneeling for the anthem IS disrespectful. That's the whole point!

wholelottasplainin said...

Crack said:

"Maybe it's whites who can't see the error of their ways - that's happened before - many times, over centuries."

**********************

While blacks, OTOH, have tripped from success to success, by learning from their previous errors over the centuries, leading their entire continent to unmatched wealth and harmony.

Like in South Africa, right now. After seeing what happened in Zimbabwe right next door.

Snort.

Gojuplyr831@gmail.com said...


Blogger Francisco D said...
Crack is trying to provoke people into making remarks that he will interpret as racial inflammatory.

Not so. His game is to simply declare everything to be racist and only giving him money will absolve the white guilt.

You are spot on right about it being a con. I doubt Crack himself believes the BS he spews. Which of course makes me irredeemably racist.

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Original Mike said...

”His game is to simply declare everything to be racist and only giving him money will absolve the white guilt.”

Sure glad I don’t have any of that. White guilt, that is.

Limited blogger said...

skipped through it, the droning never varied

policraticus said...

I think the main reason I find the kneeling distasteful is the protest isn't being done in a public space, it isn't being done on the player's own time. The players aren't gathering on a street corner, or taking their protest to a public park. They aren't writing editorials or publishing papers about their grievances. They are not engaging in public debate and arguing their points in a reasoned manner. All of that I would find entirely admirable, even if I think their perspective is less than coherent. Instead of doing all that, which is absolutely and properly protected under the First Amendment, they are staging a cheap stunt during a game, a game for which the players are being handsomely, if not lavishly, if not obscenely paid by the NFL and, ultimately, by the fans. They have bullied the NFL owners into thinking that their protests should be allowed because of "free speech."

That is nonsense. No employee, of any business, has the right to express their political views without limits set by their employer. I own a restaurant. My servers can hold any political belief they want, from Rand's libertarianism to The Juche Ideal. They can certainly advocate for those beliefs however they want, on their own time. But while they are serving my customers, I expect them to have a neutral affect and focus on service. If a server started to present every check with a political pamphlet, then that server and I would have to have a serious discussion about the future of their employment.

So, the people truly at fault here are not the players, but the owners. They have the power to stop this nonsense, but lack the will to do it. We'll see if professional football suffers financially again this season. If it doesn't then maybe the owners understand their customers better than we thought.

Bob Boyd said...

"I'm just glad I live in a country where you don't have to wipe your ass with a corn cob."

I cried because I had no cob, then I met a man who had no ass.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

The left are desperate to oust Cruz because he made this:

Effective and filled with truth.... about the Clintons and the Clinton media

Achilles said...

Martin Luther King ardently avoided protesting the flag and remained pro American.

He realized the United States was the only country in the world that gave him the freedom to be a hero.

These protesters are just shitheads with no there there.

They made their money. They don’t care about anything other than themselves.

mockturtle said...

His feckless 'sincerity' is all-too reminiscent of that of the younger Kennedys. The older ones, too, for that matter.

robother said...

Crack Emcee: "I'm not trying to make strong arguments - I told you: I'm not trying to save you assholes - I'm transmitting pure disgust."

Don't doubt for a minute that Crack believes the BS he spews. Or that he speaks for 90-99% of blacks. To assume otherwise is a trap the white farmers of Zimbabwe and South Africa have discovered they lose their lives in.

The Crack Emcee said...

Shouting Thomas said...

"So, acquiring a job skill isn't in the cards."

An American white man's main concern, then as now: making blacks work.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Eerie that the other actors kinda look like STrozk.

Achilles said...

Just pay the reparations and let's stop talking about it. I'm not hoping to cure anybody. I think whites are too far gone for that. I just want money for putting up with their bullshit for my entire life. After I get it, it will be worth it, and listening to them won't be half as big of a hassle as it is today.

It is a good thing that black people are free to take responsibility for themselves and behave as individuals. They all have the opportunity to succeed and many are taking it.

The above attitude is poison and only leads to misery and poverty.

Only evil people peddle that shit. It hurts black people more than anyone else. Martin Luther King understood that.

The Crack Emcee said...

Gahrie said...

"What should we be praising? The gang violence? The refusal to cooperate with the police? The 75% illegitimacy rate? The horrendous abortion numbers? The constant refrain of "it's all Whitey's fault?"

I'm not going to try and reason with anyone who judges black culture only by it's worst aspects - and insists on using slavery-era terminology like "back on the plantation" - especially when those same whites don't acknowledge how, after centuries of their interference in our lives, they contributed to any of those pathologies.

Whites are a dishonest people, collectively, and should be addressed as such - until they're willing to address reality.

Hammond X. Gritzkofe said...

O'Rourke lost me in the first five seconds of his response with "...this really important issue."

The man is running for the LEGISLATURE. The outfit that MAKES LAWS (and only too rarely repeals them. You gonna PAY A GUY to MAKE A FEDERAL LAW AT PENALTY OF YOUR PROPERTY, YOUR LIBERTY, YOUR LIFE, about POSTURE REQUIRED DURING PLAYING OF THE NATIONAL ANTHEM?

The Crack Emcee said...

James Smith said...

"Crack is trying to provoke people into making remarks that he will interpret as racial inflammatory."

Right. I have to force Gahrie, etc., to limit their view of blacks entire history in America to criminality and out of control births? Pffft. Occum's Razor says it's more likely he's a racist and y'all are the cowardly white crowd, always silently waiting for a lynching.

Shouting Thomas said...

I wasn't talking about "blacks," Crack.

I was talking about one lazy ass scamming motherfucker.

Hammond X. Gritzkofe said...

And yes, the answer came so fast and smoothly that the question was likely a plant.

Shouting Thomas said...

Crack, it's long past time you should have noticed I won't play your fucking con man jive games.

What's the purpose of continuing to address me as if I will?

You're just a fucking con artist. You're wasting your fucking idiot life playing out this stupid con.

God knows, you deserve your misery.

Martin said...

Jonathan Haidt and Jordan Peterson, among others, make the point that one of the fundamental ways people differ is in what they hold to be sacred. The "kneeling" controversy is a perfect case in point.

I am offended because I view the anthem and flag as far beyond the specific claims of injustice--if you have a problem with police actions, find a way to express that with focus on those police actions, not the country as a whole. But that's just me.

I would ask the people who kneel, and those who agree with those who do, "Is there anything about the United States where disrespect would offend you, and if so, what and why?" Burning the flag? Making flag-themed toilet paper? Burning a copy of the Constitution?

mockturtle said...

I do know this, Crack: An attitude of victimhood has never overcome any obstacles nor led to prosperity, either emotional or economic. This is true for women, for the Balkan countries and for 'people of color' everywhere. Some would prefer to savor their grudge for generations--it's what they do. Croatia is a good example. If that's how you want to live, then go for it. But don't drag me into it.

My former husband, who was black, wan't anyone's victim. Nor is my biracial daughter.

The Crack Emcee said...

robother said...

"Let us now praise blacks: Not every single black person thinks like Crack. There are some exceptions, but they're few and far between."

The difference? Studies show most whites have NO black friends. Y'all talk from no experience whatsoever. I speak from a lifetime spent with whites.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

ST - only whitey need work. Lord knows we've paid in taxes far more than out fair share to pay for slavery. But it's never enough. The guilt, the money, the welfare state, the paying for people to sit and watch TV all day.... it will never end. It will only grow.

Shouting Thomas said...

You've never read a study in your life, liar.

buwaya said...

Rituals are important. Repeating some verbal formula or action for a lifetime trains a mind in a certain way. Religions have these things for a reason.

These are politically important as well. About the first thing the French revolutionaries did was to invent a slew of "patriotic" rituals, in order to create a sense of unity and loyalty to "France", which was at the time really a geographical concept at best, as opposed to the old personal loyalty to the king.

And the US had tons of these patriotic rituals, at one time, of which few remain. The purpose was the same, that of creating a sense of tribal unity among a disparate people, including, always, large numbers of foreigners. One of the aspects of the US breakdown, and a not inconsiderable factor in its coming breakup, is the still ongoing destruction of these rituals.

It is a sort of blindness to miss the workings of the irrational. These things exist and matter, which should be apparent even to those who aspire to rationality.

The Crack Emcee said...

JAORE said...

"It's not been my entire life, or even a significant portion of it. But if putting up with bullshit is the criteria, I'd say you owe everyone that comments of Althouse a buck or two already."

I love it: 1 black guy vs. a mob of white attackers - for simply holding a view on reparations they don't share - and I'm the problem.

It doesn't get more white American than that. Or Africaans. Or Nazi.

The Crack Emcee said...

President-Mom-Jeans said...

"You will die alone, angry, and in abject poverty Crack. Entirely of your own making."

Just like your father, and his father, and his father, and....America.

The Crack Emcee said...

Qwinn said...

"Pay me reparations and we'll call it even", posts the grifter from his phone as he stands in line waiting for his welfare check.

Hey, there's more than one way to get money out of you bastards.

The Crack Emcee said...

Jay Elink said...

"While blacks, OTOH, have tripped from success to success, by learning from their previous errors over the centuries, leading their entire continent to unmatched wealth and harmony."

I'll chart the trajectory of billionaire Jay-Z and filmmaker Ice Cube (since they're Americans) as evidence this is true.

Only white racists miss that and - as usual - run to Africa (a place black Americans have never been and whites deliberately disconnected us from) to try and deny us our successes. I like how whites leave out their own role in Africa's history as well - one of lies and plunder.

You're just horrible people. Ignorant as rocks, too.

buwaya said...

Koreans, as a culture, carry a tremendous chip on their shoulders.
This is because they have historically been put upon, being conquered by one or another of their neighbors, made tributaries or colonies and various attempts having being made to exploit and deracinate them. North Korean propaganda can sound absurd but it runs along the natural grain of the traditional Korean world view.

I just use Koreans as an example, there are lots of others in the same case.

It is possible to succeed while being full of bile against other peoples.
The key is in how one processes spite.

DavidD said...

“Just pay the reparations and let's stop talking about it.”

From whom? And how much, or what percent? And for how long?

Bullshit.

The Crack Emcee said...

Original Mike said...

”His game is to simply declare everything to be racist and only giving him money will absolve the white guilt.”

"Sure glad I don’t have any of that. White guilt, that is."

Blacks have said we don't want or need white guilt - I've said it on this blog - at least 100 times. But whites are still lying to each other that's what's expected.

How do you deal with people who lie asa matter of course? Who lie like others breathe? Who tell the same lie, over and over, even after it's been debunked?

You're horrible people.

The Crack Emcee said...

Achilles said...

"They don’t care about anything other than themselves."

Lesson Of The Day: White people saying things does not make them true.

mockturtle said...

Buwaya asserts: It is possible to succeed while being full of bile against other peoples.
The key is in how one processes spite.


Not if you use past wrongs to excuse your present lack of productivity. South Korea has never done this.

The Crack Emcee said...

Achilles said...

"Only evil people peddle that shit. It hurts black people more than anyone else. Martin Luther King understood that."

Here's MLK demanding reparations.

Now, when will you guys admit you know NOTHING about him, civil rights, blacks, or anything else you hate?

You're the baddies.

Original Mike said...

”How do you deal with people who lie asa matter of course? Who lie like others breathe? Who tell the same lie, over and over, even after it's been debunked?”

What “lie” are you talking about?

buwaya said...

The only lever American blacks have had in order to obtain any sort of concession from the rest is indeed "white guilt". "White guilt" itself is a historically remarkable condition. In any other culture at any other time this sort of concept would have been absurd.

The Crack Emcee said...

mockturtle said...

"I do know this, Crack: An attitude of victimhood has never overcome any obstacles nor led to prosperity, either emotional or economic."

And I know this: whites have never responded to other's desire for freedom with a welcoming attitude.

Now, hold a mirror up to THEM and their history of abusing others, and tell me whites know anything about how to undo the torture they, themselves, inflict on us.

You're like the Nazis, taking everything the Jews own, and then abusing them for being poor.

Amadeus 48 said...

I expected Peto to say, “Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?”

buwaya said...

Many Koreans have had a sense that their economic success is a way to spite their ancient enemies and even their current hegemonic allies (the US). It doesn't matter if the US or even the Japanese don't see the point of it.

The Crack Emcee said...

DavidD said...

“Just pay the reparations and let's stop talking about it.”

From whom? And how much, or what percent? And for how long?

Always the first question from racist whites - like whites haven't been keeping the answers to those questions hidden for the last 30 years by not passing the legislation to discover them.

Just horrible people. Partially for keeping you in the dark (if that's what's happened) regarding white's deliberately keeping those answers hidden.

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The Crack Emcee said...

mockturtle said...

"South Korea has never done this."

South Korea had American help - black Americans have hostile WHITE PEOPLE.

Why hostile? They're racists.

Occum's Razor again.

The Crack Emcee said...

Original Mike said...

"What “lie” are you talking about?"

Almost every assertion made here by white people.

President-Mom-Jeans said...

"Just like your father, and his father, and his father, and....America"

My father, who loves me and with whom I have many childhood memories of playing catch, going fishing, and attending sporting events with, when it is his time to go, will die in comfort surrounded by his loving family. He will pass on an inheritance since he is frugal, financially savy, and had a lifetime of hard work.

His father, my grandfather, a self made man and Navy veteran, died at home surrounded by his friends, wife, and loving children. He did not waste his life wallowing in victimhood and instead made something of himself and had a legacy to pass on.

You will die alone in a gutter without a cent to your name, and finally get your "reparations" with a paupers grave or government subsidized cremation. No one will mourn your loss, and society will be better off.

The Crack Emcee said...

buwaya said...

"The only lever American blacks have had in order to obtain any sort of concession from the rest is indeed "white guilt". "White guilt" itself is a historically remarkable condition. In any other culture at any other time this sort of concept would have been absurd."

Bullshit. Whites respond to two things: violence and the law. (Just horrible people.)

No one wants or needs their guilt - or even believes they collectively have any. It's like imagining the Nazis as cuddly.

The Crack Emcee said...

President-Mom-Jeans said...
"Just like your father, and his father, and his father, and....America"

My father,...

My GOD, YOU ARE DUMB!!! I was talking about black people, you moron.

Original Mike said...

”Almost every assertion made here by white people.”

Yeah, that’s not an answer.

President-Mom-Jeans said...

You aren't even smart or savvy enough to grift some money like Jackson or Sharpton. Does Althouse give you money, or is her allowing you to make a fool of yourself constantly enough for her to be one of the good whites in your book?

Henceforth you shall only be addressed as "The Homeless Man's Jesse Jackson." Kind of catchy, why don't you incorporate that into one of your no talent "songs" that you never make any money from?

PM said...

The music track tells you everything you need to know. Just a long Hallmark commercial.

buwaya said...

The Korean left has always blamed the US for the destruction of Korea in 1950-52.
And for supporting military dictatorships (Park Chung Hee) or presidential dictatorships (Syngman Rhee and others), for over 40 years.

This is, to my knowledge, also a common POV among the non-left in modern Korea, that the US was at best a mixed blessing.

The inaccuracy of this point of view is irrelevant.

Rosalyn C. said...

I listened to a CD of Louis Armstrong yesterday, so wonderful, and I thought about The Crack Emcee. There was a real disconnect with how he insists that no black people every amounted to anything in the USA, or ever was respected and loved, and most white people are horrible people.

I found the political BS espoused in the video and the logic of Crack to be idiotic and manipulative, pandering to white guilt, i.e., the need of liberals to be affirmed as good people by blacks. That kind of rhetoric doesn't fix a thing, doesn't lesson crime, doesn't improve the black community in any way. Sitting at a lunch counter, moving to the front of the bus, those were genuine acts of civil disobedience which made clear the injustice of the system of segregation. Disrespecting the flag is just disrespectful.

I think Cruz would base his rebuttal on facts, that blacks kill each other at an alarming rate. Why is that and how can that be stopped? Who is even asking that question? Yes, unarmed blacks are killed at a higher rate than unarmed whites, but more cops are killed by blacks than whites, at twice the rate you would expect from blacks' percentage of the population. And blacks don't feel safe in their own neighborhoods. And those problems are not discussed by the gentlemen kneeling at the anthem or afterwards. So disrespect the flag and the country all you want, collect your cash, live your flashy celebrity style. You will even be celebrated by guilty whites who live their upscale white lives in affluent spheres of society and will never have anything to do with ordinary black people. LOL.

mockturtle said...

None of the black people I know would prefer to be living in Africa today. While slavery was a monstrous evil, the US is a better place to live now than is Africa. And if you don't believe that, then go ahead and move there.

Achilles said...

South Africa is taking the white mans shit right now Crack.

Go there and help them.

If any black people want to become free citizens and get off the plantation they are free to join us. I will gladly help them reform our shitty public schools and reform the inner cities and their democrat lead police forces.

But if you just want to take other people’s stuff you are a Marxist pushing starvation and mass murder.

Evil.

Amadeus 48 said...

Hey, Crack: I love you, but I don’t want to pay you a dime for something my great, great grandfather didn’t do to your great, great grandfather. My great, great grandfather was farmer in rural Michigan. He voted for Lincoln twice. He was too old for the Union army. My grandfather spent 40 years hiring black, white, and hispanic folks in Benton Harbor, Michigan. Who are these “Whites” you are talking about? There are some bad people out there, and they come in every shade.

You seem like a smart guy. You are wasting your time peddling your line, but it is a free country. Enjoy your time here.

buwaya said...

True about violence, unfortunately effective violence requires the ability to conquer a polity. This has never been an option for black people in the US. And they have never been able to organize to do this without it all collapsing in indiscipline and randomness.

As for being perceived as personally and collectively dangerous, this seems a consequence of the prevailing cultural state. It is the result of misery, not a plan. Its analogies are in underclass groups elsewhere, European gypsies say.

The law is an illusion. A shared hallucination, intended to give cover and legitimacy to decisions exercised by the powerful. In this blacks have benefited to the extent that they are parts of the classic high-low coalition against the middle.
But in this case the role they serve is mainly as a moral club the elite uses against the volk.

Birkel said...

The Cruz response was not overwrought. He played it straight and will be received well.

Paraphrasing: The NFL has hurt its own brand.

buwaya said...

All people are "horrible".

There aren't any that aren't, other than occasionally.
Its very common to pretend to virtue, of whatever sort prevails locally, but in every case it is prudent to wonder what evil lurks in the hearts of the apparently benevolent.

Yancey Ward said...

If Cruz loses, it will be the biggest political upset in a Senate race I have ever seen, but this won't help the Democrats cause. I watched the video, and I doubt it moves the needle in in a positive direction for the Democrat- he tried to finesse the question as best he could, but the position is a losing one pretty much everywhere in the US, but especially so in Texas.

StephenFearby said...

Main definitions of oratory in English from: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/

oratory2
NOUN
mass noun
1 The art or practice of formal speaking in public.

‘the gift of persuasive oratory’

More example sentences Synonyms

1.1 Eloquent or rhetorical language.

‘learned discussions degenerated into pompous oratory’

IMO, In this clip, Beto came across as a very sincere but pompous ass.

The majority of Texas voters will likely see him as "All hat, no cattle".

Bill Crawford said...

Have any countries with a history of slavery paid reparations? England, for instance?

Original Mike said...

”You seem like a smart guy. You are wasting your time peddling your line,...”

He’s a con man, which is funny given the other con men he rails against. Perhaps it’s professional jealousy.

n.n said...

Diversity politics.

Known Unknown said...

The easy solution is to stop playing the anthem at NFL games, and other sporting events. I don't understand why the two are intertwined.

President-Mom-Jeans said...

Let's move on to more important things than the e-begging of the homeless man's jesse jackson.

Like the good news that Arizona may soon again have a Senator attending votes.

Amadeus 48 said...

When you look at the slave trade in Africa, you shake your head. The Arabs! The Indians! The African tribes! The Ottomans! They all did it. It wasn’t just the Europeans.

buwaya said...

The UK hasn't, but it has provided foreign aid to various of its ex-slave colonies such as Jamaica. It has also aided its various non-slave colonies, so this may not count. There is also an element of "affirmative action" in the UK, but from what I know it is less than the usual case in the US. And the UK has an AA problem across many very different immigrant groups.

Yancey Ward said...

"The easy solution is to stop playing the anthem at NFL games"

I agree, but then the protesters would find some other, more politically obnoxious way to protest at the games, wouldn't they? The anthem, at least, provides a lightening rod that the NFL at least hopes puts a cap on the damages to the brand.

The Crack Emcee said...

R.J. Chatt said...

"I listened to a CD of Louis Armstrong yesterday, so wonderful, and I thought about The Crack Emcee. There was a real disconnect with how he insists that no black people every amounted to anything in the USA, or ever was respected and loved"

Did I EVER assert that?

Man, you guys either can't read or you liiiiiie

Yancey Ward said...

The US has provide vast reparations in the form of social spending over the last 85 years.

Rosalyn C. said...

What frustrates me a little is that instead of dealing honestly and genuinely with problems intellectual blacks say things like, "unfortunately effective violence requires the ability to conquer a polity. This has never been an option for black people in the US. And they have never been able to organize to do this without it all collapsing in indiscipline and randomness." I don't even understand what he is saying. That "society" has to fix this?

People can be controlled to some extent by government but a free civil society is based on willing participation and willing adherence to the law. White neighborhoods or little towns where no one locks their doors at night aren't safe because they have cops everywhere. The police don't provide safety. The safety is a result of the mutual respect and self respect of free individuals living in a social setting. The anthem is a celebration of that ideal of a free society. That's why taking a knee is idiotic. A protest against the police? The police are not the problem.

I think Trump's approach of bring back jobs (the racist approach) is to give the black community a sense there is some reward and something to strive for -- self respect. I don't know if that will help but seems to be more productive than protesting the police.

The Crack Emcee said...

mockturtle said...

"None of the black people I know would prefer to be living in Africa today. While slavery was a monstrous evil, the US is a better place to live now than is Africa. And if you don't believe that, then go ahead and move there."

White racists are obsessed with mentioning Africa. It's a trip how they keep bringing it up to blacks - who white racists disconnected from Africa. They also like mentioning "the plantation".

It's like you're trying to admit your guilt without saying so.

Qwinn said...

Note how Crack doesn't deny he's collecting welfare.

That welfare is wealth earned predominantly by white folks and consumed by black folks far in excess of their percentage of the population.

It is money that was earned by white people, forcibly extracted from them, and then transferred to Crack.

Isn't there a word for forcing people to work and then transferring the wealth to themselves?

Crack isn't opposed to slavery in the slightest. He's actively in favor of it.
He's just demanding that he get to hold the whip. Just for a little while, of course.

buwaya said...

A very high proportion of US social spending has gone to pay white people to do things, very expensively, on behalf of black people. I wouldnt take this at face value.

The Crack Emcee said...

Achilles said...

"South Africa is taking the white mans shit right now Crack."

You're all insane, I tell you. What part of I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH AFRICA don't you understand? And what part of WHITE PEOPLE DID THAT is a mystery to you?

Let whites get massacred in SA. I don't care. It's good American whites can see what would happen if they were in a position to be punished for their crimes.

Outnumbering people doesn't make anyone great. That's something whites, here, just may soon understand. Lord knows, they never have before.

The Crack Emcee said...

Qwinn said...

"Note how Crack doesn't deny he's collecting welfare."

I give up.

President-Mom-Jeans said...

The homeless man's Jesse Jackson said, "Outnumbering people doesn't make anyone great. That's something whites, here, just may soon understand."

No, Gatling guns make people great. We already understand that very well.

Jim at said...

Throw a political temper tantrum at your place of employment and get back to me.

The NFL can go to hell. I'll never watch another minute.

David Begley said...

Beto loses by 10 points.

Things are way, way different in 2018 compared to 1968.

What an idiot.

Birkel said...

WHAT PART OF I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SLAVERY don’t you understand.

Jim at said...

Boy, I'm sure glad Crack is back on this blog.
Takes me 45 seconds to scroll through 150 comments.

grackle said...

The link in Althouse’s post was not inspiring to me as it was to the audience. Mr. O’Rourke is wrong. The NFL kneelers can protest all they want, other than desecrate the flag, without complaint from me or many others that continue to watch something other than pro football on our Sundays.

The NFL owners can cater to the Left all they want but if they continue the foolishness they will continue to lose viewers. Do the NFL players have the RIGHT to protest? Of course they do and I defended that right by my service in the US military, among other things.

Do I have the right to turn off the games as long as the defilement continues? I sure do, same as the players have the right to kneel. The kneelers and their supporters have their rights and I have MY rights.

I’m sure if Obama was still POTUS that he would have applauded the desecration from the beginning of it 2 years ago and would have praised it throughout. The flag, the anthem, patriotism itself is thought of by the Left as silly, naïve and worthless. That’s their “right.”

I thank God that I do not have a President that allows the desecration to go unchallenged.

buwaya said...

European gypsies are an interesting analogy.
They were a distinct underclass for almost a thousand years.
Indeed, in various countries, notably Romania, they were held as slaves long after slavery and serfdom were abolished in Western Europe, the last gypsy slaves being freed in 1856.

Its interesting that the abolitionist movement that freed the gypsies was a direct outgrowth of the movement that freed African slaves, the Romanian worthies that carried it out having been influenced during their studies in Western Europe.

In any case, everywhere gypsies were despised, distrusted, and they lived on the fringes. They have always had a reputation for criminality and violence. They are still mainly in the underclass even now.

Despite this, or probably, partly because of it, they have been very culturally influential. Gypsy references, elements and inspirations are all over European culture. There have been a large number of notable Gypsy artists.

But in a continent that produced a Django Reinhardt you still have the professional pickpockets of Barcelona.

n.n said...

"White guilt" itself is a historically remarkable condition. In any other culture at any other time this sort of concept would have been absurd.

The majority who prostrate themselves are masochistic. The minority who exploit them are sadistic. The rest of the population is working to avoid the progressive slope and reconcile what was, what is, and a conservation of principles.

Original Mike said...

Blogger Birkel said...”WHAT PART OF I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SLAVERY don’t you understand.”

Thanks. I was too lazy to type that.

Michael K said...

Jesus ! A Crack thread.

Bye.

robother said...

"Let whites get massacred in SA. I don't care."

Of course you don't, anymore than you would have a problem with a similar massacre here, had you the numbers and/or power to initiate it. Crack, you eloquently represent the default social organization programming of humans (and for that matter all primates). Racism/tribalism is its own best argument: it doesn't need to persuade, only to conquer, enslave or exterminate the Other.

Western European Christianity evolved a internalized guilt-based rational social and legal model unique among all the racial groups in the world (even as it was conquering much of that world). From the viewpoint of the default tribalist person, it is a suicidally crazy system, but one that can be exploited to extract wealth and comforts such tribalist systems could never produce on their own.

TestTube said...

The video marks the exact moment Beto completely transitioned from "Viable candidate for U.S. Senator from Texas" to "Progressive celebrity squee-boy".

I'm OK with that. Everyone needs their fantasy, and if progressives want to gaze dreamily upon a Kennedy-esque Adonis who is too pure, too refined, too good to be sullied by public office for the sake of us Texans, I'm satisfied to trade that for a competent, conservative, experienced Senator

Not to mention an advantage in at least three dead-heat House districts.

Note: "Kennedy-esque" is not a compliment in most of Texas.

Qwinn said...

"I give up."

Of course you do. Easier than justifying your own clearly stated desire to enslave white people. Just because you want to use government as your proxy slavemaster to hold and use the whip for you doesn't make you any less a slaver.

Don't feel too bad though. Everything I just said applies to all socialists, not just you.

Drago said...

Crack: "That's something whites, here, just may soon understand."

Its good that we all lay our cards on the table.

For instance, Crack is to be commended for publicly stating his desire for racial genocide here in the US.

Now it can be discussed more openly and honestly.

I think all leftists/LLR's should be so honest.

Good for you Crack.

hombre said...

Very articulate and bullshit.

Early on he says basically "they" didn't get full civil rights. Really? Which civil rights didn't "they" get? If elected, which civil rights will he "garner" for "them"?

Good lord, I'm sick of the race baiters!

Oh yeah and of course kneeling during the anthem is disrespectful. That's the point. Early on, several of these millionaire "protesters" were unable to articulate exactly what they were protesting about this country that elevated them economically to the top 1% and whose sons, of all colors, died to give them the right to protest.

mccullough said...

It’s not the handful of guys who kneel during the anthem that will bring down the NFL. It’s rapists like Ben Roethlisberger and James Winston and guts who beat their girlfriends.

I gave up on the NFL awhile ago for so many teams employing these vicious scum.

Any Steelers fan who stayed with that team after the Rooneys refused to fire Rorthlisberger for rape is a fool.

The Lakers didn’t lose any fans after Kobe raped that hotel worker.

People’s moral priorities are fucked up. The NFL should go out of business.

Andrew said...

"Note: 'Kennedy-esque' is not a compliment in most of Texas."


"Yes, but other than that, Mrs. Kennedy, you must admit that Dallas is a beautiful city."

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