I invite you to offer your own explanations, but I'm reading "As Critics Assail Trump, His Supporters Dig In Deeper" (NYT)...
In interviews across the country over the last few days, dozens of Trump voters, as well as pollsters and strategists, described something like a bonding experience with the president that happens each time Republicans have to answer a now-familiar question: “How can you possibly still support this man?”...Then there's "Trump Loses His Superpower/The president’s tweets have been powerless against images of migrant children in the news media," by Jack Shafer (Politico) — which I feel like calling As Trump Supporters Resist the Assailing of Trump, His Antagonists Dig In Deeper:
Republican voters repeatedly described an instinctive, protective response to the president, and their support has grown in recent months.... Mr. Trump has also retained support across a range of demographics other than the working-class voters who are most identified with him....
[A]s another immigration crisis of his own making smoldered this past week, critics inside and outside Mr. Trump’s party predicted another devastating, irremediable low point in his presidency. Yet many Trump voters said that they no longer had the patience or interest to listen to what they see as another hysterical outburst by Democrats, Republican “Never Trumpers” and the media....
For many Republicans, the audio of children sobbing at a migrant detention center barely registered, because these voters don’t pay attention to the left-leaning and mainstream media that have covered the family separation crisis far more than their preferred channel, Fox News....
Others said they saw a ploy by the president’s enemies to obscure news that was more favorable to him, like the internal Justice Department investigation that recently uncovered evidence of F.B.I. officials speaking disparagingly of Mr. Trump....
The border story couldn’t have arrived at a worse time for Trump. After the inspector general’s report on FBI handling of the Clinton email investigation came out on June 14, Trump seized on it with his demagogic tentacles and started to score points with his misguided supporters about how the deep state had attempted to block his election....So... hit him in the thing that he doesn't have. Is that a Zen koan? I don't know. Jack Shafer just sounds... truculent. It's inspiring my instinctive, protective response. Shafer ought to see how battering Trump stimulates that feeling... but it would take some... emotional intelligence.
But... the border story nullified Trump’s howling about the IG report and the evil James Comey. Nobody wanted to hear about the IG anymore; they wanted to hear Trump justify the border policy. Trump was now facing a story that couldn’t be diluted or contaminated with Twitter truculence....
For three years now we’ve been told that nothing bad sticks to Trump, that his mind games and double-talk make him invulnerable to the protestations of the righteous. That no matter how tight his detractors tie the knot, he’ll always slip out of it. This week we learned differently. Trump can reliably win the battle if it’s fought with words. But against images and descriptions of distraught and traumatized children and parents, Trump’s superpowers fail. If you want to beat Trump, hit him in the heart because he doesn’t seem to have one. He’s a man with zero emotional intelligence.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 381 of 381All peoples everywhere respond well to "this kind of stuff", if it is permitted to emerge. Its also very much contingent. "This kind of stuff" is fine, perhaps, for some but not others, no?
This is a human universal. All elites everywhere seek to constrain thought and speech within safe channels (or safe from their point of view), else their power is too easily threatened.
Human nature.
Notice that sakerdcow has no solution to the problem,
Impeach Trump. NOW.
Solution: Revert back to the situation before Sessions' Zero Tolerance policy. Let Congress work out a more comperhensive solution, including money for the stupid wall. Oh, yeah, we CAN'T do that because...Republicans!
Civil unrest on out border. Something Americans haven’t experienced in a very long time. Clue bat coming.remember who’s agitating for this.
We aren’t ready.
Fisked from several different commenters:
"I’ve seen reports that over 90% of all press reports on Trump are negative while the reporters still claim to be unbiased."
Perhaps an accurate unbiased view of Trump can only be negative.
"...everyone can see the improvements in the economy and the foreign policy successes...."
Really? What are they? I hear Trump claiming great successes, but what has actually been accomplished? Other nations are reacting to Trump's talk of tariffs with statements of intent to implement their own tariffs, which could lead to a harmful trade war. "Lowest unemployment ever?" Even if that claim is true, it doesn't prove employment is high. Unemployment stats are just a measure of how many people are claiming unemployment benefits or who are looking for jobs. Once discouraged job hunters simply stop looking for work, and once one's unemployment benefits are used up, those people are no longer counted among the unemployed, and the stats on "unemployment" go down. To the degree more people are working, are they substantial jobs with benefits and good salaries and career tracks...or are they low-paid service jobs with poor or no benefits? These are the stats that tell the tale. And, how we do know when such improvements in employment rates as are valid stop being the result of the Obama administration and start becoming a result of Trump's? Even the deal with North Korea--which will be a good thing if it is actually consummated--hasn't yet been finalized.
"God help us if the left ever gets power again."
When has a "left" ever held power in America? "Left" is not a synonym for the Democrats, and the Dems are certainly not "left."
"The Left (sic) offers nothing practical in return for ditching Trump."
This is true. Trump is the fruit of Obama's betrayal of his promises to bring "change" and "hope." He just brought more of the same. Hillary was seen--and ran--as a continuation of Obama, and voters who got burned before said, "NO!"
The problem is not these misguided news program viewers who believe the tales they are told.
The problem is with the ownership of the means of propaganda.
@ Karen of Texas and @ Achilles,
Great follow-up comments. Thanks for taking on Inga so I don't have to.
Maybe we can make a long list of other children that the Left cares nothing about.
And I don’t pretend I have all the answers to all the arguments.
Quelle surprise. David Brooks does though! And we should argue with him, even though he won’t come here and answer our questions ever.
he’s gotta just get lost.
How conveeeenient! Whew, you almost had to back up your comments upthread, but then you found a handy escape hatch. Whew!
Oh, yeah, we CAN'T do that because...Republicans!
Lololol
The solution was already presented and declined by the Dems.
They’ve been working on this since 1986, but now it’s critical CRITICAL it be solved. Ho hum.
I have made an argument against Brooks - see above.
He does not understand what he writes about. His perspective is constrained.
And thats without even commenting on his motives, which I could.
So, you could rebut my rebuttal of Brooks.
Or if you like you could comment on the general state of American cultural warfare.
This pre-existed Trump, and is far bigger than Trump, or is overt political opponents.
"buwaya said....
He is, moreover, your national id.
What you think, deep in your hearts, but are too constrained to say, he bares.
He liberates you to argue honestly.
Indeed, he challenges you to argue honestly, without pretense."
This is exactly right.
I would only change it slightly. He is the id of white america. Or at least the marginalized white america that bought the lies of the Democratic party and the media and voted against their own self interest.
There are two sides in this conflict. Make no mistake it will become an even more dangerous conflict.
Do you know anything about the leading candidate in the Mexican Election? He is advocating that everyone has the right to come to the United States and that we have no right to stop it. He is advocating that they millions just "rush" the border and pour into America. He wants all of the poor in Mexico and Central America to just push their way in and that we don't have the means or the will to stop them. If he gets elected and puts the Mexican government behind this it will get really bad really fast.
Then you will see the ultimate desire of Inga and her ilk.
It is coming. Be careful what you wish for. You might get it.
The solution was already presented and declined by the Dems.
Really? Which congressional vote are you referring to?
Solution: Revert back to the situation before Sessions' Zero Tolerance policy. Let Congress work out a more comperhensive solution, including money for the stupid wall. Oh, yeah, we CAN'T do that because...Republicans!
So basically open up our borders and announce that we are going to close them in the future. Does your solution include a man with a starter’s pistol at the border? Are we Oklahoma? Are we going to start to call Mexican illegal border crossers “Sooners”?
Chuck said...
I could have read all of it without much concern, but for the the presumption that Republicans are supporting even the most dubious impulses of the Trump Administration.
It would be interesting if there was some anonymous polling of Congressional Republicans.
This is why it is no longer your party Chuck.
It is ours.
You and the cuck wing of the democrat party supported Hillary and that is where you will stay.
93% of DC voters voted for Hillary. Many of those call themselves republicans and were a lie foisted on republican voters.
Romney, Ryan, McCain, Flake, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Corker, Mueller, Rosenstein, Comey et al.
Buh Bye.
Ah, Chuck has seen fit to honor us with his presence.
I find this definition spot-on.
Moby
Left wing troll who tries to imitate a right winger, usually poorly due to left wing's complete misunderstanding of who right wingers are.
Often given away by telltale first line, "I'm a lifelong Republican, BUT..." or "As a lifelong Republican, I have to disagree with (Republican figure)..."
Moby: I'm a lifelong Republican, but it turns my stomach when I see the fascist rantings of these town hall protesters. What they are doing is worse than Hitler! I am going to vote Democrat until this stops and you should too!
Actual Republican: Try to dial it down next time, Moby. You'd be more convincing!
Then you will see the ultimate desire of Inga and her ilk.
It is coming. Be careful what you wish for. You might get it.
This is your id speaking.
Inga: I think there is a serious empathy problem on the right.
There is no empathy problem on the right. There is a serious thinking problem on the left.
Anyway, Ing, can you answer my simple question today? Had time to think about it, do some googling?
Is in-group preference in marriage, or other social arrangements, a tendency found only within a certain subset of white people?
"Yes", or "no".
I could probably rephrase it in simpler terms if you're having trouble understanding it. Maybe even add a few more options, like "none of the above", if you're feeling constrained.
There was this quote in the Times article; and more than Jack Schaefer’s column, this was the point that I was addressing:
“All nuance and all complexity — and these are complex issues — are completely lost,” she said, describing “overblown” reactions from the president’s critics, some of whom equated the Trump administration’s policy of separating migrant children and parents to history’s greatest atrocities.
“It makes me angry at them, which causes me to want to defend him to them more,” Ms. Anders said.
It really is a lot of nuance and complexity; Ms. Anders is right about that much. The mainstream media has been profoundly hysterical about the refugee child separation issue. But as much or more than anyone, Trump hasn’t articulated his own administration’s case. He continues to run down stupid generalizations and his same dumb campaign sayings.
Nowhere is the lack of articulated nuance and careful explanation as acute as inside the Oval Office.
You’re not serious, you are just the only Democrat who will show his face here, and already you have conceded that a wall is the only real long term solution to this problem that maintains our national sovereignty. That’s why nobody is allowed to discuss this rationally in the media. It’s obvious where a rational discussion would go.
“He is, moreover, your national id.
What you think, deep in your hearts, but are too constrained to say, he bares.
He liberates you to argue honestly.
Indeed, he challenges you to argue honestly, without pretense."
Exactly. And what we see and hear is pretty damn disturbing and ugly as sin.
Asshole
A scold who comes on a blog and imputes everyone else's motives because of his superiority. A one note one trick pony who never has anything interesting, original or funny to say ever.
Also know as an Ericson which is Norwegian for asshole that smells of bad herring.
Urban Dictionary
Asshole
Bitter tears.
“I would only change it slightly. He is the id of white america.”
Oh boy, ain’t that the truth? I gotta give Peely credit for honesty.
Nowhere is the lack of articulated nuance and careful explanation as acute as inside the Oval Office.
I don’t believe that the problem has as many complexities and nuances as you suggest. But there are monied interests who contribute heavily to both parties that would dearly like to inject some. Trump doesn’t need their money. You don’t see him every month hanging out with the ultra wealthy, tin cup in hand, like Obama did with Harvey Weinstein, etc.
The solution was already presented and declined by the Dems.
Really? Which congressional vote are you referring to?
Nice trick there. You know what was presented and declined. I learned my lesson well from “it depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is.”
1986. This immigration talk isn’t my first rodeo.
Nor is the social security sky is falling.
I am always honest Inga.
What I say is what every white working class man thinks but is afraid to say out loud.
Everything you do and the media does and the Democrats do only make us realize how true it is.
Keep it up. You are really helping us every time you open your yap.
In a flawed world, good public policy always requires the control of empathy for the purpose of dispassionate analysis. If one views the ability to control empathy as a sort of bell curve, we have a name for the right tail: psychopath. The people at the left tail don't have a name, but the picture of a crying child on some random channel late at night will get them to write a check. In fact, the picture of a sad-eyed puppy will get them to write a check. Probably the picture of a turtle will get them to write a check. They cannot participate in policy debates, because they cannot imagine what it is like to analyze dispassionately. They think that the only explanation for hardship in the world is that other people don't care.
Achilles,
I am telling you that if you just stop reading her comments, this blog will get so much better.
sakredkow said...
This is your id speaking.
You say the word "id."
You do not know what it means.
Not very many people in our country have "met" the id. They are too pampered and wealthy.
On a brighter note private citizens in the US own 40% the guns in the world.
The fools fill up the thread with out adding anything useful.
Cookie at least posts his wacky beliefs so we know where he is coming from. The anonymous trolls switch IDs and post angry abusive nonsense.
The probably next Mexican president is making some pretty wild promises and I would not dismiss them as empty slogans.
I remember when a Mexican president was elected, I think Echevarria, on a promise to give the peasants all the land being occupied by Americans. After the election, I knew people with second homes in Baja that were over run.
Land ownership in Mexico is sketchy anyway. Some never got it back.
Buwaya thinks Mexico is pretty much capitalist now but so was Russia in 1914.
“Keep it up. You are really helping us every time you open your yap.”
You too.
“Blogger langford peel said...
Why are we worrying about these baby shit hole monkeys. Send them all back the next day. No asylum. End that right now. End of problem. Send them back home. Don't teach them how to wash themselves or how to brush their teeth and use a toilet. Send them back.
The new Italian government has the right solution. The Good Times are over for you.
6/18/18, 12:11 PM
Blogger landlord peel said...
I think it is important to make distinctions.
So I would only use the term "Baby shit hole monkeys" to refer to Haitian illegal immigrants. Or maybe Somali's.
I seem to think that most of the refuse we are talking about here are Hispanic so a better term would be beaner babies.
I want to refine my terms.
But thanks for your input.“
Nice trick there. You know what was presented and declined. I learned my lesson well from “it depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is.”
What are you talking about? You said this was the Dems fault. GOP has the executive and both houses of congress. Why has the GOP not put anything up for a vote? I thought it was because of the hardcore GOP righties in the house?
What does Clinton's stupid quote have to do with this, rightie?
Quite. The id is out all over, and the MSM is being directed to stamp it down.
Interests and alliances are being revealed. The why of American politics is heing explained, and true feelings are being exposed.
Potemkin facades are being torn down and burned.
That bit about McCains staff urging the Obama DOJ to suppress the "Tea Party" was very revealing. Interestingly it seems to have happened (April 2013) just before the scandal broke open (May).
This isn’t a complex issue. America has had controls before. Other countries also have controls.
The fools fill up the thread with out adding anything useful.
BOO HOO HOO HOO! MOMMY MAKE THEM GO AWAY!
You're such a whining clown dude. You like tattled on everyone when you were younger, didn't you? Your siblings hated you, huh?
This isn’t a complex issue. America has had controls before. Other countries also have controls.
It's definitely complex but it's certainly doable. However we now have an executive implementing policy by tweet, with absolutely no planning ahead whatsoever. So we get this sh*tshow.
You post my comments like it proves something bad or something Inga.
But you see every white guy that ever sat in a movie theater while a bunch of apes screamed and yelled and acted like monkeys know exactly what I am talking about.
You get the same feeling when you have to deal with a big Momma at the DMV. Or if she is in front of you in line at the Seven Eleven.
You understand where I am coming from when you deal with the Mexican Illegals accosting you at Home Depot where they can steal jobs from Union workers.
Reality is what I am preaching. I am just not prettying it up. We need to be blunt and honest about it. That is why the President won. That is why he is going to win again. Bigly.
Not very many people in our country have "met" the id. They are too pampered and wealthy.
I think it might have been Orwell who said they play with fire because they don’t know that it is hot.
BTW, Trump hasn’t started any wars, and appears to be winding wars down, possibly ending the Korean War. So he’s ahead of Obama.
The GOP cannot put up something acceptable to all the GOP because the GOP is divided between its funders and its voters, which in this case have fundamentally opposed interests. This is one of those facts that has been clarified in the era of Trumpian honesty.
It is a matter of the efficiency of democratic representation, that is, do the elected truly represent their voters. Not a new problem. You see it all over.
@ Inga: Oh what the hell, I'll engage with you briefly.(By the way, autocorrect calls you Inca.)
My point, as others have pointed out, is the selectivity of your outrage. Why now? Why these children? Every example I gave could receive the same amount of media coverage, but that would not be politically expedient. These children at the border are merely pawns in the Democrat party chess game.
It reminds me of the Confederate statue controversy. Why now? Why is this all of a sudden an issue? Why did no one care about this for eight years under Obama? The answer is obvious.
Now let me add another point, about those kids on the border.
I know people who work to free children from sexual slavery rings in this country. It is a below-the-radar crisis here where I live. Many of those children came through the southern border with Mexico. Some of the perpetrators claimed to be the children's parents.
Separating a child from a parent surely seems cruel. But I think it must be remembered, some of those parents aren't really parents. And some of the actual parents are not acting in the child's best interests, to say the least. In some cases, children are used as drug mules. In some cases, the child is being kidnapped (the child on the Time magazine cover, for example).
There are people on both sides of the border who exploit children. And there are times where separating a child from his or her parent, or pseudo-parent, is actually the humane thing to do. And the government is not omniscient - they don't know who these people are when they show up at the border. (But I do agree we should no longer use "Obama cages.")
The issue is far more complicated than it's portrayed in the media. And all the mass hysteria is not helping. If you care about children, you have to think this through on a level that's not pure emotion.
Revert back to the situation before Sessions' Zero Tolerance policy.
So back to catch-and-release.
No.
Next.
Here’s some more honesty from a white supremacist.
Blogger langford peel said...
Personally I think it is a good thing to stop people from frequenting our establishments if we disagree with them or their life stlye.
So I can throw gays out of my bakery and tell those brown people not to sit at my lunch counter.
I approve. Lets institute that as the law of the land. I am very pleased that the Democrats are coming back home to what was always their view of the world.
Segregation now....segregation tomorrow....segregation forever.
6/23/18, 12:39 PM
Blogger Langford Peel said...
It is not extremist to want to associate with your own kind. Your type of people. A homogeneous gathering based on race.
Stick with your own kind.”
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Blogger langford peel said...
Marrying outside of your race is stupid but not illegal. However it should be illegal to force people to associate with others if you do not want to do so.
I don't condemn poor Achilles. I feel sorry for him.
People go native. Some like their poon tang extra tangy. If that is what he wants then good enough for him. I just don't want to be forced to do the same.
I agree with the liberals who refused Sarah Sanders service. I am sure you do too Inga. You should be able to refuse to associate with people who will destroy your culture and your community.
When we got away from that we started the inevitable decline of our civilization. Just as the Romans did when they invited the Vandals and the rest of the barbarians inside.
History always repeats itself.
Just realize one thing. White supremacy is the only viable method of survival for a society.
Or you can live in Baltimore.
6/23/18, 2:21 PM
But you see every white guy that ever sat in a movie theater while a bunch of apes screamed and yelled and acted like monkeys know exactly what I am talking about.
Everybody knows what you are talking about, pal. You're saying "I am a racist." Not that you would ever say any of your racist nonsense outside of the anonymity of the internet...
What are you talking about?
1986 the Dems said sure, we’ll do X but give amnesty first. Ronnie fell for it and I think it was one of his greatest regrets.
We got and kept getting amnestys, what them Dems agreed to to get amnesty not so much.
Dems controlled both houses for decades. They lost the senate 1986, gained it back until all House broke loose in 1994.
Nixon supposedly offered Chappaquiddick Ted national health care. Ted turned it down to use as a cudgel.
Start be agreeing to end chain migration.
A deal can be had.
But you’d rather have civil unrest.
So be it.
I think, sakredkow, the 1986 response was a clue where he was going. You might do some brushing up on the attempt that Reagan made to address this mess waaay back when. And how the precious opposing Democrat party... kept their end of the bargain.
Lesson learned.
BTW, Trump hasn’t started any wars, and appears to be winding wars down, possibly ending the Korean War.
Hell, yeah. Mission accomplished.
The Peasants are Revolting! said...
Achilles,
I am telling you that if you just stop reading her comments, this blog will get so much better.
No. It wont.
You have not met the id.
I want this to end peacefully and that means convincing the enemies of freedom to back down before they go too far.
The 99% of people in this country who have not met the id don't know they really don't want to meet the id.
I have a family and kids. I want to get a job and help them grow up.
But they wont grow up in a country that spies on political opponents and re-institutes Jim Crow this time against people who don't toe the progressive line.
It is incumbent that they understand the full repercussions of their actions and that their completely amoral positions will gain them no sympathy or quarter.
I really don’t understand all the brouhaha over something so trivial.
The Chicoms intend to rule the world, they’ll sort it out.
Xi says China must lead way in reform of global governance
That bit about McCains staff urging the Obama DOJ to suppress the "Tea Party" was very revealing. Interestingly it seems to have happened (April 2013) just before the scandal broke open (May).
McCain has been a nasty megalomaniac since 2000. He was convinced Bush stole the nomination from him in South Carolina.
He is contemptuous of the voters and called the Tea Party "Crazies."
His McCain Feingold Law has badly damaged Congress and the staffs now write the legislation as a result.
Cutting and pasting seems to be your forte Inga. It is the only thing you can do.
But thanks for restating eternal truths.
You see why all of these shit house monkeys want to come to America or England or Germany or Sweden.
None of them are invading Hati or Mexico or Syria or China or any other shit hole country.
They all agree. White countries controlled by white people are the only viable model for society. They are voting with their feet. The problem is they destroy it by their mere presence. Which is nothing new. It happened in all of our cities with the white flight. Now it is an entire country that is at risk.
It's definitely complex but it's certainly doable. However we now have an executive...
Who was elected because nobody was doing anything, because Republicans liked the downward pressure on wages from the illegals and the Democrats like the votes. Now we get somebody willing to stand up for low skilled American workers who face competition from illegals. I call them scabs, because they cross the border (picket line) to work for less and under conditions that Americans refuse.
The French have a saying that goes something like “That beast is evil, when attacked, it defends itself.”
What you don’t understand is that your favored policies are aggressive toward others and against their economic interests, and you are shocked that these fellow Americans don’t like being the victims of policies you seem to see as unalloyed good for all. You think the only possible objection is racism.
It is NOT COMPLEX.
"So back to catch-and-release."
'kow is opposed to open borders, be he wants to make sure the borders stay open.
So, an honest way to deal with racists is - acknowledge that they are, and moreover that they exist.
- argue them out of their positions through facts and logic, if possible (if such facts are available)
- persuade them through emotional appeals, such as through performing great deeds of sacrifice and valor
- provide great economic or social value.
These are honest ways.
The dishonest way is to shut them up. This just makes ill feeling fester.
'kow is opposed to open borders, be he wants to make sure the borders stay open.
So you're just arguing "Either we do it Trump and Sessions' way or we have open borders". Like we can't do better than that. Talk about low expectations. Of course, unless you really really WANT the Zero Tolerance policy as implemented.
Blogger buwaya said...
The GOP cannot put up something acceptable to all the GOP because the GOP is divided between its funders and its voters, which in this case have fundamentally opposed interests.
Fundamental truth. Maybe Trump will convert enough Congress critters to his side that he can get some serious stuff done.
We'll see.
The angry left will throw all possible barriers in the way but we may be near peak left.
It took Democrats many years to get power back after the Civil War and if Lincoln had not been assassinated by a southerner, the period that became Reconstruction might have been very different.
It's possible that the left will lead the Democrats off the cliff this year or in 2020.
The dishonest way is to shut them up. This just makes ill feeling fester.
We don't shut people up in this country. People on both sides try from time to time but basically it's not an American value.
We call the racists out. In front of God, man, and their employers.
The question is, why don’t you folks care as much as we do?
But we do care. We care as much as you cared when Obama had kids locked in cages.
Now how about a conversation about solutions. You go first since you don't like what is going on.
people who were colonized by the French are nuts.
Look, no racism.
Jon Ericson, you obviously missed, or deliberately ignored the many times on this blog’s comments pages that I generally supported the technical and legal aspects of this administration’s immigration enforcement policies. It is hard to say exactly what the administration’s broader immigration policy might be, because Trump keeps saying different things to different audiences at different times.
But I have no doubt that I have been more direct in my support of certain Trump Administration immigration enforcement actions, than has Ann Althouse.
My only point has been that Trump has been mostly incompetent in defending those actions himself.
Last week, I specifically called Secretary Nielsen’s opening remarks to her White House briefing a “tour de force.”
But you call me a moby, because I am not sufficiently adulatory toward Trump.
Trump’s insult of his own base; that he could shoot somebody in the middle of Fifth Avenue and they wouldn’t care, was one of the few true things he said during the campaign.
Remember, they’re on their 5th Republic. They can’t get it right. Liberte fraternite egalite
Pick 2. There’s no way you’re ever gonna get 3.
“They all agree. White countries controlled by white people are the only viable model for society. They are voting with their feet. The problem is they destroy it by their mere presence. Which is nothing new. It happened in all of our cities with the white flight. Now it is an entire country that is at risk.”
It’s really great when Peely starts his White Supremacist preaching. It might resonate with a few here, hopefully it makes the rest of you see a bit more clearly. Why have White Supremacist and White Nationalists glommed onto Trumpism?
Sakredkow,
You are being, er, disingenous, no?
"Call them out" is to invite sanctions, hence shut them up.
You are not arguing honestly I fear.
Why does America have to be the test case for open borders?
langford peel said...
You see why all of these shit house monkeys want to come to America or England or Germany or Sweden.
None of them are invading Hati or Mexico or Syria or China or any other shit hole country.
They all agree. White countries controlled by white people are the only viable model for society. They are voting with their feet. The problem is they destroy it by their mere presence. Which is nothing new. It happened in all of our cities with the white flight. Now it is an entire country that is at risk.
The only way this will end well is if we deal with it on the individual level.
They didn't choose to be born in Haiti or in Africa or Mexico.
They do make a choice in their actions.
Saying democrat voters are responsible for the vast majority of gun violence is just as easy as saying black people account for a disproportionate amount of gun violence.
They chose to be democrats.
They didn't choose to be black.
Focus on the democrat part not the black part.
Otherwise you are just another moby making it harder for us to fight the enemies of freedom who use your words to create more enemies for us.
“So, an honest way to deal with racists is - acknowledge that they are, and moreover that they exist.
- argue them out of their positions through facts and logic, if possible (if such facts are available)
- persuade them through emotional appeals, such as through performing great deeds of sacrifice and valor
- provide great economic or social value.
These are honest ways.
The dishonest way is to shut them up. This just makes ill feeling fester.”
I so agree! One of the reasons I encourage Peely to express himself here on these threads.
argue them out of their positions through facts and logic, if possible (if such facts are available)
- persuade them through emotional appeals, such as through performing great deeds of sacrifice and valor
- provide great economic or social value.
This happened with Jews and is happening with Asians.
Blacks have been taken way off course with the left's victim complex politics.
The Mexicans have flourished as cheap labor, some of which is quite skilled, but that generation of Mexican immigrants was 40 years ago and before.
Now, what we see are illiterate peasants who don't even speak Spanish.
The Central American immigrants came back in the 70s and were legalized in 1986. I had one for a housekeeper. She was from El Salvador and I got to know her quite well. She was literate and a hard worker.
What is coming now are less assimilable because they have been told there is no need to assimilate.
Also, the boys are being taken into gangs while here.
I think what empowers racists like Langford Peel, who sounds like my racist uncles from the ‘60s, is that today, everybody is a racist for the slightest theoretical infractions. If everybody is a racist, nobody is a racist. Maybe that’s Peel’s point. I don’t know, but I have called him out before and I call him out again.
When someone says I hate you I hate you I hate you I want to kill you enough times, you tend to believe him.
So when the same people say that and demand to be let in, ummmm no.
We call the racists out. In front of God, man, and their employers.
"Racist" being defined as disagreeing with us.
We see that, in restaurants for example.
"Call them out" is to invite sanctions, hence shut them up.
Absolutely all for calling real racists out. If the consequences of their public words or actions leads to them voluntarily shutting themselves up...well, that's dreadful. But so be it. Disingenuous my ass. I'll give it to you straight up. Let them face the consequences as well do.
“McCain has been a nasty megalomaniac since 2000. He was convinced Bush stole the nomination from him in South Carolina.”
Think of him this way. He may be your Senator now, for a bit longer, but he really isn’t as bad as what you left behind in CA.
Otherwise you are just another moby making it harder for us to fight the enemies of freedom who use your words to create more enemies for us.
Word.
"Like we can't do better than that."
Maybe we can, if we can break out the partisan ruts that we are currently in. I don't see any signs of that. Your lefty pals clearly want open borders, as do a big chunk of the traditional Chamber of Commerce Republican donor class. A lot of Americans do not, enough that we've been stalemated on this problem for decades.
This "kids in kkkages!" media propaganda show is just your allies latest attempt to push the ball down the field a few yards. As is typical with modern leftist propagand, it's all demonization, all the time. I see no attempt to "do better than that".
To be fair, you would get plenty of immigrants headed for Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore, and various other places also. They all actually have more foreigners in them than one would think. But they are all very strict about immigration.
The Middle East petro-states likewise have tons of third world peoples in them, in some cases very large fractions of the population, but they regulate them as contract laborers.
Poor countries tend to have very severe immigration laws in fact. Its a politically sensitive issue everywhere, as even these can represent greener grass to some even more wretched people.
"Racist" being defined as disagreeing with us.
There’s the problem, and that’s what empowers the Peels. Everybody is a racist, so nobody is a racist or racism isn’t really all that bad. Liberals are the ones who devalued the word.
Liberals are the ones who devalued the word.
Trump brought it back in style for sure. Value up.
@sakredkow,
Disingenuous my ass. I'll give it to you straight up. Let them face the consequences as well do.
Please get back to us when someone of authority in the Democratic Party calls out Minister Farrakhan. Or, when someone at CNN has an interview with a member of the Nation & asks him if he really believes that white people where created hundreds of years ago by a mad scientist named Yakub.
You want to deprive guys like Peel of oxygen? Clean out the racism that now infects lefty thought from top to bottom. Then get back to us.
Inga said...
It’s really great when Peely starts his White Supremacist preaching. It might resonate with a few here, hopefully it makes the rest of you see a bit more clearly. Why have White Supremacist and White Nationalists glommed onto Trumpism?
We tell him when he is wrong.
As soon as you actually denounce Peter Fonda, Hodgkinson, La Raza, BLM, Occupy Wall Street, The DNC, The Nation of Islam, Hillary and Bill Clinton, Barrack Obama, and all of the other criminals and mainstream democrat hatred seriously and apologize for your opportunistic amorality you can take a few years to prove you are a decent human being.
But you have glommed on to your own fascist hate filled movement full of racists and murders and totalitarians.
You will be treated accordingly.
Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up and if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere,
-Maxine Waters
I thought lefties didn't like this in a leader...
Democrats want open borders and amnesty.
Don't vote for Democrats.
Don't patronize people who support Democrats.
because Trump keeps saying different things to different audiences at different times.
OK, examples please.
Please get back to us when someone of authority in the Democratic Party calls out Minister Farrakhan.
Oh, please. Get your head out of the 80s and join us in 2018, will you?
Trump brought it back in style for sure. Value up.
No. Your power need to oppose Trump has caused you to double down on the use of the word, devaluing it faster than a Venezuelan Peso.
Mexico actually has a constitutional amendment spelling out how non-citizens are to be treated.
Now in that spirit, I’d be willing to talk about accepting those terms.
Article 9 Edit
Only citizens of the Republic of Mexico may take part in the political affairs of the country.[86]
because Trump keeps saying different things to different audiences at different times.
Bitter clinger.
Inga states:
"I base my observation about lack of empathy for these kids on the many many many comments here displaying exactly that." So that must mean you include former Presidents like Bush and Obama in this observation, since similar things were also done during their administrations. Wait, Inga, did not see it on MSM therefore it was not true!
Then get back to us.
Trumpistas are the last people we have to get back to. They have no moral authority on matters of race.
Oh, please. Get your head out of the 80s and join us in 2018, will you?
Paging Mitt Romney!
Inga said...
I so agree! One of the reasons I encourage Peely to express himself here on these threads.
Inga is a dishonest piece of shit and an enemy of freedom Lanford.
She is able to use your words to drive people away from our side over to theirs.
Democrats are responsible for 90+% of gun crime works far better than black people cause disproportionate amounts of gun crime.
Castigate them for being democrats. Something they chose.
Not for being Black. Something they didn't chose.
Otherwise I will just decide you are on Inga's side because you are helping her.
For one thing, there was eight years of insistence that any and all opposition to any Obama policy was based in racism. And then a national campaign that all opposition to Hillary was simple misogyny. This is not some new word that Democrats found to accurately describe some new reality.
But, sakredkow, you therefore assume they have no valid points.
But if they do, and indeed there are gross problems that are being arm-waved away, then you have to deal with everyone's cognitive dissonance. You make their case for them, as the observable facts often do not correspond to the imperative behind your suppression. And so your whole social structure loses credibility, your institutions lose credibility, as you very angrily insist on an apparent lie.
Vaclav Havel makes this point btw.
You cannot really have free speech and an open society if you suppress ANY speech, whether through official or unofficial sanctions.
@sakredkow,
Oh, please. Get your head out of the 80s and join us in 2018, will you?
No, cow. Remember that photo of Obama with Farrakhan that got hushed up? Remember the recent flap over no one at the Black Congressional Caucus who could be found to say a bad word about Rep Ellison & his relationship with Farrakhan?
What, you think The Nation went away? You're white aren't you? And, you're never really around any black people, are you?
And you haven't a clue as to what Identity Politics or Intersectionality are about, do you?
Your problem, Kow, is that you're an ignorant & arrogant asshole, & you get upset when you come here & people point that out to you. Stop being one. Come here, listen, respond respectfully, & actually learn something.
Trumpistas are the last people we have to get back to. They have no moral authority on matters of race.
See, anybody who voted for Trump is the same as Langford Peel. So who is providing Peel oxygen, again?
Well, I am done with sakredkow.
Disingenuous and trollish, with no arguments.
This isn’t about race. It’s about economics.
Mexico shouldn’t be in the pickle it’s in, and that has nothing to do with race. It has to do with choices and governing. Like Nicaragua, Venezuela, Cuba, China, the USSR...
The Chicoms keep the North Koreans out.
The Saudis built a fence.
The trolls and mobys we waste our time with and are distracted by, are here to reduce the number of readers of the Althouse blog and its above average commentary.
They are like the masked and bike lock wielding disruptors at free speech venues.
Tools will be tools.
They will always be with us.
Bullshit assertions deserve an eyeroll.
Understand the dynamic.
sakredkow said...
Then get back to us.
Trumpistas are the last people we have to get back to. They have no moral authority on matters of race.
A member of the party of Jim Crow, Eugenics, Slavery, Segregated public schools, Planned Parenthood, and Affirmative action claims moral authority on race.
Without irony.
Who has turned the inner cities into shit hole ghettoes where black people are being killed at a staggering rate?
Your problem, Kow, is that you're an ignorant & arrogant asshole, & you get upset when you come here & people point that out to you.
Sounds like you're the one with the upset, doesn't it really?
He may be your Senator now, for a bit longer, but he really isn’t as bad as what you left behind in CA.
Good point but CA is headed for the deep dodo soon.
But the state’s boom shows signs of leveling off: after growing much faster than the national average for several years, the economy, notes a recent report by the Los Angeles Economic Development Corporation, has now fallen to around the national average; the state is no longer generating income faster than its prime rivals such as Texas, Washington State, Oregon, or Utah. California Lutheran University forecaster Matthew Fienup suggests that the state’s economic growth could fall below national norms if current trends continue.
My daughter was interviewed by Apple for a very good job in Cupertino but she could not figure out where she would live. She was relieved when the job didn't materialize. She was thinking of buying a motor home and camping in parking lots.
“As soon as you actually denounce Peter Fonda, Hodgkinson, La Raza, BLM, Occupy Wall Street, The DNC, The Nation of Islam, Hillary and Bill Clinton, Barrack Obama, and all of the other criminals and mainstream democrat hatred seriously and apologize for your opportunistic amorality you can take a few years to prove you are a decent human being.
But you have glommed on to your own fascist hate filled movement full of racists and murders and totalitarians.
You will be treated accordingly.“
I denounce Peter Fonda, now for the third time. I denounce Hodgkinson now for the umpeenth time. I’ve denounced Bill and Hillary many times. I denounce all extremist radical ideologies and lastly I denounce the devil!
Hallelujah!
Oh yes, I denounce extremism as displayed by Achilles, he’s a very confused young man. I pity him and his family.
Their constitution is a mess. Look what happened with Pemex.
A member of the party of Jim Crow, Eugenics, Slavery, Segregated public schools, Planned Parenthood, and Affirmative action claims moral authority on race.
You don't know anything about what party I belong to do you, chump?
But, sakredkow, you therefore assume they have no valid points.
That’s the whole purpose behind these appeals to emotion and crying babies.
But we can never discuss record low black unemployment. Because it’s inconveeenient.
The trolls and mobys we waste our time with and are distracted by, are here to reduce the number of readers of the Althouse blog and its above average commentary.
Yes and the current sock puppet is an example. Has any detected a rational thought ?
They are all about nasty and hurt feelings.
You don't know anything about what party I belong to do you, chump?
My guess is DSA or Green.
Blogger Seeing Red said...
Mexico actually has a constitutional amendment spelling out how non-citizens are to be treated.
Now in that spirit, I’d be willing to talk about accepting those terms.
Article 9 Edit
Only citizens of the Republic of Mexico may take part in the political affairs of the country.[86]
6/24/18, 2:09 PM
My friend you confuse Mexican Nationals with Mexican Citizens. Illegal - Immigrants, residing in the USA or other countries, from Mexico, who have Mexican Citizenship can and do vote for the upcoming and past Presidential elections.
However, I think I understand your point but to what purpose?
AMLO the current front runner, in Mexico, recently said that when he becomes President of Mexico he will urge, in the strongest terms, that villages empty out a migrate to the USA. Aside from the obvious stupidity of pandering in politics, if this were to happen, it would hallow-out Mexico just like Venezuela. Leftists, are just too stupid to run countries, they destroy what made that country great.
sakredkow said...
A member of the party of Jim Crow, Eugenics, Slavery, Segregated public schools, Planned Parenthood, and Affirmative action claims moral authority on race.
You don't know anything about what party I belong to do you, chump?
It is obvious enough. You are an enemy of freedom.
Party affiliation doesn't matter.
They have no moral authority on matters of race.
Throwing out morals? MORALS?
How young are you?
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Not our first rodeo with that bs either.
Everything old is new again.
You care, sponsor a family. Get your friends and family to each sponsor a family.
Go fund you.
This about 2000 children, right? So maybe 1000 families?
Fix it. There aren’t that many families.
See, not complex.
But sponsoring means proving you can afford to be responsible for all their expenses for them for 5 years. No government help.
Voila. Problem solved.
But Bloomberg Because HE CARES would rather spend $80 million on elections. I thin $80 mil would solve this problem, don’t you?
“As soon as you actually denounce Peter Fonda, Hodgkinson, La Raza, BLM, Occupy Wall Street, The DNC, The Nation of Islam, Hillary and Bill Clinton, Barrack Obama, and all of the other criminals and mainstream democrat hatred seriously and apologize for your opportunistic amorality you can take a few years to prove you are a decent human being.
Ha ha! Did somebody actually say that? I missed it. All I can tell you is I'm not gonna denounce anyone because you think I should, and for sure I could care less and never expect you to denounce racism or any of your racist friends like Trump.
While there is racism on all sides, everyone with half a brain and a quarter heart can tell where the mainline is emanating from at the moment. "We cannot allow these people to invade our country!"
The jig is up on that crap.
“See, anybody who voted for Trump is the same as Langford Peel. So who is providing Peel oxygen, again?”
To this I’d suggest trying harder not to be like Peely.
You are an enemy of freedom.
Just on top of the racism, the wrongheadedness, the complete lack of empathy. You also get this childishness.
Of course I am like your racist uncles of the 1960's. They were smart guys. They were right. Everything that has happened since the 1960's proves the right.
So you can call me a racist all day long. That word has lost its power.
So Achilles I am not going to give an inch to political correctness.
Let me tell you something else. Every black person I have ever met has been racist to the marrow of their bones. Every real Asian be they Japs, Chinks or Gooks have been just as racist to the marrow of their bones. They have just been racist against white people.
I just want equal rights.
Who are you going to appeal to anymore with that? "You are an enemy of freedom!" Yuk yuk. You think young people like that stupidity?
That’s my point. No voting, no agitation. If that is good enough for Mexico, it should be good enuf for US right?
More lefty heads would explode.
Who are you going to appeal to anymore with that? "You are an enemy of freedom!" Yuk yuk. You think young people like that stupidity?
Enjoy your Chinese overlords.
I think that sakredkow has not yet crossed over into trolldom. That usually doesn’t happen until they realize that they have no arguments that can stand up against scrutiny, after that, unless they are complete idiots, the go the route of Beloved, and just make short, cryptic, and fact free comments so that refutations are like nailing Jello to wall.
Inga said...
I denounce Peter Fonda, now for the third time. I denounce Hodgkinson now for the umpeenth time. I’ve denounced Bill and Hillary many times. I denounce all extremist radical ideologies and lastly I denounce the devil!
Hallelujah!
Not enough you armoral bitch.
Obama spied on political opponents.
Occupy Wall Street called for ripping out the hearts of ICE agents.
Cynthia Nixon called ICE a terrorist organization.
BLM has killed numerous police officers.
Red Hen and several other progressive owned establishments have re-instituted Jim Crow.
Thousands of NYT readers, and you, agreed that Scalise deserved to be shot because he was a member of the NRA.
The DNC and Hillary campaign hired people to commit political violence at Trump rallies.
Oh yes, I denounce extremism as displayed by Achilles, he’s a very confused young man. I pity him and his family.
You are such a piece of shit.
Yup unclear on the concept.
If we have Chinese overlords it's because Trump gave away the store - and the Trumpistas cried hosanna.
We saw the same dynamic with Peanut Butters, who, after getting slapped around a lot, is now reduced to drive by easter egging comments so laced with irony that there is nothing to refute.
You are such a piece of shit.
Here's a hanky, tough guy.
Peasants: See, anybody who voted for Trump is the same as Langford Peel. So who is providing Peel oxygen, again?
Inga seems to enjoy his company, but afaics others rarely talk to or about him beyond mooting his moby status. He's at least as boring as Inga.
I usually just put 'em in the killfile and let them enjoy their little tryst. I troll Inga occasionally just to goggle at the Inga the Human Parrot sideshow, and for the salutary reminder of what the contemporary left has been reduced to.
Other than that, both smelly thread-cloggers.
If we have Chinese overlords it’s because Trump gave away the store - and the Trumpistas cried hosanna.
Details please, not just Daily Kos received wisdom. How did he give away the store? Was it by calling out Canada on bypassing tariffs by using cheap Chinese steel in products that they then swanned into the American marketplace and peddled as tariff free Canadian goods, native crafts of Joe Canada?
Your racist uncles said if you let them in they would ruin the neighborhood.
They did. They do. They always will.
Now they want to do it to the whole country. They want you to shut up. They want to imprison you like the English did to Tommie Robinson. They want you to not even be able to go out for dinner.
Your uncles from the 1960's would not take that shit. You didn't listen to them. This is the result.
Trump is just about the last chance before it comes to war to the knife.
Who are you going to appeal to anymore with that? "You are an enemy of freedom!" Yuk yuk. You think young people like that stupidity?
Yup you’re either definitely young or spent the last 20-30 years in a haze and just got woke.
No hun, that was Bubba and it also has to do with Chinese culture.
He must think you folks are really stupid.
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Langford Peel said...
“I just want equal rights.”
6/24/18, 2:26PM
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Langford Peel said...
“So I can throw gays out of my bakery and tell those brown people not to sit at my lunch counter.
I approve. Lets institute that as the law of the land. Segregation now....segregation tomorrow....segregation forever.”
6/23/18, 12:39 PM
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Langford Peel said...
“Just realize one thing. White supremacy is the only viable method of survival for a society.”
6/23/18, 2:21 PM
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the woman had abandoned three other children and a husband with a good job to come North. And the woman was dumb enough to pay $6000 to a coyote ...
And NOBODY is cynical enough to think that this woman might be.........ahhhh..........looking for a "good time" here in the US, right?
smelly thread-cloggers
You're too kind.
langford peel said...
Of course I am like your racist uncles of the 1960's. They were smart guys. They were right. Everything that has happened since the 1960's proves the right.
So you can call me a racist all day long. That word has lost its power.
So Achilles I am not going to give an inch to political correctness.
Let me tell you something else. Every black person I have ever met has been racist to the marrow of their bones. Every real Asian be they Japs, Chinks or Gooks have been just as racist to the marrow of their bones. They have just been racist against white people.
I just want equal rights.
Trust me I know how racist Asians are. I know how racist the rest of the world is.
Every human being is naturally racist. Especially the democrat party that was founded on and retains the core principal of racial division and tribalism.
Tribalism is rooted in thousands of years of human development. It is only natural that the globalists would exploit that.
But our country and our society is better. We were founded on the primacy of the individual.
Every person has a chance to be better than what they were born.
Treat people the way their choices dictate, not their skin color.
“Inga seems to enjoy his company, but afaics others rarely talk to or about him beyond mooting his moby status.”
Funny how the Buzzard spent hours yesterday defending what Peely was pushing, lol.
Segregation is happening. Look at college campuses. Balkanization and Identity politics.
This isn’t that hard.
And who’s it driven by? Progressives ! Cos that’s Progress!
And I don’t see how the status quo ante on the immigration policy, the one where bringing a child along amounts to a get out of jail free card, is any solution at all. When one changes the rules, the players adapt. The adaptation to the old policy was to bring a child across the desert at night.
Inga, don’t you have a flight to be on? You CARE!
sakredkow used to post here for many years as 'phx', whom, if memory serves, was kind of a dick too.
The God Emperor is winning against China. He will win the tariff war. He already is winning against the dirty Krauts. Now the Huns want to eliminate all tariffs on Autos. Just as the God Emperr offered. The Chinese will do the same. The North Koreans have changed the government propaganda to be pro US and pro unification. It is all proceeding to plan.
Soon enough the only Anti-American propaganda will be coming from the main stream media.
Soon enough the only Anti-American propaganda will be coming from the main stream media.
Like we haven't had a bellyfull of anti-American propaganda from the White House. Time to impeach and get that Russian out of the WH.
“Every human being is naturally racist.”
So should we embrace this side of ourselves? Or should we reject it and try to do better? Don’t join people who are trying to mainstream the uglier part of human nature, as the Buzzard did for hours on end yesterday.
Inga said...
He must think you folks are really stupid.
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Langford Peel said...
“I just want equal rights.”
6/24/18, 2:26PM
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Langford Peel said...
“So I can throw gays out of my bakery and tell those brown people not to sit at my lunch counter.
I approve. Lets institute that as the law of the land. Segregation now....segregation tomorrow....segregation forever.”
6/23/18, 12:39 PM
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Langford Peel said...
“Just realize one thing. White supremacy is the only viable method of survival for a society.”
Inga is an amoral bitch.
She is using your words to fight against freedom Peele.
Inga chooses to be an amoral piece of shit.
Black people don't choose to be black.
If they want to act like animals and be democrats and run around democrat controlled cities shooting each other they deserve to be shunned.
If they want to join the side fighting for freedom please for the love of god let them.
The troll-moby interaction here is fascinating.
"But our country and our society is better. We were founded on the primacy of the individual. "
Sorry but you are wrong my friend. You are not naive. You can not deny human nature. We have abandoned the founders vision. They envisioned a white Christain nation. The more we go away from that the more we go away from our founding principals.
That's why they want to tear down our statues and rewrite our history.
We are not better than anyone else. We are human and need to recognize that reality.
The trolls haven't discovered the other thread.
Keep posting nonsense here.
Now he has reverted to a troll. It always happens when they give these arguments that go over like free money on lefty websites where all opposition commentary is banned as soon as identified, but when facts and arguments that are studiously avoided on those sites are introduced, well, he had no choice but to go troll.
langford peel said...
The God Emperor is winning against China. He will win the tariff war. He already is winning against the dirty Krauts. Now the Huns want to eliminate all tariffs on Autos. Just as the God Emperr offered. The Chinese will do the same. The North Koreans have changed the government propaganda to be pro US and pro unification. It is all proceeding to plan.
Soon enough the only Anti-American propaganda will be coming from the main stream media.
He is destroying political correctness without providing aide and comfort to the enemy.
"Time to impeach and get that Russian out of the WH."
See, now you're just raving like a tantrum-throwing child. You're not even capable of having a rational discussion.
See, now you're just raving like a tantrum-throwing child. You're not even capable of having a rational discussion.
Trust me. I'm okay with any Trumpista who doesn't want to have a discussion with me.
Yeah, the point is to kill the blog.
Bwaaaaaa it’s just hilarious.
This stuff doesn’t stick for people who’ve actually paid attention for the past 30-40 years. SOS.
Trust me. I’m okay with any Trumpista who doesn't want to have a discussion with me.
Yes. We know. That’s because you might then be forced to deal with inconvenient facts.
None of my words are wrong Achilles. You yourself admit that Asians are utterly racist. You have real world experience and have to admit reality. I too have real world experience and can tell you everyone is racist. Only foolish whites believe in this kumbaya bullshit. Until they get mugged or raped.
Inga is not using my words to prove her points other than to the cucks who agree with her anyway.
Reality has to be stated in real ugly terms. Brutal but true.
Your racist uncles were right. Everything they predicted has come to pass. Everything the egghead kumbaya jerkoffs predicted didn't. I am not flying around n my jet pack but a guy in a dress with his dick out is welcome in the girls locker room. And if Curt Schilling calls it out he gets fired from ESPN.
So the time gorgeous polite euphemisms are over.
Yes, of course, it is simple. Chuckles would prefer "complexity" because that's what all bureaucrats prefer.
Wall. NO "STEM" immigrants. NO chain migration. DACA kids only--no parents.
We could add "shoot illegal crossers on sight," but that might get Chuckles all a-twitter, eh?
Inga: Funny how the Buzzard spent hours yesterday defending what Peely was pushing, lol.
If I were lacking in empathy I'd accuse you of lying, but I know you have profound language processing problems, so I make allowances for your handicap.
But as long as we're here:
Can you answer my simple question today? Had time to think about it, do some googling?
Is in-group preference in marriage, or other social arrangements, a tendency found only within a certain subset of white people?
"Yes", or "no".
I could probably rephrase it in simpler terms if you're having trouble understanding it. Maybe even add a few more options, like "none of the above", if you're feeling constrained.
When Trump made some foolish observations in the Presidential primary about ridding the country of our elitist judges and politicians, who are negatively affecting majority whites. He hammered against the lack of government intervention against illegal aliens and the effect that Democrat liberals were ruining America. His solutions, like his own mind, were over-simplistic and anti-social. Worse, he attracted new Republican voters who declared themselves as conservative populists following the unquestioned ability of a "successful" businessman. He talked tough and he talked mean and he talked in circles - spouting lies and big government solutions. Somehow his despotic rule outside our principles of Federalism was approved by the socialistic beliefs of our young and our under-educated. Finally, he took credit for conservative ideas by appointing a conservative justice and judges have convinced the world that "conservative populism" is not another name for New York liberal, a political position held by dishonest liberals in and around New York City.
What the Republican Party abandoned was "Reaganism" set firmly into "Ronaldus Magnus's" famous quote:
“Today,” he wrote in The Creative Society, “the leadership of the honorable party of Jefferson and Jackson has abandoned the dream of individual freedom, has lost its faith in the people’s ability to determine their own destiny, believes only in centralized government and an all-powerful state.”
Reaganism is embattled, yet survives. How could it not? The principles Ronald Reagan stood for as early as 1947, when he told Hedda Hopper that “Our highest aim should be the cultivation of freedom of the individual, for therein lies the highest dignity of man,” are as immutable as the principles of 1776.
"time to impeach..."
For what?
Be specific.
Poor gadfly. He is living In a dream world where Republicans actually support Reagans priorities.
Trump appoints conservative judges. He cuts taxes. He tries to get rid of nukes. All of the things Reagan stood for and did.
What does he have to do to gain your approval? Run guns to South America?
Are there any Contas left? I know Ortega is still in charge.
langford peel said...
Sorry but you are wrong my friend. You are not naive. You can not deny human nature. We have abandoned the founders vision. They envisioned a white Christain nation. The more we go away from that the more we go away from our founding principals.
That's why they want to tear down our statues and rewrite our history.
We are not better than anyone else. We are human and need to recognize that reality.
They want to tear down the statues and rewrite history because it points out that democrats/progressives supported and fought for slavery from the start.
I do not deny human nature. I have seen what the rest of the world is like. I have seen what the progressives want to happen here. I have seen the basest most disgusting shit tolerated by entire societies.
Humans are animals.
But individuals overcome it all of the time.
The reason I and the people who fight with me will win is because we believe in something better than what we were born as.
If you want to be on Inga's side so be it.
CBS News poll June 21-22 AFTER peak of family separation crisis:
Dem advantage *down* to four points on generic ballot.https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByV
Via Insty.
Peel says...
“Every human being is naturally racist.”
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Inga said...
“So should we embrace this side of ourselves? Or should we reject it and try to do better? Don’t join people who are trying to mainstream the uglier part of human nature.”
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Achilles says...
“Humans are animals.
But individuals overcome it all of the time.
The reason I and the people who fight with me will win is because we believe in something better than what we were born as.
If you want to be on Inga's side so be it.”
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Achilles is a very confused young man. How he can not see that I said first what he then said himself here is truly bizarre.
Go do better. Get on the plane.
Yeah. That's what I thought. You got nuthin.
sakredkow said...
Impeach Trump. NOW."
Dream on, goofy.
The story has things backwards. The border story arrived just in time to cover up the IG report which laid out that the Russia collusion story has always been a hit job. That story will still be there even if they don't cover it.
The lefties seem to have no inner time clock.
They spend a nice Sunday ranting about the windmills that defied Don Quixote.
The pool was nice.
Trump can reliably win the battle if it’s fought with words. But against images and descriptions of distraught and traumatized children and parents, Trump’s superpowers fail.
Oh, really, with 2014 Obama era's photos that the Fake Media refused to air then?
Now let's see the battering the press is taking.
To dust off an old expression, yeah, I consider and question the timing. On the heels of a long awaited IG report into massive political corruption at the FBI, and the absolute botch job aka the Clinton email investigation (with the given that yeah, it happened, and the law was broken) - and suddenly there is a barrage from multiple outlets, with striking almost journo-listic signs of coordination - of an issue simmering for literally years, and weeks after the judicial decision mandating the separations.
Rahm once said never let a crisis go to waste - which especially applies to manufactured ones.
One little girl in a fake montage may be a tragedy, but hundreds suffering and dead of thirst abandoned in the desert are a mere statistic, as someone pointed out.
Inga said...
Achilles is a very confused young man. How he can not see that I said first what he then said himself here is truly bizarre.
I know exactly what you are.
I know exactly what I am and what I believe. It is clear as day what we stand for and everyone else here gets it.
You just don't admit what you are.
And you are really quite stupid.
And you have no soul.
“Why do you support this man” (to Abraham Lincoln about Grant).
“He fights” (Lincoln’s answer).
"I've always said that the true test of whether you believe in liberty and freedom is whether you will defend the liberty and freedom of people who are not like yourself. Many Trump supporters fail that test completely"
Liberty and freedom mean that each person has the right to discriminate based on their own chosen criteria, and not be forced to use the criteria of others. So it is you, sinz, who does not defend the liberty or freedom of those who are not like your self.
I can support the rights of those who would choose to discriminate against me, so that means I do in fact support the rights of those who are not like me and don't like me. Unlike you, you dummy.
The problem with Jim Crow laws was that they were LAWS!!! The government was used to impose segregation and discrimination on everyone everywhere whether they wanted to participate or not. All they had to do was declare those laws unenforceable on the basis that people have the right to freely associate and disassociate as they see fit in their private lives and businesses, and then things would have sorted themselves out according to the wishes of the actual human beings involved.
The former US vice-president rejects Donald Trump's claim that he had any right to overturn the election.
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