"... Harper’s book subjects students of color required to read it to racial insult, the Kameetas said, while its white-savior motif portrays black characters 'as mere spectators and bystanders in the struggle against their own exploitation and oppression.' A more modern novel could be chosen that deals with the same racial issues in a more contemporary way, rather than one 'reinforcing the systemic racism embedded in the school culture and society,' the Kameetas said."
From "Monona Grove parents' request to remove Harper Lee book denied" (Wisconsin State Journal). Don't let the headline confuse you: The request was to remove the book as a required reading in a 9th-grade class, not to remove it from the library.
I think the argument against selecting this book — of all books — as the go-to reading about race discrimination is, in fact, very strong. I understand that schools defend their own choices and are dug in here, but the Kameetas made an excellent argument (as far as I can tell from this summary). The black characters are basically "spectators and bystanders." I think the book is also a problem because:
1. It's a rape story where the woman lies about rape. Why should the first thing children learn about rape be about the woman lying?
2. Rape is a complex subject, difficult for 9th graders to understand, and yet this rape story is cartoonish, in which the man is absolutely, unquestionably innocent. Why present a book as literature when it deals with this important subject in an absurdly unsubtle way, thoroughly subordinated to another subject the author is bent on telling (the outrageous accusation against an innocent man)?
3. Racial discrimination is also a complex subject, especially as it persists today, but the racial injustice shown in the book is so exaggerated that it allows a present-day reader to feel smugly distanced. Nobody we know is that over-the-top racist, so weren't those people back then terrible? That's not how high-quality literature is supposed to work on readers. They should need to question their own simplistic preconceptions.
4. It's not a subtle telling of the story of how courts work and how they might carry racial prejudice forward. The evidence of the man's innocence is so utterly obvious that you have a complete breakdown of justice. That doesn't begin to enlighten students about how there could be racial disparities in the justice system today. It invites them to sit back and think people in the past were crazy.
5. There is blatant stereotyping of the poor white family, and their problems are not treated as perhaps a consequence of poverty. They're treated as genetically deficient. They are truly the irredeemable deplorables.
6. There is great sentimentality about this book in the older generation. Having reread this book very carefully and written about it (in the Michigan Law Review, here), I hold the informed opinion that it is not a very good book and the practice of imposing on the younger generations — with endless pressure to regard it as a great classic — deserves serious, vigorous questioning.
March 2, 2018
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In the meantime, occupying precious mind-space on matters irrelevant to everything else, over one parochial, near obsolete matter. And in the process boring at least half the kids out of their skulls.
The good host of this site is elevating hope over experience that we have evolved all that much since To Kill a Mockingbird was published and the movie made. A secret of the TItle IX kangaroo courts is the racial disparity of accused young men. The Atlantic published an interesting article on the topic:
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/09/the-question-of-race-in-campus-sexual-assault-cases/539361/
In another study, 4.2% of undergraduates at Colgate were black men. Yet, they constituted 50% of all sexual assault allegations:
http://reason.com/blog/2017/09/14/we-need-to-talk-about-black-students-bei
It would be nice if To Kill a Mockingbird were an ancient anachronism. The cases we hear about are rich young white men (preferably in a fraternity) but the reality is much different. It is likely for the same reason we get wall to wall coverage when white people are murdered; when it happens to black people (especially in urban areas), the media yawns.
THere is still a lot we can learn from Harper Lee's book. We have not stopped sterotyping young black men as sexual predators. We have just gotten slicker about it.
"Hell of a thing to find entertaining."
Interesting. I find it entertaining too. Does entertainment require an uplifting or lighthearted subject for you? I know it does for my spouse. But dark subjects can be entertaining, and that doesn't mean one enjoys or supports those particular subjects. They can be presented in an artistic or thought provoking way. I find mediums that make me think entertaining, even if dark. In this case, the characters are not as cartoonish as you suggest. They are actually interesting compared to most modern fiction. My recollection was that Atticus even had flaws. The town itself was a great character too. It was a foreign world to a white Mormon (at the time) from the West, where we have near zero diversity is my high school. That in itself was entertaining.
But I do agree with much of your criticisms.
"But dark subjects can be entertaining, and that doesn't mean one enjoys or supports those particular subjects"
Poe, Lovecraft are great fun.
There are many fine novels by black and white writers from the modern period that can be read in high school that deal with racial issues.
I love Hurston’s “Their Eyes Were Watching God.” Wright’s “Black Boy,” and Ellison’s “Invisible Man,” as well numerous works by Faulkner
can also be good choices.
In the 60’s, I had high school juniors read Faulkner’s “Go Down Moses,” and they seemed challenged by it.
TKAM always seemed to me to be unchallenging, easy reading that was full of cliches and stereotypes.
How about 9th graders read Uncle Tom's Cabin? That's still a good book.
"1. It's a rape story where the woman lies about rape. Why should the first thing children learn about rape be about the woman lying?"
I assume that TKAMB would not be the first thing 9th graders learn about rape. 9th graders are 14. By that age, I not only knew about rape, I knew a girl who had been raped when she was in the 7th grade. Today's kids are less sheltered than I was.*
What TKAMB teaches is that is is possible to lie about rape, or any other crime, and not necessarily out of vindictiveness. Remember, Bob Ewell beat and bullied Mayella into lying about Tom Robinson. She's presented as a pathetic victim herself.
I loved - really loved- TKAMB when I read it in 8th or 9th grade. I didn't see the movie until I was in my 20's. I enjoyed Lee's rambling asides about the quirks of the townspeople. They made that town and world come alive for me.
I read it again a few years ago, and like many books I loved in my teens, it didn't hold the same magic for me, for some of the reasons you state. But it's more nuanced than you give it credit for. A Cunningham is among the lynch mob Atticus confronts - so he's a racist. But he also backs down when he is reminded of the kindness the Finches showed to his son.
"What is this crap about "connecting with their lives in present day America?"
I don't get that either. I didn't want to read all about people like me when I was a kid - I wanted to read about lives and worlds that weren't like mine. I kind of thought that was the whole point of reading. I've always thought the idea that children can only "connect" to books that mirror their little worlds is insulting and condescending.
*Actually, I think the first literary rape, or rather, the first literary rapist, I encountered was the child molester in "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn," who is shot by Francie Nolan's mother after he exposes himself to Francie. I read that book - another one of my teen favorites - in 8th grade. That novel, written in 1943, also had a slutty, but warm-hearted aunt who left condoms lying around for the kids to find, an alcoholic father and a young woman who is persecuted by the neighborhood harpies because she is an unwed mother. There are also very strong female characters in the novel, like Francie's mother, for instance. In addition to protecting her child with a gun, the mother works at menial jobs, is too proud to accept charity, and discourages her children from seeing themselves as victims, so clearly it's not a novel that connects with kids' lives in modern-day America.
Maybe we can reduce all of these recommendations to two books by Ray Bradbury.
Dandelion Wine, because the world is beautiful and mysterious.
and
Dark Carnival because the world is twisted and weird.
* * *
We won't have them read Farenheit 451. That's a kind of tedious book. We'll just give each kid a copy to burn themselves.
How about 9th graders read Uncle Tom's Cabin? That's still a good book.
Yes, but they'd have to edit out all the Christian sentiments.
We were assigned this book when I was in 4th grade. That would be 1964, the pre-Vietnam War years of the Civil Rights movement. Did I really read it? No. Did I understand what little I read of it? No.
But, it left an impression. And I came back to it many years later and read it more than once. And read parts of it over and over again. There is so very much more to TKAM than the social justice meme and the "cardboard" characters of the Ewells and the portrayal of the blacks (the blacks are spectators because that was their "place" in that setting and age).
The book is about courage and character and growing up. Growing up in a setting where adults do many good and bad things. Things kids understand imperfectly but better than adults give them credit for.
I can't say whether this book is great literature, but it was a great book to me. To say it's not appropriate for 9th graders is absurd. If any of them come back to it years later as I did, the requirement to read it will have been worthwhile. I think this is true of so much else in education.
Buwaya suggests there are many other books. There are always many other books, more than there is time to read and appreciate.
I just read it again. The rape part is minor, and not central to the book. Even, one might argue that Mayella Ewell was forced to make the account, or be beaten by her father. It is about a the guilt of a community of people and their condemnation of their fellow man. It's silly to make this ageless story about rape. To me, as I am no Christian, I'll say it louder and clearer. It's about the tyrannical nature of the mob against their fellow man.
The story also highlighted the finer aspects of some people.
Don't believe the same thing can happen today? It happened with the Duke Lacrosse players. I listened to one of the lawyers explain his father had protected blacks when it was dangerous to do so. Now, he protected whites, when that went counter to our bitter, white hating and self-loathing culture.
I saw it again in the Zimmerman trial, when even the government tried to railroad an innocent man. A good man protected him from the mob too.
I like stories like that, because it affirms in my mind that, despite the tremendous tyranny of men, there are truly good people in the world.
Flannery O’Connor when asked her opinion of TKAM replied, “it’s a children’s book”. She definitely saw life in the south as darker and more complex than Harper Lee. I think what was most enjoyable about TKAM was it’s sense of place. Readers felt they knew what it was like to live in Maycomb Alabama in the 1930s.
Ann asserts: "If you don't answer that, I will just presume that you do not remember how cartoonish the characterizations in the book"
I read it again, but not particularly carefully. What is cartoonish? Atticus Finch? Check out Michael O'Mara who defended George Zimmerman. He was the same kind of man.
Don't think mobs act like that? They do. I've seen it first hand. Heck, an entire nation persecuted the Jews in WW II. South Africa just voted its legal to take away the lands of whites without compensation, and the congress was dancing, reveling in their mob like abuse of the white farmers that feed SA (to the grave, if Zimbabwe is an indicator).
I don't get it. The book is true in its characterization of human beings.
https://basmanroselaw.blogspot.com/2017/06/final-thoughts-flawed-morality-in-to.html
I still maintain that C4 was a Moby.
Althouse,
"... or a high-quality young adult book that connects to their lives in present-day America."
This is clearly the dumbest thing you've written in months. The last thing anyone needs from literature is mirroring their daily life... but in our current narcissistic era the need to be taken out of and away from ourselves, to learn that people in other times and places sometimes did and thought differently from what we do--is even more desperately needed.
And the Henry makes this fascinating suggestion: "Don't have them read "1984" or "Animal Farm" but "The Road to Wigan Pier" instead." I would second that motion; what about you? I recall you've written against the dominance of fiction in literature...
Kirk Parker noted: This is clearly the dumbest thing you've written in months. The last thing anyone needs from literature is mirroring their daily life... but in our current narcissistic era the need to be taken out of and away from ourselves, to learn that people in other times and places sometimes did and thought differently from what we do--is even more desperately needed.
Althouse is no one's fool so I doubt she'd write something dumb...
...What suspect is that she very much wants a say in what isn't serious literature and that for some reason, TKAM cannot be considered as such in her eyes. I gave my reasons why in earlier comments.
To be honest, all I remembered from the first time I read the book as a kid, was the shooting exploits of Atticus Finch. Feeling like he wasted ammo if he missed once, shooting the rabid dog. Those were the main parts that came back to me when I read the book again as an adult. I believe I bought it through the Althouse portal, but I am not sure.
"Feeling like he wasted ammo if he missed once, shooting the rabid dog."
He had to shoot right since a miss would have gone into someone's home.
mandrewa said...
To Kill A Mockingbird is primarily a story about how a young girl perceived the world at a certain age. That girl only barely knew what rape meant. She is also not part of the black community, although she probably knows far more about black perspectives than most white people today because the woman hired to care for her was black.
I assumed when I read it a long time ago that this is all rooted in the author's own experience. And that the story she tells overlaps in some significant sense with her own childhood.
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I agree, mandrewa. Important to also realize that it was set in the 30s but written in the 50s, and published in 1960. My personal opinion is that the parlor room conversations had quite an impact on Harper Lee.
Atticus Finch is a stoic. Ann summarizes his role in society in the Michigan essay nicely. Second, I am not sure I see too many people any longer saying the book is great literature. I enjoy reading the book every time for its wonderful evocative writing (in every single sentence), but I understand that it's a fairy tale, more than anything else.
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