That's my theory, as I read — at Politico — "Trump escalates his war with U.S. law enforcement after memo release/The president hinted openly that he might yet fire senior officials over claims of bias against him."
What did Trump say that "hinted openly that he might yet fire senior officials"?
A reporter asked him if he's "likely to fire Rosenstein" and if he still had "confidence in" someone whose name I couldn't catch (maybe Rosenstein). And Trump just said "You figure that one out."
So the press takes that no-comment comment and runs with it, basically reporting on The Future. What might Trump do?
I was laughing about this last night as I tried to watch CNN. The Nunes memo had just come out, and the night before the memo came out, the talk had been about what might be in the memo, i.e., News of The Future. Once the memo was out, it was old news, because we'd already talked about what was in it, back when it was News of the Future. So the subject had to be who Trump will/will not fire in the coming Saturday Night Massacre.
Trump doesn't need to move a muscle. The media throw his weight around for him.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 545 Newer› Newest»Grab em by the pussy - must worse than Bill's Rapes, and Hillary's vilification of Bill's victims.
So your conservative son-in-law *does* have a pussy hat? Or is he "phobic"? You never know, Igna, might turn out he's Islamophobic too. Could be he's onto your plan, but he's playing it cool. Is there a substantial inheritance involved?
Hillary skates because of Comey and Strozk and all the other hacks inside a corrupted FBI.
Trump will be charged with a process crime.
Banana Republic.
Leftists celebrate.
Blackmailed by the Russians to do what?
If we're talking blackmail. The Pakistani guys who ran The House IT probably have more. Why don't we hear about that?
Normal Americans find the tweet MaxedOutMama linked to at Instapundit chilling.
Normal Americans with any sense or knowledge of history and human nature are frightened by the thought of a powerful and unaccountable government agency which exists to protect its own interests rather than the people it is supposed to serve.
Democrats were worried about the FBI back in the '70's, which is why the Church Commission was created. But that's when the FBI was going after radicals so it was a bad agency then. Democrats are fine with a police state and a Stasi as long as the targets are "deplorable."
Normal Americans understand the democrat party elite is corrupt. Wisconsin gave us clues.
The FBI has been a shitshow since Lew Erskine was forced out.
“Chuck- you are short and fat?“
Chuck is short and fat.
*I am a Narrative Engineer
Why would he lie (under oath)? How would that benefit him?
I really hate to be this blunt, Trumpit, but you couldn't possibly be stupid enough to ask such a question. That said, the only explanation is that you are openly lying through your teeth just to try to save your own political side of this.
Our young Hegelian displays his sparkling command of the dialectic by concluding that I'm both ignorant, and got to be kidding. It's a construction that his poor twisted Teutonic avatar would have shunned. Then again, reading Hegel with comprehension requires, how would you say, chops.
No kidding -- Trump won the election even though some counter-intelligence experts suspected he was something ranging from the dupe, to the stooge, to the witting agent of the Russian intelligence services. Ever since the election, Trump and Ann and some of her readers have decided that the real scandal is how Hillary Clinton not only sits at the head of an international criminal conspiracy, but is herself guilty of cooperating with the Russians, employing the sophisticated "I'm rubber, you're glue" defense.
Trump and Ann and some of her readers, standing strong to defend the civil rights of patriotic Americans such as Carter Page and Gen. Michael Flynn.
I want to thank MS for highlighting Rosenstein changing the title of the warrant from Title VII to Title I.
The leftists here are completely ignorant of what this means of course. This allowed the surveillance crew to go through all of Page’s multi-level CONTATCTS.
This effectively gave them access to not only everyone Page talked to, but everyone THEY talked to. Page was designated as a currently operating Russian Agent. Based on the dossier and the “corroboration” of the Isikoff article about the dossier.
The FBI/DOJ was spying on every member of the Trump campaign. Including Trump.
More is going to come out too. This is treason.
but you're happy when it's your man dismantling the checks & balances of Democracy!!
No one is dismantling any checks and balances of democracy, and anyone who thinks it's happening is a simpleton.
No one is dismantling any checks and balances of democracy, and anyone who thinks it's happening is a simpleton.
2/3/18, 2:37 PM
Well, I disagree with you there. The FBI leadership is trying to dismantle the checks and balances of democracy. Pickering is perfectly fine with that.
“The FBI/DOJ was spying on every member of the Trump campaign. Including Trump.”
For good cause. We don’t need Russian assets in seats of power in our American government.
Ann and some of her readers, standing strong to defend the civil rights of Carter Page and Gen. Michael Flynn, patriots.
I freely admit I'm one of those. These are men who were prosecuted and spied upon in an attempt to bring down a sitting president, based on a fake dossier and a warrant that shouldn't have been even granted.
Own it, lefties.
John Pickering said...
"Trump and Ann and some of her readers, standing strong to defend the civil rights of patriotic Americans such as Carter Page and Gen. Michael Flynn."
I don't know that we're "standing strong", but we certainly are sickened and disgusted at the way the Swamp has abused its authority and the immense resources with which we provided it to harass and persecute two fellow Americans who have done absolutely nothing wrong. Would you like to gloat over your victims some more, you wretch?
John Pickering would like us to all stop noticing the corruption of the Democrats and the top tier folks at the FBI and Obama's DOJ. Please and thank you.
You can only judge someone by their actions and not by the scenarios you make up in your head.
The premise of this post is that President Trump lives rent free 24/7 in the heads of the press that is the avowed enemy of the normal every day American.
President Trump said “What do you think?” They think he will fire Rothstein and Mueller. Just like he was going to fire Tillerson. And John Kelly. And Sessions. And all of the other people that anonymous sources said were going to fired in a fit of pique by the “narcissistic madman Donald Trump.”
Guess what? None of that happened. It is a big bunch of bullshit. The press made it up. Just the way they make up 99% of the news. None of it is facts. They are not interested in facts. Only the narrative presented by their masters. They are lapdogs.
The notion that President Trump is controlled by the Kremlin is ludicrous on its face. President Trump ended the war on American Energy. Something the corrupt Hillary would never do. She would not have approved the pipelines. She would not have allowed drilling on federal land. She would have shut down the entire coal industry. She would have propped up the economy of her paymasters in Saudi Arabia and the Russians who are vitally dependent on energy income. Trump took that away from Russia. He provided arms to the Ukraine that Obama never did in the eight years he betrayed our nation as the friend of the Muslim Brotherhood and Islamist's everywhere. Everything President Trump does is the opposite of what Hillary would have done and against the interest of Russia. Once again facts. Facts that are absent from the fake news. Because facts do not matter. Only their fever dreams.
Finally the base canard that President Trump and the normals who support him are Anti-Semitic when in fact it is the liberals and Obama who are truly Jew-haters. It is the left who are behind the anti-Israel boycotts. President Trump is extremely popular in Israel. So much so that they are naming things after him like a railroad station. What did they name after Barack Obama? Hillary Clinton? John Kerry? The locations where Muslims murdered Jews but we can’t talk about because we would be “creating terrorists” by calling Muslim terror by its correct name? Maybe there is a public toilet they can name after them because all they ever did is shit on the Jews.
Facts are stubborn things. Which is why the media, the left and the lifelong republicans ignore them.
Shorter Inga: Inga agrees that any corrupt spying on non-democrats is all good.
“I freely admit I'm one of those. These are men who were prosecuted and spied upon in an attempt to bring down a sitting president, based on a fake dossier and a warrant that shouldn't have been even granted.
Own it, lefties.”
And you people own putting Putin’s puppet in Office. When this is all said and done you Trumpists and Republicans won’t be able to live this down for decades.
Shorter Inga.
Clinton Russian Collusion is all good.
Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal
Private Server should have stayed private. Democrats are allowed to be creepy corrupt money-whores. shhhhhh it's a secret.
"We don’t need Russian assets in seats of power in our American government."
Then it's a very good thing that Trump won.
Who knows what "flexibility" Hillary promised to the Russians? You know, kinda like Obama promised Medvedev back in 2012 before the election . . .
That kinda "flexibility" gave Putin's cronies control over a fifth of our uranium, which is quite useful for making nuclear weapons and powering nuclear submarines and warships. Hillary also promised to curtail fracking, and Obama put vast amounts of American oil reserves in the "off-limits" category, both of which are things the Russians would love us to do.
Luckily, Trump wants to expand American energy dominance by drilling for oil, not only offshore, but in Alaska as well. Things like that make Russia quite unhappy. And Inga likes it when Russia is unhappy, so she ought to be cheering for President Trump. But cognitive dissonance is a pretty powerful force when one is as weak minded as Inga.
Wish-facts are real in the hivemind.
"Trump and Ann and some of her readers, standing strong to defend the civil rights of patriotic Americans such as Carter Page and Gen. Michael Flynn."
This is the same logic that says that whores can't be raped. Which would mean we need to ignore the whole #metoo movement because any woman who gave up sex once to get a part can never be raped by Harvey Weinstein or Woody Allen. Every young boy who was raped by Kevin Spacey or Brian Singer or Ryan Murphy was asking for it because they went into a room with them.
So every black gangbanger who committed a crime has no rights under the law as a citizen. No Miranda rights. No rights against self-incrimination. No civil rights because of who they are.
Because who you are determines what civil rights you have. That is of course the standard of liberals and ACLU. So it is not a big surprise.
Boy you are a shithead.
"Guess what? None of that happened. It is a big bunch of bullshit. The press made it up. Just the way they make up 99% of the news. None of it is facts. They are not interested in facts. Only the narrative presented by their masters. They are lapdogs."
Correct, Langford. And the hilarious part is they really thing they're being independent thinkers. Even as Inga cuts and pastes her talking points, as JP uses the same epithets and faulty reasoning over and over in his comments, as ARM makes the same tired and snarky remarks, they really think that they're the ones with insight.
The best comedy always contains an element of tragedy.
Our young Hegelian displays his sparkling command of the dialectic by concluding that I'm both ignorant, and got to be kidding. It's a construction that his poor twisted Teutonic avatar would have shunned. Then again, reading Hegel with comprehension requires, how would you say, chops.
A lot of purple prose, but really this just boils down to a knee jerk reaction to being told to look in the mirror. Don't like what you see, do you JP?
No kidding -- Trump won the election even though some counter-intelligence experts suspected he was something ranging from the dupe, to the stooge, to the witting agent of the Russian intelligence services.
Yup, the same "experts" who had to make up a dossier filled with fantasy so they could lie to a judge to use said dossier to spy on his campaign. To come up with the result they already believed. Or didn't. Either way, I'm not putting much stock into these experts anymore. And if you were smart, neither would you.
Ever since the election, Trump and Ann and some of her readers have decided that the real scandal is how Hillary Clinton not only sits at the head of an international criminal conspiracy, but is herself guilty of cooperating with the Russians, employing the sophisticated "I'm rubber, you're glue" defense.
You're the one propping her up here. Do I believe she knew all of this? Sure. But it's not because of being the head of some conspiracy, but because like all liberals (moreso in Clinton's case), she thought she was entitled to lead the country. It really is nothing more than that.
Trump and Ann and some of her readers, standing strong to defend the civil rights of patriotic Americans such as Carter Page and Gen. Michael Flynn.
Reread the prior responses, and if it gets through that skull of yours, you'll see why some of us really do think those two were being used as patsies in a bigger scheme. I won't hold my breath hoping this gets through, however.
“The notion that President Trump is controlled by the Kremlin is ludicrous on its face. President Trump ended the war on American Energy.”
What they wanted was for sanctions to be lifted and guess what, they got what they wanted. “Well give you the emails we hacked from the DNC if you lift sanctions, should you win.”
Conspiracy to violate the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act
And then to make matters worse...Obstruction of Justice
Inga wrote:
"And you people own putting Putin’s puppet in Office"
langeford peel has the best argument against such vicious stupidity:
"The notion that President Trump is controlled by the Kremlin is ludicrous on its face. President Trump ended the war on American Energy. Something the corrupt Hillary would never do. She would not have approved the pipelines. She would not have allowed drilling on federal land. She would have shut down the entire coal industry. She would have propped up the economy of her paymasters in Saudi Arabia and the Russians who are vitally dependent on energy income. Trump took that away from Russia. He provided arms to the Ukraine that Obama never did in the eight years he betrayed our nation as the friend of the Muslim Brotherhood and Islamist's everywhere. Everything President Trump does is the opposite of what Hillary would have done and against the interest of Russia. Once again facts. Facts that are absent from the fake news. Because facts do not matter. Only their fever dreams."
Inga, care to explain to us why a Putin puppet would adopt policies that directly hurt Russia's interest? We all look forward to reading your explanation.
And you people own putting Putin’s puppet in Office. When this is all said and done you Trumpists and Republicans won’t be able to live this down for decades.
That didn't happen. Trump is not Putin's puppet. Clinton was. Anyone who can't see that is delusional.
Can we have some actual proof that Trump is Poot's puppet?
We have proof Hillary set up a private server.
"What they wanted was for sanctions to be lifted and guess what, they got what they wanted. “Well give you the emails we hacked from the DNC if you lift sanctions, should you win.”
You are crazy. I'm serious. Trump has driven you insane.
Under Obama, we promised to curtail all sorts of energy usage as part of the Paris Climate Accords. Another thing that tickles Putin's fancy. Trump took us out of those accords, and Putin now has a sad face. Hillary would have kept us in, so thankfully she lost.
Under Obama, we were on the verge of unilateral reductions in nuclear arms. Putin was overjoyed at this news. Under Trump, we're striving to modernize our nukes and even build new ones to stay a step ahead of the Russkies and the ChiComms. Again, Putin isn't pleased.
But somehow Trump is a Russian stooge. Because Inga says so.
Under Obama, we rarely ever hit 3% GDP growth. Under Trump, growth is booming and manufacturing jobs are coming back.
Which one makes Putin happier, Inga? A strong American manufacturing sector, or an America that relies on trade for all our goods?
"And you people own putting Putin’s puppet in Office"
Once again flying in the face of the actual facts of President Trumps behavior once in office.
The fact of the matter is that Hillary and her supporters in the FBI colluded with the Russian intelligence to attempt to rig the election so she could win. Just the way she rigged the nomination with the aid of the press and the Democratic National Committee.
Facts don't matter only the fever dreams.
Liberals are just demented.
Blitzer and braindead McCain, who wanted his pal Hillary to win, are saying Trump is Putin's puppet. Hiveminders repeat it.
Wish-facts is realz!
You are crazy. I'm serious. Trump has driven you insane.
In fairness, exiled, the above is true for anyone who's defending the FBI's and the left's actions nowadays. Liberalism really is a mental disorder.
I just love it our beloved Inga brings a single incident and cast aspersions on the entire right-of-center electorate.
Inga, how about dusting off David Duke? He's been out of the public eye for several decades now, so he would fit your template for relevancy to the topic.
"Private Server should have stayed private."
I think all cons can agree w/ that. HRC shoulda only done State biz (incl selling out 'Murica to the commies and murdering political foes) on non-private servers. Keep her yoga poses and affair w/ Huma far away, on the private servers.
Peter Strzok and Lisa Page went too far the other way, they were a bit too personally chatty on the gov servers. They should have kept that stuff private, and only used gov servers for their secret deep state skullduggery re the destruction of DJT.
It's like that story about the chick and the three bears. The gal is looking for the just right bear, not to much, not to little. (No, this story isn't about Bachmann, I said 'bears.')
“I just love it our beloved Inga brings a single incident and cast aspersions on the entire right-of-center electorate.”
I just love how you folks would never dream of casting aspersions on liberals, Democrsts and progressives. How many times have you people mentioned the left and the Scalise shooting? Try not to be so blatantly hypocritical.
"Just the way she rigged the nomination with the aid of the press and the Democratic National Committee."
And look how indifferent the Democrats are to that. Hell, Old Man Sanders himself turned around and kissed Hillary's ass. Good Commies fall into line. The Party dictates, they obey. CNN and MSNBC come out with fact free spin that contradicts yesterday's fact free spin ("the memo is DANGEROUS! It must be suppressed!" "The memo is NOTHING!") and they obediently repeat it. Then they project their own sheeplike docility onto us.
Try responding to the comments above Inga. Explain to us exactly how, despite all the evidence to the contrary that has been mentioned, Trump is a Russian stooge. I'd love to hear it.
Blogger Inga said...
“Conspiracy to violate the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act
And then to make matters worse...Obstruction of Justice”
Explain with words how Trump did any of that given the facts that Podesta was Phished and the DNC was an inside job?
"Trump is a Russian stooge."
Refuses to implement sanctions he's legally required to implement. Putting Russia First! MRGA!
Duh.
"Phished - like with a pole and bait?" - Inga, probably.
“NBC News has exclusively obtained a six-page rebuttal to the Nunes memo from Rep. Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., the top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, which was to be circulated to all House Democrats on Saturday.
Given his senior position, Nadler is one of the small number of lawmakers who has viewed the highly-sensitive documents that are the basis of Nunes’ memo.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/democratic-rebuttal-calls-nunes-memo-deliberately-misleading-n844426
Six page Jerry Nadler rebuttal to Nunes’s memo
Kyzernick said...
Try responding to the comments above Inga. Explain to us exactly how, despite all the evidence to the contrary that has been mentioned, Trump is a Russian stooge. I'd love to hear it.
2/3/18, 3:06 PM
She can't. You're asking way too much of her. All she can do is sputter "the sanctions were lifted!!!!" and do some more cutting and pasting.
NBC News has exclusively obtained
How convenient for both Nadler and NBC. Did you read the rebuttal?
Nadler’s Memo rips Nunes’ Memo to shreds. I thought so, lol.
“How convenient for both Nadler and NBC. Did you read the rebuttal?”
Yes indeed I just did. It picks apart Nunes’s bullshit, point for point.
“Try responding to the comments above Inga. Explain to us exactly how, despite all the evidence to the contrary that has been mentioned, Trump is a Russian stooge. I'd love to hear it.”
Have you been living under a rock? Why hasn’t Trump enforced the new sanctions on Russia that the Congress passed overwhelmingly and he signed? You don’t think that’s strange?
"Nadler’s Memo rips Nunes’ Memo to shreds."
Well, the thoughtful con commenters here are going to logically see their error re being (again) jerked around by Nunnes. From now on they'll be less trusting--just because someone is an R--when only partial facts are available, that way they can avoid such mistakes when evaluating future situations.
JK.
"Refuses to implement sanctions he's legally required to implement. Putting Russia First! MRGA!"
Those sanctions would be less than a pinprick to the Russians. Trump is waiting on them for the simple purpose of giving the Russians pause and room to change their behavior. They're a bargaining chip on Syria, nothing more. Try harder kiddo.
You can't ask a demented liberal to respond to facts with a reasoned and coherent response.
It's beyond their capabilities.
We should be kind and ignore them until that much anticipated day when they die alone and are consumed by their cats.
“Well, the thoughtful con commenters here are going to logically see their error re being (again) jerked around by Nunnes. From now on they'll be less trusting--just because someone is an R--when only partial facts are available, that way they can avoid such mistakes when evaluating future situations.
JK.”
Hahaha, you had me going there for a split second.
Hump said: “I just love it our beloved Inga brings a single incident and cast aspersions on the entire right-of-center electorate.”
Our beloved Inga responds: "I just love how you folks would never dream of casting aspersions on liberals, Democrsts and progressives. How many times have you people mentioned the left and the Scalise shooting? Try not to be so blatantly hypocritical.
I have following this blog for a long time. I have yet to see the Scalise shooting used a response except as a rejoinder to a lefty decrying right-wing violence. You're such a fraud. You and Chuck (who comes in 5'6" 340).
"Nothing about the source of Steele’s
funding or his later opinions about Donald Trump
speak to the credibility of his work
, or its inclusion in t
he FISA application. "
Of course not!
In 2020 the North Koreans and Hezbollah are gonna be buying ads for DJT and hacking the Ds for DJT. And, they'll get some oligarchs to buy DJT condos and memberships and so on. Their newly passed sanctions were put into effect by the DJT admin. Now, these evil doers see how Russia paid off DJT so he'd avoid implementing the law that requires sanctions against them.
Where did Trump get loans when American banks wouldn’t lend him money? Why all the cozy connections to Russian Oligarchs? Or have you not heard a word about this either? Living under s rock is what lizards do.
Eh, the blind ignorance of Trumpists isn’t even worth trying to correct. Waste of my time.
Inga said: "Nadler’s Memo rips Nunes’ Memo to shreds. I thought so, lol."
Speaking of 5'6" 340.
"The Nunes memo makes a point of stating that
a number of
officials, including Deputy
Attorney General,
“signed one or more FISA applications on behalf of DOJ.” Because Attorney
General Jeff Sessions is recused from any investigation related to the 2016 campaigns, Deputy
Attorney General Rosenstein directly over
sees the Special Counsel’s investigation. The Deputy
Attorney General has become a target for those attempting to
interfere with that investigation.
President Trump has refused to rule out using the Nunes Memo as pretext for dismissing the
DAG. “You fig
ure that one out,” he said when asked about the Deputy Attorney General on
Friday. "
Wow..tweaking up to the last minute. Narrative!!
More information will be divulged in the coming weeks. The Democratic partisan response. The inspector Generals report.
The stubborn facts remain that the civil rights and rights to privacy of American Citizens were violated based on phony documents ginned up by an opposing party and courrpt FBI agents.
We already know that is just fine with the demented liberals who post here.
Let's find out how the rest of Americafeels about it.
We opened the spigots. Why do we need sanctions against Russia?
Inga: "Hear, hear! Carter Page, Flynn, Manafort, Don Jr., Kushner and Trump himself have proven themselves to be such American patriots, the bigglyest ever."
Interesting.
How much patriotism does one have to "prove" to earn ones constitutional rights?
Barack Obama called a deserter a hero who served honorably, even though that guy essentially deserted and helped the taliban kill US soldiers.
Jane Fonda gave active support to our enemies in a time of war. An enemy allued with the Soviet Union against us.
Did they forfeit their rights? Are they "patriots"? The Lefties think so.
It would ve helpful to know what the Lefts/LLR's rules for today are.
“ I have yet to see the Scalise shooting used a response except as a rejoinder to a lefty decrying right-wing violence.”
So you’ve never read, Vance, Achilles or Drago’s comments, huh? Convienient amnesia.
“Inga said: "Nadler’s Memo rips Nunes’ Memo to shreds. I thought so, lol."
Speaking of 5'6" 340.”
Trump 6’ and at least 275. “239”, lol!
Besides they just took out a jihadi convoy in Syria.
Nadler's memo is horseshit. Let's see:
To their first point, we know that without the dossier, there would have been no FISA authorization. If the dossier wasn't an important piece of "evidence", it would not have been used as justification for enhanced wiretapping. So that first point is destroyed pretty swiftly. Their first point also relies on believing that Obama's DOJ, operating under Loretta "Tarmac Meeting" Lynch, was on the level. This claim is patently false and serious people know it to the bone.
Their second point, that Steele is a Russia "expert", is heavily reliant on the following claim, to wit: " the Nunes memo does not provide a single shred of evidence that any aspect of the Steele dossier is false or inaccurate in any way." Yet we KNOW that much of the evidence in the dossier is in fact quite false, in some cases hilariously so. The few things in there that are true are totally inconsequential and do nothing to support the claims of collusion. Nothing. Even James Comey referred to the memo as "salacious and unverified", and whether he was speaking of only certain portions or the whole thing (and the case can be made either way), the fact remains that this point is irrelevant. The memo doesn't NEED to prove that the dossier is false - that wasn't the point of the memo to begin with - because ALREADY KNOW that most of the dossier was false. So, "expert" or not, Steele's dossier was a load of shit. Experts can lie too.
The third point they raise is that "Trump better not fire Rosenstien because the memo doesn't make the case for it". Okay, fine. Plenty of other instances of lies and malfeasance on Rod Rosentien's part provide ample pretext for firing him, and the fact is that he serves at the pleasure of the president, who may fire him at any time for any reason, including whether or not he likes the color of his tie that day. So, this point is 100% moot.
The fourth and final point raised is nothing more than a partisan attempt to cast aspersion on the House GOP. It's nothing but invective and tantrums.
So yeah, in Inga's world, that's a slam-dunk.
For the rest of us, read it yourself and laugh, because that's really all the Democrats are good for these days.
Nadler saw the FISA warrant in question, Nunes did not. Think about that before you open your mouths.
Walter,
I caught that too. Clearly they rushed the Nadler Nothingburger out, because it's pretty shoddy and really drives home how desperate they are to divert attention. The Democrats are upset that the memo doesn't say things it was never going to say, like how we all know that the Steele dossier contained falsehoods or how it doesn't give Trump the ammo he needs to fire Rosenstein. But neither of those were necessary for the Nunes memo to still be damning - and damning it is.
Citizens have rights regardless of their behavior. A criminal has civil rights until such time as he is convicted in a court by a jury of his peers. Even then he still has rights.
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton do not believe that. Which is why they weaponized the IRS, the FBI, the Justice Depatment the federal regulatory bureacracy against their political opponents.
Most normals do not think that is right. They think citizens have civil rights and a reasonable expectation of privacy no matter what party the belong to or who they voted for President.
Hopefully Rand Paul can leverage this into getting some protection for Americans privacy rights.
Besides what difference, at this point, does it make?
J. Edgar' s blackmail files, wiretapping MLK, COINTELPRO, Ruby Ridge, Waco, the Forensic Lab, Whitey Bulger, #FISAAbuse...
...and we're supposed to trust the same people with the legal writ to use lethal force, asset forfeiture and electronic surveillance against citizens with no accountability to the Executive or Congressional oversight?
Time for another Church Commission.
I agree. I would like to see a Senate Committee chaired by Senator Rand Paul.
I would however ask that he receive police protection to avoid another Democratic attempt on his life. Not the Secret Service. Maybe Blackwater or some other contractor. Or in a pinch beat cops. Honest men not tainted by the Swamp.
I dunno, Inga, for a 71 year old, Trump has an undeniably high energy level. His campaign schedule would have worn out many men half his age. Whatever his weight is, it doesn't seem to be slowing him down.
Whereas fat-assed Hillary barely campaigned, although she went to a lot of fundraisers. The old crone might fall over walking to her car, but she perks up whenever she can get her talons on some cash.
He campaigned like hell. She didn't. She lost. The Democrats said: Let's blame the Russians instead of our shitty candidate!
I would however ask that he receive police protection to avoid another Democratic attempt on his life. Not the Secret Service. Maybe Blackwater or some other contractor. Or in a pinch beat cops. Honest men not tainted by the Swamp.
2/3/18, 3:43 PM
I think hiring Blackwater is a very good idea. The media are now openly urging violence against Trump and the Republicans.
"Ann and some of her readers, standing strong to defend the civil rights of Carter Page and Gen. Michael Flynn, patriots."
Can you elaborate on your argument that people you don't like should be stripped of their constitutional rights, JP?
Trey Gowdy has seen and read the application. Nunes left that to him because his legal background would provide him a stronger understanding of what was in there to begin with.
"Second, there is already a well
-
established body of law dealing with allegations that
“material and relevant information was omitted” from the application to the court
—
and,
in the
case of Carter Page, that law appears to fall almost entirely on the side of the government. In
Franks v. Delaware
(1978), the U.S. Supreme Court held that a court may
only
void a search
warrant if the government “
knowingly and intentionally, or w
ith reckless disregard for the truth
,”
included false information or excluded true information that was or would have been critical to
the court’s determination of probable cause.
The Nunes memo
allege
s nothing that would
even come close to meeting this standard."
--
Ah..so are we entering into a Comey/Lynchy word meaning spin re "reckless"?
"Can you elaborate on your argument that people you don't like should be stripped of their constitutional rights, JP?"
He needs to research some DNC talking points, but he'll be back with a cogent response any time now. Be patient.
Inga said: "Nadler saw the FISA warrant in question, Nunes did not. Think about that before you open your mouths."
For the past few weeks, your side, the commie-pinko dems, have whined, complained and screamed NATIONAL SECURITY, NATIONAL SECURITY as a reason to prevent the memo's release. The credibility from the left evaporated with the release of the memo.
Yeah, I trust Nadler as far as I could throw him (and Short/Fat Chuck).
"We don’t need Russian assets in seats of power in our American government."
Thank goodness the beneficiaries of the Russians' Uranium One bribes and the Clinton Mafia Crime Family Foundation's influence peddlers and..money launderers were repudiated on Election Day.
Inga: "Nadler saw the FISA warrant in question, Nunes did not. Think about that before you open your mouths."
And why did Nunes not read the actual FISA warrant?
Because the Justice Dept negotiated a deal with the House Intelligence Committee that only one member of the republican committee caucus could view the actual warrant.
The republicans chose to send the most experienced prosecutor from the republican side, and that was Trey Gowdy.
Gowdy states publicly that the House Intel Memo is accurate relative to the underlying documents.
Of course, if you rule out funding source and stated bias, "Omission? What omission?"
@walter. Stay away from the "return" key on your keyboard.
"I would like to see a Senate Committee chaired by Senator Rand Paul.
"The Paul Commission". Not as punchy as "Senate Select Committee" but I like it.
Can you elaborate on your argument that people you don't like should be stripped of their constitutional rights, JP?
2/3/18, 3:49 PM
Pickering also thinks the FBI has the right to choose the president, not the people. The people might get it wrong and the FBI can't allow that.
He's quite the little authoritarian.
I'd say more leftists need to watch "The Lives of Others" but Inga and Pickering would identify with the Stasi, not their victims. After all, why would the government have singled them out if they had done nothing wrong?
"Eh, the blind ignorance of Trumpists isn’t even worth trying to correct. Waste of my time."
This is Inga-speak for, "No, of course I cannot explain why Trump's plan to increase American energy production, boost American manufacturing, improve America's aging nuclear arsenal, and strengthen America's economy would be beneficial to Putin.
Of course I realize that Putin would love for a president to let our nukes rust, let our oil and fracking potential go untapped, and let our economy stagnate through myriad wasteful social programs and misallocated government spending - all things Hillary promised to do.
I also cannot even begin to explain away Obama's comment about flexibility to the Russians or Hillary's role in selling our uranium rights to the Russians, nor can I truly grasp how Bill Clinton being paid mucho dinero for a speech in Moscow somehow reflects poorly on Trump. So I'll feign an air of intellectual superiority and weariness at dealing with all those who've confronted me with my logical inconsistencies, because in truth I'm just not that smart".
I should create an Inga-translation machine for times like this. I think it would be very helpful as an optional plugin for our internet browsers, so we could see what Inga really means when she bleats like the stuck swine she is.
I'd call her a "running dog" but A) that's a phrase only Commies use and B) dogs at least have a purpose and act in good faith.
“Trey Gowdy has seen and read the application. Nunes left that to him because his legal background would provide him a stronger understanding of what was in there to begin with.”
Yes indeed and guess what Gowdy had to say?
“I have been and remain confident in the overwhelming majority of the men and women serving at the FBI and DOJ.
As I have said repeatedly, I also remain 100 percent confident in Special Counsel Robert Mueller.”
Inga: "What they wanted was for sanctions to be lifted and guess what, they got what they wanted. “Well give you the emails we hacked from the DNC if you lift sanctions, should you win.”
Fake quotes again.
Well, if LLT Chuck isnt around someone has to pick up the fake quotes load.
Humperdink said...@walter. Stay away from the "return" key on your keyboard.
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Sorry..copying from the pdf causes that. I'm assuming folks can figure it out.
And let's not forget Strozk, who texted his illicit paramour that he saw no evidence of collusion and no chance to stop Trump based on that precept, and also Van Jones and others in the media (who have probably seen far more leaked documents than they've actually published) admitting that the Russia story was a "nothingburger". Talk about a statement against interest!
But to Inga, that all spells only one word: RUSSIA!!!!!1!!!1!!!!!!!
“Fake quotes again.”
Sweetie, it was posted in a way that one could imagine how a quid pro quo could’ve been discussed in a very simplified manner... so you can grok it. It was not meant to portray something that was overheard when they were being “bugged”, duh.
Inga, Gowdy also said that the memo "raises serious concerns with the FISA process". He's angling for a job in the DOJ (I'd lay bets on AG), so he has to appear above the fray. In the background, he's building a case against Clinton cronies, and I cannot wait to see him unleash pure Hell!
We need to do away with the FISA courts and the unlimited spying on American Citizens. What we get in return is not worth it.
“And let's not forget Strozk, who texted his illicit paramour that he saw no evidence of collusion and no chance to stop Trump based on that precept, and also Van Jones and others in the media (who have probably seen far more leaked documents than they've actually published) admitting that the Russia story was a "nothingburger". Talk about a statement against interest!”
Let’s not forget Strzok was actually the one who wrote the statement that Comey read to the Congress telling them the FBI was reopening the investigations into Clinton’s emails, days before the election. Just how biased was he in favor of Clinton? LOL!
Kyzernick said:
"Inga, Gowdy also said that the memo "raises serious concerns with the FISA process"
Ah, the same tool who was parroting the Leftist line about "cherry-picking"yesterday did a bit of selective editing herself.
"He's angling for a job in the DOJ (I'd lay bets on AG), so he has to appear above the fray. "
This was explained to her yesterday - several times, like the way you explain things to a mentally challenged child. Maybe we need to type slower.
I doubt that Inga will be quoting Gowdy for much longer.
"I dunno, Inga, for a 71 year old, Trump has an undeniably high energy level. His campaign schedule would have worn out many men half his age. Whatever his weight is, it doesn't seem to be slowing him down.
Whereas fat-assed Hillary barely campaigned, although she went to a lot of fundraisers. The old crone might fall over walking to her car, but she perks up whenever she can get her talons on some cash."
Did Inga deflect to Trump's weight and waistline? I must have missed that, but I can't say I'm surprised. Exiled raises some great points here. I'll just add that Hillary's cankles can't even support her walking up stairs anymore, so if we are really gonna compare the health of these two candidates, Trump comes off looking like Tom Brady to Hillary's Tiny Tim.
Strozk only wrote that note because he had too. You forget that he and others at the FBI had been sitting on the knowledge of those emails residing on Weiner's laptop for weeks, if not months, before taking action. And he clearly did not want to do it - but he knew that it would be discovered eventually. So close Inga, but like always, so so far.
“Did Inga deflect to Trump's weight and waistline? I must have missed that, but I can't say I'm surprised. Exiled raises some great points here. I'll just add that Hillary's cankles can't even support her walking up stairs anymore, so if we are really gonna compare the health of these two candidates, Trump comes off looking like Tom Brady to Hillary's Tiny Tim.”
No, I responded to this:
Blogger Humperdink said...
Inga said: "Nadler’s Memo rips Nunes’ Memo to shreds. I thought so, lol."
Speaking of 5'6" 340.
2/3/18, 3:26 PM
Inga, care to explain to us why a Putin puppet would adopt policies that directly hurt Russia's interest? We all look forward to reading your explanation.
Speak for yourself, please. I have no interest in reading that fevered bint's ignorant stupidity.
“So close Inga, but like always, so so far.”
Your opinion only, lol.
Your opinion only, lol.
2/3/18, 4:14 PM
No, the opinion of just about everyone who reads this blog, lol.
Inga said: "Gowdy said: I also remain 100 percent confident in Special Counsel Robert Mueller.”
If my next stop was to replace Sessions as AG, I would say they same thing. The august senators would not confirm him otherwise. Long range thinking not your strong suit?
“Inga, care to explain to us why a Putin puppet would adopt policies that directly hurt Russia's interest? We all look forward to reading your explanation.”
“Speak for yourself, please. I have no interest in reading that fevered bint's ignorant stupidity.”
Then go the fuck away you ignoramus and crawl back in the hole skittered out of, you retarded newt. If you can’t post anything more substantive than insults, you have no business here.
“No, the opinion of just about everyone who reads this blog, lol.”
Not impressive, lol.
If my next stop was to replace Sessions as AG, I would say they same thing. The august senators would not confirm him otherwise. Long range thinking not your strong suit?
2/3/18, 4:16 PM
As I said yesterday, it's easy to see Inga has never played chess.
More on Strozk and his feelings about the reopening of the Clinton email investigation, subsequent to the discovery on Weiner's laptop . . .
"Strzok did, however, harbor reservations about Comey making a public announcement just days before the election and sent a text message to that effect, two sources said. And Strzok's text messages provided to Congress show him grappling with the fallout of making the letter public, according to a CNN review of his texts.
Two sources who reviewed the text messages between Strzok and Page said they exchanged messages on November 6, when Page said she didn't know if they should issue a public statement, which Strzok agreed with. The two did not describe which statement they were referring to, but that same day, Comey sent another public letter to Congress to close the Clinton email investigation -- just two days before the election."
So, Strzok didn't want to make a public announcement, and probably only co-wrote the letter because he was ordered to. Not exactly a conscientious act, but rather a "gotta do this to keep my job" act.
Let's not forget that he changed "gross negligence" to "extremely careless" in the first exoneration announcement made by Comey, in an effort to salvage the Clinton campaign - since gross negligence is the standard for prosecution.
Yeah, there's no doubt which side Strzok was on. He made it clear as day. But Inga apparently has 20/400 vision, so she needs it even clearer than that.
Maybe Althouse should do a poll on the question: Is Inga a hopeless idiot?
I know which way the cat would jump on that one, lol.
"Long range thinking not your strong suit?"
Any form of thinking, if we're being honest.
“Maybe Althouse should do a poll on the question: Is Inga a hopeless idiot?”
Maybe Althouse should do a poll on the question: “How much of a psycho bitch is Exiled?”
How long were you on that thread last night arguing with Ritmo, who told you exactly what you are, 3AM? LOL.
I like how the argument swings from "Biased? How dare you think such a thing of the incorruptable FBI! They didn't pick sides!" to "Well,yeah, they picked a side, but hey, it was the right side to pick."
It kinda reminds me of how the Palestinians say Hitler never killed any Jews, but if he did, he had good reason to.
If Inga & her like-minded blogger LLR keep bringing up Trump's fitness, I will respond. And enjoy doing it. Just like Trump - counter punching.
Considering the other election choice was Felonious von FaintingSpell, you would think these characters would stay away physical attributes.
So what? I wasn't tired. Why don't you ask Ritmo why he was up until 3 am arguing with me? He does that sort of thing a lot more than I do.
Yeah, if anybody can be counted on to give a coolly objective and rational assessment of others, it's our Ritmo.
Ritmo is hopeless. Never has someone typed so much only to say so little. And he hasn't been original in his thinking or his insults in about six months. A true casualty of TDS if I ever saw one.
Inga just throws shit against the wall and hopes that something sticks. Thus, the volume of posts that sound like an eighth grader taunting another adolescent.
I will give her credit for not being as intentionally dishonest as ARM. Her errors tend to be due to flaws in reasoning and knowledge, along with a strident commitment to the Democrat Party. ARM simply lies and shrugs it off because someone once told him he is smarter than everyone else.
The leftists cannot justify Obama/Hillary spying on political opponents.
So now everyone who says that Obama/Hillary spying on political opponents is wrong is a Russian stooge.
They think this is a winning strategy. Tucker had a Dem congressman on his show and every time Tucker asked him to comment on the specifics of the memo the Congressman accused Tucker of being a Russian stooge and wouldn't shut up.
You people are taking a long walk off a short pier. And you are doing it all by yourself.
Ritmo was vicious to Michelle Dulak Thomson in that thread yesterday, and she is one of the milder commenters here. I mean, you really have to be frothing at the mouth mean to get nasty with her.
But hey, it wasn't a good week for Dems. May they have many more bad weeks.
Some of Ann's readers, standing shoulder to shoulder with her in defense of the civil rights of Carter Page and Gen. Michael Flynn, say those men are patriots and have done nothing wrong, nothing even worth being investigated. One way to remedy this libtard insanity is to hire Blackwater as a personal bodyguard to ward off assassination attempts on Rand Paul.
Trouble is, Gen. Flynn pleaded guilty in December to lying to the FBI about his contacts with foreign officials and added at the time that he was cooperating with Mueller. It's of course a terrible shame that this patriot should have been coerced by the deep state into a guilty plea, but there you have it. Flynn has pleaded guilty, the deep state has swallowed him, and he and his lawyers haven't been leaking anything. Goodness knows what lies his interrogators will extract in their diabolical plot against Donald Trump, so unfairly maligned. What can be done?
Flynn's sentencing has been delayed while the Mueller probe rolls on. Outrage alert: it's possible that Gen. Michael Flynn, in the crisis of his life, may remember the oath he took to defend the Constitution and turn state's evidence against Donald Trump, dupe, stooge or witting agent of the Russian intelligence services.
What can be done?
Look at all of Inga and adSs's posts above.
They can't comment on the specific fact that Rosenstein used a democrat oppo document to upgrade Carter Page from a Title VII counter intel target to a Title I counter intel target.
They cannot comment on the fact that this allowed the DOJ/FBI to wiretap everyone in the Trump campaign.
Rosenstein is freaking out right now.
The left when confronted with specifics accuses all of their opponents of being Russian stooges.
This is not going to end well for you.
"ARM simply lies and shrugs it off because someone once told him he is smarter than everyone else."
His mirror tells him that each and every morning.
JP, trouble is, what we know about the judge that Flynn pled to means that rather than being sentenced, Flynn is likely to claim bias against him in the courts and skate completely, because his FBI interview was contrived under false pretenses to begin with. But please, keep beating that dead horse. You realize that nothing you say has any discernible substance when given more than about 3 seconds of thought, right?
If not, that's pretty #SAD.
John Pickering said...
Trouble is, Gen. Flynn pleaded guilty in December to lying to the FBI about his contacts with foreign officials and added at the time that he was cooperating with Mueller.
The FBI lied to Flynn and told him they just wanted an interview and that he didn't need a lawyer.
They also didn't tell him that they had illegally recorded his phone conversations and unmasked him.
Then they asked him dozens of questions and one of them was different than the recorded phone calls he didn't know they had.
Not a single person on this planet would have been able to get through that situation without "lying" at least once.
You people are pieces of shit.
Apparently this thread has gone very badly for the right wing trolls since I am being slandered here and I never said a word.
“The FBI lied to Flynn and told him they just wanted an interview and that he didn't need a lawyer.
They also didn't tell him that they had illegally recorded his phone conversations and unmasked him.
Then they asked him dozens of questions and one of them was different than the recorded phone calls he didn't know they had.”
Achilles knows this stuff, he gets its from some of the very best conspiracy theory sites on the internet!
Beetle juice Beetle juice Beetle juice!
“Apparently this thread has gone very badly for the right wing trolls since I am being slandered here and I never said a word.”
I don’t take their shit anymore, I’ll happily rip them a new asshole if need be. No blog rules, free for all apparently. OK, with me.
Me and Trey agree on this:
"As I have said repeatedly, I also remain 100 percent confident in Special Counsel Robert Mueller. The contents of this memo do not - in any way - discredit his investigation."
Bwaaaaa
Good no more whining from you.
“The FBI lied to Flynn and told him they just wanted an interview and that he didn't need a lawyer.
They also didn't tell him that they had illegally recorded his phone conversations and unmasked him.
Then they asked him dozens of questions and one of them was different than the recorded phone calls he didn't know they had.”
Achilles knows this stuff, he gets its from some of the very best conspiracy theory sites on the internet!
Prove its wrong.
It'll be easy.
Rand Paul would need private cecurity because the courrpt and incompenr Secret Service would lose their guns to a hooker.
It is axiomatic that liberal fanatics believe that republicans have no rights.
Correct me if I am wrong but has Carter Page been convicted of anything even after years of trashing the Constitution to get him?
Damn right we stand with American Citizens and their rights under the Constitution.
That bothers the libs because the Constittion is just a rag created by old white men. I mean that was from 200 years ago dude.
“Prove its wrong.”
Prove it’s right.
Snap shit now and get busy.
Male version of Inga isn't taking any shit from anybody:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X9E9n6GHC8
Sorry for the typos. Iphone
ARM: "Apparently this thread has gone very badly for the right wing trolls since I am being slandered here and I never said a word"
I am unable to defend you in this circumstance until you abide by another of Inga's many new rules: You must present your Patriotism bona fides.
If you are unable or unwilling to do so, then not only can you be slandered, you can be spied upon by the govt.
I hope, for your sake, you are able to provide evidence which proves your patriotism.
We anxiously await such evidence, lest you be lost within the coming Gulag Archipelago of those who cannot adequately meet their requirements as Citizens in this new Peoples Republic.
Inga said...
Achilles knows this stuff, he gets its from some of the very best conspiracy theory sites on the internet!
Inga knows that Obama told the Russian ambassador he would have more flexibility after the election.
Inga knows that Hillary took $145 million dollars from Russians.
Inga knows the DNC "hack" was an inside job.
Inga knows Trump is the real "Colluder" and all of her rantings about Russians are actual conspiracy theories.
She is just a morally debased partisan hack who is a fan of Stalinism and supports selective application of the law.
The FBI could have thrown Hillary, or McCabe, or Rosenstein, or Obama, in jail 1000 times over if they applied the same tactics to them that they applied to Flynn. You know it is true. You just don't care.
It is part of being a Stalinist.
Here is the official Offense(s) committed by Flynn.
Feel free to discuss.
Feel free to let us know how it pertains to collusion with Russia and how how Russian bots tricked us on Facebook with lies about poor honest Hillary.
Blogger Jupiter said...
Chuck said...
"If somebody asked me if I hoped that the President will be indicted and then impeached, I know how I would answer; “You figure it out."
Chuck, you have claimed, multiple times, that you voted for Trump, because the alternative was unacceptable. Nothing about the alternative has become any more acceptable, but you now imply, and give evidence, that you hope the President will be indicted and impeached. Is it possible that when you claim to have voted for Trump, you are lying? Why would you do that, Chuck? Why would you spend hours every day, pretending to be something you are not on Althouse blog? Who do you work for, Chuck?
Boy, would I like to have you, under oath
Do I really need to inform you, that the impeachment of Trump (which I’d like to see, but which I am not expecting or predicting) produces a President Pence Administration. It does not produce a Democrat/Hillary Administration.
I voted for Trump, to avoid a Democrat/Hillary Administration. It’s just a pity, that those were the two options. There is nothing inconsistent or illogical about my voting for Trump to block Democrats, all the while loathing Trump personally.
I don’t have the faintest idea, given all that I have written, why you’d have the nerve to call me a “liar” based on your own presumptions about what my own beliefs are. WTF? I must say; the notion that you think I am a “liar” means nothing to me since I think you’re a dumbfuck.
As for who I work for: it’s none of you goddamn business.
There are so many new rules to learn these days.
The FBI/DOJ/NSA/CIA etc are no longer parts of the Executive Branch (Sorry you old Constitution you!)
The FBI/DOJ/NSA/CIA etc are no longer subject to oversight by the Congress (Sorry you old Constitution you!)
American citizens must prove their patriotism levels are adequate to "earn" their constitutional privileges (Sorry you old Constitution you!)
Illegal Aliens should be free to fully participate in our society up to and including being held less responsible for crimes committed than those who are legal citizens (Sorry you old Constitution you!)
Lot's more, but you get the idea.
LLR and "accidental leftist" Chuck: "I voted for Trump, to avoid a Democrat/Hillary Administration."
There is no evidence for this odd assertion.
LLR and #StrongDurbinDefender Chuck: "...the impeachment of Trump (which I’d like to see, but which I am not expecting or predicting) produces a President Pence Administration. It does not produce a Democrat/Hillary Administration."
We understand fully that the long term plan of the Leftists and their LLR allies is a multi-step one to return the dems to their rightful place in charge of the govt in order to complete their "fundamental transformation" of our nation.
Even by prog standards, the current lefty narrative leaves a bit to be desired: Hill takes $145M from Putin, Bill takes $.5M from him for a speech, Fusion GPS takes his $$ to counter the Magnitsky Act and works with his operatives to launder anti-Trump disinformation to the FBI, but "Trump colludes with the Russians."
Inga said...
Prove it’s right.
Snap shit now and get busy.
Easy peasy you Stalinist piece of shit.
McCabe set up the meeting.
Strzok performed the "interview."
Where have we heard those names before?
This is not going to end well for you.
Why should I do your work for you?
You're here to enlighten us, I think you even wrote that once.
Please, enlighten us so we are all on the same page.
Drago said...
I hope, for your sake, you are able to provide evidence which proves your patriotism.
I am going to watch the Super Bowl and I will rooting for the Patriots (unless its a blowout, in which case I will go to bed). How many commentators here can say that? Sure, Brady is married to a super model, and he's rich, and better looking than most male models, and really tall, and really fit, and really good at playing football, but he's also a Patriot (and a Trump supporter, at least when his wife let's him speak). We should all step up and proclaim our Patriotism. All hail the Patriots!
Phew! I was worried that just because Gen. Flynn pled guilty to lying to the FBI and said he was cooperating with Mueller, that the deep state might have thought they had the goods on him and would use him against Trump.
But no! Gen. Flynn is actually going to go free because he'll show the FBI faked him out by getting him to answer questions without a lawyer. Of course, he answered their questions with lies, because he had no idea that federal investigators might know what they were asking about when they interviewed him. He was only the National Security Advisor, after all.
So it's good that the Feds are going to let Flynn go because they acknowledge they violated his civil rights by unmasking him.
Good luck with that!
ARM: "I am going to watch the Super Bowl and I will rooting for the Patriots (unless its a blowout, in which case I will go to bed)."
Egads Man! I'm trying to help you here!
ARM: "Sure, Brady is married to a super model, and he's rich, and better looking than most male models, and really tall, and really fit, and really good at playing football,..."
I must ask you to cease now, for I am getting all aflutter...
ARM: "but he's also a Patriot (and a Trump supporter, at least when his wife let's him speak)."
Preach it brother.
AReasonableMan said...
Apparently this thread has gone very badly for the right wing trolls since I am being slandered here and I never said a word.
Yeah, I was surprised to see you lumped in with Inga, etc.
No patriot should watch the Super Bowl that is the product of a league that kowtows to felons who celebrate cop killers. The NFL has gone full social justice warrior and spits in the face of what used to be their fan base.
Chuck said...
Do I really need to inform you, that the impeachment of Trump (which I’d like to see, but which I am not expecting or predicting) produces a President Pence Administration. It does not produce a Democrat/Hillary Administration.
Let's play out Chuck's fantasy.
In Chuck's fantasy Pence would be president for 2.5 years in a wounded administration. It would have to kowtow to the democrats who would win congressional majorities in 2018 because the Republican party would be completely shattered.
In 2020 there would be zero chance a Republican won anything on the national stage.
Chuck knows this. The democrats know this. Republicans know this. Trump supporters know this.
Chuck is an ally of the democrats and wants them to win. It doesn't matter what he calls himself. He is absolutely here in bad faith.
But Chuck's fantasy would never come to pass. You impeach Trump and there will be an immediate hot civil war. Democrats have been spying on political opponents. We will never let them into power again.
Flynn and Bannon are gonna spill the beans on Trump's sekrit Poot love. Any minute now!
It's illegal to go to meetings with Russians who promise dirt on poor innocent Hillary. Quite fine to pay GPS Ohr Group for British spook Trump hate, that includes bed wetting.
Poor innocent Hillary who ws allowed by the FBI and the DOJ to mishandle classified information and od whatever she needed to do to mishandle and bleechbit in the name of her bogus charitable family foundation.
Hillary - who pocketed 140 million from secret Russian Uranium deals.
John Pickering: "Phew! I was worried that just because Gen. Flynn pled guilty to lying to the FBI and said he was cooperating with Mueller, that the deep state might have thought they had the goods on him and would use him against Trump."
I would be a little hesitant at this point to hang my Trump is a Russian spy hopes on this considering the following:
1) The information that has leaked out and will continue to be exposed by the Grassley, Goodlatte and Horowitz reports
2) The forced (yes, "forced") recusal of the Judge overseeing the Flynn case (who just so happened to be the FISA court judge who signed off on what appears to be (and will be argued shortly improper) surveillance yielding "fruit of the poison tree" info which was the basis for the charge
3) Mueller's and team's very very very sudden postponement of the sentencing Hearing from 3 days ago and
4) The brand new reports that Flynn and his lawyers are contemplating withdrawing from the plea and fighting it
Now, I wonder what might have happened in the last couple of weeks that might have changed the legal "conditions on the ground" that might have precipitated #4)?
Oh yeah, numbers 1) thru 3).
But that's just me. I mean, Mueller has Flynn dead to rights, right? What would the changing of the judge change?
I mean, just because there are additional reports that McCabe and potentially others directed some agents (who appear to be cooperating with IG Horowitz probe) to alter their formal interview (302) Notes.
A curious person might go "hmmmmmmm".
They just might.
General Flnn was ill advised but was facing financial ruin and the destruction of his family due to a "trumped" up prosecution of his son.
We can only hope that President Trump will appoint people who will visit the same type of destruction on McCabe and Mrs. Mueller and their little band of liberal zealots. They made the rules of the game.... Now it is our turn.
Patriots are going to win and that collective hiss you hear it the sound of.... boredom and the air flowing out of Brady's balls.
Since we have brought football into the conversation, Inga's comments remind me of the coaching staff of the hapless Cleveland Browns: "Yeah, we were winless, but we gained 100 yards on the ground against Tampa in week 7. Winning! Wait'll next election!!"
Humperdink: ""Yeah, we were winless, but we gained 100 yards on the ground against Tampa in week 7. Winning! Wait'll next election!!"
President Of California Hillary Clinton disagrees with your assessment.
And California Secretary of Defense Bowe Bergdahl concurs with her assessment.
Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...
"Hillary skates because of Comey and Strozk and all the other hacks inside a corrupted FBI."
Well, let's not be so sure about that. It is a fine thing, indeed, to have the lying tool heading up the FBI declare that he has decided not to charge you or any of your henchpersons with any crimes. Especially when the corrupt tool heading up the DOJ has already abdicated her responsibility to make that decision. But it is not actually the same as being tried for those crimes and found not guilty, or being charged with those crimes and having the charges dismissed with prejudice.
This Super Bowl will be one of the most poorly rated ones in many years.
I hope President Trump tweets out that it should be boycotted.
I also hope that some of the hapless miscreants kneel during the Anthem.
It will be the final nail in the coffin.
Chuck said...
"I must say; the notion that you think I am a “liar” means nothing to me since I think you’re a dumbfuck."
Well, of course, you are in a position to know. But others reading this blog might not be, so I thought I would just lay out some of the evidence. I suppose they will just ignore it, now that I have been declared a dumbfuck.
"I also hope that some of the hapless miscreants kneel during the Anthem.
It will be the final nail in the coffin."
I suspect LLR would kneel just to spite Trump, but with LLR's physique he may not get back to his feet.
https://mikeflynndefensefund.org
The NFL is going to go the way of boxing before it.
A violent and crooked sport populated mostly by blacks but with a white working class fan base.
That is not a tenable position over the long term.
“ AReasonableMan said...
Me and Trey agree on this:
"As I have said repeatedly, I also remain 100 percent confident in Special Counsel Robert Mueller. The contents of this memo do not - in any way - discredit his investigation."”
It’s probably already been said but I’m not wading through hundreds of comments just to see. Look, the memo isn’t about PR. I assure you that 80% of Americans can’t, or don’t want to, understand what the memo is about. What the memo actually is, is a fish wrapped in a newspaper sent to the clowns who abused their power. Really, they almost could have sent it interoffice to the bad actors in question. We know what you did. This is the merest outline of what we have on you. Resign, get in line, or prepare to be prosecuted and disgraced.
Gowdy’s comment is so clearly a warning that I’m surprised our resident Progs find it comforting.
I’m also rooting for the Pats. The Eagles are thugs and their fans are going to riot regardless of whether they win or lose.
ARM: "Me and Trey agree on this:
"As I have said repeatedly, I also remain 100 percent confident in Special Counsel Robert Mueller. The contents of this memo do not - in any way - discredit his investigation."
So does the entire Republican membership of the HPSCI:
CHARGE: The memo is intended to undermine the Special Counsel’s ongoing Russia
investigation
Response from the Republican members of the HPSCI:
The memo has nothing to do with the Special Counsel’s investigation, and is
intended to expose past abuses of the FISA process, namely Senior DOJ and FBI officials'
use of unverified opposition research. That research was financed by a presidential candidate, Hillary Clinton, and resulted in a surveillance warrant on an American citizen. Further, consistent with its bipartisan commitment not to impede any ongoing investigation, the Committee has not sought documents or information post-dating the appointment of the Special Counsel in May 2017.
Jupiter,
Trump hiring Sessions and saying openly that he wasn't going to pursue criminal charges against Hillary was a big mistake. I know Trump's ardent supporters think he's a super-genius but hat was just dumb.
I have already seen this movie.
In this version of "McCabe and Mrs. Meuller" we once again see prostitutes try to take over a decent town. While the normals fight to save their burning church.....McCabe is shot in the back and Mrs. Mueller is incapacitated in a drug addled state.
It is not even an entertaining remake.
But Chuck's fantasy would never come to pass. You impeach Trump and there will be an immediate hot civil war. Democrats have been spying on political opponents. We will never let them into power again.
You’re as bad as the worst of black radicals; threatening that there will be blood in the streets if you don’t get things your way,
Lulz.
Wake me, when all of the Medicare-recipient Trump supporters break themselves away from the golf courses and their Schwalb accounts to take up arms. Trading their Mojitos for Molotov cocktails.
LLR and "Accidental Leftist" Chuck: "Wake me, when all of the Medicare-recipient Trump supporters break themselves away from the golf courses and their Schwalb accounts to take up arms. Trading their Mojitos for Molotov cocktails."
With every post Vichy Chuck exposes more and more of what he did not necessarily intend to expose...about himself.
Let's see now, how about a scrub of "Bowe Bergdahl Republican" Chuck's last missive against the Standard Lefty Narrative Checklist, shall we?
"Medicare-recipient Trunp supporters"-- All Trump supporters are old or poor CHECK
"golf courseds and their Schwalb accounts"--All Trump supporters are essentially Mr Monopoly (don't worry about the cognitive dissonance) CHECK
"trading their mojitos for molotov cocktails" (yes, "molotov cocktails", ties right into todays narrative that all Trump supporters are tools of Putin) Check
Well played Mr supposed Trump voter who writes endlessly of his golf prowess and love of hunting (LOL, I know, right?), Rachel Maddow could not have done it better.
I'm sure your Rachel Maddow blow up doll is very proud of you.
You know, after having spent years cultivating a particular online persona, you would think LLR and #StrongDemDefender Chuck would be a little more careful and respectful of that persona and not so destructive of it.
But, then again, you and I are not part of that "team", so we don't see it quite the way they do.
LLR Chuck: "You’re as bad as the worst of black radicals; threatening that there will be blood in the streets if you don’t get things your way"
Except there really already is blood in the streets, isn't there?
You really ought to try much harder.
Really.
Chuck loses the plot sometimes.
It is difficult to continue to pretend to be something you are so clearly not.
It's just like a Democrat or Liberal pretending to be a Patriot.
It is just not believable.
Is it the FBI's job to prove it's at war with us? Because wow.
Dickin'Bimbos@Home: "Is it the FBI's job to prove it's at war with us? Because wow."
Similar to the reports that Rod Rosenstein threatened the entire republican membership of the House intel committee that constitutionally mandated to perform oversight of the DOJ (as part of the executive branch).
There are now separate republicans coming forth from the committee that say Rod Rosenstein, in a meeting three weeks ago, threatened to subpeona the texts and messages of Chairman Nunes and members of Congress because he was tired of dealing with the intel committee.
Expect to hear much more about this threat soon.
Can you imagine? Threatening with abuse of law enforcement processes sitting congresspersons who have the constitutionally mandated authority to conduct oversight.
That's the kind of thing that could cause LLR Chuck to demand the questioning under oath of the other 6 year old who set up a lemonade stand with Donald Trump 65 years ago.
"Apparently this thread has gone very badly for the right wing trolls since I am being slandered here and I never said a word."
You know that I am referring to an earlier thread where you deliberately and with malice lied about know facts to advance your opinion.
You are a dishonorable man, Mr. Schiff. I mean ARM. You think you as clever a liar as Bill Clinton.
If you wish to charge me with slander, we should exchange email addresses so that we can settle that in a court of law. Loser pays for all legal fees and a $25K fine to the winner (for making false charges). The clear evidence of your lying is on the aforementioned thread. That is your stain. It's just not on a blue dress.
Be careful. Even that well practiced liar, Bill Clinton had a price to pay. You will be getting off cheap.
It occurs to me that even if national intelligence methods may be revealed if all the facts are made known, that is less important than the possible legal and constitutional violations. National security considerations don't trump everything.
Well something might b going on with Flynn.
His sentencing is delayed.
The original FISA approving judge/ sentencing judge was removed/recused.
Ruben Contreras
Blogger Inga said...
Normal Americans also don’t run down and kill innocent women at a protest.
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Yeah, except that guy was being chased by a lefty Antifa nut carrying an AR15 just before he plowed int the crowd...
when all of the Medicare-recipient Trump supporters
You mean everyone who's worked for 30-40 years and paid into the system?
What do you have against the working class?
I think Chuck is trying to say that many of Trump's supporters are old enough to enroll in Medicare and, therefore, too old to fight.
Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...
Jupiter,
Trump hiring Sessions and saying openly that he wasn't going to pursue criminal charges against Hillary was a big mistake. I know Trump's ardent supporters think he's a super-genius but hat was just dumb.
Sessions has easily been the biggest disappointment of this administration. He is completely worthless. Every now and then he bleats about going after the Marijuana industry. He is Chuck level pathetic.
Chuckster must be too young to remember how old Rostenkowski's hood ornament was when changes to Medicare were proposed.
why do I think that if you asked the average law enforcement officer if s/he felt that Trump was "escalating" the war on them or against them , they'd respond huh? What war?
They might say, "No, that effectively ended with the Obama Administration".
Here's a pretty good recap of how Flynn was setup...
http://theduran.com/a-case-of-entrapment-how-the-deep-state-brought-down-michael-flynn/
Huh. Nadler's memo also illegally leaked.
I'm glad Democrats take NATIONAL SECURITY so seriously.
The very first point is wrong:
"The FISA court found probable cause to believe that Carter Page is an agent of a
foreign power. Nothing in the Nunes memo rules out the possibility that
considerable evidence beyond the Steele dossier helped the court reach that
conclusion."
-- It doesn't matter if there was other evidence. McCabe acknowledged that, without the dossier, the other evidence wasn't enough. They NEEDED the dossier. It doesn't matter how much other evidence there was.
"Christopher Steele is a recognized expert on Russia and organized crime."
-- That doesn't matter since his objectivity was what was being questioned, not his professionalism. Though, we also know he didn't bring much of that to the table, since the FBI had to fire him for breaking confidentiality. So, the second Nadler point is flawed.
"The Nunes memo provides no credible basis whatsoever for removing Rod Rosenstein as Deputy Attorney General."
-- Did the Nunes memo say to do that? I mean, I'd think someone signing off on using tainted evidence would be a good reason to think about replacing him, but the biggest reason to remove him would be if it was true he went to Trump to try and quash the Congressional investigation. This isn't even a point that matters.
"The Nunes memo shows that House Republicans are now part and parcel to an organized effort to obstruct the Special Counsel’s investigation."
-- It in no way shows that. The only obstruction has been Nadler and Schiff's leaks of their memos, Rosenstein going to Trump to quash it, and Stzork and Page subverting the investigation, along with the potential secret methods of communication they and others used to avoid FOIA. The memo in no way impedes the investigation.
I am curious how a 1978 court case relates to the secret FISA courts.
"We should not lose sight of a critical and undisputed fact: the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Court found probable cause to believe that Carter Page—a member of the Trump
campaign’s foreign policy team—was an agent of the Russian government."
-- Actually, they did not find that. They found that the FBI and others could go fishing. If they had probable cause to believe that, they'd have arrested Page then and there. They were LOOKING for the proof he was a foreign agent.
How fundamentally wrong is the Nadler memo?
Achilles said
Sessions has easily been the biggest disappointment of this administration. He is completely worthless.
Agreed. Worthless and a swamp creature. If Trump wants to drain the swamp, Sessions needs to go. NOW.
Ah, I see what Nadler's doing. He's conflating "probable cause to believe" with "probable cause he was."
@ Matthew
-- It doesn't matter if there was other evidence. McCabe acknowledged that, without the dossier, the other evidence wasn't enough. They NEEDED the dossier. It doesn't matter how much other evidence there was.
McCabe acknowledged ...
Worth a big fat bold and a repeat
"First, the Nunes memo appears to concede that the investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to the Russian government was well underway before the government applied for an order to conduct surveillance of Carter Page. In its final paragraph, the Nunes memo states: “[t]he Papadopoulos information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence
investigation in late July 2016.” The statement refers to George Papadopoulos, another member of the Trump campaign’s foreign policy team. There is no reason to dispute the Nunes memo’s assertion that the FBI was actively investigating the Trump campaign months before they approached the court about Carter Page."
-- The Nunes memo went on to say: "The Page FISA application also mentions information regarding fellow Trump campaign advisor George Papadopoulos, but there is no evidence of any cooperation or conspiracy between Page and Papadopoulos." In other words, deliberately conflating the two is a logical error.
" “knowingly and intentionally, or with reckless disregard for the truth,” included false information or excluded true information that was or would have been critical to the court’s determination of probable cause. The Nunes memo alleges nothing that would even come close to meeting this standard."
-- Ah, there's how they are relating that 1978 case to the modern FISA.
Well, I'd say telling the court political operatives did it, while sitting on the knowledge that it was Team Clinton, Trump's enemies, instead of the Republicans, his nominal allies that did it, while the rest of the world thought it was the Republicans GREATLY changes what we have.
7:38 Matthew Sablan
Excellent points. I hope you won't mind if I save them as a rebuttal to the leftwing lie machine trolls.
"So, to be clear: Carter Page was, more likely than not, an agent of a foreign power. The Department of Justice thought so. A federal judge agreed. That consensus, supported by the facts, forms the basis for the warrant issued by the FISA court. The Russian government waged a massive campaign to discredit our election. Carter Page appears to have played a role in that effort. "
-- Has Page been indicted? If Democrats say we know this, I'm sure has been. Right?
"The Nunes memo would have us sweep this all under the rug. "
-- All the Nunes memo does is say the information should have been shared. The court may have still decided that it was worth surveillance. They probably would have, given how rare it is for FISA courts to deny the warrant. The fact the government chose secrecy and silence over full and open presentation of facts is the problem -- not that the warrant happened. (Though I think the warrant relying so heavily on a document even the FBI doesn't fully trust is problematic.)
"And, amazingly, the Nunes memo does not provide a single shred of evidence that any aspect of the Steele dossier is false or inaccurate in any way."
-- If Nadler doesn't know that much of the dossier is wrong, well, then again, what was the point of this memo?
"In fact, Fusion GPS initiated the project on behalf of the conservative Washington Free Beacon, not the DNC."
-- Yeah. So. Nadler doesn't understand the chronology. At all.
His memo is useless to us. But, this is why it was important for the FBI to make clear that the dossier was paid for by Clinton. Because even Nadler, who has all the documents and layers of editors/fact checkers STILL is making this error months after the Clinton campaign/DNC finally admitted it was them.
It is apparently a given, but I haven't heard anyone talk about why the FBI wanted Hillary to win. I believe they wanted her to win because they would "own' her, with what they know about her criminal behavior, and that they could "reopen" an investigation at any time should she not support their funding, etc. A lot like the mafia, actually.
"Only Donald Trump, who will use these half-truths to further interfere with the Special Counsel, and Vladimir Putin, who now has a clear view of how our intelligence community attempted to interrupt his operations in the United States."
-- What in the world is he talking about? The memo said nothing new.
"It is apparently a given, but I haven't heard anyone talk about why the FBI wanted Hillary to win."
-- Stzork and Page's texts make it sound like they wanted her to win than they thought she would win, and didn't want to be on her bad side.
I don't see how the quote from Franks v. Delaware relates to the FISA court. It reads, in full: "To mandate an evidentiary hearing, the challenger's attack must be more than conclusory, and must be supported by more than a mere desire to cross-examine."
There *is no challenger in FISA court.*
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