February 19, 2018

At the Blue Ink Café...

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... you can share all the colors of your thoughts.

That's Tsuyu-Kusa — Dayflower Blue — ink I bought for my beautiful Pelikan pen. Those are Amazon Associates links, which empower you to support this blog while buying things that you want for yourself. If you don't like that ink (or the many other colors at that link) and don't want that pen, please consider using the Althouse Portal to Amazon whenever you're buying something that you do want.

181 comments:

madAsHell said...

When do you find time to use a pen??

traditionalguy said...

Make mine Sunset Orange for marking errors in student papers.

Ken B said...

Hard to believe it's been over 6 weeks since Tillerson resigned.

Ann Althouse said...

"When do you find time to use a pen??"

Sometimes I like to take a notebook (with excellent paper) and go somewhere without a computer and write in a different way. It has an effect. It's contemplative. And I like to be able to make handwritten notes in some situation.

But I have plenty of time. Almost all I do is read and write, so having a different way to write is valuable to me.

buwaya said...

My wife collects vintage fountain pens. Has a hundred or so.
Has them restored to working order.
In spite of that, she wont let me use them to sign checks.

John Holland said...

That's a gorgeous blue. I may give it a try. Is there any way of doing it thru amazon.ca so that you get your cut of the vig?

My favourite used to be Sheaffer's Peacock Blue but they discontinued it. (My Universal Rule of Consumption: If I like it, it WILL be discontinued. So always buy two, if possible.)

There are entire threads on fountainpennetwork devoted to reproducing Peacock Blue by mixing other inks.

Fabi said...

Beautiful ink for a beautiful pen, Althouse. I had a feeling you were old school.

EDH said...

I've only seen cartridge fountain pens and had to look up the piston converter style.

http://www.solespen.com/?p=2179

Looks like a potential mess!

Fernandistein said...

Bus Driver: Hi, there, colorful replica of America's past, when is the 'existing-in-its-primitive-splendor' snake dance going to take place?

Elder Indian: Well, it's usually in August, but with all of our children off at Indian School, there's no one left to do the ceremonies....

Young Indian [gets off bus]: Hi-ya, Pop!

Elder: Hello, Soaring Eagle! It's good to have you back from school!

Young Indian: Oh, come on, call me Eddie! I'm an American now!

Elder: What have they been teaching you?

Young Indian: Just what we need for a better life! French Horn, Italian, water polo...

Government Agent: Yes, at the Custer Memorial Indian School, Eddie's one of our Prize students. We're giving him away next week!

Elder: Oh, my White Brother...

Hippie: Hey, man, don't let 'em bring you down, now.

("Waiting For The Electrician", @ ~6:20).

Peter said...

...which empower you to support this blog...

Empower me? Impressive, and very millenial-cool. I haven't heard such a creative spiel since G.W. Bush urged us all to go shopping after 9/11 to show the terrorists they couldn't win. OK, I just spent a C-note on Amazon. Watch out world, I am EMPOWERED! Wanna step outside?

Trumpit said...

The best colored rubies are "pigeon-blood red," and the best colored sapphires are "corn-flower blue." Rubies and sapphires have a "hardness" second only to diamonds, which is the hardest substance. Hardness relates to the scratchability, a word I just made up. My understanding is that you can't scratch a diamond except with another diamond. Sapphire and rubies are both aluminium(III) oxide, Al2O3, with other substances, like chromium, added to the crystal to change the color from clear to yellow, orange, blue, pink etc. So, sapphires come in a variety of colors, with the red ones containing chromium referred to as rubies.

Assrat said...

I don't have a fountain pen, but now I kind of want one.

traditionalguy said...

But what about using Quill Pens, since you have an endless supply of Canadian Geese to pluck. If it was good enough for John Hancock and friends, it is good enough for me.

Unknown said...

You need "excellent" paper for a fountain pen.

I always write with a Sheaffer and have since high school. I remember one unfortunate time in college where we had to take an exam on a school standard term book. I bought one at the student union on the way to the test, and the paper turned out to be about as good as a paper towel for fountain pen work. I turned in a blotty almost illegible mess.

Anthony said...

I was fascinated to see that The First Openly Gay Male Figure Skater was on hand at the Olympics this year.

A) He kind of sucked.

B) He's a dope.

C) Srsly, I'm actually waiting for the First Openly Straight Male Figure Skater.

Rumpletweezer said...

That's a very nice pen. How does it write? And how's the ink? I have several fountain pens and wish I had the time to use them all.

Michael said...

Althouse

As noted before, Shelby Foote used a dip pen to write his Civil War books. I have been using Private Reserve ink for a few years in a color called Tanzinite. If you use a fountain pen you have to be fussy about the ink. The Pilot ink may or may not be a friend to your Pelican. I have a small (200?) Pelican but generally use a Pilot or Namiki Falcon with a broad nib. Falcon has the most flexible of nibs. If you want something special like an oblique or Spencerian you have to go to Nibs.com and check out the tweaks they will perform.

Clyde said...

I don't need a $295 fountain pen with my 29-cent handwriting. If I was a calligrapher, though, it might be a different kettle of sushi. I like the Chiku-rin "Bamboo Forest" light green the best of the colors shown at the link.

Now I Know! said...

Ann is such a bullshitter. Yesterday she wrote
“I have always found that once the President is elected, we should accept the result and support him when we can and look to the next election if we can't. I think the "resistance" is a rejection of democracy.”

I don’t remember Ann taking such a strong stand when it was against President Obama. It was even Trump who was the face of the Birther movement questioning whether Obama was even constitutionally legitimate. Show me the tag linking to Ann taking a strong stance against that?

Like I said, Ann is such a bullshitter.

Hagar said...

Have all you guys forgotten AA's fountain pen and ink drawings?
It has been a while , but still ...

Ann Althouse said...

@clyde

Maybe if you had a nice pen, you’d slow down and take an aesthetic interest in your writing and it would become pleasing.

Hagar said...

In high school, a teacher asked what I would do when I grew up and no one could read my handwriting?
I replied that that is what secretaries are for.

Ann Althouse said...

@now

Obama was given a long and very supportive honeymoon in the press.

I voted for him, btw, so I don’t know why you’re making up the idea that I was biased against him..

Are you a Russian troll or some other nationality?

Clyde said...

Althouse, I always got Cs and Ds in penmanship in elementary school, lo, those many years ago. You can't grow peaches on a cherry tree. If I slow down, I can write legibly, but that's about as good as it gets.

Meade said...

Peter said...
Empower me? Impressive, and very millenial-cool. I haven't heard such a creative spiel since G.W. Bush urged us all to go shopping after 9/11 to show the terrorists they couldn't win. OK, I just spent a C-note on Amazon. Watch out world, I am EMPOWERED! Wanna step outside?

Power to the Peter, right on!

Clyde said...

BROWNS - You Can't Grow Peaches on a Cherry Tree

rhhardin said...

Octopus and squid inks are the best.

Smilin' Jack said...

Maybe if you had a nice pen, you’d slow down and take an aesthetic interest in your writing and it would become pleasing.

Yes, it's sad that all Shakespeare had was a goose quill. Imagine how much better Hamlet would have been if he'd written it with a nice pen.

Mike Sylwester said...

Now I Know at 1:21 PM
... Trump who was the face of the Birther movement questioning whether Obama was even constitutionally legitimate ...

On this blog, the birther issue has been discussed plenty. I never get tired of it, and I'm always eager to discuss it some more.

Donald Trump deserves much credit for compelling Barack Obama to help establish the precedent that every presidential candidate should help provide the government's best evidence about the candidate's birth circumstances.

The US Constitution includes a presidential requirement related to birth circumstances.

Therefore, the electorate should be provided the government's best evidence. In the case of Obama, the electorate was given only a summary, written by an anonymous clerk, of Obama's original, long-form birth certificate.

Obama could have facilitated the provision of the original document in 2008, but he preferred that the controversy develop as a lot of racism accusations until 2012, when he finally was compelled by Trump to provide to the electorate the original document.

That's a good precedent for all future presidential elections.

Trump raised the same issue of birth circumstances when he ran against Ted Cruz in the 2016 primary elections.

Now I Know! said...
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Now I Know! said...

Ann, Trump was the ring leader of the Birther movement. Based on what you wrote yesterday that should have been a disqualifer for you. But instead you are pushing the crazy notion that HE is the one being unfairly torn down, never mind that almost everyday he lowers the presidency with undignified personal attacks on those he considers his enemies at the moment.

Are the media and others (including many Republicans like the two President Bushes and the two most recent Republican presidential nominees) more critical and skeptical of Trump? Of course and you know why. He is a scoundrel who has made his political career on taking cheap ugly shots at individuals and vulnerable groups.

But again, you know that. But you are a bullshitter.

Unknown said...

Yes, it's sad that all Shakespeare had was a goose quill. Imagine how much better Hamlet would have been if he'd written it with a nice pen.

Hagar said...

Fake birth certificates can be had as cheaply as fake driver's licenses.

Faking family and neighbors' wagging tongues is much more difficult if not impossible.

Now I Know! said...

Yes Ann, I am a Russian troll. (Sarcasm off.)

Ann, more proof that you are such the bullshitter.

Now I Know! said...

Ann, serious question, did Trump play any role in him not getting a honeymoon?

Now I Know! said...

Ann, serious question, compared to past presidents, does Trump practice the politics of division or has he tried to bring the country together?

Ignorance is Bliss said...

Now I Know! said...

Ann, serious question, did Trump play any role in him not getting a honeymoon?

Of course he did. He ran as a Republican.

Even worse, he won.

Hagar said...

and they would have wagged aplenty when Stanley Ann Dunham gave birth to Barack Obama - even in tolerant Hawaii in the 1960's.

Mike Sylwester said...

There are a lot of people in the USA who spend much of their mental energy thinking up ways to accuse other people of being racists.

The birther controversy was an occasion for lots of racism accusations.

A person was a racist for saying that the electorate should be provided the best evidence about Barack Obama's birth circumstances while Obama was campaigning for a position that can be filled only by a "natural-born citizen".

A person was a racist for saying that the electorate should not be satisfied with a mere summary, written by an anonymous clerk, of the original document, which was available in the archive of a state government.

Obama's birth circumstances were poorly documented. His supposed father was a foreigner. His parents' marriage certificate was missing. His mother's whereabouts right in the weeks following the birth were dubious.

A person was a racist for wanting the government's best evidence -- not merely anonymously written summaries -- to be provided to the electorate.

Obama was a person who preferred that this controversy always be discussed in terms of racism accusations.

madAsHell said...

I keep a notebook as well.

I appreciate the value of a good pen, but I use the cheap PaperMate ball point pens. They bend ever so slightly when clenched.

Several sources have stated that I have girlie handwriting. In high school, I would forge attendance excuses for a buck a piece. Everyone thought I could write just like their Mom's.

Curious George said...

"Ann Althouse said...

Obama was given a long and very supportive honeymoon in the press."

Was? It hasn't ended. And won't end.

FullMoon said...

Ann Althouse said... [hush]​[hide comment]

@now

Obama was given a long and very supportive honeymoon in the press.

I voted for him, btw, so I don’t know why you’re making up the idea that I was biased against him..

Are you a Russian troll or some other nationality?


The idea is to get mommies attention. Insults a favorite ploy.
Surprised Ann is so dumb she cannot see that !

JK.

Mike Sylwester said...
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Mike Sylwester said...

The Democrats who make a big deal about Trump not providing his tax documents are the very same Democrats who make racism accusations at anyone who ever said that Obama should have provided his original long-form birth certificate instead of a mere summary, written by an anonymous clerk, of that original document, which was available in a state archive.

The US Constitution requires that a US President be a "natural-born citizen".

In contrast, the US Constitution does not state any requirement related to a US President's history of paying taxes.

roesch/voltaire said...

A honeymoon for Trump is a challenge considering his TD--Twitter Dysfunction.

Gahrie said...

A honeymoon for Trump is a challenge considering his TD--Twitter Dysfunction.

Name the last Republican president to get a honeymoon.

exiledonmainstreet said...

What beautiful ink.

The problem for southpaws like me is we always end up smearing ink and getting it on our hands. When I was in college, I constantly had a black or blue smudge on the knuckle of my left pinky finger from taking notes during class. (And I had to balance my notebooks on my knee rather than the desk.) I'd buy fancy fountain pens and ink if I wrote in Arabic or Hebrew.

exiledonmainstreet said...

Tweet from FB Ad Exec Rob Goldman:


Rob Goldman @robjective

The main goal of the Russian propaganda and misinformation effort is to divide America by using our institutions, like free speech and social media, against us. It has stoked fear and hatred amongst Americans. It is working incredibly well. We are quite divided as a nation.


7:57 PM - Feb 16, 2018

Yep. The Dems played right into their hands.

Michael Moore attended an anti-Trump rally last year that was organized by the Russians.

Now I Know! said...
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roesch/voltaire said...

Six weeks into his presidency, George W. Bush is enjoying a honeymoon with the American people. This positive feeling is spilling over into people‚s feelings about the economy (somewhat upbeat) and where the country is heading (about where it was in a poll take in December ‚00), according to a new Los Angeles Times Poll. Yet, because of the way Bush won the election (through the Supreme Court decision) and losing the popular vote, most Americans feel he does not have a mandate to push through many of his campaign promises, but should pursue a course of compromise with congressional Democrats over his tax cut proposals, school vouchers, privatizing Social Security and other campaign promises

'TreHammer said...

...empower?...

John Pickering said...

Ann, who has been thanking her readers recently for their financial support, is just preaching to the echo chamber anymore, and asking for money. Her total Trump support -- she finds him highly intelligent, trustworthy, shrewd, decent, and so on -- can be seen as an appeal to line her pocketbook. I mean, Inga and Chuck probably aren't buying.

Ann will never take anything like a moderated view of Trump, because:

It's hard to get someone to understand something when her salary depends on her not understanding it.

Follow the money!

Lem said...

Huckberry

FullMoon said...

Ann will never take anything like a moderated view of Trump, because:

It's hard to get someone to understand something when her salary depends on her not understanding it.

Follow the money!


The idea is to get mommies attention. Insults a favorite ploy.

jaydub said...

Has there ever been a sport whiter than curling? Discounting the trash talk of course.

Jupiter said...

Blogger Ann Althouse said...

"I voted for him, btw, so I don’t know why you’re making up the idea that I was biased against him."

But did you vote for him *twice*?

SayAahh said...

Impotence is described this way: I have a pen but I don’t have anyone to write.
I don’t have a pen but I have someone to write.

buwaya said...

A retired person is, absent some extraordinary power to interfere with their pensions and savings, remarkaby independent. Hobby income is splurge income, luxurious, unnecessary.

I am eager to retire. The independence will be wonderful.

The trollery on this is weird.

n.n said...
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steve uhr said...

what about the people who still believe Obama was born n in Africa? Can we agree that a large no of them are racist?

Ignorance is Bliss said...

buwaya said...

The trollery on this is weird.

I suspect something was lost in translation from the original Russian

buwaya said...

When I am free I intend to publish, with no intention of making money.

#1 is a lengthy Spanish account of the 1876 conquest of Jolo, and the various related expeditions. Projected Kindle price $ 0.99

I have been working on it, spottily, for over a decade.

I expect to make @ $0.99 on it.

John Pickering said...

I didn't know that Ann is retired. I thought she is currently employed as a law professor, will refer to her as retired in future. Doesn't mean she doesn't like or need extra income. I can't imagine it's enough to take full advantage of the recent tax cuts.

Bay Area Guy said...

Heh - Althouse gave me a nice chuckle on this lovely Presidents Day:

"Are you a Russian troll or some other nationality?"

Heh, heh!

Proposed new Althouse policy:

All foreign nationals using pseudonyms or posting yard signs or generally sowing political discord on this blog, without first registering with the Attorney General or FCC as a foreign agent, will be referred to the estimable Robert Mueller for immediate indictmemt as a Russian Troll, violating 14 USC Section 1001, et seq



Ignorance is Bliss said...

steve uhr said...

what about the people who still believe Obama was born n in Africa? Can we agree that a large no of them are racist?

I'd agree with that, if only someone would give a reasonable accounting of which continent he was actually born on.

buwaya said...

I suspect most of these people are unhappy Madisonians, most likely academics. There is that skulking, envious air to them. Also the inability to argue.

I swear, I have heard better (sincere) argument from blue collar union-represented workers than from US academics. They have a machine in grad school that permanently stuns certain synapses. Thats my theory anyway.

bolivar di griz said...

I recall when trump was so driven with bush derangement, that despite having supported maverick and huntress, slobbered over Obama the first year and a half.


Very intersting buwaya, another subject someone apprised of the attempted siege of havana in 1842, and a disastrous folowup 20 years later during the

buwaya said...

Uh, Bay Area Neighbor, that means me.

I do, after all, have a political agenda on behalf of a foreign power.

bolivar di griz said...

So there was a second one:

https://historyofsulu.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/first-spanish-conquest-and-occupation-of-sulu-1635-1646/

Mike Sylwester said...

steve uhr at 3:09 PM
what about the people who still believe Obama was born n in Africa? Can we agree that a large no of them are racist?

You seem to be one of those people who spends a lot of his mental energy thinking up ways to call other people racists.

I happen to think that Obama was born in Hawaii, but I am aware of some evidence that Obama was born in Africa. For example, a blurb about one of his books says he was born in Africa. As another example, a member of his father's African family remarked that he was born in Africa.

If some person believes that evidence is compelling, then exactly why does that make him a "racist"?

Isn't "racism" a belief that people of a particular race should be treated differently because of their race?

If a person thinks that the available evidence proves that Obama was born in Africa, then that is simply a matter of his evaluation of evidence about where a particular person was born.

buwaya said...

There were several "conquests" of Jolo.
The same old story every time, it could be taken, but keeping a garrison there was expensive. The same is true today.

The last one of 1876 "took" finally, more or less. The Spanish garrison handed over to the American one.

Bay Area Guy said...

Free the Russian 13!

Even Trolls deserve Due Process!

Our friend, Buwaya, might be a foreign troll out to sow discord! Be ever vigilant - if you see something, say something!

bolivar di griz said...

1742, it was during the war of Austrian succession, which was a let loss for the uk

buwaya said...

Well I am a foreign troll. That goes without saying.
If the Russians can be indicted (for trolling, not financial process crimes) so can I.

And some others too.

bolivar di griz said...

Homeland is running afoul of the Phillip wroth dilemma:

www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/reviews/homeland-season-7-episode-2-review-carrie-mathison-claire-danes-saul-keane-spoiler-a8217756.html

Quantico made in a more entertaining way.

Michael said...

Be ever vigilant - if you see something, say something!

To whom? The FBI?

Kyzernick said...

"Ann, Trump was the ring leader of the Birther movement. Based on what you wrote yesterday that should have been a disqualifer for you. But instead you are pushing the crazy notion that HE is the one being unfairly torn down, never mind that almost everyday he lowers the presidency with undignified personal attacks on those he considers his enemies at the moment.

Are the media and others (including many Republicans like the two President Bushes and the two most recent Republican presidential nominees) more critical and skeptical of Trump? Of course and you know why. He is a scoundrel who has made his political career on taking cheap ugly shots at individuals and vulnerable groups."

A) The birther movement was spawned out of rumors and rumbling from the Clinton campaign of 2008.

B) Where a person is born and who they are born to has a huge effect on whether or not they can be POTUS.

C) Trump has been the subject of personal attacks from all sides since the beginning of his campaign. You're just upset that he's managed to hit back so effectively.

D) The 2 most recent GOP presidents had a family member who spend millions of dollars, only to be among the first to be flattened by the Trump Train. Poor Jeb never stood a chance, and never really knew what hit him. That's a strong reason the President(s) Bush are so critical of Trump. In addition, they are Establishment Republicans, and Trump famously defied the eGOP throughout his campaign, and won anyway against an "unbeatable" opponent. Again, this makes them, and you, sad.

E) Still Clueless would be a much better handle for you. That, or Boringly Repetitive. Take your pick.

Kyzernick said...

"what about the people who still believe Obama was born n in Africa? Can we agree that a large no of them are racist?"

Please can someone let me call them a racist? Please, pretty pretty please? I really wanna call someone a racist, dammit!

IgnatzEsq said...

Althouse, serious question about whether any of your drawings are for sale? Would even be interested in one of your least loved rats.

Lem said...

If you are a Russian troll, you can get a pass by shopping from the Althouse portal.

That bottle contains pardon ink.

StephenFearby said...

Trolls of any nationality deserved to be blocked/banned from even a semi-respectable blog if the trolls have earned it.

bolivar di griz said...

Yes but discus, makes it hard to do that. Jason Matthews the fmr Russian division chief (who curiously has not been asked to comment on this issue) probably found this too ridiculous a premise, he did include a snowden type defector in the plot.

Bay Area Guy said...

You know, after the Cuban-Missile crisis, my grandparents built a bomb-shelter in their backyard, to protect against any sneak attack or invasion by the Russians. And, at school, we held "duck and cover" exercises, where, in the event of nuclear war, you were supposed to get under your desk and kinda put your head between your knees.

It was kinda scary. No kid wants to think of a nuclear war with Russia.

And now, 50+ years later, I am being triggered and tormented once again, by a cabal of nefarious Russian Trolls, sneering at our elections, mocking us from St. Petersburg, sowing discord among us, and besmirching our American way of life.

It really is too much to take. Thank God Mr. Mueller has indicted them from 14,000 miles away. Serving an arrest warrant might be challenging, but there's an Alaskan barge that could carry said warrant by sea, at least to the Eastern tip of Kazakistan, where the remainder of the journey would require a team of winter pack mules trudging through the Siberian Alps. Whatever the cost, those Russian rascals will face justice.

Bruce Gee said...

Fernandistein, if I’m not mistaken, that is taken from the classic WAITING FOR THE ELECTRICIAN, OR SOMEONE LIKE HIM…
A top favorite of my circle of friends in high school, many decades ago. And the follow up: DON’T CRUSH THAT DWARF! HAND ME THE PLYERS. We had the whole plague scene memorized. Firesign Theatre. Ah, memories.

The Germans Have A Word For That. said...

steve uhr said...
"what about the people who still believe Obama was born n in Africa?"

born 'n'?

'n' as in the 'n'-word?

Obama was born the 'N' WORD?

Steve, if you are going to be racist just come out and say it.

You could have at least had the balls to type 'ni**er.' Or even 'ni66er'.

Prissy little racist.

The Germans have a word for this.

buwaya said...

"Thank God Mr. Mueller has indicted them"

But that will not save you from the Bourbon royalist menace!

Big Mike said...

@Now I Know, Sid ("Vicious") Blumenthal, a member of Hillary Clinton's inner circle and her go-to guy for thuggery, was the first to push Obama-is-a-Kenyan, evidently based on a 1991 promotional pamphlet put out by his literary agent. The first words of the pamphlet's biography of him are:

"Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."

This matter is discussed in Snopes.com. Obama should have had the pamphet withdrawn and revised to say that he was born in Hawaii of a Kenyan father and American mother, but he didn't. Lazy.

So now you really do know.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Russians tricked stupid Americans into hating normally lovable Hillary, right?

According to the indictments, Russians held pro-Trump rallies and Anti-Trump rallies.

Here's MSNBC and CNN celebrating one of the Russian anti-Trump rallies. You know, because they are so concerned about Russian meddling and stuff.

The Germans Have A Word For That. said...

Racists like steve uhr make this site's comments hard to read sometimes.

Then again, it probably is good for him to be so out about it; at least we know where he stands.

Still, it is typical: the racist calling other people racist.

'n'-word? Obama?

Jesus H. Christ.

The Germans have a word for this.

MadisonMan said...

You know, You could just assume it's a typo, rather than thinking the worst of people.

Show me the tag linking to Ann taking a strong stance against that

Oh yes. Absence of evidence is certainly evidence of absence.

John Pickering said...

Many of Ann's Trumpalists are so unself-conscious and unanalytical that they are today repeating right here on this blog the propaganda memes the Russians were trying to instill -- the Clinton prog crime conspiracy, Killary, birth records and you name it -- and continuing to extol the very media where they think learned those things. In fact, many are certain that the Times is wrong and that the right-wing media has it right, even as they read (or not) and pooh-pooh stories about Russian espionage in the US.

It is a broad river called Da Nile, or maybe even for some a deep real antipathy to the US as it seems to be turning out. As the philosopher said, the unexamined life isn't worth living.

The Cracker Emcee Activist said...

Funny how lately the Lefties that show up seem to be frantically trying to delegitimize Althouse rather than substantively address any of the issues under discussion. With the collapse of the Mueller sideshow, they really have nothing left to pin their hopes on. Sad days for the Golden Shower Left.

Jupiter said...

Blogger Mike Sylwester said...

"Isn't "racism" a belief that people of a particular race should be treated differently because of their race?"

No, it's more complicated than that. It's hard to explain, and you probably wouldn't understand anyway, so just take it from steve, you're a racist. You need to give all your stuff to a Person of Race and then expire.

Oso Negro said...

Women's figure skating would be more popular if they just went ahead and skated topless.

Jupiter said...

John Pickering said...
"In fact, many are certain that the Times is wrong and that the right-wing media has it right, even as they read (or not) and pooh-pooh stories about Russian espionage in the US."

You know, I'm old enough to remember when stinking Commies like you made fun of people who were worried about Russian espionage.

SayAahh said...

In some circles so would men’s.

John Pickering said...

(edits, corrects typos):

Many of Ann's Trumpalists are so unself-conscious and unanalytical that they are today repeating right here on this blog the same propaganda memes the Russians are trying to instill -- the Clinton prog crime conspiracy, Killary, birth records and you name it -- and extolling the very media where they think they learned those things. In fact, many are certain that the Times is wrong and that the right-wing media has it right, even as they read (or not) and pooh-pooh stories about Russian espionage in the US.

It is a broad river called Da Nile, or maybe even for some a deep real antipathy to the US as it seems to be turning out. As the philosopher said, the unexamined life isn't worth living.

tcrosse said...

Welcome back, Inga. You still have that prissy petulance we've come to expect.

Bay Area Guy said...

Clearly, John Picketing is a Russian Troll desperately trying to sow discord here, with his pretentious grammatical corrections.

John Pickering said...

Thanks for reading. I'm old enough to catch Jupiter's reference to Sen. Joe McCarthy of Wisconsin, surely well ensconced in the pantheon of Ann's tribe.

Bay Area Guy said...

Also the river "Da Nile" is borderline racist, as you may be attempting to culturally appropriate black vernacular.

JohnAnnArbor said...

That ink is a pretty shade of blue.

Rusty said...

, 4:00 PM
"Blogger John Pickering said...
Many of Ann's Trumpalists are so unself-conscious and unanalytical that they are today repeating right here on this blog the propaganda memes the Russians were trying to instill -- the Clinton prog crime conspiracy, Killary, birth records and you name it -- and continuing to extol the very media where they think learned those things. In fact, many are certain that the Times is wrong and that the right-wing media has it right, even as they read (or not) and pooh-pooh stories about Russian espionage in the US.

It is a broad river called Da Nile, or maybe even for some a deep real antipathy to the US as it seems to be turning out. As the philosopher said, the unexamined life isn't worth living. "

Hi, John! Have you met roesh/voltair?
You two will get along famously! I know because you both are on the same side of the bell curve.

John Pickering said...

Thanks Rusty! You're right, I usually like what Voltaire writes here, but I don't know him or her personally. Ha! Though you wouldn't know from how much I've been writing here lately, I do favor the company of smart people!

JohnAnnArbor said...

In Soviet Russia, discord sows you!

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Actually John Pickering - do explain to we the deplorable exactly how Hillary didn't set up a Private Server.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

The birther movement is now the "It's illegal to talk to Russians unless you are a Democrat in need of mega-donations for your family foundation" movement.

n.n said...

Who is advising Americans to commit national suicide (e.g. excessive immigration)?

Who is a first-order forcing (e.g. warlock trials, warlock hunts, prosecutorial progression) of setting women and men at each other's throats?

Who is advocating for American dodo dynasties, an evolutionary cul-de-sac?

Who is promoting political congruence (i.e. selective exclusion), diversity (i.e. judgment/discrimination by the color of our skin), chauvinism (e.g. "feminism"), thereby dividing Americans into abrasive classes?

Who started or progressed more wars in recent memory, more social justice adventures (e.g. elective regime change) that is a first-order forcing of catastrophic anthropogenic immigration reform (a.k.a. "refugee crises") including a trail of tears from and through Africa to the Middle East to Europe?

Who is advocating for monopoly formation, a progressive fleecing (e.g. redistributive change) of Americans, and a born unPlanned penalty tax?

It seems that the Chinese, the Iranians, the Russians, the Nigerians, are the least of our concern.

John Pickering said...

Dickin here, if he's serious, is asking to be shown proof of a negative, so can't do much for that. But no, Dickin is being subtle, and offers a non-deniable fact well covered in the right wing media as evidence of presumably a crime with some other motive than to keep personal emails separate. In this case I'm guessing Dickin might suspect the motive was to advance the international and ongoing prog crime conspiracy aimed at making the Clintons rich, or richer, or fabulously rich. Am I right?

That whole intl crime conspiracy for the Clintons is exactly the stuff the Russians were propagandizing about. I agree with so many people here, who for various reasons ask people to examine their sources and be skeptical about motives.

Howard said...

Went to Church with friends yesterday and the sermon was about the demon-pig fable Althouse mentioned a while back.

It is how Jesus traveled by boat to the pagan country of the Gerasenes and cast demons out of a lunatic called "Legion" into swine who then raced into the sea and drown. The crazy dude was cured, of course, but the pagans were afeared of jesus and asked him to go home. The preacher said it was the first Bay of Pigs invasion and that Jesus invented deviled ham.

The main purpose was to implore the congregation to buck up, go out and mix with the heathen rather than be comfortable with their own kind, e.g, get outside your comfort zone.

Triangle Man said...

@n.n.

Seems like you are the one currently stirring the pot of shit. Who are you?

buwaya said...

Clinton foundation collects $2 billion, makes no grants, and accepts contributions (much if not most from foreigners including state entities) while owner thereof serves as Secretary of State, and subsequently runs for President.
And employees of which later show up as political campaign operatives, etc.
All this from public information.
Let us say this is just a teeny bit susicious.

Not a lot of US office holders or candidates have done such a thing.
One wonders why.

Paco Wové said...

Remember, people, if you think ill of the Clintons, the Russians will have won.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Pickering - She set up a private SERVER. You are saying she did no such thing, and that even if she did, it does not matter. I presume, because D.

She used it to hide what she was doing. She used it to pad her private personal fortune. Then she destroyed 30,000+ e-mails after they were subpoenaed. She also destroyed all the devices and hard-drives. Bleachbit was used. Classified documents ended up on Anthony Weiner's computer. Had any R done this, there would be hell to pay.

All of that is a fabrication by the right-wingers, according to you. That's some serious Clintonesque lying.

Jim at said...

Six weeks into his presidency, George W. Bush is enjoying a honeymoon with the American people. R/V

Bullshit.

You people are still bitching about Florida and the 2000 election ... well, except, when you're not accusing him of blowing up the Twin Towers on 9/11.

Some of us actually remember things that happened in the past. Please make a note of it.

buwaya said...

And, of course, on the email, Mr. Comey himself confirmed, in a public address and official statement, that the Secretary of State did use her private email system for business, including much secret material.
Now, I happen to know for a fact that using personal email for company business is a firing offense in all of the F1000, as a violation of all sorts of regulations, as it is for all government agencies, official secrets or not.

So hmmm, and hmmm again.

bolivar di griz said...




All sock puppets are not created equal:

https://mobile.twitter.com/GenAugustoP/status/965570467603140609?p=v

Lem said...

Brit Hume: "When Trump kept talking about Russia probe “hoax” it seems clear he was referring to investigation as it applied to him. Why? Because that’s how he looks at nearly everything"

For people who are supposedly the brightest of the bright, some in the media sure have a hard time understanding fourth grade level English.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-speaks-fourth-grade-level-174127901.html

The Cracker Emcee Classic said...

Don't eat a lot of Neccos if you're experiencing any level of TMJ. Seems obvious, I know, but...

walter said...

Right..it was Trump who made the Russia probe about him...

n.n said...

Triangle Man:

What part of my observations do you disagree with and why?

Rick said...

I agree with so many people here, who for various reasons ask people to examine their sources and be skeptical about motives.

An appropriate place for such analysis and skepticism is here:

with some other motive than to keep personal emails separate.

I'm always amused when people repeating whatever incredible explanation is offered lecture others on critical analysis.

Earnest Prole said...

Whispers of heresy in a temple of liberalism:

Confessions of a Russiagate Skeptic: Why I have my doubts about whether Trump colluded with Moscow.

Tim in Vermont said...

, Dickin is being subtle, and offers a non-deniable fact well covered in the right wing media as evidence of presumably a crime with some other motive than to keep personal emails separate. In this case I'm guessing Dickin might suspect the motive was to advance the international and ongoing prog crime conspiracy aimed at making the Clintons rich, or richer, or fabulously rich. Am I right?

She deleted thousands of emails from a time when she was also taking around 150 million dollars from Putin cronies and millions and millions of dollars from other foreigners who had business before her.

But when has a Clinton ever lied to us?

John Pickering said...

Dickin, thanks for writing, let me repeat that Hillary's setting up a private server is not deniable, the question is about her motive, and whether you agree that it was for money, as you say, to pad her personal fortune. It seems you do. The other crimes you claim were to cover up the main crime.

Well, is the crime conspiracy succeeding? Do you regard the Clintons as having gotten richer because she set up a private server? Is the issue the $2 billion in the Clinton Foundation? How much money are we talking about? Do the Clintons really still run the US government?

You may say yes, obviously, and the reason she hasn't been prosecuted as a Republican would have done is that the Clinton conspiracy obtains throughout the government 17 years after Bill left office and more than five years after Hillary left the State Department. Trouble is, no news outlet with the exception of those funded or supported or fed by Russia, is pursuing such a blockbuster story, showing the conspiracy extends to the entire capitalist media. Somehow, Hillary hasn't been caught committing financial crimes or conspiracy to pervert justice.

On the other hand Trump's obscure finances and ties to Russia have caused numerous members of his administration and campaign to plead guilty and cooperate to expiate their role in crimes alleged by the actual US government. Why are Trump's people so much less loyal and reliable than the Clintons'? Is it because they're more patriotic?

Here's what I'm trying to do: Examine sources, examine motives, examine myself.

Tim in Vermont said...

Tell us why Bill isn’t a forcible rapist, John Pickering. Tell us why all of the contemporaneous witnesses and Broaddrick herself is lying. This should be good.

Rick said...

Now I Know! said...
But instead you are pushing the crazy notion that HE is the one being unfairly torn down,


Not unfairly, stupidly. Your efforts are so inept you're making him look like the smart one. She's asking you to stop but you're too dense to do anything but continue to help him.

Tim in Vermont said...

Trouble is, no news outlet with the exception of those funded or supported or fed by Russia, is pursuing such a blockbuster story, showing the conspiracy extends to the entire capitalist media. Somehow, Hillary hasn’t been caught committing financial crimes or conspiracy to pervert justice.

LOL, You are lying to yourself! Wikileaks just published stuff that the Democrats and the media had written themselves. Nobody denies that they are genuine.

Mr. Fabulous said...

(World Famous Lurker says....)

John Pickering, just a few things -

You come here spewing hate and anger, like a petulant child. Your tears are sweet, like champagne.
Hate and anger are no substitutes for wit. And that shows in your comments
Hillary isn't President. She'll never be President.
We can feel your hate. It's not new - you're a Democrat, and Democrats are the party of hate. You project your hate onto others, but it's really you - it washes out of you. Isn't it tiring, hating all the time?
You are doing exactly what the Russians were doing - stirring up division and hate - you are colluding with the Russians!
Hillary still isn't President. She'll never be President!
You, and your fellow Democrats, are responsible for Trump. You nominated a criminal as your party's candidate for President. What is publicly known and acknowledged provides a reasonable basis to so conclude, her private server, for example. It is "smoking gun" evidence. Yet you feel entitled to lecture us on Trump.

Johnny - may I call you Johnny? You and your fellow Democrats thought that with the media's help, you could beat any Republican candidate, and so you didn't care that you were nominating a criminal. And now you're unhappy. I predict that you are going to be even more unhappy as this year progresses. The coming scandals are going to eat the heart out of the Democrat party. And you have only yourselves to blame. I do hope you hang around the blog the rest of the year though, just so I can remind you that Hillary still isn't President. She'll never be President!

Oh, and have you met Drago yet?

Tim in Vermont said...

No true American media outlet would slag Hillary! You are beyond parody, but your trust in the Clinton’s honor and integrity is well, laughable.

Rick said...

Here's what I'm trying to do: Examine sources, examine motives, examine myself.

Why don't you explain the basis of your theory that acts must succeed to be criminal.

Paco Wové said...

"Here's what I'm trying to do: ... examine myself."

Not seeing any of that.



roesch/voltaire said...

Jim that was a quote from Los Angles Times, not me which I posted to disabuse those who claimed no Republican president had a honeymoon period which is just historically inaccurate. Now yes Trump is different matter as he has TD and spoiled the honeymoon period Althouse so wants him to have.

John Pickering said...

Rick asks,

Why don't you explain the basis of your theory that acts must succeed to be criminal.

Thanks Rick, sorry, that's not my theory, in fact I am conceding the existence of Hillary's private server and her possible underlying motive of gain.
I'm trying to show that the belief she hasn't been caught and prosecuted depends on affirming a conspiracy in her favor on the part of the whole US government and the majority of the global capitalist media.
I realize many people agree, that's exactly what it is. But I would ask less credulous readers to examine sources, examine motives. Her more credulous readers are quick to show they are insulted by that.

Deep-State Reformer said...

A fine writing instrument is a really nice thing to have, but it's not so nice when you inevitably lose it though. That's why the nice Mont Blanc™ Meisterstuck I received as a graduation gift stays in my drawer. Ah, the agony and ecstasy of First World Problems, eh? I don't often write with a $500+ pen, but when I do, it's pleasure.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Then there's the matter of Seth Rich. He's dead and the D-hack press are not interested.

Tim in Vermont said...

Why did Hillary have complete contempt for the Constitution. It is Congress’s Constitutional duty to oversee the executive. Why did she keep her own server? So that she could control what Congress saw.

Bill Clinton collected 17 million dollars from the foundation, of money, a large portion of which came from Russia, for a part time job as “chancellor” of Clinton Foundation U. What the fuck is an “emolument” if not that?

Hillary destroyed not just emails from that time, but according to Huma’s testimony, she destroyed records of meetings she took with donors to her foundation who had business before the State Department.

John Pickering said...

Sorry just an insufferable quibble, don't get excited, as one of Ann's readers complains that

Your tears are sweet, like champagne.

A note to some of Ann's readers, regarding Champagne: Someday, you might find you like it better, if you drink it dry.



Paco Wové said...

"I'm trying to show that the belief she hasn't been caught and prosecuted"

Caught and prosecuted for what, exactly? She was "caught", as far as the illegal server becoming public knowledge. As to why she wasn't prosecuted, you'll have to ask James Comey and Peter Strzok about that. Something about "gross negligence" transmorphing into "extreme carelessness".

Tim in Vermont said...

Your faith in Eric Holder’s Just-Us department is touching, as well. I would say that you are the one who is “credulous” Look at the ’96 fundraising scandals if you want a measure of the corruption of the Clintons, and yes, the press covers for them.

Tim in Vermont said...

Something about "gross negligence" transmorphing into "extreme carelessness".


Using “Inga’s Razor,” you can demonstrate that that never happened, on account of it is inconvenient to Pickering’s argument.

buwaya said...

The emails were not "separate". In fact as per, among other things, per the State Departments own IG's investigation, she never used the official secure system at all, preferring her own.

That alone is a regulatory violation of great magnitude. A lesser being would have been immediately fired, and prosecuted, along with anyone who enabled it, or knew and did not report it immediately. After all, if the Sec State is sending and receiving everything from all the most senior people in the gov, including state secrets, effectively in the clear (so awful is blackberry security) ....

Now, it is impossible for the rest of the government, of which she was the senior cabinet member, to remain ignorant of all this. She sent out a LOT of emails, most of them from her unsecured blackberry.

We come to the question of why all these dogs did not bark.

None have been questioned. The investigators did not bother.

Yet more dogs not barking.

Curiouser and curiouser.

And the press, as we know, is quite good at not being curious, about certain matters, they have quite consistent form here, which itself is rather curious.

In the end one is left with a rather large zone of curiosity. One wonders why Democrats, for instance, do not perceive this anomaly. In their complaints about Trump et al, they swallow this mountain while straining at gnats.

Meade said...

"Now yes Trump is different matter as he has TD and spoiled the honeymoon period Althouse so wants him to have."

Actually, if you go by the Gallup poll, Trump in fact did have a honeymoon period. It was from January 25 to January 26, 2017.

Static Ping said...

Talking about pens, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court has taken upon itself to rewrite the Congressional districts based on certain rules that they said the state constitution required. Apparently their new map violates their own rules but, coincidentally, is much better for the Democrats.

Paco Wové said...

"aimed at making the Clintons rich, or richer, or fabulously rich."

How rich are the Clintons, anyway?

2014 family Income: $28 million

Estimated family net worth: $110 million


Yowza! They sure got that "doing well by doing good" down. So, what do those numbers qualify as: rich, richer, fabulously rich?

Static Ping said...

The kicker is the map is even more friendly to the Democrats than the Democratic Party's own suggested map. It's a rather amazingly piece of judicial activism. To be fair, the old map was very gerrymandered in favor of the Republicans, but when the court is even more biased than the party that they are favoring that says something.

langford peel said...

Roachy if you think the press which is part and parcel of the Democratic Liberal party would let the God Emperor have a honeymoon......well you probably thin "Reds" was the greatest movie ever made.

It doesn't matter anyway. The God Emperor will truimph no matter what the Deep State and the Swamp through at him. Watch and See.

WOLVERINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr. Fabulous said...

(World Famous Lurker says....)

Well, that's a fair criticism John. I dropped the period at the end of the next line as well. The hazards of quick blog commenting.

In the spirit of your "Examine sources, examine motives, examine myself" I suggest that you examine and reconsider the potential criminality of Hillary's server. Forget motive, yoga emails, erased emails, etc. that you keep referring to. Simply setting up that server involved several felonies. She involved others as well, then they took actions to carry out the felonies, so conspiracy as a multiplier. It has been noted here and many other places - there are Americans sitting in jail right now for violating security laws that didn't do 1% of what Hillary and her team did. I noticed at the time that the press just skipped past that part, and only wanted to discuss if any of the emails were "marked Secret", or whatever. Note that intent is not required here, as is typical of security laws. We know that Hillary has admitted setting up the server. The only reason she's not in jail, is that she wasn't charged, even though any ordinary American would have been arrested, tried and convicted by now.

And then you and the Democrats nominated her for President. Based upon your comments, I'd expect that you voted for her. You voted for the criminal. Me, I chose the least worst choice. I was hoping for a minimum of a good Supreme Count pick. Based upon my low expectations, I've been quite pleased with Trump. So now when you come here to complain about Trump, and talk to our hostess as if she's an apostate that deserves the worst of your fury, I find your hate and tears as sweet as the honey my neighbor brings me a couple of times a year. (Better? Not brilliant, I know.)

Michael said...

Let us say you work for me at xyz.com but decide to do company business through your gmail account. When, not if, I find this out I will fire you. As will every single CEO in America dealing with proprietary information. Which is all of them

And, by the way, no CEO will give a shit what your intentions were, what your motive was.

buwaya said...

In fact, there has been, lately, quite an epidemic of incuriosity. Across many spheres. This is quite odd, and quite un-American.

There are places where this is normal, where it is known, implicitly, that one must not "go there", for the sake of, well, the interests of everyone directly involved, the public excepted.

And this leads to perpetual ineffectiveness or inefficiency of this system or that process, of things not getting done, or funds somehow vanishing, or all sorts of monkey business.

This was not the American way. The American abroad was a nexus of chaos, of overturning, of the application of the hot needle of inquiry (thank you David Niven). He made people uncomfortabe, disrupted rest, made the rich poor and the poor rich, went where angels feared to tread, and made devils consider retirement.

He was like, in an ideal sort, one of my heroes (unknown in his own country, to its shame) an American businessman in Manila, Chick Parsons. A self made man, an adventurer, a rich man, and a USN reservist. A very curious man. He was in the stevedoring business, and my Godfather, also in that business, knew him well.

When war came he was called up into Naval Intelligence -as a spy. He pretended to be a neutral diplomat and so got himself and his family repatriated from the Japanese occupied country. He reported to MacArthur in Australia, and was sent back by submarine, to gather guerilla reports and collect his own information. He pretended to be a native (at which he was very able! curiosity has many benefits) and proceeded, in disguise, throughout the Japanese occupied islands, meeting everyone that mattered. My grandfather put him up for a few days in his safehouse. He returned, again by submarine, and dictated a very lengthy report, entirely from memory, as he could not safely carry notes. The report is a classic of its kind - the original, given to Willoughby, MacArthurs intelligence chief, is available online, though I will have to look for the link.

Thats the kind of American we knew.

But here in his homeland this curious fellow, this revealer, this bold, enterprising sort, is becoming extinct. As we see so many examples of this, such as our friend Pickering. Chick Parsons he is not. Pickering will not risk torture and beheading to find the truth. He is a weak descendant of great men.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Why did Hillary have complete contempt for the Constitution. It is Congress’s Constitutional duty to oversee the executive. Why did she keep her own server? So that she could control what Congress saw.

Bill Clinton collected 17 million dollars from the foundation, of money, a large portion of which came from Russia, for a part time job as “chancellor” of Clinton Foundation U. What the fuck is an “emolument” if not that?

Hillary destroyed not just emails from that time, but according to Huma’s testimony, she destroyed records of meetings she took with donors to her foundation who had business before the State Department.


Leftists don't care. Because D.

Seeing Red said...

Uh oh via Rantburg:

You knew this was coming, tho (grin):

Corruption
[The Federalist] On Friday, Judge Emmet Sullivan issued an order in United States v. Flynn that, while widely unnoticed, reveals something fascinating: A motion by Michael Flynn to withdraw his guilty plea based on government misconduct is likely in the works.

Just a week ago, and thus before Sullivan quietly directed Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team to provide Flynn’s attorneys "any exculpatory evidence," Washington Examiner columnist Byron York detailed the oddities of Flynn’s case. The next day, former assistant U.S. attorney and National Review contributing editor Andrew McCarthy connected more of the questionable dots. York added even more details a couple of days later. Together these articles provide the backdrop necessary to understand the significance of Sullivan’s order on Friday....



John Pickering said...

Mr Fab, thanks for writing and engaging in this inquiry. But I am sorry that you pass so quickly over my point about motive, for it has to be in examining why Hillary committed these crimes that we can understand them, and explain why they have gone unprosecuted by the government. I thought some of you maintain that part of the reason for setting up the server is that the Clintons lead an international criminal conspiracy focused on their personal enrichment, to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars or maybe $2 billion. OK, that's a motive.

Instead, you seem to be arguing that if she had been in IT or HR department at some place like Goldman Sachs or Walmart or fill in the blanks, she would have been fired, or jailed. Yet the government hasn't decided to prosecute, nor the media to investigate, a crime that perhaps amounts to fraud.

Also, I like to tweak Ann a bit because my perception is she's a big girl and knows what she's doing and is honest with herself. I sometimes think she doesn't think things through to my satisfaction, and so I write. No disrespect and of course I appreciate Ann for running the blog. Mr Fab, you're right, that last bit ain't brilliant, but it's OK

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

This "government" you talk about is filled with people who are loyal democrats and loyal Clinton supporters. to the bitter end. corrupt to the core, and all in charge of the swamp.

It's long past time to drain it.

Mid-Life Lawyer said...

The perfect color - midnight blue.

Bay Area Guy said...

@Seeing Red,

Clearly, the unmasking and/or leaking of the Flynn-Kislyak telephone call was illegal. There may have been a broad FISA warrant to tap Kislyak, but there was not likely a warrant to tap Flynn.

If the product of that illegal taping was used to bully Flynn into a guilty plea, Mueller has a 4th Amendment problem. Newly assigned Judge Sullivan saw a LOT of prosecutorial misconduct in the Ted Stevens case.

Hmm. "Seeing Red" might be a false identity. How can we be sure you're not a Russian Troll sowing discord?

Kathryn51 said...

Mr. Fabulous said...
(World Famous Lurker says....)

Hillary isn't President. She'll never be President.. . . .
. I do hope you hang around the blog the rest of the year though, just so I can remind you that Hillary still isn't President. She'll never be President!

Oh, and have you met Drago yet?


I never get tired of reading it - saying it: Hillary Clinton will never be President. It's why I sleep soundly (peacefully) every night since Election Night 2016.

Seeing Red said...

Hehehe I'll never tell, comrade.

Seeing Red said...

Hillary isn't president. Dick Morris was right all those years ago. Who would have thought?

John Pickering said...

Dickin expresses a paranoia of the tribe, but seems uninformed about the politics of the federal police operated by the current government, led by Republicans. The rank and file are mainly Republicans, too. Do you know any FBI agents? I'm sure many of Ann's readers do, and might opine. Maybe luckily for the country, they're just not Trumpalists.

Kathryn51 said...

buyawa --

Thank you for your comment re: Chick Parsons. Thanks to you, I visited the Wikipedia page on this hero - maybe someone will make a movie some day.

One of the footnotes on the page mentioned other heroes/heroines:

^ Blanche was a volunteer at Emmanuel Methodist Hospital, Tondo, Manila. Betrayed by a Japanese double-agent, Franco Vera Reyes, in January 1944, Blanche Jurika, Dr. Hawthorne Darby, nurse Helen Jonaline Wilk, Methodist pastor Mary Litt Boyd Stagg, and a woman named Sybil were taken by the Kempeitai to the Cementerio del Norte where they were beheaded and buried on 29 or 30 August 1944: "Blanche was dead, executed in late August, 1944, hands tied behind her, blindfolded and kneeling over a newly-dug trench somewhere in Manila’s North Cemetery, killed with over two dozen other civilians accused of various acts of conspiracy by the Japanese. For Blanche and the few other American women, death was by beheading by Samurai sword. For the men, it had been a single shot to the back of the head." —Louis Jurika [2] Their common grave was found by Thomas Walker Jurika in 1945 with the reluctant help of another double-agent, Richard Sakakida.[3]

Every few days, I see a post about "Wonderful Women" or something like that on FB and it's usually about female pioneers in science or medicine. I never see anything regarding women such as Blanche Jurika.

Mr. Fabulous said...

(World Famous Lurker says....)

John, regarding your wanting to know what Hillary's motive was, and why she wasn't charged - You are correct, I don't care that much about her motive, as the felonies I referenced aren't predicated on her motive or intent. Your comment that she wanted to use the server to facilitate graft could be correct - we already have some possible examples, such as Uranium One, and the $145 million contribution to the Clinton Fund from the Russians.

I'm curious, are you really interested in why the feds didn't charge her, or are you raising that point only to argue that if she was really guilty, the FBI and the Obama DoJ wouldn't possibly have let her go, no sirree, so she must be innocent!

Me, I'm willing to wait a while before coming to a firm conclusion. The DoJ IG report is due out in a few weeks, and while the MSM is not really covering it, there are clear signs that one or several serious scandals are about to break, ones that even the compliant MSM won't be able to ignore. (I'm sure they'll spin though.)

Oh, and no matter what, Hillary still isn't the President, and never will be the President. (Just wanted to say that one more time for Kat51 and me.)

Seeing Red said...

What has the rank and file have to do with Mueller and the high ranking FBI agents?

The FBI has serious issues with Ruby Ridge and whatever went on in Oregon, much less this dossier.

bolivar di griz said...

Tits based on the peter eisner book, isn't it. Yes it translates very well to the big screen.

Seeing Red said...

Via Rantburg:

[Spectator] Foreign nationals swarmed swing states at invitation of Clinton campaign.

Amid the news that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has indicted 13 Russians charged with trying to influence an American election? The American Spectator has been tipped to a damning article published in Buzzfeed UK two days before the 2016 election. An article that documents in detail a stunning fact. The BuzzFeed UK headline:

Lots Of British People Are In The US Campaigning For Hillary Clinton

Good luck finding any British volunteers working on the Donald Trump campaign.

In what the Mueller indictments clearly state is a violation of U.S. law, the Hillary Clinton campaign was specifically inviting “at least 70 British Labour activists” to campaign for Clinton in Charlotte, North Carolina. And North Carolina wasn’t the only swing state of the 2016 campaign to get visits from British Leftists at the behest of the Clinton campaign.

John Pickering said...

Mr. Fab, if we disregard motive, how do establish the meaning of the crime? Was Hillary's private server part of the intl crime conspiracy aimed at netting her billions or was it a bad judgement that would have gotten her fired, if she was Goldman's IT chief? I think that matters, and probably matters to the investigators, who haven't prosecuted.

Motive is so important, illustrated for example by Trump's firing of Comey: was there a corrupt intent? And also, prosecutors have to judge, how corrupt? Again, as regards Hillary's potential prosecutors, what do you reckon is their motive in squelching the probe? A share of her billions? Perhaps that's what the DoJ IG will conclude, I'll look forward to that as well.

By the way I didn't support Hillary as she was running and always said she would be a bad president. Thanks for indulging me in complaining that this new fellow is just plain awful by my squishy standards.

buwaya said...

If you want heroic American women, there were lots in 1941-45, in that part of the world.

Yay Panlilios story (Irish-Filipino-American) would make an interesting movie, with a very PC, "multi ethnic" heroine. She was an experienced prewar journalist and broadcaster in Manila in the English-language press. Very much a "Girl Friday" in speech and manner - see the Rosalind Russell-Cary Grant movie for what I mean. A divorced mother with three kids, she joins US Army Intelligence as a "stay behind" agent when Manila is evacuated.

She was suspected of passing information by radio, so, warned, she fled to the hills, where she joined up with a band of guerillas, married their chieftain, an ex-truck driver, and became the "den mother" organizer of guerilla operations for three years, her main weapon being her typewriter - people tended to obey typed orders better. The husband and wife pair were some of the few guerilla chiefs to survive the brutal Luzon guerrilla/intelligence war - the casualty rate was extreme, most agents and guerilla chiefs didnt last long. By 1945 she was a Philippine Army colonel leading a regiment attached to the US 43rd Infantry Division.

She was the only one of the survivors to write her own memoir (several other American guerrillas had biographers/ghostwriters).

Her book, "The Crucible" is $ 3.99 on Amazon.

A strong contender for an equally good book is John Keats semi-novelized account of Wendell Fertig.

exiledonmainstreet said...


"I never get tired of reading it - saying it: Hillary Clinton will never be President"

Yes! The best thing about this President's day is knowing that The Donald is in the WH and Hillary is not.

buwaya said...

The investigators have to be suspected of corruption, as it is criminal behavior regardless of purpose.

More, everyone involved, including all who sent matters of official government business to her private email, also violated US law, and everyone who engaged in this crime has to be removed and prosecuted. Thats a lot of people, many, very likely, still in government service. This includes Ex-President Obama.

And yet more, everyone even AWARE of this who did not take proper action, likewise.

This level of sanction is required if one is to even pretend to maintain security and discipline.

This is why what she did is so fundamentally destructive. The entire security process of the highest reaches of the US government were rendered useless. The whole world (or their intelligence services) could read a large chunk of what the USG was thinking. The only people in the world who dont know what the Obama administration was up to are the US public.

The idea of opening that can of worms probably scared Comey and co. silly. In part because of the vast reach of the failure, but not least because they certainly knew about it from the first day, and did nothing.

Mark said...

So I've finally watched some of the Olympics.

Why are people not watching? I repeat -- one reason is made up "sports" like freestyle skiing, like this stupid half-pipe thing I watched. It's annoying watching skateboarding dudes do this kind of thing and it was annoying having NBC put so much emphasis on this rather than a traditional Olympic sport.

And then, for all of the blabbering of the inane announcers, I'm watching the ice dancing and it was like watching on C-SPAN, with a complete absence of any play-by-play or commentary explaining the elements met or needed. And except for first place, there was no leaderboard to be able to follow the whole competition or put things in context. The comments they did make after the end of a skate also offered nothing of substance or value.

buwaya said...

Good Lord, just imagine it.
Your Secretary of State (your Foreign Minister) simply sent and received into her insecure systems (there were actually several) all high level communications with the rest of the cabinet and high level sub-cabinet officials, sharing, most certainly, communications from and to foreign governments and US intelligence agencies. Every one of these was certainly intercepted, as Washington is the most spied-on place on Earth.

And its not just a US problem. The US is critical, everyone, even its enemies, depends on a competent US government. This extreme idiocy was a global threat.

And every one of your security systems and security agencies, and the whole executive branch, tolerated this madness for years. And you don't wonder why?

If one of Metternichs clerks had decoded and copied his letters, left them lying about in some Vienna tavern, and let foreign spies steal them, the good Prince would have had the scoundrel hanged.

Mark said...

Talking about pens, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court has taken upon itself to rewrite the Congressional districts based on certain rules that they said the state constitution required

That would conflict with both the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution and Article 1, Section 4, which states that: "The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof." Neither the state supreme court nor the state constitution have a role in the process.

n.n said...

And every one of your security systems and security agencies, and the whole executive branch, tolerated this madness for years. And you don't wonder why?

Quid pro quo. This may be the single reason why the 1% and their domestic servants deemed Trump to be an existential threat that merited a high risk campaign to override the democratic will of the People, and could and may yet expose their influence of elections, governments, institutions, and processes.

Who am I kidding. Trump may be good, but he's not that good, or secure. Most likely, he will become a "good American", and go along to get along. That is the historical standard in environments with virtual and actual monopolies.

n.n said...

re: quid pro quo

Go along to get along or "good Americans". Also, it seems, Soviet-era relics who emerge from the swamp to prey on people's latent fears. As well as swamp creatures (e.g. social industry) who manipulate people through emotional and paradoxical arguments. We live in interesting, politically congruent times, in the twilight fringe.

Tim in Vermont said...

was it a bad judgement that would have gotten her fired, if she was Goldman's IT chief? I think that matters, and probably matters to the investigators, who haven't prosecuted.

Motive is so important, illustrated for example by Trump's firing of Comey: was there a corrupt intent?


So bad judgment is out as a motive for Trump, but front and center for Hillary? Of course with Hillary, the emails covered a time when she was collecting hundreds of millions of dollars for her corrupt enterprise, that even her own daughter tried to reform, but when her daughter put in a new head to the foundation, he was quickly pushed out for the old hands from the good old days of the late nineties.

Dickin expresses a paranoia of the tribe, but seems uninformed about the politics of the federal police operated by the current government, led by Republicans.

Since you trust the press so much, why don’t you go read the WaPo about how Mueller and Comey were not only great friends, “brothers in arms,” but were proteges of Eric Holder. the same Eric Holder who put together the Marc Rich pardon, you know, the pardon of a tax cheat to the tune of $200 million dollars? That Eric Holder?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2017/live-updates/trump-white-house/trump-comey-and-russia-how-key-washington-players-are-reacting/brothers-in-arms-the-long-friendship-between-mueller-and-comey/?utm_term=.7a45586ead6f

Why didn’t Mueller recuse himself?

And at the bottom of it, since your objection has to do with your faith that the press will do their jobs and cover the Clintons fairly, why don’t you tell me about how you can read this fact set, and come to the conclusion that Bill Clinton, Harvey Weinstien’s close friend, didn’t forcibly rape Juanita Broaddrick.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/1999/03/is_juanita_broaddrick_telling_the_truth.html

Notice that liberal Slate reserves judgement, but if you read it yourself, I don’t see how you can come to any other conclusion but that he did it. Maybe you can. The reason I think this is so important is that it goes to your point about trust that the media will cover inconvenient facts about the Clintons. And remember, this wasn’t some starlet looking for a break into the big time, it was a constituent, a woman business owner, who wanted to talk to the governor of Arkansas IN THE LOBBY of a hotel, who was inveigled back to a private room, Weinstein style, by His Nibs, himself. He utterly dismissed the self that Broaddrick presented as an empowered woman seeking to offer ideas on her industry, and converted her, in his mind, to a walking vagina whose mouth was making unfortunate noises. Some feminist.

Tim in Vermont said...

n.n. You know you and I disagree to an extent on abortion, although I wouldn’t be heart broken if your side won at the Federal level and it was left to a democratic vote at the states, but you are one of the top commenters here, in my book.

I can’t help but notice that the male commenters here who support abortion the loudest, also find time to brag about using women like Kleenex, basically. It’s almost like unfettered abortion is a kind of “tax cut” for them.

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Tim in Vermont said...

I sometimes think she doesn’t think things through to my satisfaction, - John Pickering

Crap! I spit coffee all over my keyboard on that one! Thanks God I hadn’t put maple syrup in it, as I sometimes do.

Tim in Vermont said...

You know John, that’s what the comments are for. Man up buddy!

Narayanan Subramanian said...

What could be a better back channel than an unsecured server ... Transparent in a sense, boastfully so, like a one way mirror!

Paco Wové said...

I have to give J. P. credit for novelty in legal theorizing here. Unless we know exactly why a person (let's call her H.C.) commits an illegal act, how can we consider it illegal? along with If the media don't report it, it's not a crime.