November 30, 2017

At the Bittersweet Café...

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... you can talk about whatever you want.

And shop all you want through the Althouse Amazon Portal.

Meade brought that bittersweet home, after helping a neighbor do some pruning. I clipped it into shape and got it into the vase, which was weirdly hard to do. Bittersweet gets entwined with itself, and the orange berries fall off if you try to disentangle it, get rid of the empty sticks, and coax things into an upright posture.

136 comments:

MadisonMan said...

Bittersweet looks great after a snowfall. Alas, no snow to speak of in the forecast.

rehajm said...

Repost of Bitcoin and Bubbles

rehajm said...
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rehajm said...

Anyone else getting 502 Errors linking here lately?

Earnest Prole said...

Bittersweet gets entwined with itself

Truer words were never spoken.

Bay Area Guy said...

John Conyers' attorney, Arnold Reed:

"There are to my count five of these allegations against Al Franken. There are four — three or four — against the congressman. At the end of the day, I would suspect that Nancy Pelosi is going to have to explain what is the discernable difference between Al Franken and John Conyers. That is a question that she is going to have to answer. And again, he is not going to be pressured by Nancy Pelosi or anyone else to step down. That decision will be made by Congressman Conyers as to what his next course is. That will not be today, that will not be tomorrow."

Democrat sexual harasser card meets the Democrat race card -- news at 11:00

TML said...

Bittersweet is just absolutely gorgeous. Very few things say
"Holidays" more to me. Lovely.

Khesanh 0802 said...

I happened to run into this while grazing on the net. World War Two female Spitfire pilot dies, aged 94 She was still as spunky at 94 as she appears in her RAF uniform.

AllenS said...

Alfranken, never ever tried to grab the ass of a black woman, which means that he's a racist. Right?

Bay Area Guy said...

Media/Hollywood Gropefest 2017 continues.

Geraldo Rivera groped Bette Midler in bathroom.

When will all the groping madness end?

AllenS said...

Tiger Woods is back on the professional golf tour. He's not doing too bad for being out of the game for so long. Good thing that he golfed with the POTUS Donald Trump the other day, and listened to Trump's advice and golf tips. Winning. It affects everyone willing to listen.

Michael K said...

"Geraldo Rivera groped Bette Midler in bathroom."

Was that when she was singing in the gay bath house with Barry Manilow as her accompanist?

Michael K said...

"Anyone else getting 502 Errors linking here lately?"

Very slow and lots of errors. I usually attribute this to Comcast but it seems to be Blogger.

Big Mike said...

It’s Blogger. Instapundit and Hot Air work fine.

tim in vermont said...
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Bay Area Guy said...

We should have a "grope free" Friday tomorrow, where we only discuss happy things: beer, wine, college football, walks in the park, jazz music, skiing in Tahoe, renting a speed boat in San Diego, sunsets of San Francisco, attractive women with nice smiles, reading good books by a warm fireplace at night -- that kinda stuff.

Ann Althouse said...

I’ve been having a lot of trouble with Blogger.

AllenS said...

I'm not sure what happened earlier, but now things are ok. Did you wipe the server down with a cloth or something?

Ignorance is Bliss said...

Bay Area Guy said...

We should have a "grope free" Friday...

Thanks, but I'll wait for the "free grope" Friday myself...

AllenS said...

... and just as I said that, my comment took about a minute to appear.

tim in vermont said...

I think that anybody who compares Trump to Hitler is kind of a Holocaust denier.

tim in vermont said...

I mean anybody who says that they are equivalent.

Rick Turley said...

Hope this is the native bittersweet and not the Asian one, which is invasive and can be destructive of the tree on which it is growing. They are not easy to tell apart. Both of the have separate male and female plants.

Darrell said...

Elizabeth Warren can now go to Brown U. They let you self-identify.

https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/39422/

George M. Spencer said...

A cost-benefits analysis of whether it is better to attack North Korea now or continue the policy of deterrence. Author is a research fellow at the "Systemic Risk Centre" at the London School of Economics.

"Given these assumptions, a war in 2018 will cause 1.4 million Japanese-South Korean-U.S. deaths (25 weapons (20 kt) * 50% chance of successful detonation * 112,000 deaths per successful detonation). The number of deaths resulting from war will increase by 1.1 million per year (4 additional weapons (250 kt) * 50% chance of a successful detonation * 546 deaths per successful detonation). It follows that a war in 2019 will cause expected deaths of 2.5 million, a war in 2020 will cause expected deaths of 3.6 million, and so on. A war in 2048 will cause expected deaths of 34.2 million."

You have got to think that all these numbers have been run over and over by teams in the Pentagon.

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Karen said...

There's a beauty in the randomness that you don't get if you coax it into a "better" shape.
Your arrangement is perfect!

Big Mike said...

Does anyone remember the recent kerfuffle over Sarah Sanders' chocolate pecan pie? According to a tweet linked to by Glenn Reynolds, April Ryan -- the sweet lady from MSNBC who made the claim on zero point zero zero evidence that Sanders had not backed said pie -- has not received an invitation to the White House Christmas Party. “I don’t think I was overlooked,” she said. “I think they don’t like me. For whatever reason, they have disdain for me.” Well, April, it occurs to me that they might overlook your assertion that Sanders did not bake the pie, but when you later said you would not take a bite of said pie because "you guys don’t like the press," that was maybe a bridge too far.

Karen said...

There's a beauty in the randomness that you don't get if you coax it into a "better" shape.
Your arrangement is perfect!

tim in vermont said...

They had so much fun with their imaginary "plastic turkey"

Chuck said...

The reason that it is so easy for Dems to jettison Conyers is because he's now an embarrassment to their party. Conyers is senile; or crazy; or both. His seat is as safe a seat for Dems as there is in the House.

When the liberal, aggressively progressive Deatroit Free Press calls on Conyers to resign (indeed was one of the first entities to do so), you know it is all over.

Under Article I, Conyers' seat will be put up for a special election. Michigan's Republican governor won't appoint a Republican to hold it until a special election. And so a Democrat will take it again. And all that the Democrats lose is a potentially large embarrassment. The whole Conyers Enterprise, from the felon wife, to the not-ready-for-prime-time staff and entourage, to the Congressman himself (who quit doing interviews a long time ago for fear of his embarrassing himself as he did when he wandered out of a campaign meeting with the Freep Editorial Board).

Disappearing for 2-3 weeks back at the height of the crack epidemic in the 80's; being picked up by Detroit Police with no pants in the median of Livernois Avenue during an off-year campaign for mayor; sitting in his federal building office while his wife was sentenced to federal prison two floors below; a hundred other bizarre statements to journalists or in Congressional hearings... it is all vintage Conyers.

They have been trying to leverage Conyers out of the Judiciary Committee leadership for more than a year. I still believe that it was Dems who outed this story. It was in their interest to do it. At least some of them.

Republicans could learn a valuable lesson in this; to cut ties with the outlier members of the party against whom credible allegations have been made.

rehajm said...

“I think they don’t like me. For whatever reason, they have disdain for me.”

Reason: The White House Christmas Party is a light hearted affair that you would wreck by pooping on the rug.

n.n said...

Democrat sexual harasser card meets the Democrat race card -- news at 11:00

Pro-Choice. I wonder who will be selected.

Does the unholy collusion of male and female chauvinists offer greater leverage than color diversity?

tim in vermont said...

The problem Chuck, is that Republicans lose a Senate seat, where the Democrats lose nothing getting rid of both. When it mattered, the Democrats have shown no such integrity in the past, and if the situation comes up in the future where it would cost them, they will change the rules again. I don't like Moore, I haven't liked him since I first heard of him and he flashed a gun on stage. But that's a pretty low cost move by them, and looks pretty racist if they don't dump Franken too.

tim in vermont said...

Both Franken and Conyers, like Clinton, abused their public office.

Bay Area Guy said...

@Chuck,

Good assessment of Conyers, that clown.

Republicans could learn a valuable lesson in this; to cut ties with the outlier members of the party against whom credible allegations have been made.

Hmmmm. I wonder who you could be referring to.........

n.n said...

Bitcoin and Bubbles

Bitcoin is approaching a computational limit.

tim in vermont said...

" There were very fine people on both sides of the Civil War" Doug Jones

You don't suppose that Jones was one of those "very fine people" who supported keeping Confederate monuments? A month ago, that was straight up racism. Now, of course, the rules are different. Different situation, different morality.

tim in vermont said...

Bitcoin reminds me of the Dutch search for arbitrarily highly valued sequences of DNA in tulip bulbs, except they called them breeders, not miners.

n.n said...

cut ties with the outlier members of the party against whom credible allegations

Will Republicans deny due process (a la abortionists, class diversitists)?

Will they submit to a lower standard of jurisprudence including trial by press (i.e. bullhorn prosecutions), and a lower standard of evidence including a preponderance of allegations?

Does avoiding social liberalism and potentially licentious behavior (e.g. trans-social) in the course of courtship count as progress?

Are Republicans Pro-Choice?

Fabi said...

Rumors are swirling about the release of thousands of DNC emails that Seth Rich gave to WikiLeaks.

I don't know how much credence I give the rumors, but the person has been correct more often than not. I'm not sure our resident lefties, and their LLR little buddy, can stand much more bad news this year. If true, it may be the worst news they've ever heard.

Michael K said...

" to cut ties with the outlier members of the party against whom credible allegations have been made."

I vote McCain is ousted. Ducey will appoint a Republican, unlike McCain.

Big Mike said...

@tim in vermont, concerning the debate between Ted Cruz and Tim Scott versus Bernie Sanders and Maria Cantwell, is everyone in Vermont as economically illiterate as Bernie Sanders.

Chuck said...

tim in vermont said...
The problem Chuck, is that Republicans lose a Senate seat, where the Democrats lose nothing getting rid of both. When it mattered, the Democrats have shown no such integrity in the past, and if the situation comes up in the future where it would cost them, they will change the rules again. I don't like Moore, I haven't liked him since I first heard of him and he flashed a gun on stage. But that's a pretty low cost move by them, and looks pretty racist if they don't dump Franken too.

Will it surprise you much if I acknowledge how compelling your observation is?

The problem was in the Alabama primary. Where the assclown Bannon put this guy up, despite Republicans having a good candidate who'd have won easily in the general. Bannon and all the shit heads who voted for Moore. That is the problem. And we wouldn't have this problem if Luther Strange was running as the Republican nominee in the special.

Even if someone were to agree with the importance of the Alabama Senate seat, the fact remains that this is a problem because of the support for Moore in the primary. It will be a problem, just as you describe, if Moore loses; and it will remain a problem if Moore wins.

btw; in a case more like John Conyers than Roy Moore, it looks like Republican Congressman Joe Barton (TX-6) won't seek re-election.


Drago said...

"....the s*** heads who voted for Moore."

Filed under: Terms our LLR has never used for any democrat/lefty/liberal voters anywhere at anytime for any reason.

Unexpectedly.

Drago said...

"Bowe Bergdahl Republican" Chuck: "btw; in a case more like John Conyers than Roy Moore, it looks like Republican Congressman Joe Barton (TX-6) won't seek re-election."

Well, who could have guessed that?!

Joe Bartons case is utterly different from that of John Conyers. Not even in the same universe.

But the democrat/lefty narrative/meme is that Joe Barton, who is a potential victim of revenge porn by mature women with whom he had consensual relations, is actually worse than a serial (over decades) sexual abuser of women.

Once again, LLR Chuck has "accidentally" aligned with the false lefty talking points of the day!

Wow.

How. Does. That. Keep. Happening?!

It's inexplicable I tellya!

Darrell said...

Jeb! likes Luther Strange. Chuck likes Luther Strange. Why don't you people like Luther Strange? Oh that's right--open borders, globalist agenda--everything people were sick and tired of. That's why Trump nuked Canada in this week's South Park.

Francisco D said...

@ Michael K.

I suspect McCain will be dead by the time I arrive in Oro Valley - next May if the builders are efficient with their time.

On to other topics

Bette Midler performed with The Harlottes and Barry Manilow at some major Chicago venues. I can't remember where, but I saw them in 1972. Guys in the front row were wearing raincoats and dropped them towards the end of the show. You can guess what was underneath - bath towels. My girlfriend convinced me to go. I was a pretty good show.

tim in vermont said...

Somebody once said that Bernie Sanders learned all of the history and economics he knows from the Marxist used book store on Church Street.

steve uhr said...

Cowboy Roy's fav song: Mamas don't let your babies grow up to be Cowboys

"Cowboys like smokey ol' pool rooms and clear mountain mornings

Little warm puppies and children and girls of the night ..."

rhhardin said...

World War Two female Spitfire pilot dies, aged 94

One of the instructors when I started flying lessons at age 15 was a woman, left over from WWII.

Chuck said...

Jeb! likes Luther Strange. Chuck likes Luther Strange. Why don't you people like Luther Strange? Oh that's right--open borders, globalist agenda--everything people were sick and tired of. That's why Trump nuked Canada in this week's South Park.

Trump! liked Luther Strange. Enough to endorse him. One of those rare instances where Trump accepted good advice.

Darrell said...

Trump! liked Luther Strange.

Trump played nice for Republicans' sake. Backbiting Republican cocksuckers like you, Chuck.

Darrell said...

If Mitch McConnell had anything to do with the slander and libel against Moore, he should be kicked out of the Party. With steel-toed boots.

Michael K said...

" the fact remains that this is a problem because of the support for Moore in the primary."

Those damn voters again !

steve uhr said...

Darrell. Why do you think Moore won't ever be suing his victims for defamation? Sit for a deposition? No thanks

tim in vermont said...

But Steinem said she did not regret writing the New York Times article in the first place." - The Guardian

Big Mike said...

The problem Chuck, is that Republicans lose a Senate seat, where the Democrats lose nothing ...

The solution is easy. Vote for Moore. If it turns out that the stories are true, refuse to seat him and Kay Ivey gets to select a Republican. A life long Republican should agree to that.

tim in vermont said...

Feminists really care about this stuff.

Darrell said...

It's still slander and libel--- even if you don't go to court. Lies financed by the opposition, just not formally proven. Like when the NYT libeled Sarah Palin.

Fabi said...

"Where the assclown Bannon put this guy up, despite Republicans having a good candidate who'd have won easily in the general. Bannon and all the shit heads who voted for Moore. That is the problem."

You're becoming a parody of yourself.

Darrell said...

If it turns out that the stories are true

How will it be proved? More lies? Moore said he doesn't know the two women who allegations could have brought criminal charges if they were filed within the SOL. So far, major problems have been found with their allegations. Unless they confess that they were lying, the allegations with hang in the air, just like the smell of Chuck when he leaves a room.

traditionalguy said...

Putin says Trump is taunting the Rocket Man to get him to start a war. Actually, whomever controls the Rocket Man is the one taunting the USA to get Trump to start the war. Could that be China?

And Brer Trump, he plays for time to complete the military removal of the embeded Obama/Soros players still inside the U S Government. And the Saudis under new management just tortured out of the arrested sheiks the names of the U S Government guys on the take accepting Saudi Petro-dollars over the last 24 years, which has been verified by CIA records captured using a Marine assault on Langley.

Interesting times.

Rabel said...

"Kate Steinle suspect found not guilty, acquitted of murder and manslaughter."

Fucking Hell.

320Busdriver said...

"Kate Steinle suspect found not guilty, acquitted of murder and manslaughter."


The attorneys comments following were the most outragious I've ever heard.

Michael K said...

I think they might have Zarate as a candidate for Mayor of San Francisco next year,

He has all the qualifications. Illegal alien, murderer, loves this country as he was deported five times and returned.

Good shot, too.

Michael K said...

"steve uhr said... [hush]​[hide comment]
Darrell. Why do you think Moore won't ever be suing his victims for defamation? Sit for a deposition? No thanks"

Try not to be stupid. Did Herman Cain sue anybody ? No, they disappeared as soon as he dropped out.

Hit jobs are deniable once the election is over. Public figures and all that.

james james said...

I mentioned previously that, in a roundabout way, the appearance of the Acid Kid caused 'Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds' to be played on the jukebox. It really was a roundabout way, although -- in retrospect -- it pretty much just seems A to B. But back to the song: this brought forth a discussion amongst the regulars about a particular claim of trivia: did John Lennon really not intend the song title as a reference to LSD?

The story is that his son Julian made a picture. When asked what the picture was of, he replied his schoolmate Lucy. And she was in the sky. With diamonds. John Lennon claimed he didn't notice the acronym formed by the major words. A lot of the argument at the bar can be boiled down to: of course he knew.

Lennon took LSD. Lennon was clever. Lennon liked to tweak noses. Of those he believed needed their noses tweaked. Again: of course he knew.

So I took the other argument. Because I like to do that. I pointed out that McCartney confirmed the painting story. Which led to a side argument on the merits of Paul McCartney. 'Silly Love Songs' was mentioned. John and Paul: people still feel compelled to pick one and denigrate the other. People did that with John and Yoko, too, but that pretty much went one way; not many people on the other side of the fence on that one.

I then pointed out that Ringo confirmed it: Ringo was there when Lennon's son Julian first said the name of the drawing. There are grumbles: everyone has an affection for Ringo. 'With a Little Help From My Friends' gets played on the jukebox occasionally. But it usually is the Joe Cocker version. But even then: Ringo, in spirit.

Finally, I point out that Julian confirms the story, and that they have even tracked down the girl from school, Lucy, who remembers painting with Julian. The only way to believe Lennon lied about the LSD reference is to believe all of those people are part of a conspiracy.

So: those at the bar then basically said that all of those people were part of a conspiracy. In so many words. Basically.

Because when you want the story to be true then it is true regardless of the truth; few people will be convinced otherwise. Paul is Dead Man, Miss Him Miss Him.

Conspiracy theories are great bar fodder. For instance: the JFK assassination is always good for a few hours. And that's just debating whether Oswald really was a Communist.

- james james

Big Mike said...

“Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds” was the source of the name given to the a. afarensisfossil that we know as Lucy.

gadfly said...

I have lived in about 12 different locations in eight states and Madison, with its 30 square miles surrounded by reality, is by far my favorite. But the economics of Wisconsin taxes drove me away. Indiana is almost as nice but the Madison culture, its atmosphere and its people are hard to replace.

Property tax rates in Indiana are half that of Dane County and the homestead exemption does wonders to the tax bill. Maximum state income tax rates in Indiana are also far below Wisconsin as well. Top that off with very reasonably priced housing and I am content becoming a Hoosier, for 25 years now.

narciso said...

We know for a fact, that Doug Jones put the wrong man in prison, Richard jewwll, while the real perpetrator of the Olympic bombing wee free for two more years.


https://mobile.twitter.com/TomFitton/status/936401225196687360?p=v

narciso said...

You thought the law matters:

http://www.sfexaminer.com/judge-blocks-key-witness-testifying-kate-steinle-murder-trial/

buwaya said...

The Steinle trial was a terrible thing.
On so many levels I would hate to be her parents.

Least of all, of course, is this thing. But still, there it is. This verdict, on top of their treatment by the authorities, is a tremendous personal insult. The perpetrator is a worthless character, he might as well be an infected dog, there is no point in vengeance against him. But the insults must be answered.

I am a more fiery (and less Christian) fellow than the Steinle's, and the desire for vengeance would eat at me.

narciso said...

Yes we are not seek vengeance, but properly enforce the law

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/11q/trump-picks-top-clinton-aide-for-key-ambassador-slot-why.php

Christopher said...

Tonight is a good example of why predicting politics a year out is a fool's game.

buwaya said...

But this is not the law in question, but the ongoing personal insult offered by the servants of the people, to which the family has implicitly ceded the right of vengeance.

Their constant bland, pedantic slovenliness is a blow. Blow after blow after blow.

They have created the need for yet anothet level of vengeance.

JOB said...

Persephone

Imagine time the place where shadows grow
Divine, and spread like fans that winnow noon
From dawn, and dusk from rotting bones in snow –
What marks the melting margins of the sun.

Then conjure thoughts of breadth: from apse
And nave to chthonic crypt, from heaven’s womb
To Hades’ tomb. What fires the cold synapse?
(What Aprils march to February’s doom?)

Where ice has borrowed, spring is lent away:
A princess comes to live in exile’s realms,
Her pert magnificence at close of day –
Though holding fast – reveals and overwhelms.

The nothing left is less than chaff – a creed
Of stones. What’s gone is everything that lasts:
The bittersweet and many-seeded need
To see beyond the light that darkness casts.

Ken B said...

Steinle's killer said he picked up something not knowing it was a gun. Then it went off accidentally in her direction.

So how does the verdict make sense? If you believe him, why is he guilty of a gun charge? If you don’t believe him, why isn’t he guilty of at least manslaughter? The only way it makes sense is as, yeah he did it so we'll give him a slap on the wrist to spite Trump. That's incredibly serious. Society will not long survive that kind of thing.

Michael K said...

If people want to make a case to vote for Moore to keep an abortion-lover out of the senate, fine. But don't pat yourself on the back when you leave the voting booth. Fall on your knees and beg God for mercy that you chose evil, lesser or not.

Lectured to by a lefties on the day that Kate Steinle's murderer is acquitted.

Some sort of symmetry.

Big Mike said...

@Ken B, I have read, in more than one place, that the gun went off THREE EFFING TIMES. This was no accident.

n.n said...

bitcoin mining uses more energy than 159 countries

Computational limit.

SweatBee said...

Something about the photo looked off to me. I couldn't quite put my finger on it, and then I finally realized it was the white trim. Most of my Wisconsin friends have stained trim and textured drywall--even in new builds.

buwaya said...

Podhoretz is but a shadow of his noble father, and a member in good standing of the establishment, on the other side of the conservative-populist movement.

This all is less about ideology than it is a tribal war. Ideology is a tool.

walter said...

rehajm said...
Anyone else getting 502 Errors linking here lately?
--
Yep..

buwaya said...

Kate Steinle - a local news item in San Francisco.
Just for us Californians, or maybe just us Bay Areans. Not of national importance.

Birches said...

That Steinle verdict practically guarantees a Roy Moore win.

Pinandpuller said...

Finally, I point out that Julian confirms the story, and that they have even tracked down the girl from school, Lucy, who remembers painting with Julian. The only way to believe Lennon lied about the LSD reference is to believe all of those people are part of a conspiracy.

I heard that John slipped Julian LSD and that Roy Moore used to pick Lucy up from school.

- james james

walter said...

"btw who is Kate Steinle"
Ah..says tons.

buwaya said...

Kate Steinle was shot three-four blocks from my office.
I often go to the pier she was on to take photos. Have done so for 22 years now.

She is important politically for many reasons, but the most significant is that this event was the result of a long chain of official failures, incompetence or fatuous politics by multiple government entities, any of which could have and should have prevented it.

Trump got a lot of traction from this. It was clear that the government he was attacking was truly not fit for purpose.

Char Char Binks said...

A man can work to build a career over decades, and a bitch in a snit can destroy it in one breath because VAGINA!

narciso said...

Have they mentioned the miniaturized warheads we knew about 4 years or the ukrainian made boosters that got the missile to that point.

wwww said...
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walter said...

Gearing up for his...7th..deportation.
But wwww, just a local concern, right?

Char Char Binks said...

"Steinle's killer said he picked up something not knowing it was a gun."

Not being bitterly clinging white gun zealots, Mexicans don't know what guns are.

walter said...

wwww said...
Kate Steinle - a local news item in San Francisco.
Just for us Californians, or maybe just us Bay Areans. Not of national importance.
--
WTF? Where are you?
Taking drugs?
Report back when you land...or learn English.

walter said...

(or learn the actual usefulness of capitalization" us is not US)

walter said...

(Though you still would be discounting the national importance)
If you don't live here, don't presume...

exiledonmainstreet said...

Www, wherever you are, stay there. We have enough leftist dolts already. we don't need one more. continue to inflict your dumb self on foreigners.

walter said...

"My twitter feed hasn't talked about it today."

;)

buwaya said...

walter, that was my lame sarcasm.

exiledonmainstreet said...

the Steinle verdict might just kill DACA.

I hope so. then something good will come out of a hideous miscarriage of justice.

That poor family.

walter said...

Buwaya,
You are doubling as wwww circa 11:06 PM?

buwaya said...

The Steinle case was critical to the rise of Trump in 2015.
Came two weeks after he announced his campaign.

Its interesting that the foreign MSM didn't pick it up.
Probably because the US MSM was rather quiet about it, except as a local story, util Trump tweeted on it. But it was national news in the right wing media.

One of many examples of the one-way media filter. The right hears the left, such as on the Ferguson brouhaha, but the left doesnt hear the right.

buwaya said...

wwww quoted my post of 10:11

anti-de Sitter space said...

"Expecting the entire world to know about some random murder is pretty odd."

The folks in this thread only know the facts of the case as learned from Fox News.

IOW, you and other folks not FNS-ed, are more knowledgeable re facts than the emotionally affected who are expressing their feelings in this thread.

exiledonmainstreet said...

birches, I think you're right about the Moore win.

I'm starting to think that maybe California should secede from the Union. and then we can put put up a wall to keep Californians out, once they start to flee what will become a third world nation within a few generations. it's hard to ruin a state with as much going for it as California, but the liberals have managed to do so. I nearly moved there a dozen years ago. I am now very glad I didn't. I'll take Wisconsin winters over living in a state filled with illegals and their idiot enablers.

walter said...

anti-de Shitter space,
Not yer daughter, apparently.
No matter then..
Hey..maybe..8th deportation! the charm.
F off

anti-de Sitter space said...

Walter,

Way to demonstrate that you have a handle on the facts of the case rather than just a bunch of hype you've been fed in order to manipulate you.


Sheesh. Folks are gonna think yur my sock puppet.

walter said...

Embrace the power of us..vs US.
You have really misplaced your concerns here...and you don't take the hint...explicit as it is.
Get a grip..return informed..or go away to your twitter feed.

walter said...

wwww,
Hard to say,
You are posting so ignorantly.
Twitter on!

walter said...

'Shitter,
If a multiple deportee in a "sanctary city" can't shoot into her, does a daughter die in her father's arms?

anti-de Sitter space said...

"You are posting so ignorantly."

Right, cause in a country of more than three hundred million as well as millions of illegals, and more than fifteen thousand murders, we should get all riled up re, and make policy based on less than .007% of the murders that occur.

Logic.

walter said...

wwww said...Its interesting that the foreign MSM didn't pick it up.
--
"interesting"...

walter said...

Shitter,
Only partly..but because "urban" murders are off limits to lib media.

walter said...

wwww,
re-track your own mis-posts..
Fix yer own rep here

walter said...

Good ggod, wwww,
We post in response as we see fit.
You don't have the English skills to participate here.

buwaya said...

sfgate - the SF newspaper - covered the facts of the case quite well. It was a big story here. It also builds on a string of related cases. They did not cover very well its influence on US politics, especially on the right.

wwww, you can believe in free speech, but I dont think either Adam Smith or Voltaire would have thought that believing in them was to the point. Rather, they would probably have suggested the utility of reason and empiricism.

anti-de Sitter space said...

Walter,

It's a free country. So, good for you if it feels good for you to be a flea on the tail that hopes to help wag the dog.

But, keep in mind that the underside is susceptible to splatter. Diarrhea.

walter said...

wwww,
You bared your ignorance re kate steinle, should have bowed out there.
I suspect you are European based on your continued presumption of higher ground.
Hey..link your impressive twitter feed here..

walter said...

shitter, so poetic t'night

anti-de Sitter space said...

"shitter, so poetic t'night"

Thanks fer noticing that I ran w/ yur shit theme.

walter said...

Nah...YOU are the shitter.
All hail the shitter.

anti-de Sitter space said...

"Nah...YOU are the shitter.
All hail the shitter."

Nope.

There's only one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPiRAK3qtDY

walter said...

Haha..active link it if serious..

anti-de Sitter space said...

walt,

I do know the HREF code.

But, I don't use it cause I don't wanna make y'all think that I'm rick rollin' ya to an evil site, e.g. the failing NYT.

Yes, I know that y'all can hover a hyper link to see the address. But, I believe in full, in your face transparency, so that's not good enough. IMHO.

walter said...

THAT is so sophisticated, 'shitter.
And so, so lame...

anti-de Sitter space said...

Plus,

Technically, I care exactly zero Fs if folks follow my links.

I just put them out there cause I'm not into unsupported jabber.


Carry on.

walter said...

Yeah..you put them there because you don't care.
..more like you want the patina of linked support for yer shiite.

walter said...

I

mean

carry

on..

tim in vermont said...

I just put them out there cause I'm not into unsupported jabber.

When did that start? I can recall you defending Hillary with absolute certainty without the benefit of any links and refusing to follow links to the New York Times, Wa Pa, Christian Science Monitor, Politico, etc, etc, etc,

tim in vermont said...

This murder was meaningless, but the Charlottesville murder signaled a descent into fascism.

It's sort of like the whole sexual harassment thing, It's only important if it helps Democrats.

tim in vermont said...

"Wa Pa" is my spellchecks version of WaPo.

Assrat said...

>You're becoming a parody of yourself.

Becoming?

Ann Althouse said...

"Something about the photo looked off to me. I couldn't quite put my finger on it, and then I finally realized it was the white trim. Most of my Wisconsin friends have stained trim and textured drywall--even in new builds."

It's not drywall.

The house (the front part) was built in 1923.

The back of the house (which is like a completely different house) is modern, built circa 1970 and massively renovated in the 1990s.

Bad Lieutenant said...

And the Saudis under new management just tortured out of the arrested sheiks the names of the U S Government guys on the take accepting Saudi Petro-dollars over the last 24 years,


Interesting... A long list, mostly available through open source.

which has been verified by CIA records captured using a Marine assault on Langley.

And there it is. Traditionalguy, I'm not saying don't drink the turpentine, I'm saying you have to know when to stop. Marine assault? Was this in the news? Does posse comitatus mean anything to you?

Bad Lieutenant said...


tim in vermont said...
I just put them out there cause I'm not into unsupported jabber.

When did that start? I can recall you defending Hillary with absolute certainty without the benefit of any links and refusing to follow links to the New York Times, Wa Pa, Christian Science Monitor, Politico, etc, etc, etc,
12/1/17, 5:02 AM

It's very simple Tim.
Back when he was posting as Shiloh I busted him by referring to his jabber as, well, jabber. So he sought to take the power out of that word, or to seize upon its power, by using it himself ten thousand times a day. Kind of like the queers reclaiming queer. Just more leftist claptrap agitprop Alinsky technique.