October 15, 2017

"At a fund-raiser for the president at his Westport, Conn., estate Monday night, Harvey Weinstein spoke in a softly lit room shimmering with pink dahlias, gold Oscars, silvery celebrities and black American Express cards."

Wrote Maureen Dowd in August 2012, in a column I'm reading because in my previous post, about Dowd's current column, I observed that Dowd had been writing about the movie business for a long time and wondered whether she'd ever gone after Weinstein. She quoted somebody calling Weinstein a "master" at avoiding bad press by "giving to liberal causes."

So let's see what press Dowd gave Weinstein in the heat of the 2012 presidential election. That column — which begins with the sentence I've used as the post title — continues:
“You can make the case,” Weinstein said of Barack Obama, “that he’s the Paul Newman of American presidents.”...
Paul Newman, Dowd explains, was aloof
[T]he president does not think people should expect too much in return for paying $35,800 for an hour of his time, as they did at the Weinstein affair, or in return for other favors....

“[Obama] realized that he could stir crowds while also thinking to himself that it was all a game and posturing,” [said David Maraniss, author of “Barack Obama: The Story"]. “He is always removed and participating at the same time, self-conscious and without the visceral need or love of transactional politics that would characterize Bill Clinton or L.B.J. or even W., in a way.”...

“His [will] is cool and [Bill] Clinton’s is hot, but they burn at the same temperature inside,” [Maraniss] said. “So he does some of what he finds distasteful, but not all of it, and not all of it very well.”
By the way, 60 guests paid $35,800 for the dinner at Harvey's.

There's not a whiff of negativity about Weinstein in this old column, which is about Obama's cool lack of interest in being "a glad-handing pol." The phrase "a glad-handing pol" seems to relate more to going out among the common people. At Harvey's, Obama was ensconced with the beautiful elite. I have to go to a different NYT article for this:
Among the guests were Anne Hathaway, who played Catwoman in “The Dark Knight Rises,” the new Batman film; Jerry Springer, the talk show host; Anna Wintour, editor of Vogue magazine; Joanne Woodward, the actress and widow of Paul Newman; Aaron Sorkin, creator of television shows like “The Newsroom” and “The West Wing”; and Gov. Daniel [sic] P. Malloy of Connecticut.

Mr. Obama made sure to single out Ms. Hathaway, who was wearing “a silver dress with puffed sleeves gathered from the elbow to the shoulder, and a tight bodice,” according to a pool report by Dave Boyer of The Washington Times. “She’s spectacular,” Mr. Obama said....
ADDED: Other old Weinstein mentions by Dowd:

From  November 2015: "The Women of Hollywood Speak Out/Female executives and filmmakers are ready to run studios and direct blockbuster pictures. What will it take to dismantle the pervasive sexism that keeps them from doing it?"
In her black-and-cream miniskirt and black Balenciaga hightops, [Leslye] Headland was a magnetic presence with a throaty voice and a booming laugh. She had a Nicki Minaj ring tone, ‘‘Truffle Butter,’’ and several movie tattoos: ‘‘redrum’’ from ‘‘The Shining’’ on her lower back; a line from ‘‘War Games’’ — ‘‘The only winning move is to not play’’ — on her left forearm; ‘‘How would Lubitsch do it?’’ in script on her right. Harvey Weinstein, for whom Headland worked as a receptionist and assistant, calls her ‘‘wildly talented.’’
From December 1998, "Liberties; Icon and I Will Survive":
The President's head is on the block, and the First Lady has never looked more radiant. As her husband gets dragged through the mud by bone-headed Republicans, she glows. She looks as if she's traveling with her own pink baby spotlight.

Here she is on the cover of Vogue, looking Hallmark happy and Hollywood glamorous. Here she is making the flashbulbs pop, with Harvey Weinstein and Gwyneth Paltrow at the New York premiere of Miramax's ''Shakespeare in Love.''...

Last Thursday she repaid the generosity of Mr. Weinstein, the co-chairman of Miramax who is a big contributor to Clinton campaigns and the Clinton legal defense fund. As Alex Kuczynski reported in The Times, the First Lady went to Mr. Weinstein's premiere and spoke in praise of ''my friend Harvey.'' Sounding very Tina Brownish, Mrs. Clinton raved about ''the buzz'' around Miramax, and said the company ''has done a great service.''...

125 comments:

Darrell said...

She is attempting to smear Trump by associating him with Harvey Shitstain in that headline. She makes it sound like last week.

Ann Althouse said...

@Darrell

"the president" = Obama

Darrell said...

Yes, I know. But many people just read headlines and they think "Trump." That is a dirty trick of the dirty Left.

Fernandinande said...

Try google-image search on "actress".

Just as "American scientists" are mostly black, "actress[es]" are almost all from Bollywood.

Thanks google, I didn't know those things!

Darrell said...

Now that Weinstein's name is shit, let's link it to Trump every chance we get.

Bob Boyd said...

@ Darrell

The headline's from 2012. Dowd was busy smearing "Moneybags Romney" then.

Fernandinande said...

I'm selling this idea for a game show, so don't anyone steal it.

"Two Minute Hate with Emmanuel Weinstein."

Ann Althouse said...

"Yes, I know. But many people just read headlines and they think "Trump." That is a dirty trick of the dirty Left."

The only one who could be performing that dirty trick is me, since I'm dragging it up from 2012 and I'm making what wasn't a headline into a headline.

For the record, I wasn't even thinking about Trump.

Bob said...

You probably could make a good living or at least produce copious pages of data in analyzing the bullshit spread by libs and progs as they rationalize every negative event. You would find what we already knew. Massive corruption, collusion, dishonesty and buggery. These are not good people. I only hope the repubs can do better. The rot in our congress suggests no.

robinintn said...

How can the NYT have misspelled the Connecticut governor's name? The odd way he spells 'Daniel' is famous. It's one state away. Google exists. It was before they had to lay off all the copy editors.

gg6 said...

Ah, yes, "Mr. Obama", another Hollywood stargazer and an extremely horny but self-repressed peacock if ever there was one...undoubtedly, his daydreams are overwhelmingly X-Rated.

tcrosse said...

OT, but there was a Madison humor magazine called The Octopus from 1919 to 1960. It was a precursor to that later Madison humor mag, The Onion.
The Octopus

tcrosse said...

For the record, I wasn't even thinking about Trump.

Many try not to think about Trump. Few can do it.

Dave Begley said...

Maureen, Barack and Harvey all deserve each other.

Darrell said...

I denounce myself.

rehajm said...

Why didn't you go after Weinstein? Were you and your colleagues bought off by his generosity to causes that you like?

Adequately explained by stupidity rather than malice if you characterize Dowd as a gossipy barfly rather than as an investigative journalist, and how tough is that?

Gusty Winds said...

Harvey should take the position that, “I was just trying to find someone who loved me for me, and wasn’t looking for a favor or money. Every time I think someone likes me they start fucking Matt Damon. It’s not easy being fat, rich, and Jewish.”

The piling on and the group self righteousness is making me sick. The pretend surprise is worse. Give us all a break please.

I hope he gets pissed and sings like a bird. What actresses threw themselves at him to get ahead? What actors and Democrats participated in his game? That’s the interesting list. I’ll bet there’s a lot of nervous Democrat donors in Hollywood right now.

alan markus said...

In a past post about Weinstein, I wondered how many of those donors were coerced into attending those dinners and giving money to the campaigns, due to his bombastic style. I likened it to the subtle way that employers lean on their employees during the United Way campaigns. In this case, there would have been nothing subtle about his approach.

Makes one wonder if any political contribution laws have been violated.

Oso Negro said...

I wonder if Harvey Weinstein hit on Malia Obama? If not, should it be considered racism?

Bay Area Guy said...

Harvey (money + power over Hollywood careers = lotsa sex with actresses)

Democrats (Harvey + &$$ = elections in CA & NY)

Hollywood is a shithole. It makes crappy movies that, with few exceptions, promote bad Leftist ideas.

And it's a cash cow for Leftwing Democrat politicians to enact bad ideas into law.

Let the great unraveling continue!

ps Some of the exceptions are Steven Spielberg, Tom Hanks and the movie, The Lives of Others, directed by Donnersmarch in 2006.



Gusty Winds said...

Is there a difference between Harvey Weinstein and JFK? There is. JFK had money, power, and good looks, so Marilyn, Angie and the other actresses were flattered at his advances even though he was married. Harvey is fat and ugly.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

But Trump! But Trump!

According to the collective left, but Trump!

This just in - Rose McGowan says Trump raped her.

Oh wait - No - it was Harvey Weistien(D).

Shhh - but Trump!

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...
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Bill, Republic of Texas said...

Try google-image search on "actress".

My results are overwhelmingly white.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Jimmy Kimmel and the Oscars are all RAPE CULTURE.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

These vile false golden idols worship each other at the alter of money whore and back slapping. It's all part of the corruptocrat insider deal.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

That golden statue they hand out - it's a symbol of violence.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

I wonder if Harvey Weinstein hit on Malia Obama? If not, should it be considered racism?

Why has no one asked Obama how he could allow his daughter to go work for a sexual predator.

Of course they knew. They knew all along. If if somehow they didn't know before, they sure knew after the Secret Service did their threat analysis of Malia's workplace.

William said...

I lack subtlety and understanding in these matters. Can someone please explain to me the difference between the promiscuity of Hugh Heffner and that of Warren Beatty and Mick Jagger. I understand why it's wrong when Harvey Weinstein does it. He's fat and ugly, but Hugh Heffner was thin.

Quaestor said...

For the record, I wasn't even thinking about Trump.

For the record, Quaestor was thinking what a vast and powerful force the French Resistance must have been given the national consensus of France in 1946 — 40 million Gauls, armed and ready to fight, willing and able to contest every field and stand of trees. Part of the mighty French army had to serve in England to keep that tottering kingdom from falling into Hitler's basket like a ripe plum, but on 6 June 1944, they returned to la belle France flushed with victory over the British collaborators to finally wipe Europe clean of the Nazi scourge. The insanity of Herr Hitler is amply demonstrated by his eagerness to declare war on France.

William said...

Weinstein apparently got an extra thrill out of hitting on the daughters of the rich and powerful. See Paltrow, Scorvino, and Jolie. I would not be dumbfounded to discover he had made a move on Malia simply because she was the President's daughter. It's not outside the realm of possibility. Chelsea could probably be safely left alone with him, but Hillary might yet claim that it happened if it wins her a few more supporters and dionors in Hollywood.

Quaestor said...

I lack subtlety and understanding in these matters.

He's fat and ugly and Jewish and inconveniently on friendly terms with too many important and progressive people.

Quaestor said...

Correction: was on friendly terms...

Fernandinande said...

Bill, Republic of Texas said...
"Try google-image search on "actress".
My results are overwhelmingly white.


Really? I get at least a full page of saris, black hair and forehead dots before the first woman who looks European, and several more pages before the first black or (non-Indian) Asian actress.

This isn't the "Top stories" row of pictures, which is 100% blonde.

Oso Negro said...


Blogger William said...
I lack subtlety and understanding in these matters. Can someone please explain to me the difference between the promiscuity of Hugh Hefner and that of Warren Beatty and Mick Jagger. I understand why it's wrong when Harvey Weinstein does it. He's fat and ugly, but Hugh Hefner was thin.


William....please. If you were a woman setting foot in the Playboy mansion, you knew your panties were coming off and there was sex going on, and I don't recall any accusations of rape. I don't recall that super-handsome Warren Beatty was accused of rape either, and Mick Jagger marries his girlfriends. See the difference?

Quaestor said...

Chelsea could probably be safely left alone with him, but Hillary might yet claim that it happened if it wins her a few more supporters and donors in Hollywood.

Someone should start one of those "countdown" pages — Time Remaining Until Chelsea Revealed as HW Victim. Unfortunately, some people will doubt even Weinstein could rape an entire borough of London.

robother said...

God, the prose that flows on the editorial pages of the NYTimes: purple don't begin to signify. Dowd's either clutching pearls in horror at some louche Republican remark or clutching sheets in ecstasy at some barely concealed fantasy involving Obama and a loofa. Meanwhile, at the next desk, Paul Krugman is firing up his computer every morning in "a state of existential dread."

Amadeus 48 said...

Good times, good times.

Joseph Severs said...

Comforting the comfortable and afflicting the afflicted.

Static Ping said...

As a service to this blog, I read the Maureen Dowd article. This quickly reminded me why I do not read Maureen Dowd. She does have some insight, but she does use the English language in ways it was never meant to be used. Once "rococo" showed up, I rolled my eyes.

She does have a point that Barack Obama seems to think of other people as a problem to be solved more than anything else. I would add that this is not a task he is well-suited. His answer is socialism, which is the default answer for smart people who do not want to be bothered.

As for Harvey, I don't think Obama really cared then and, for that matter, really cares now. He was using Harvey and Harvey was using him. The tool was a tool, so to speak.

David Begley said...

Why doesn't Hillary just marry Harvey? Make it a legal bigamy test case.

Kate said...

Have we heard yet from the "wildly talented" Ms. Headland and how Harvey treated her? Above-the-line actress stories come first; women in crew have to wait until the credits roll. And by then most people are walking out of the theater.

Headland could be the most self-empowered, ball-busting woman in Hollywood, and I can only assume she was a victim. Another HW legacy: doubt the success of any woman he praised.

Static Ping said...

When I lookup "actress" in Google, the images are almost all Bollywood and, for some reason, a white due by the name of Doug Jones.

If I lookup "famous actress" it is all white women. Angelina Jolie is the first on the list.

Quaestor said...

There must be an abundance of dark alleys and abandoned buildings in Hollywood, else how could the predations of Harvey Weinstein have gone on so long? Think of it — at least 50% of the upper echelons of American society are female, and every one of them a committed feminist ever vigilant against the humiliation and exploitation of women. How did he get away with it? Quaestor has a few theories:

1) America's foremost feminists were so totally preoccupied with the depredations against women by Islam, becoming too involved fighting to prevent a misogynistic plague of Muslims trying to invade Europe and North America to give a comparative piker like Harvey Weinstein sufficient attention. He was able to "fly beneath the radar," so to speak.

2) He wore a mask. An alleged eyewitness, Rob Reiner, said the rapist looked just like Donald Trump.

Darrell said...

Gwyneth was known for her head. Take the movie Seven, for example.

Sally327 said...

Too bad we can't find out more about Obama seeking out the actress Ann Hathaway who he found so "spectacular", according to that other NYT article. Because that doesn't seem cool and aloof.

tcrosse said...

Gwyneth was known for her head. Take the movie Seven, for

Likewise Chloë Sevigny in The Brown Bunny.

MayBee said...

Will all the people who didn't report Harvey lose their jobs like Billy Bush did?

Darrell said...

Likewise Chloë Sevigny in The Brown Bunny.

One is not like the other. Although they both had happy endings--for most people.

MayBee said...

I mean, NBC fired Billy Bush for not saying something to Trump, and also shut down Ronan Farrow for trying to report about Harvey.

So figure that out.

Sebastian said...

"Why has no one asked Obama how he could allow his daughter to go work for a sexual predator." The predator was a major Dem donor, so all good. Sexual harassment was and is a tool to be used agains the other side. Now it is a tool of left-on-left civil war. Sure, they are trying to rope in Trump et al., but so far it isn't working. Confusing. How will the left get its culture-war mojo back?

Anyway, O figured Malia was safe: SS probably told him HW only hit on whites, and he knew HW knew he was the bigger thug and would sic Holder or Lynch on him if anything happened.

Michael K said...

"For the record, I wasn't even thinking about Trump."

Russ Douthat was though.

The coarse worldview I’ve called “Hefnerism” endured, as the victims of Weinstein and Bill Clinton and Donald Trump can well attest.

Asshole.

Sebastian said...

"doubt the success of any woman he praised" The inevitable result of any affirmative action policy, whether at Miramax/Weinstein & Co. or US colleges.

rhhardin said...

"doubt the success of any woman he praised"

They're all good enough actresses. You don't have to doubt their success.

rhhardin said...

Why Anne Hathaway won for bad singing and bad acting in les m. is a mystery though. Maybe that was Weinstein.

It's a music critic's complaint, though. The films without music wouldn't have that disadvantage.

Enlighten-NewJersey said...

Fernandinande, my google searches produced the same results as yours - pictures of mostly black scientists and Indian women. Perhaps the results are dependent upon user location?

rhhardin said...

Singing gets you into a realm where there are different critics from film critics. A genre switch.

A trained voice does better than an actress no matter how good the actress at acting.

gilbar said...

So, was dowd saying that people like obmama don't like "to participate in group activities, and show little regard for the emotions of their peers. "

Seeing Red said...

First I read the psychopath aloof article

Then I read this one about how Obama acts.

rhhardin said...

Twice I remember asking my mother, `Why are operas always sad?' She tried no answer, but she was someone to whom I could direct such a perplexity. I would come to give myself various answers to the question - based on questions having to do, for example, with what occasions people to sing, and what plots best allow for such occasions, questions which I would later come to feel assumed the question, not answered it. I do not know that it is the most searching question one might ask of opera, but the most interesting directions for an answer I have been given to it come from another woman, Catherine Clément in her book _Opera, or the Undoing of Women_, published in 1979, translated into English some ten years later, when I came across it. Her answer is, in effect, that opera is about the death of women, and about the singing of women, and can be seen to be about the fact that women die because they sing.

Stanley Cavell A Pitch of Philosophy, p.132

different from acting.

Sebastian said...

"opera is about the death of women, and about the singing of women, and can be seen to be about the fact that women die because they sing." I guess anybody can come up with any crazy hypothesis to please a Haahvad Professor of Philosophy, but this is crazy. Figaro and The Magic Flute aren't "about" the death of women and Isolde doesn't die "because" she sings.

The Count and the Don do shed light on the HW fiasco.

tcrosse said...

The Count and the Don do shed light on the HW fiasco.

Also the Duke of Mantua.

Quaestor said...

Catherine Clément evidently didn't go to the opera much. Too busy watching Honey Boo-Boo, probably.

madAsHell said...

Why Anne Hathaway won for bad singing and bad acting in les m. is a mystery though.

No kidding!! It was a big relief when her character died.

Bay Area Guy said...

Enabler Alert!

Per Heather Graham, in trying to stave off Harvey's advances:

"In the wake of the New York Times and New Yorker articles, Heather Graham joined the women sharing stories of Weinstein's alleged misconduct. In an essay published by Variety, the actress claims that in the early 2000s Weinstein met with her, offered to give her a role, and informed her that his wife allowed him to "sleep with whomever he wanted when he was out of town."

Georgina "allowed" fat, wannabe, alpha male Harvey, to sleep around, huh?

A permanent hall pass.

A slap in the face to the all the sistahs who take pride in the acting profession and tried to ply their craft without submitting to the casting couch.

Tsk, tsk, Georgina - shoulda kept a leash on your husband. Ya mighta prevented a few gropes, and a few rapes.



Quaestor said...

I just noticed that Althouse's Maureen Dowd tag is maureen dowd, all lower case.

If that isn't deliberate, it ought to be.

cronus titan said...

"Why has no one asked Obama how he could allow his daughter to go work for a sexual predator."

Weinstein was a predator, and evaluated his prey to determine who could, and could not, damage him. Sexual predators adapt, and Weinstein did when he pulled his stunts on Paltrow, who could be protected by Brad Pitt and Steven Spielberg. THere was a price to be paid. Weinstein learned to avoid that. Preferably, they would be aspiring actresses. Better if they had a personal problem since he could exploit that if they ever said anything. The Penn State scandal involving Sandusky is instructive -- he abused boys with a problem he could point to so that he could say credibly they should not be believed. This works until the victims start learning about each other (which usually takes years, maybe decades) and (2) those who are in a position to hold him accountable refuse to do so as long as the money and fame keep rolling along.

Obama knew Weinstein would never, ever abuse his daughter, even if he abused every woman around her.

cronus titan said...

Dowd's skill is to name call and name drop in the same column. She is good at it but that's about it. She did the same thing here but dared not name call Weinstein while he was still sitting powerfully on top of entertainment and Democratic Party circles.

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Quaestor said...

And Dowd hasn't updated her official NYT portrait in about twenty years.

Unknown said...

At least those on the Left ostracize their sexual predators, those on the right elect them President.

cubanbob said...

Hollywood thrives on corruption and the Democrats are thoroughly corrupt.


" Unknown said...
At least those on the Left ostracize their sexual predators, those on the right elect them President."

Bill Clinton. President. Ted Kennedy, ran for president. Just to name a couple of Democrats.
Your level of stupidity isn't natural. What brand of WMD Stupid Pills do you take with your breakfast?

tcrosse said...

The right didn't elect JFK and LBJ.

Unknown said...
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Unknown said...

15 women accused Trump of sexually molesting them, he bragged about grabbing women by the pussy, without even asking. You elected him president. Now you act horrified at Weinstein, yet Trump’s sexual predation endears him to you. Hypocrites. You people are not normal.

William said...

Theodora became the Empress of Byzantium largely due to her casting couch skills. The casting couch doesn't always work out to the disadvantage of the actress involved. I suppose that's why it has existed since antiquity......It seems that the problems assciated with the casting couch could easily be eliminated if there were a will to eliminate them, but that will simply does not exist.

Drago said...

Unknown: "At least those on the Left ostracize their sexual predators, those on the right elect them President."

Actually, they give them standing ovation in front of global audiences during award shows.

But then again, as a lefty history begins anew each day for you so you probably forgot that.

William said...

I think people like Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, and even the Obamas can call out Trump on his luxe behavior. That privilege does not extend to anyone in Hollywood and certainly not to any member of the Clinton family.

Unknown said...

Trump Given A Subpoena For All Documents Relating To Assault Allegations
A woman who said Donald Trump groped her has subpoenaed his campaign for documents about “any woman alleging that Donald J. Trump touched her inappropriately.” Trump has denied her accusations and is fighting the subpoena.

Drago said...

I see the Lefty talking points have gone out.

Hilarious.

Every day brings a new wave of lefty tine-deafness.

It is encouraging indeed that the left is that clueless.

walter said...

" She looks as if she's traveling with her own pink baby spotlight."
A pussy halo..

Bad Lieutenant said...

Obama knew Weinstein would never, ever abuse his daughter, even if he abused every woman around her.
10/15/17, 11:07 AM

So that's a sufficient reason to put his daughter in a shark tank, because she has shark repellent? Doesn't always work!

Plus which, even if Malia was to be the piano player in the whorehouse, what happens when the brothel gets busted? Is it a high point of the pianist's resume? How would you let your daughter within a mile of that? Won't some day someone ask Malia what did she know and when did she know it? Or O? WTF was he or Michelle thinking? Some great parents.

MayBee said...

His daughters *were* in a shark tank. They were in Washington.

Remember, Ted Kennedy was one of Obama's earliest boosters.

JSF said...

The feminists and the Democrats did not believe President Bill Clinton's accusers...i.e. the "Nuts and Slts" strategy provided by the DNC. They defended the accused (President Bill Clinton) vs his accusers (Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones, etc. et. al)

And let's not forget the "One free grope," defense provided by Gloria Steinem as a way of protecting President Bill Clinton.

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/01/29/opinion/in-america-the-feminist-dilemma.html

How long ago did Rep. Weiner sext an underage girl? Isn't his Rep. Weiner's wife Hillary Clinton's chief of staff?

Mary Jo Kopachne still has no comment.

Until the Democrats start reforming themselves, they have no standing on this issue.

Static Ping said...

Unknown, I was given a choice between Trump, who it would not surprise me if he had taken some unwanted sexual liberties with women and, furthermore, has lots of other confirmed undesirable traits, and, and Clinton, who was the prime enabler of her husband Bill, who most likely is a rapist and definitely a sexual predator, and also has a long list of undesirable traits including a seeming inability to imitate a human being. Also, a pot head pretending to be a libertarian, a communist pretending to care about the environment, and an Egg McMuffin(tm). There is a reason why there were bumper stickers endorsing SMOD. I went with the least undesirable choice.

I will admit it is refreshing to discover that it is possible for a leftist to be brought up on moral charges for once. I thought they were all immune after they gave their blessing to Bill Clinton. Apparently raping left-wing celebrities is required, but it is progress.

MayBee said...

It really reminds me of how the charismatic preachers who preach against homosexuals so often have gay trysts.

The people who are the loudest about things are making up for their own flaws.

tcrosse said...

You people are not normal.

Deplorable is the word you're looking for. See how that works out for you.

William said...

Hollywood and its cousins in the media still haven't been able to find the handle on Harvey Weinstein. I think they're trying to portray him as some kind of grotesque anomaly who does not represent the true values of Hollywood. Horseshit. Harvey might be a little fatter and a little pervier than the average player, but there's no reason to believe that he's some kind of outlier. Hollywood exploited Harvey just as much as Harvey exploited Hollywood. This is true of some of the actresses who are now sounding the tocsin against him.......You can use Harvey as a club to beat up on Trump, but I think that argument is more subversive of the entertainment industry than it is of Trump. When Trump was comfortably ensconced as the host of an NBC show, none of these rumors surfaced. NBC buried them deeper than the Farrow story......I just don't see how Hollywood and, for that matter, Maureen Dowd can say or do anything that will mitigate or exculpate their complicity in the Harvey Weinstein affair,

LYNNDH said...

This far down on the comments but I just read the post on psychopaths. Seems to me that BO fits the profile very well.

Ralph L said...

I just noticed that Althouse's Maureen Dowd tag is maureen dowd, all lower case.
If that isn't deliberate, it ought to be.

Saw it too. Althouse must have anticipated the "lameness of the journalists" in the previous post.
Unlike the HW story, they're not lame, they're legless.

It isn't the crime, it's the coverup.

If HW looked like Affleck, no one would believe these women.

Night Owl said...

"I see the Lefty talking points have gone out."

I can't help but wonder if leftists use Althouse's comment sections to test their talking points, to see which ones will work and which get mocked mercilessly.

They aren't doing so well lately. Attempts at shaming are downright laughable when they come from the shameless.

tcrosse said...

Syllogism:
I hate sexual predators.
I hate Trump
Ergo: Trump is a sexual predator.
QED.

Corollary:
I hate sexual predators.
I love Democrats.
Ergo: No Democrat is a sexual predator.
QED

pacwest said...

And yes, I know this is a waste of time. My apologies to the rest of the commentariat.

"15 women accused Trump of sexually molesting them,"

"Accused".. Several of those stated explicitly that the 'sexual molestation' consisted of Trump glancing at them in a manner they didn't like, or simply brushing against them in passing. 0% of them had any proof of sexual molestation other than bought and paid for innuendo.

"he bragged about grabbing women by the pussy, without even asking."

At no time did he ever state that he had done any grabbing as you state. Outright lie on your part. Pathetic. Do you ever wonder why your comments are considered stupid? If you tell yourself a lie often enough do you actually believe it? Do you just believe in the lies of your betters and are incapable of independent thought?

"You elected him president."

Yep. As is continually pointed out to you Hillary is not President. As time passes it becomes increasingly clear how lucky we are that is not the case.

"Now you act horrified at Weinstein,"

Personally not so much. It is what I have come to expect from the leftist worldview where personal reflection and moral responsibility are discouraged.

"yet Trump’s sexual predation"

Excuse me. What are you referring to? Please bring facts into evidence.

"endears him to you."

If there is any endearment here it has to do things other than "sexual predation". Does internet anonymity give you the courage to put forth stupidity like this or is this something you find acceptable within the narrow confines of your non-diverse social group?

" Hypocrites."

Look in the mirror.

"You people are not normal."

Look in the mirror. Think for yourself. If you have problems with President Trump please let us know what they are in a truthful and thoughtful manner instead of spouting this crap. I really want to think that half of the electorate is not insane, but are not doing anything to dispel the notion.

My kingdom for an honest lefty.


Bad Lieutenant said...

I can't help but wonder if leftists use Althouse's comment sections to test their talking points, to see which ones will work and which get mocked mercilessly.

They aren't doing so well lately. Attempts at shaming are downright laughable when they come from the shameless.

...

I have scarcely begun to make you understand that I don't intend to play the game. -- Guy Debord

Night Owl said...

It's been apparent from day one that the left would use this story to go after Trump. The problem for them is that this line of attack will only have resonance with the hypocrites on the left who already hate Trump. The hypocrites on the right won't give a damn; tit for tat and all that.* Those who don't follow politics will go on not following politics.

But the left needs to ask itself, are they ready for what Trump will tweet about the Clintons and the hypocrites in Hollywood and the media if they go down this path? He was part of their scene; I bet he knows a secret or two.
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*Lena Dunham admitted to being a hypocrite, saying she shook Harvey's hand knowing what he was because it helped her preferred presidential candidate, Hillary "perv enabler" Clinton. It's doubtful Dunham is the only hypocrite on the left who covered for Weinstein and Bill Clinton in order to help Hillary. Kudos to Lena for being honest.

bgates said...

My kingdom for an honest lefty.

I'm still dumbfounded at learning how often columnists at the New York Times wrote about one Democratic President or another enjoying the company of some guy who I was told nobody had ever heard of before last week.

Quaestor said...

Abby Someone wrote: At least those on the Left ostracize their sexual predators...

Except when it's politically convenient to spike the story.

Your despair is delicious, Inga. Keep it coming.

Night Owl said...

"My kingdom for an honest lefty."

Lena Dunham

James K said...

"My kingdom for an honest lefty."

Lena Dunham


Admitting to being a hypocrite only gets you halfway there. She would do it again if she thought it would help elect her preferred candidate.

Jonathan Turley and Alan Dershowitz would be better examples.

narciso said...

So dowdy was wrong then, how can we believe her nice?

Original Mike said...

Blogger Fernandinande said..."Try google-image search on "actress".
Just as "American scientists" are mostly black, "actress[es]" are almost all from Bollywood."


Oh, that's interesting. Especially the scientist results. (I don't understand what they're trying to do with actress.)

rehajm said...

At least those on the Left ostracize their sexual predators...

...but they try to elect their sexual predator enablers.

Original Mike said...

"At least those on the Left ostracize their sexual predators..."

Seriously?

William said...

Florence Nightingale, when she first went to the Crimea, built her first hospital upon a cesspool. Seepage leaked into the plumbing. She brought aid and comfort to her patients, but it has to be noted that half of them died of cholera. They died of this disease because the hospital was built upon a cesspool. They died because of her. Fortunately, none of this ever served to diminish her reputation as "the angel with a lamp."......I think it's long past time we make a movie of this extraordinary woman's life. It's a role made for Meryl Streep. I like the metaphoral aspects of it. Keep it muted but make it an allegory for Hillary Clinton.

tcrosse said...

"At least those on the Left ostracize their sexual predators..."

If forced to

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

Slow news day?

rhhardin said...

Imus was long describing a trip with the crew on a private jet, and Imus is dozing off, and hears Bernard McGuirk's son say, "Dad, Rob touched me inappropriately."

Original Mike said...

"Abby Someone wrote: At least those on the Left ostracize their sexual predators..."

And asked about allegations of sexual misconduct levelled at her husband and former president, Bill Clinton, she said: 'That has all been litigated. "That was subject of a huge investigation in the late 90s and there were conclusions drawn. That was clearly in the past."

exiledonmainstreet said...

The Toothless Revolutionary said...
Slow news day?

10/15/17, 2:29 PM

Well, the Austrians just elected a 31 year old to head their government - but I'm afraid he's not one of your progressive millennials, so it is more bad news for the Left. They might prefer to keep talking about Weinstein:

"Some analysts warn that Kurz's election will be an "earthquake" for the EU, despite his pro-European pledge.

"He's a 'Haider light' version," said Paris-based Austria expert Patrick Moreau.

Kurz's ideas on everything from immigration to economic policy represent a "complete rupture" with the EU, Moreau added."

Of course, he's an anti-immigration conservative, so he is exactly like Hitler except for Trump who is even more exactly like Hitler!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/austrias-kurz-europes-youngest-leader-waiting-180917117.html

tcrosse said...

The interesting thing about Kurz is that he seems to want to reassemble the old Habsburg Empire.

William Chadwick said...

Pretty much Weinsteined out (at this point the Harvey story is like a litmus test that tells me more about the commenter than the actual story); but there's an interesting take on the story by the always-interesting Andrew Klavan, "Hollywood's Masculinity Deficit," on PJ Media (or you can find the link on the Instapundit blog). The final paragraph is:

"Being a man — a real man — is hard. Being a gentleman is hard. Men won't do it if they don't have real women — real ladies — to do it for. And wherever ladies stop being ladies and men stop being men, it isn't Equality World, believe me. It's Harvey Weinstein all the way down."

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Darrell said...

Cola
By Lana Del Ray

My pussy tastes like Pepsi Cola
My eyes are wide like cherry pies
I got sweet taste for men who're older
It's always been so it's no surprise
Harvey's in the sky with diamonds
And it's making me crazy
All he wants to do is party with his pretty baby
Come on baby, let's ride
We can escape to the great sunshine
I know your wife and she wouldn't mind
We made it out to the other side
We made it out to the other side
We made it out to the other side
Come on come on come on come on come on baby
Whoa ah yeah
I fall asleep with an American flag
I wear my diamonds on skid row
I pledge allegiance to my dad
For teaching me everything he knows
Harvey's in the sky with diamonds
And it's making me crazy
All he wants to do is party with his pretty baby, yeah
Come on…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml0ySvrVd6o

Darrell said...

BTW--Lana Del Ray has been pictured with Harvey Weinstein on multiple occasions and he is telling her that the camera loves her face in a video. She's now saying that the line is "Ah-he's," not "Harvey's but that doesn't make any sense. Google lyrics has "Harvey's."

David said...

For some reason all of this makes me think of Cleopatra.

richard mcenroe said...

"Abby Someone wrote: At least those on the Left ostracize their sexual predators..."

How much does Bill make per speech these days?

rhhardin said...

"Being a man — a real man — is hard. Being a gentleman is hard. Men won't do it if they don't have real women — real ladies — to do it for. And wherever ladies stop being ladies and men stop being men, it isn't Equality World, believe me. It's Harvey Weinstein all the way down."

Withdrawing from dealing with women is the usual option. That way you can still be a gentleman.

Matthew Sablan said...

It is impressive how much was not found by not looking.

Bad Lieutenant said...

Withdrawing from dealing with women is the usual option. That way you can still be a gentleman.

Usual? You don't use words very well.

William said...

I woke up this morning to find out that there are no new allegations against Harvey Weinstein. This story is now stale. Time to move on,

narayanan said...

Maybe Malia was interning there to learn the technique of "not seeing" what can be "shocking" - politics 101?

furious_a said...

there are no new allegations against Harvey Weinstein

Not,"new",just "more to come".

furious_a said...

At least those on the Left ostracize their sexual predators..."

...apparently not when they're vehicular manslaughterers, as well. Ted Kennedy is still their "Lion of the Senate".

furious_a said...

At least those on the Left ostracize their sexual predators..."

...with standing O's, apparently, whenever someone mentions Roman Polanski's name to a Hollywood awards ceremony audience.

walter said...

"My pussy tastes like Pepsi Cola"
Does she have clearance to invoke the brand? I'm thinking about The Kinks changing the cola reference in Lola.
I think Pepsi is struggling a bit with their cola sales since the advent of so many competing beverages. Maybe they can create a feminine hygiene product now...