July 12, 2017

"Sir Ivan said he never heard Goldstone say anything political, but 'it would surprise me if he was a strong Trump advocate."

"He reiterated that, 'I think he strictly did it for social purposes, and to do somebody a favor.' Goldstone ― who once posted a photo of himself wearing a gold hat emblazoned with the word 'CUNTY,' which he promised is 'very me' ― did seem to celebrate Trump’s victory in November. He posted hourly updates on state-by-state results to Facebook throughout the evening of Election Day, then posted a link to a 2013 music video in which Trump appeared with Emin Agalarov.... Shortly after Trump’s win, Goldstone ― who once said graffiti declaring 'pussy not war' represents 'My sentiments entirely !!!' ― posted a photo of himself in a 'Russia' T-shirt with the caption, 'hedging bets'...."

From "The Guy Who Set Up The Trump Jr.-Russia Meeting Is The Best New Character In ‘2017’/In April, Rob Goldstone declared himself 'in a serious relationship with Bread'" in HuffPo.

53 comments:

Gk1 said...

Scott Adams is right, they really did get this guy from central casting to play the slimey, british, publicist. And everyone is taking his account at 100% face value. Riiiight.

robother said...

Yeah, a guy like this would certainly be on first name basis with the Crown Prosecutor of All the Russias. Probably any number of Nigerian Crown Princes too. Always trust content from Rob Goldstone.

sunsong said...


“…Perhaps Trump Jr. wasn’t conversant on the Magnitsky controversy at the time, but Paul Manafort should have been. He had been working the Russian lobbying circuit for long enough to know where the money was flowing, and Russia was very vocal about the issue. She should have been seen as an agent of a foreign power and of Vladimir Putin in particular.
“More than that, though, she should have been seen as an attorney for murderous Russian mobsters with high-level connections to the Russian Ministry of the Interior. Simple prudence should have prevented them from getting entangled with such a person, and not just for political reasons. The potential for blackmail or violence were too high to be acceptable to a rational person.

“To put a kind of broader perspective on this, try to imagine a United States president who would be unconcerned about a $230 million tax fraud and who would shrug when members of the FBI beat a whistleblower to death in prison. Then imagine that this president would have the deceased posthumously (and wrongfully) convicted in court. Then this president would hire a lawyer for the criminals and make her his point person for lobbying against the resulting sanctions. And, finally, that he would send this mob lawyer to Trump Tower where she would be accepted with eager and open arms.

“These are the real facts in this case. It’s not that they met with some ordinary Russian or some ordinary lawyer.
“So, let’s please stay focused on why this matters.”

Martin Longman is the web editor for the Washington Monthly and the main blogger at Booman Tribune


Sample Commenter said...

He should have known what we were going to accuse him of.

JohnAnnArbor said...

You meet some weird characters in politics.

Nonapod said...

Goldstone’s involvement with the Russia incident was probably “very benign and innocent,” Sir Ivan speculated. “It was probably strictly do somebody a favor, because he’s a nice guy. ... I’m sure he was doing nothing more than networking, I doubt there was an ounce of political intrigue involved that he would have been aware of. If anything, maybe he thought he might get a plum account as the publicist for the Miss World pageant or something.”

Seems like a overly eager dimwit with some deep insecurities... in short the perfect dupe.

Paddy O said...

"To put a kind of broader perspective on this, try to imagine a United States president..."

Imagine? We already had Clinton, and they were wanting a second Clinton elected. Of course, Clinton didn't just look the other way. He actively pardoned tax frauds who had already been convicted. If it didn't matter for the Clintons, why does lesser more vague charges matter for Trump?

The answer is, of course, it doesn't matter to anyone, it's just a way to avoid having real debates on substantive issues and having to convince people of policy positions. It's tabloid politics. Shame!

EDH said...

Sunsong quotes:

Simple prudence should have prevented them from getting entangled with such a person, and not just for political reasons. The potential for blackmail or violence were too high to be acceptable to a rational person.

And yet so far I have not seen anyone posit that the motive for any putative Russian opposition to Hillary's election was the "stick" of a "carrot and stick" blackmail scheme involving US uranium, Russian donations to the Clinton Foundations and speaking fees.

Makes a hell of a lot more sense than Russians being FOR the election of Trump and his policies.

n.n said...

Was or wasn't?

everyone is taking his [Goldstone] account at 100% face value

It's a he said, she said, He said story. He wins.

Still, no crime. No betrayal of Americans, allies, and friends, methods, knowledge, or people. Nothing uniquely untoward. As it turns out, fifty shades shy of Democratic and journolistic standards of politicking. Trump Jr wins, with a unique display of transparency.

Earnest Prole said...

If someone wrote a novel with this cast of characters everyone would say it's way too implausible.

Amadeus 48 said...

The dogs bark and the caravan moves on. Trumpworld wears its showbiz vestments lightly, but the great and the good are having spasms. Peggy Noonan, call your office. There is an outbreak of genuine populism at the White House!

n.n said...

Freedom of Speech vs Freedom of Press.

Trump Jr wins, with a unique display of transparency... another baby trial that exposed witches (and warlocks) in the Fourth Estate.

Mythical journolistic standards of integrity hurt most.

Titus said...

a fat ugly queen-sad.

Sample Commenter said...

Marc Rich. That was a pretty large 'tax heist' and Eric Holder wrote it up and Bill Clinton signed it.

been bought, as Denise Rich had given more than $1 million[25] to Clinton's political party (the Democratic Party), including more than $100,000 to the Senate campaign of the president's wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and $450,000 to the Clinton Library foundation during Clinton's time in office.[21] - Wikipedia

Different because reasons.

AllenS said...

From the article --

Rob Goldstone, a British publicist and globetrotting eager beaver

Maybe in Britain, CUNTY means beta male.

Random Onlooker said...

I love the fact that the entire "Russia collusion" narrative hangs on this Goldstone fellow's say-so. We're supposed to believe he had the inside scoop on Kremlin policy...despite the fact that he somehow thinks Russia's a monarchy. Seems legit.

Sample Commenter said...

1983 Rich and partner Pincus Green were indicted on 65 criminal counts, including income tax evasion, wire fraud, racketeering, and trading with Iran during the oil embargo (at a time when Iranian revolutionaries were still holding American citizens hostage).[7][17] The charges would have led to a sentence of more than 300 years in prison had Rich been convicted on all counts.[17] The indictment was filed by then-U.S. Federal Prosecutor (and future mayor of New York City) Rudolph Giuliani. At the time it was the biggest tax evasion case in U.S. history.[18]

Actual involvement with tax heist, Hillary.

Guilty by remote association, Trump.

Are we really to believe that the outrage over this meeting is sincere?

Etienne said...
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tcrosse said...

So this guy is wearing a Hillary campaign hat.

Sample Commenter said...

This morning the headline on the local news was Trump told of Russian government involvement. No mention of the liar and his lies in the story.

Luke Lea said...

Witness for the prosecution!

Drago said...

titus: "a fat ugly queen-sad"

You misspelled "older british gay guy".

richlb said...

Make America Cunty Again.

Matthew Sablan said...

“More than that, though, she should have been seen as an attorney for murderous Russian mobsters with high-level connections to the Russian Ministry of the Interior. Simple prudence should have prevented them from getting entangled with such a person, and not just for political reasons. The potential for blackmail or violence were too high to be acceptable to a rational person."

-- Then why did the Obama presidency use her as an aide in Congressional testimony?

Sample Commenter said...

Comments like Sablan's will get you booted from Washington Monthly in a heartbeat. I would try it but they banned me years ago.

viator said...

What does that word mean exactly? Is he referring to his head?

viator said...

Maybe Goldstone should have worn that hat to the 2017 Women's March.

clint said...

sunsong said...

“Simple prudence should have prevented them from getting entangled with such a person..."

Um. Isn't that exactly what happened?

One short meeting and Trump Jr. declined to become in any way entangled.

AllenS said...

CUNTY is the male equivalent of the Pussy Hat.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Guilty! Treason!

Ralph L said...

The consensus in the JOM comments is that the Dems set this up so Goldstone's email would be flagged by the NSA, enabling a FISA warrant to surveil the Trump campaign communications. Admiral Rogers may have told Trump about it after the election. Makes as much sense as anything.

hombre said...

Sunsong: “To put a kind of broader perspective on this, try to imagine a United States president who would be unconcerned about a $230 million tax fraud and who would shrug when members of the FBI beat a whistleblower to death in prison. "

Okay. I'm picturing Hillary - after she got her cut, of course. And I'm picturing Seth Rich. Next.

What does this have to do with the Trump, Jr, meeting?

steve uhr said...

someone told him to send the email to Trump Jr. Who and why?

Titus said...

Cunty thinks he's fab too

Titus said...

Cunty also pays for her trade and taps guys on Grindr with a profile that says generous?

Lucien said...

I would totally believe anything this guy said in an email, about how high level his information was and about how it was a token of support by all of Russia, plus his clients, of course, and how whoever was going to meet with me was really a Russian Government Lawyer.

So if I said, "If this is what you say it is, I love it . . ." The "If" would internally be all caps, boldface, underlined, but I'd be too polite to tell him that. My comments would unequivocally show how much I absolutely trusted in every syllable of his email.

Yancey Ward said...

The missing pieces of evidence are the e-mails between Goldstone and the Agalarovs.

I am willing at this point to believe Ms. Veselnitskaya's assertion that she didn't know Trump Jr.'s expectations about the meeting. Of all the theories, the one that makes the most sense in explaining this meeting about Clinton Dirt that contained no Clinton Dirt is that both parties to the meeting were lied to, I just don't know who did the lying, Goldstone or the Agalarovs.

Sample Commenter said...

Somebody who knew she was under surveillance inviegled her into Trump's orbit. Nah! Spies wouldn't do that!

Sample Commenter said...

Plus the British read any emails they feel like.

hombre said...

Yes, Reset Hillary and Flexible Barack are outshone by Putin at every turn. The Russians gets a quarter of our uranium with Hillary's approval after a Kremlin connected bank pays Billy a half mil for two speeches. Obama's energy policies supported by Hill make russia king of Eastern Europe's energy supply.

Yet the Dems and their pimps in the media demand we believe that rather than relish a Hillary rematch, Putin supports Trump's bid for POTUS.

Never mind that Trump is a u-u-ge presence, promises missiles for Poland and to expand the U.S. military, doesn't need Russian graft and promises U.S. energy to Eastern Europe, Putin want Trump, not Crooked Hillary, in the White House.

Makes perfect sense if you are Democrat lunatic.

Michael K said...

This has all the earmarks of an Obama op to get the FISA warrant.

The e-mail had "I'm a spy !" all over it.

Birkel said...

Poland and Romania, as of today, if memory serves, hombre.

chickelit said...
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chickelit said...

That's the loser who destroyed Donald Trump, Jr?

I think not, NYT. Roll again

William said...

If Goldstone plays his cards right maybe someday he can replace Christie as the official butt of all fat jokes.

Gk1 said...

Wow my leftie friends on Facebook are gradually coming to grips with the fact that this is like the 10th consecutive blockbuster "revelation" that will finally get trump, does not look like it will bear fruit. I really thought they were going to ride this liberal sugar high for at least a week but they are already conceding this is a distraction that allows trump to move ahead with his agenda unopposed.

Sample Commenter said...


“To put a kind of broader perspective on this, try to imagine a United States president who would be unconcerned about a $230 million tax fraud and who would shrug when members of the FBI beat a whistleblower to death in prison. Then imagine that this president would have the deceased posthumously (and wrongfully) convicted in court. Then this president would hire a lawyer for the criminals and make her his point person for lobbying against the resulting sanctions. And, finally, that he would send this mob lawyer to Trump Tower where she would be accepted with eager and open arms. - Washington Monthly


Ha ha ha! Here she is sitting with Democrat campaign mouthpiece and former Obama ambassador to Russia 5 DAYS AFTER THE NEFARIOUS MEETING!

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/07/11/curiousor-and-curiousor-natalia-veselnitskaya-pictured-with-obama-officals-in-dc-on-june-14th-2016/

Mob lawyer! Ha ha ha!

mockturtle said...

Yeah, a guy like this would certainly be on first name basis with the Crown Prosecutor of All the Russias.

He looks like he's also on a first name basis with Crown Royal Canadian Whiskey [or would a Brit not drink Canadian whiskey?].

tcrosse said...

or would a Brit not drink Canadian whiskey?

Only if it's free.

wwww said...



This guy's clip talking about mandy pandy is a must see.

Sample Commenter said...

The Democrat's big problem is that the memory hole is starting to sputter and cough up inconvenient stuff.

Sample Commenter said...

He was certainly stupid to take a meeting with a lawyer who was so close to the Democrats.

it was the Obama Justice Department that enabled the newest and most intriguing figure in the Russia-Trump investigation to enter the country without a visa.

Later, a series of events between an intermediary for the attorney and the Trump campaign ultimately led to the controversy surrounding the president's eldest son.


Just five days after meeting in June 2016 at Trump Tower with Donald Trump Jr., presidential son-in-law Jared Kushner and then Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, Moscow attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya showed up in Washington in the front row of a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on Russia policy, video footage of the hearing shows.
. - The Hill

Michael K said...

it was the Obama Justice Department that enabled the newest and most intriguing figure in the Russia-Trump investigation to enter the country without a visa.

This looks to me like a setup. Goldstone better watch his back if he is in DC late at night.