"The only new piece of information that has come to light is that political appointees in the Obama administration have sought to create a false narrative to make an excuse for their own defeat in the election."The quote appears in a NYT article titled "Obama Administration Rushed to Preserve Intelligence of Russian Election Hacking."
That article also contains material about Jeff Sessions, in case you want to comment about that. I've read the new material and don't think it adds up to anything. That's why I chose the Spicer quote for the post title. But if you want to discuss it, I've got an open mind. When I first saw the news alerts last night, I started saying "Jeff Sessions lied to Congress," even though I knew that wasn't quite accurate, and Meade pointed out that's how news stories like this are effective. Even when there's nothing misstated in the news article, it can work to put a false idea in your head.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 264 of 264Brando: This is what I'll never get about "AlwaysTrumpers"--to them it's all about "my side, right or wrong, but let's face it always right because we cannot ever do wrong". No need to look at things from a disinterested point of view because that just weakens us all in this existential struggle.
Oh bullshit Brando. Disagreeing with your disagreement or criticism doesn't amount to "my side right or wrong". Why should it? Are you always right or something?
Nor does recognizing and pointing out some hard facts about how the other side plays have anything to do with "we can never be wrong". As a matter of fact, doing that is pretty essential for stepping back and seeking a "disinterested point of view". You should try it some time.
But it is pretty funny to see normally skeptical adults being lectured about the virtues of a "disinterested point of view" by guys who toddle in obedient credulity after every new "Russian scandal" thrown up by (obviously disinterested and totally not unhinged or desperate!) players.
Michael K said...
"You were trying to sell this readership on the notion that a question was limited to a subject matter, 'about the campaign'."
I think the issue was whether Sessions was "affiliated with" the campaign. Was he ?
Sessions said this afternoon, that he looked at the ethics rules and that he decided to recuse himself from any investigation into "a campaign that he had a role in."
Counsel to the AG, or counsel to any client, you should be consistent with your advice, but after reading your writings, you would be one person that I would never listen to.
Not to worry Sessions kept his Make America Great cap in his back pocket, but the Russian took the color red to be a good sign-- another example that the big mistake is getting caught in Trump world. And now poor Jeff has to recuse himself.
Chuck: No, I am suggesting that they will get a chance to do their jobs and that consequently you and all haters of the "GOPe" have reason for concern.
Tremble, blasphemers against the holy name of GOPe!
I love it when Chuck gets ominous.
Fuck it. What do I care? Take the Trump admin down, launch investigations, smear everyone you can. Toss Sessions out, toss DeVos out, toss Tillerson out, toss Price out. Toss out Mattis and Kelly. Investigate everyone, prosecute everyone. Have a goddamned field day.
Fucking Republican party--so stupid, so painfully stupid. Enjoy your sense of superiority, moral and otherwise, Chuck. I don't know what else you think you'll get out of a Leftist victory, but surely you'll have that.
I guess here's the sensible bottom line:
1. Finding out whether and, if so, how Russians tried to influence the election is Kosher.
2. Trying to blame Trump for 1 is a joke, promoted by Losers.
Putting aside the question of why Russia would prefer Trump over crooked Hillary, what exactly does "hacked the election" mean to these lunatics? What do they believe the Russians did, in collusion with any Republican who so much as drank a white Russian in 2016, to get Trump in office? We all know there was a recount in a couple of key states and we all saw that the outcome in many places not only gave more votes to Trump, but uncovered serious overcount problems in Detroit for Hillary. So what exactly do these delusional individuals think the Russians and Sessions did to "hack the election"?
There is so much insanity currently out there on the political landscape, that it is going past being funny to being somewhat disturbing.
he looked at the ethics rules and that he decided to recuse himself from any investigation into "a campaign that he had a role in."
He looked at the howling hyenas of the media, along with a few traitorous assholes like McCain and Graham and decided, "Fuck it."
I would strongly urge him to use his free time to get the FBI going on that investigation of Hillary and her Foundation.
"Don't fuck with the Falcon," should be the message. Maybe they can make it part of the "Russian probe."
So what exactly do these delusional individuals think the Russians and Sessions did to "hack the election"?
They don't care. This is Democrats "Lawfare," the only kind of war they are still interested in.
The idea is to force the victim to spend all his or her (Palin) time swatting down ridiculous assertions by the left.
Michael Mann has done a great job on Mark Steyn.
Exile
And POTUS approved DAPL and KXL. The US and Canada are now setting the price. We now export. We also know Russia funded anti-fracking activists.
Sessions never said he had no contact with the Russians. He was asked if he has any contact relating to the 2016 election, and he said "No." Not the same thing. The behavior of the Obama carry-overs, the Democratic leadership, and the NYT/WaPo/CNN cabal over the past two months has been unprecedented and utterly dishonorable.
Browndog said...
"The leading NeverTrumpers signed their names to published individually bylined editorials, in a cover-story "Against Trump" issue of the National Review.
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Who needs to be 'sly'?"
I was speaking to the ones in Congress. The one's that proclaim publicly to support the Trump administration.
Even so, if you watched the CNN Town Hall with McCain and Graham yesterday, they were unapologetic and open about disagreements with Trump. They were not at all shy about distancing themselves from Trump, or from praising Trump's cabinet and national security staffing.
Tec Cruz today spoke up for Jeff Sessions. And, other Senators were suggesting that Sessions recuse himself from any DoJ investigations of the Trump campaign.
It all seems open, above-board, and completely unremarkable to me. Even predictable.
Brando said...
Yep, and there's the rank partisanship. You might consider that there might be some reason I'd want an investigation besides wanting to advance leftist memes.
What reason is that? Please elaborate.
The problem seems to be between the Russians (if it was the Russians) and Podesta and the DNC. And yet the proffered investigation is of Trump and his appointees. We have supposedly top people in the FBI, CIA, etc. whose job, real job, job description and all, it is to keep track of such things. But someone is supposed to appoint an amateur special prosecutor to look into this. And people - Chuck Brando - think the unvarnished truth will emerge unsullied by politics and accepted by everyone. Riiiiight.
a few traitorous assholes like McCain and Graham
You fucking piece of shit.
You're as bad as Trump, for whom words have no meaning. "Traitorous"? What a nasty worm you are.
Chuck said...
It all seems open, above-board, and completely unremarkable to me. Even predictable.
What is this call for "investigation" based on Chuck? What do we know?
1. Podesta clicked on a Phish mail a 10 year old could write.
2. A Bernie supporter at the DNC leaked their dirty laundry after they screwed Bernie.
3. Hillary lost.
Unremarkable? This is utterly unprecedented in the modern era. You are a joke.
Well, Trumpies -
Sessions has recused himself from any investigation on Trump, his campaign and Russia.
Sessions was a key person between Trump and an independent investigation.
Obama is winning. Trump is losing.
The FBI and IC are winning. Trump is losing.
Drip, drip, drip.
Soon the bath tub is full enough for Trump to drown.
Michael said...
Sessions never said he had no contact with the Russians. He was asked if he has any contact relating to the 2016 election, and he said "No." Not the same thing. The behavior of the Obama carry-overs, the Democratic leadership, and the NYT/WaPo/CNN cabal over the past two months has been unprecedented and utterly dishonorable.
I think you're wrong.
Watch the video:
https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000004965337/jeff-sessions-testimony-on-russia-contacts.html
Achilles:
No no no! You mis-read me.
What I was describing as being open, above-board, normal and even predictable was the behavior of leading Congressional Republicans in the nascent Trump era. Their positions on the various Trump controversies, after having been through the months of the Trump campaign. They don't like Trump. They do like much of what Trump will actually do. And as a result, they might be able to tolerate Trump.
All the denial about the possibility of fire behind all the smoke. Looks like one Trump campaign advisor after another are being outed. The investigations are ongoing and Trumpists will get to see for themselves that their hero wears a tarnished crown. The man is a friend to some very powerful oligarchs in Russia and looking at his cabinet we see him setting up his very own oligarchy right here in the US. It looks like Trump will take many powerful people down with him when he finally does go down.
Chuck said...
What I was describing as being open, above-board, normal and even predictable was the behavior of leading Congressional Republicans in the nascent Trump era.
So after being totally incurious through Fast and Furious, the IRS scandal, Benghazi, The DOJ scandal, Bergdahl, the CGI scandal among others democrats start calling for investigations and republicans are supposed to play along. Right. You are a joke. Anyone calling for investigations now after ignoring everything Obama and Clinton did is fucking ridiculous.
If any republicans go along with this obvious crap they are on the other side. The democrats have ZERO moral authority and are clearly and completely unethical.
"You fucking piece of shit."
Thank you. I am proud to join an honorable list of those who you don't like and say so in your charming fashion.
I did violate my personal rule to never look at a comment of yours.
McCain is indulging his ego at the cost of serious damage to the country and I don't care if you don't like my saying so.
I also emailed him as I am a constituent. Fortunately, we have Martha McSally as our Congressperson.
Unknown said...
All the denial about the possibility of fire behind all the smoke. Looks like one Trump campaign advisor after another are being outed. The investigations are ongoing and Trumpists will get to see for themselves that their hero wears a tarnished crown. The man is a friend to some very powerful oligarchs in Russia and looking at his cabinet we see him setting up his very own oligarchy right here in the US. It looks like Trump will take many powerful people down with him when he finally does go down.
Please describe exactly what the Russians did during the election.
Please cite all evidence you have that the Trump campaign collaborated with or benefited from anything the Russians did.
Also cite the motivations the Russians had in preferring Trump to Clinton.
This is not rhetorical. I would like to see any of you even pretend to act in good faith.
The real news is that the FBI has told DOJ who the former Obama administration officials are who have been leaking classified info to the press.
Chuck said...
You fucking piece of shit.
You're as bad as Trump, for whom words have no meaning. "Traitorous"? What a nasty worm you are.
Traitorous seems a fair representation. Graham and McCain are smart enough to know that if Trump is brought down our borders will remain open and the deep state will remain free to insert itself into every decision we make. We know they are both open borders shills and get along fine with the media when bashing republicans.
You seem on board with that effort. Are you? You actions say yes. I don't really care what you say.
"a few traitorous assholes like McCain and Graham"
Yes indeed. Rumor is that McCrazy had a pay-for-play foundation set up and collected $$$ from Saudi Arabia and other countries.
It certainly would account for his obsession with foreign Policy and constant trips abroad, during which he acts like a alternate POTUS.
As Lindsey Graham, he's probably being blackmailed by Soros over his sexual life in the closet.
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Achilles will be the most hurt to find out his hero who he thinks will save us from the oligarchs is one of the biggest baddest oligarchs of all. Achilles thinks everyone is stupid but himself. Oh my how he's being proven wrong. Too funny.
Senator McCain reminds my of Major T. J. "King" Kong. McCain will die a bitter, if he never gets to experience an USA exchange with Moscow.
Someone should implement this for Althouse - 'anti-troll' site makes you read before commenting.
Andrew: "The real news is that the FBI has told DOJ who the former Obama administration officials are who have been leaking classified info to the press"
Where is this being reported?
I agree with the commenter above who said the GOP in congress are fools if they decide to keep pursuing this "Russians hacked the election" nonsense. If their decision to give legitimacy to this mass hysteria by calling for special investigations and prosecutors and wasting our tax dollars is an attempt to destroy the Trump presidency -- or worse, if it is because they stupidly believe that going through with this charade will award them some sort of cachet from their leftist opponents... as if-- they should be aware that they are destroying themselves as well.
Both parties need the support of independent voters in order to win elections. Right now this independent voter is disgusted by both parties in congress-- the nutjob party vs the idiot party-- you can decide for yourself which is which.
Going forward I think I'll go back to my youth where I often voted third party because I didn't give a damn who won. To my young eyes one politician looked no different from any other. I used to put that down to youthful ignorance, but I'm starting to think that maybe I was right all along.
What difference does it make who wins when the ruling class is completely out of its mind? It prefers to spends all its time fighting like children, rather than trying to find bi-partisan solutions to the problems that are important to their constituents. I was going to say "to hell with them", but unfortunately that means to hell with all of us, as they take us down with them.
I would like to see someone like Andy McCarthy appointed as a special prosecutor. And I would love to see him get into the whole Russian story, plus, of course, the Muslim Brotherhood in the White House.
Remember Ken Starr began with Whitewater.
The Democrats need to learn that they can be wounded too. For far too long they have been free to damage Republicans with this stuff and skate when their own conduct comes up.
Pelosi was meeting with Assad when Bush was president. Dodd was meeting with Ortega when Reagan was president.
Michael K: McCain is indulging his ego at the cost of serious damage to the country and I don't care if you don't like my saying so.
Chuck isn't interpreting "traitorous" the way you meant it. McCain and Graham are surely not traitors to the thing that actually matters to Chuck -- the Holy GOPe.
Damaging the country? Who cares? Full of deplorables, and fuck them.
Best bet at this point is for Trump to call for a special prosecutor with enough cred for the Dems and GOP to do a full investigation of this whole thing. Get it started now, require a full report within a reasonable period of time, and get this thing over with. Then point out that this whole thing was a big nothing, pushed by partisans, and can't we all move on?
Hillary's emails didn't qualify for one.
Is this anywhere near that level?
Clearly no.
So, the standard should hold.
is that the FBI has very good indication that Russia-based agents hacked the DNC emails. That should be fully investigated
I don't see why a private entity having shitty IT security should be an issue for the government to spend a moment concerning itself with.
It has to do with getting a full investigation done to (a) ensure nothing untoward did actually happen (and if you trust the Russians then good luck with that) and (b) to expose this whole thing for a nothingburger.
Let's be blunt --- if it turns out to be a nothingburger (and with this Sessions thing, it doesn't even qualify as bad enough to qualify as a nothingburger), the same media/DNC/RINO groups will claim it was a whitewash.
Here's why I come down on it this way--if this same thing was happening with Clinton, I'd sure be calling for a full investigation. By what standard can I say it's only appropriate if done to one side?
Because the press wouldn't be demanding it as well.
If we had this exact same scenario with Clinton in the White House, while I guess you'd be saying "nothing doing here, stop chasing ghosts" I admit I'd be calling for an investigation to clear this up.
Let's make an apt comparison.
If Hillary won, would you be demanding an investigation of Pizzagate?
Let's be honest here.
With a Clinton, we have to have a smoking gun to even request an investigation. Here? "Well, there is no evidence. That's why we NEED an investigation!"
Do you honestly think these "questions" are more than partisan bullshit?
Lindsey Graham's current term of office extends to 2020. He beat his Dem opponent in 2014 by 15 points.
Graham has had the gift of no competition. At all. For years.
That can always change.
I don't like Trump. I never did. I prefer Trump, to any Dem alternative. And I haven't proposed any basis upon which to legally "get" him. The only extent to which I would propose "getting" Donald Trump would be to primary him in the summer of 2020. I hope that happens. So there; the extent to which I would like to "get" Trump.
You shouldn't complain. There is, literally, no more evidence that you aren't trying to "Get" Trump than there is that Russians hacked the election in Trump's favor.
Literally no less evidence of the claim against you.
I like your recalling this story. Of course the reason that most of us remember it, is because conservative media did a good job of making it a news story.
But of course the New York Times published it, at the time:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/27/us/politics/obama-caught-on-microphone-telling-medvedev-of-flexibility.html
And CNN covered it as well:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/26/open-mic-catches-obama-asking-russian-president-for-space-on-missile-defense/
They seemed a wee bit less concerned about it, wouldn't you agree?
a few traitorous assholes like McCain and Graham
You fucking piece of shit.
You're as bad as Trump, for whom words have no meaning. "Traitorous"? What a nasty worm you are.
I don't consider either a traitor to the US...but McCain has definitely behaved traitorously towards the Republican Party.
I never thought of myself in terms of being counsel to the AG. I was thinking of what I'd do, if I were a Senator, a House committee chairman, or if I were a President not named Trump.
So, you'd do patently insane and idiotic things?
There is a reason lawyers tell you to NEVER do that.
You do not forfeit your rights to make a moral point.
Sessions said this afternoon, that he looked at the ethics rules and that he decided to recuse himself from any investigation into "a campaign that he had a role in."
So he went above what a SCOTUS justice did in a major case just a few years ago. Or what Holder did in his entire term of office.
The FBI and IC are winning. Trump is losing.
Yes, the CIA running the country is such a grand idea.
Hillary won the popular vote by 3 Million. But, in an epic tactical mistake, she didn't campaign much in Wis or Mich.
Does anyone believe that the Russians somehow hacked the Wisc/Mich/Penn voting booths? I think not.
Does anyone believe that if Hillary had won, anyone would give a shit about this? I doubt it.
So, if the Dems wanna play the lawfare game, have at it. We know their sole motivation is to undermine the Trump Presidency, and try to win back the House. The GOP would be fools not to "resist" these bad faith games.
More so, we should tighten our voting system. I would suggest we start with voter ID laws and return to paper ballots. That oughta chase those scary Russians away.
McCain is a traitor to the GOP. I can't blame Graham because he's too busy blowing McCain to get an original thought in his head as is.
If dems can't cheat, they can't win.
I am always amused at the "popular vote" thing. Hillary won California by 4.8 million votes,
And lost the rest of the country by 2 million.
You never hear that mentioned. She is president of California.
"is that the FBI has very good indication that Russia-based agents hacked the DNC emails. That should be fully investigated"
"Very good indication"--weasel words-- which means they know squat, or they don't want to reveal to us what they know. It would not surprise me if the hacker and/or leaker was a disgruntled Bernie supporter.
Why the need for Congress to spend its time pursuing this? Let the FBI continue its investigation, assuming they have a compelling reason to think there is anything more to find. If they discover that Trump or Sessions or Bannon or Kellyanne gave the hackers the DNC passwords, they can let us know. Oh but wait... we already know how the hacker got the passwords don't we; it was due to Democrat incompetence. That must be Trump's fault. He probably told them how incompetent the DNC is.
There was a lot of hacking that occurred during the Obama administration from foreign entities. No one in the media or congress seemed to give a shit. I don't remember any calls for special congressional investigations regarding those hacks. Or concerns that anyone in the Obama administration was involved. Which is why any sane person knows this is just a witch hunt by a party that isn't mature enough to handle losing an election.
Drago said...
"Andrew: "The real news is that the FBI has told DOJ who the former Obama administration officials are who have been leaking classified info to the press"
Where is this being reported?"
Former U.S. Attorney Claims FBI Has Names of CIA Leakers
Before Obama left office, minions planted series of 'bread crumbs' for anti-Trump operatives
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/former-u-s-attorney-claims-fbi-names-cia-leakers/
"CIA officials know who has been leaking classified information to The New York Times and The Washington Post, and the officials have passed that information on to Attorney General Jeff Sessions, according to a former U.S. attorney for President Ronald Reagan.
Joseph diGenova, the former U. S. attorney for the District of Columbia under Reagan, told LifeZette that in private conversations with CIA officials they confirmed they have the names of alleged leakers and have given the names to the U.S. Department of Justice."
During the Cold War, the American left seemed to view Russia favorably. I also recall that Bernie Sanders went to the Soviet Union for his honeymoon. Jill Stein was a regular commentator on Russia Today, and Ed Schultz, former lefty propagandist,currently works for RT. Remember Walter Duranty of the NYT who completely bought Stalin's
propaganda during the 1930's. "I have seen the future and it works" is said to have been his reaction to his guided tour of collective farms and factories. He saw many "Potemkin Villages."
Incidentally, a new film "Bitter Harvest," opening soon, recounts the Soviet Union's deliberate starvation of millions of Ukrainians in the Holomodor. I want to see it even though it has tepid reviews. It will give wide exposure to Stalin's
brutal treatment of the Ukraine. Of course the Russians vehemently deny that the Holomodor ever occurred.
Senator colludes with Russians to undermine American Election.
Fen's law.
The democrats are not good people. Anyone who work with them is on the other side.
Unknown said...
Achilles will be the most hurt to find out his hero who he thinks will save us from the oligarchs is one of the biggest baddest oligarchs of all. Achilles thinks everyone is stupid but himself. Oh my how he's being proven wrong. Too funny.
Please describe exactly what the Russians did during the election.
Please cite all evidence you have that the Trump campaign collaborated with or benefited from anything the Russians did.
Also cite the motivations the Russians had in preferring Trump to Clinton.
This is not rhetorical. I would like to see any of you even pretend to act in good faith.
You are not even marginally stupid.
It would not surprise me if the hacker and/or leaker was a disgruntled Bernie supporter.
Who then committed suicide by shooting himself in the back twice. Right there in DC.
Unknown/Inga dodges Achilles' excellent questions:
Since she is extremely dense she can't even come up with plausible lies.
Potomac fever has not broken. The Dems and their public relations firms...CNN, ABC, CBS, NYT, AP etc... seem to be committed to their Chicken Little strategy to their long term detriment. We are a lot smarter than we were when the media did their job on Nixon and they simply aren't as influential today.
I think that part of what is getting glossed over with at least the Congressional hearings here is that they apparently include the leaking. It looks to me like the Republicans agreed to investigate the alleged Russian hacking in trade for the Dems allowing investigation of who leaked what. Pretty obviously, the Reps believe that the Russian hacking and meeting with Trump people is a big nothing burger. My guess is that the Dems want the Russian hacking investigation badly enough that they are willing to sacrifice the leakers. We shall see.
As I said before, the FBI and the DoJ need, and are likely to get, some scalps in the leaking. (The FBI because Dir Coney protected Crooked Hillary during the election, probably expecting her to win). The leakers outed themselves as enemies of Trump, and were willing to violate the Espionage Act to hurt him. Not wise. The Trump Administration needs some examples, to show the rest of the Executive branch who is boss, and not to leak, and the leakers volunteered to be the sacrificial lambs for this. Interesting that the CIA is trying to get on Trump's good side here.
Michael K -- relax, once they get rid of us opioid-snortin' flyover state drones they'll rediscover their conservative cred...
The Dems are getting blown out in the voting booths. They've lost the House, Senate, State Legislatures, Governorships, now the Presidency, and soon the Supreme Court.
So what's their Play?
Have a few Obama stalwarts leak inconsequential stuff to the WaPost and NYTimes, have Schumer and Pelosi make accusations based on the news articles. Yeah, the Ruskies and Trump screwed us out of Wisconsin's 10 electoral votes. Yeah... that's the ticket.
That's all you got, I ask?
https://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2017/03/02/us-senator-colludes-with-russians-to-influence-presidential-election/
This one is insane. Actually treason?
"McCain should have retired after the Keating 5 debacle."
McCain was OK for years after that. He was a first termer who was snookered by the Democrats who were the Keating supporters but needed "bipartisan" cover. They got McCain involved because Keating was a constituent. The rest were only interested in the Benjamins.
The effect, however, was to make McCain a sanctimonious jerk. His partnership with Russ Finegold was part of this. They did serious damage to Congress by forcing Congressmen to spend most of the day raising money. The staffs write the legislation along with lobbyists and then the administrative state finishes off the economy.
I as a volunteer for McCain in 2000 with a veterans group. He is getting senile and angry as he gets too old. A friend of mine had a personal encounter with him a few years ago and found him to be an asshole.
My friend was a Marine F18 pilot who was ordered to fly the jet to a McCain event, in Yuma I think. As McCain walked down the reception line shaking hands, my friend stood at the end of the line in his flight suit. No one could mistake who he was.
McCain ignored him and shook the hands of the local pols and donors.
I would like to see my Congresswoman, Martha McSally, in that Senate seat. Jeff Flake is not much better.
Achilles, relax. Inga doesn't even know what "evidence" means.
Her DNC talking points don't use terms like that.
I think the better assumption is that while Hillary was measuring for drapes in the oval office, so were a lot of her supporters who wanted plum jobs here and there in her inevitable administration. I find it easy to imagine some of those folks who thought they were headed to Foggy Bottom were in contact with the Russians, the Chinese, the you-name-its. So my advice to Sessions, or whomever it is who gets to set the scope of the investigation is... include all possible attempts to influence the election, foreign and domestic. Clinton's campaign, Democratic party operatives, etc. The whole nine yards. Including Google - whose search algorithm was highly suspected of placing a thumb on the scales of results for searches about Trump and Clinton during the campaign.
Ignorance is Bliss said...
Comanche Voter said...
As for me, I look at the Democrat's flailing (and mostly failing) and recall the line from the song "Me and Bobby McGee" that goes "when you ain't got nothing, you've got nothing to lose".
Wow.
Mis-attributing a Dylan quote? On the Professor's blog? Seems like a quick way to get yourself banned.
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Mis-attributing a Kristofferson song? On the Professor's blog? Wow. BANHAMMER TIME!
Still waiting for all these leftists who now see Russkies under their bed and behind every bush to apologize to Romney and Palin.
Yes, Ted Kennedy's 1980s request to collude with the Soviets to take down Reagan was one hundred thousand times worse than what Sessions supposedly did, even if it were true or had any evidence, which it isn't and doesn't. Has any lefty anywhere EVER gave a crap about that, which did in fact amount to treason by Kennedy in every single sense of the word? Hell no. Lion of the Senate, dontchaknow.
Fine, Althouse. If there really is nothing there, an investigation ought to be simple, clean, clear, fast, and readily understood and accepted by all sides. Let's git'er done. An independent investigation.
NeverTrumpers, the eGOP/Democrats and the MSM are never happier than when they think they have some fake news to promote.
the Obama-era stonewalling should not be emulated by the Trump Administration. Especially not when it is a Republican congress.
The problem with the Republican congress is that many of them, including the “leaders,” are NeverTrumpers – a group that adamantly opposes Trump. I cannot trust such a tainted group. And even though the Democrats are a minority that fact is irrelevant if many Republicans in congress are working hand in hand with the Democrats to oust Trump.
And it gets weirder, with Libby, insofar as Valerie Plame Wilson says that the Trump campaign reached out to her, to get her to support Trump, "to get back at Karl Rove."
The only thing weird is that this commentor is apparently willing to believe ANYTHING Valerie Plame Wilson says. Good God!
What I really want, and what I have mentioned, is an investigation.
Sure, that way the fake investigation of the fake news gets to be an item for every MSM outlet to trumpet(get it?) anytime there might be something favorable happening for Trump. They can draw it out the entire 4 years of Trump’s first term if they work it right. A nice tool for the NeverTrumpers, the MSM and eGOP/Democrats to use. Gotta squelch any good news regarding Trump. Right?
… NeverTrumper Brent Bozell been running the MRC? 30 years? More? … For a hell of a lot longer than Donald Trump has been a Republican, for absolute sure. Trump is late, to the conservative media party … I don't recall Trump ever donating to NRO, the Weekly Standard, AEI, Heritage or the Manhattan Institute.
This commentor suffers under a delusion. He needs to be reminded that the name of the party is the Republican Party, NOT the “Conservative” Party. That is, IF it is even a political party anymore. I think that a political party that gives such poor support to its own nominee and POTUS, working WITH the fucking Democrats to discredit him after that nominee won an incredible victory for it, is overdue for a Trump makeover.
And see how Trump does in 2020 after four years of 1.9% GDP growth.
Another NeverTrumper, Krugman by name:
If the question is when markets will recover, a first-pass answer is never.
Wishful thinking by a couple of asshole buddies.
… it seems to me an odd accusation; that I want to "get Trump" after I voted for him.
When the NeverTrumpers who claim they voted for Trump start acting like they voted for Trump then I’ll start believing they voted for Trump.
Aaaaand; Sessions is now recusing himself from all investigations on this subject...
Half a scalp is always soooo … disappointing.
I might hate Trump a little less, if his supporters weren't such assholes.
But NEVER doubt that he voted for Trump …
I like your recalling this story. Of course the reason that most of us remember it, is because conservative media did a good job of making it a news story … the New York Times published it, at the time … And CNN covered it as well …
Sure, there were times the fucking MSM had to cover news that was embarrassing to Obama but only when they had to. The NYT is especially adept at an occasional CYA light criticism of certain Lefties, like Obama, in order to try to shore up their credibility. Stuff they can use to offer up as evidence of their fairness, like the commentor just has. Obama was on tape. It couldn’t be ignored, sugarcoated or spun. That’s the ONLY reason the fucking NYT and CNN covered it.
Mark Levin asked a good question, "Did Obama use FISA to spy on his political opponents?"
Sean Davis, "Up to 30 Senate Democrats (!) met with Russian diplomats in 2015 to help grease the skids for Obama's Iran deal."
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