This morning @EPA sent out a press release highlighting reaction to Trump's climate Executive Order...this first quote seems off message: pic.twitter.com/Na2EWCrBzj
— Patrick Ambrosio (@Pat_Ambrosio) March 30, 2017
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March 31, 2017
"An honest mistake, or a deliberate act of sabotage from a rogue operator in the EPA press office?"
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Deliberate sabotage, not by a rogue operator. This is the squeal of the deep state being pricked.
At least it wasn't a racist attack on Maxine Waters!
"Seems" off message?
Protest. Rogue? They're high-diving around the office today. Anyone who gets fired can look forward to a smooth transition to the new career: Liberal hero / Brave Truth-Teller.
Someone who needs to find a real job.
Just zero the budget.
I agree that "rogue" is too kind.
Can you bury your head in the sand and then walk away?
Even if you marked the spot, how would you ever find it again?
"I agree that "rogue" is too kind."
How about Palin-esque? That would sting.
Now that's what I get for commenting from a phone. Meant high-fiving, of course. Freaking autocorrect.
exhelodrvr1 said...
At least it wasn't a racist attack on Maxine Waters!
I wish Althouse had blogged that story.
Solution is simple - close the EPA press office and RIF the employees. Not sure anyone would notice.
It's a ploy taken straight from the Fox News Network playbook, where they would infamously and often show footage of Republican politicos saying stupid or offensive things or who had been caught in some scandal or other, and would put up the label "Democrat Rep. ________" or "Democrat Senator ___________" underneath them on the television screen.
I couldn't believe this quote came from WV coal country's Shelly Capito, and it didn't. This is the actual quote from Capito's official website:
WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Senator Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) today joined President Donald Trump at the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in Washington, D.C. for the signing of the president’s Energy Independence Executive Order, which effectively kills President Obama’s harmful Clean Power Plan. Senator Capito issued the following statement applauding the Executive Order:
“Today, President Trump kept his promise to roll back one of the most harmful acts of overreach by the Obama administration – the so-called Clean Power Plan. If fully implemented, the Clean Power Plan would have completely decimated West Virginia’s vital coal industry while having no meaningful climate impact. Stopping this disastrous plan will preserve America’s coal industry, expand our manufacturing renaissance that is reliant upon affordable energy, and protect American families from unprecedented hikes in their electric bills. I was honored to join the president for the signing of this Executive Order, and I look forward to continuing working with the Trump administration to advance environmentally responsible policies that grow the economy – not kill jobs.”WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Senator Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) today joined President Donald Trump at the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in Washington, D.C. for the signing of the president’s Energy Independence Executive Order, which effectively kills President Obama’s harmful Clean Power Plan. Senator Capito issued the following statement applauding the Executive Order:
“Today, President Trump kept his promise to roll back one of the most harmful acts of overreach by the Obama administration – the so-called Clean Power Plan. If fully implemented, the Clean Power Plan would have completely decimated West Virginia’s vital coal industry while having no meaningful climate impact. Stopping this disastrous plan will preserve America’s coal industry, expand our manufacturing renaissance that is reliant upon affordable energy, and protect American families from unprecedented hikes in their electric bills. I was honored to join the president for the signing of this Executive Order, and I look forward to continuing working with the Trump administration to advance environmentally responsible policies that grow the economy – not kill jobs.”
Robert Cook said...
It's a ploy taken straight from the Fox News Network playbook, where they would infamously and often show footage of Republican politicos saying stupid or offensive things or who had been caught in some scandal or other, and would put up the label "Democrat Rep. ________" or "Democrat Senator ___________" underneath them on the television screen.
Links please.
No, not coincidental.
A MASSIVE purge of the executive branch is needed. Ignore civil service rules and fight them out in the SCOTUS as being an unfair impediment to the function of the Executive Branch that the Legislature lacks the authority to make.
Find whomever did it. Fire them immediately. Let them sue.
"So on Thursday the EPA did what government agencies do whenever the president signs a new policy: sent out a news release loaded with glowing quotes from supporters."
Actually, the whole idea of this seems weird and wrong to me.
Liberals are insane.
And I doubt Cookie ever watches Fox News.
Blogger Robert Cook said...
It's a ploy taken straight from the Fox News Network playbook, where they would infamously and often show footage of Republican politicos saying stupid or offensive things or who had been caught in some scandal or other, and would put up the label "Democrat Rep. ________" or "Democrat Senator ___________" underneath them on the television screen.
3/31/17, 7:10 AM
You got the idea that this is a real thing because you saw it on Media Matters, didn't you, Robert Cook?
"Find whomever did it. Fire them immediately. Let them sue."
Maybe.... but lawfare seems to be the order of the day. Some judge will block this type action.
I say transfer the jerk to the most rural, nothing burger outpost available. Put a chair in a closet and let him/her sit there. In six months find outpost #2 and send them there. If the climates are particularly harsh and the locations are particularly conservative so much the better.
This type of swamp creature can not live in the dusty fields of reality. They will resign.
Robert Cook, 7:10:
I don't recall hearing or reading of that. I do recall MSNBC's labeling George Wallace a Republican, though, so - innocent mistakes all around, I guess.
Wouldn't the first question to ask be: 'is this correct?'. The EPA is not an advertising agency.
choirmom beat me to it. I found the same press release from Capito.
No WV Senator would say what the EPA claimed, Evah
https://www.capito.senate.gov/news/press-releases/capito-joins-president-trump-to-sign-measure-reversing-harmful-clean-power-plan-
Honest sabotage?
AReasonableMan said...
The EPA is not an advertising agency.
With a few possible exceptions ( maybe the NSA? ), every government agency is an advertising agency, promoting the people and policies of that administration.
For example, then next time you are pumping gas, check the sticker on the pump showing when it was last inspected by whatever state agency checks them for accuracy. Most likely, the largest print on the sticker is the name of the head of that agency.
Sly trickster playing an early April Fools' joke?
@ Left Bank
@ 'AReasonableMan'
Dishonesty is a good look on you both.
"I wish Althouse had blogged that story."
I saw it and would have blogged it, but didn't get to it when it was new.
There's another new thing on that I saw this morning. I may get to it.
Honest mistake is not credible. I doubt even Wapo believes it's a valid option. They're just playing the "even handed" game.
Fire or reassign the whole department and start over......
BTW,
Given the gist of that quote, how appropriate that it came from someone named Carper.
JAORE said...
"Find whomever did it. Fire them immediately. Let them sue."
Maybe.... but lawfare seems to be the order of the day. Some judge will block this type action.
I say transfer the jerk to the most rural, nothing burger outpost available.
Firing him is hard, but defunding the position is easy.
It would seem that noting the comments of a US senator on problems for which the agency is responsible is well within bounds of the agency's role. The real question is whether or not the comments are true.
Robert Cook said...
It's a ploy taken straight from the Fox News Network playbook, where they would infamously and often show footage of Republican politicos saying stupid or offensive things or who had been caught in some scandal or other, and would put up the label "Democrat Rep. ________" or "Democrat Senator ___________" underneath them on the television screen.
This comment is straight from the left wing playbook whereby they assert whatever they fantasized about while smoking hash around the drum circle. Revealingly this describes every Cook comment.
Sabotage is too strong a word, though. This sabotages the Trump administration about as powerfully as bathroom graffiti sabotages a high school principle.
@JPS, that was an excellent auto-correct fail.
I don't think a transfer would work -- the EPA would probably be on the hook for relocation expenses. If firing is not an option, and it might not be, then an transfer to a different office that requires an onerous commute would be better.
Someone took van Jones to heart
Tell me again why I'm paranoid to believe we're plagued by a Deep State in this country.
Were I Trump, I would relocate the EPA to someplace such as Iraan, Texas. On the weekends, if they want some big-city action, they can drive all the way in to Ozona or perhaps Fort Stockton.
@ 'AReasonableMan'
You look good in that color. Is it called dissembling?
Implement a new EPA outreach program whereas every 6 months, you relocate those within the EPA to new locations. I would start with Alaska, rural Alaska. Then Death Valley, then the middle of Kansas, next the middle of no-were Nevada, etc., etc., etc.
AND I would use the existing EPA budget to do it. No increases as well as a hiring freeze. ALSO, NO federal department employee transfers. No moving from one agency to another.
As they are the EPA, no AC in the summer. Legal pads and pencils instead of computers, for the planet!
I nominate Todd as Undersecretary of Leviathan Management.
I voted probably sabotage. Given that the quote in question appears to be fabricated or at minimum mis-attributed, I am wavering. I suppose it is possible that some folks at the EPA thought it was funny that the West Virginia senator would act completely opposite of what would be expected, typed something up for their own amusement, and then accidentally included it in the tweet.
Regardless, they should be fired.
It's the Resistance.
All cons should state that tweeting false stuff should result in termination.
This is very serious. Our government leaders spreading BS must result in firing.
Carry on.
All Liberals should state that any government employee is encouraged to substitute their own opinion for the directives of their boss....and behave accordingly.
AReasonableMan said...
"Wouldn't the first question to ask be: 'is this correct?'. The EPA is not an advertising agency."
You don't think it is biased because you cannot perceive bias in people who agree with you. That is the nature of bias.
Don't know, but I've heard from a friend of a friend that EPA was told to expect 50% lay-offs. I heard he was looking for a new job. Wife is worried.
Sounds like it's common knowledge half the work force will be gone soon. Wouldn't be surprising if someone acted out during the 2 week notice.
Inga said...
"It's the Resistance."
I hope you are joking.
It is time for democrats to read their history books and remember what happened the last 2 times they fought federal law. Democrats have a nasty habit of pulling in a bunch of poor minorities and mistreating them.
Gahrie said...
All Liberals should state that any government employee is encouraged to substitute their own opinion for the directives of their boss....and behave accordingly.
Except the Marriage License Lady. She should go to jail... /sarc
Pettifogger suggests: Were I Trump, I would relocate the EPA to someplace such as Iraan, Texas. On the weekends, if they want some big-city action, they can drive all the way in to Ozona or perhaps Fort Stockton.
It has been discussed once or twice here that ALL federal agencies should be relocated to rural areas around the country. There is no reason whatever to keep them concentrated in DC other that perpetuation of the elitist bubble that has existed for decades.
BTW, I like Ft. Stockton. West Texas is windy & dusty but its wide-openness and its excellent roads have real appeal.
Gov't bureaucrats may not like Trump or Pruitt, but they are not generally willing to put themselves in harm's way on account of that. They all have mortgages to pay and can't afford to give the new team a reason (let alone an extra reason) to get rid of them. That's the main reason why bureaucratic resistance is not often an in-your-face exercise (that's mostly a game played by former bureaucrats and out-of-office types), but instead is usually an exercise in slow-walking, of 'yesing' the Man without any real carry-through.
Someone(s) in the EPA need to be fired ASAP. Actually in almost every agency.
And if they can't be fired...like Pettifogger and Mockturtle suggest, relocate them to some far flung area. They can be given some sort of busy work, in a windowless dungeon cubicle and manual typewriters. Keep them off the internet and away from twitter.
"BTW, I like Ft. Stockton. West Texas is windy & dusty but its wide-openness and its excellent roads have real appeal."
Is this a goose/gander thing-y?
IOW, will DJT also be required to give up Mar a Logo, golf courses, Manhattan, WH, etc so he can be stuck in some wasteland? He could learn to clear brush, like bush.
For those who think Fox News Network is a respectable news entity and would never misidentify the party of a politician, here's a story about it. I remember seeing clips of these on occasion while they were happening and the "mistakes" were caught and reported on by others.
Take away his Swingline stapler and make him fill out endless TPS reports. Relocate his desk to a closet in the basement and stop paying him.
"Take away his Swingline stapler and make him fill out endless TPS reports. Relocate his desk to a closet in the basement and stop paying him."
To be clear, this is re the EPA person. I.e., not the dude in WH who uses the internet to send out lies, right?
Robert Cook said...
For those who think Fox News Network is a respectable news entity and would never misidentify the party of a politician, here's a story about it.
Fox news has been on the air for twenty year, and in those 175,200+ hours of reporting the article you linked points out three cases of the type of mislabeling that you accuse them of.
Sounds like they are more respectable than the places you choose to get your misinformation.
To be clear, this is re the EPA person. I.e., not the dude in WH who uses the internet to send out lies, right?
Close..this is the person who has decided to undermine the authority of his boss instead of doing his job.
Choice five: "'o' Is this a trick question?"
Cookie, I, for one, do not consider ANY major news network honest or reputable. Including Fox.
Protection not= Destruction.
EDA
It appears to be fabricated. Is it libel?
The reality of the attitude of many/most government employees makes this an easy call.
Regulators gotta regulate.
They have a single minded devotion to their cause, in this case protecting the planet. More regulation is always better for the cause. Broader scope (greenhouse gas emissions) and more power and budget is a good thing. Any lessening of their power is not just bad, but evil. People will die a horrible death if we reduce their power. It's for the children.
Birkel said...
I nominate Todd as Undersecretary of Leviathan Management.
3/31/17, 9:12 AM
I am both humbled and honored to even be considered for such a position. I promise, here and now in front of my friends, family, countrymen, and the Lord Almighty, that if selected for such a monumental position, I would carry out my assigned duties to the utmost of my abilities! God bless you all and thank you, thank you very much.
Does the position include a really swell hat? I can't wear ball-cap hats, my head is to narrow and they don't look right. Something with a wide rim is preferred...
Don't get the wrong idea! My head is not like freakishly narrow or anything, just too narrow for that good "ball cap" look...
"It's a ploy taken straight from the Fox News Network playbook, where they would infamously and often show footage of Republican politicos saying stupid or offensive things or who had been caught in some scandal or other, and would put up the label "Democrat Rep. ________" or "Democrat Senator ___________" underneath them on the television screen."
-- That's a common error by multiple media sources, not unique to Fox.
"It's the Resistance."
-- The Resistance is a stupid name for a group of well-paid people anonymously sabotaging a legitimate government.
Or, if they want to "resist," do it legitimately and walk away from their government jobs.
At least the marriage license lady, wrong as she was, had the strength of her convictions to do civil disobedience in the light of day, instead of undermining her boss in secret.
Since when is the truth "off message"? Since Trump became president.
@ Todd
http://www.everythingaudrey.com/5-iconic-audrey-hepburn-hats/
You have your choice of five different hats.
Birkel, I must say that this one might work best as the daily wear, position hat:
http://cdn.everythingaudrey.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/audrey-hepburn-straw-hat-fedora.jpg
With this one for "official" affairs of state (posh parties, balls, etc.):
http://cdn.everythingaudrey.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/audrey-hepubrn-hats-my-fair-lady-hat.jpg
With the proper outfit, I believe I could pull it off.
Robert Cook: For those who think Fox News Network is a respectable news entity...
"Respectable news entity". Lol.
"I'll have you know that Madame Belle's, unlike the whorehouses I frequent, is not a respectable whorehouse!"
Grow up, Robert.
And, Cookie, I'll try to break this to you gently: Carnival games are rigged!
"It's the Resistance."
Paid for with our tax dollars.
And you're just fine with that.
Todd -
Try the Raylan Givens. Rumor has it that it comes with a carry permit.
http://www.knudsenhats.com/justified.html
Rick Turley said...
Todd -
Try the Raylan Givens. Rumor has it that it comes with a carry permit.
http://www.knudsenhats.com/justified.html
3/31/17, 2:38 PM
Wife and I loved that series. That hat is pretty good. I have of a similar style of dark straw with an open breathable weave. I like it. I am down to that one and two Panama's.
Cause of the shape of my head and the Army cap style, there was not one single photo of me from my service days that doesn't make me cringe. There were additional factors like the thick "Drew Carry" glasses and that even after "bulking up" in basic I did not have enough weight on me...
For those who think Fox News Network is a respectable news entity and would never misidentify the party of a politician, here's a story about it. I remember seeing clips of these on occasion while they were happening and the "mistakes" were caught and reported on by others.
No one here thinks Fox News "never" makes a mistake. Nice straw man though.
The argument is, do they do this more than any other news outlet?
I would argue the evidence is clear. If the offending party is Democrat, the media is likely to leave off the D. If Republican, they are likely to include the R. Misindentifying the political party is much more rare. Leaving off that valuable piece of info is more subtle. It works really well on the Robert Cooks of the world. IE: Those people who believe that those with whom they disagree are the fools, and they alone are the wise.
"The EPA is not an advertising agency."
Not for lack of trying. Think of it as the temple of a new religion.
There were additional factors like the thick "Drew Carry" glasses
We called those "birth control glasses".
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