July 28, 2016
We've reached the last convention night.
I guess the only thing that matters is Hillary's speech, but feel free to talk about whatever happens. Me, I'm thinking there are just too many speeches. What's left to say?
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You know a strong one when every other word out of her mouth isn't "woman."
Exactly.
Hillary is more insecure than she wants people to know. She just covers it over with a lot of determination.
Eight years of listening to this condescending, angry, ranting is going to be pure torture. I long for the sweet embrace of death.
what is she strong about, she won her senate seat because she was the wife of a president, who stood by while he humiliated her, she lost to obama, unfairly I think and she took a job, where she was stripped of negotiating authority, she crushed a popular movement with 150 million dollars collected from every sordid corner of the word, from nigerian conman to saudi sheikhs,
Hillary is crapping on her biggest donors. Now she is apping Trump. She is flogging scientism as science and espousing her progressive bona fides. She just promised us to make us all debt free by bankrupting the country.
Good pay for hard working Americans. Said by a person who charges Deuce and a quarter for forty minute speeches? Gonna hand out 15 bucks an hour?
She's actually doing a decent job with this speech.
She's building on a lot of the stuff that Obama talked about. And she's incorporating contrasts to Trump in it pretty well.
@HeideCruise ol' '97, so we'll be seein' ya on the flipside...
KTHXBI
Are her eyes getting red?
Sadly, she isn't speaking to Chuck in this speech.
Chuck wants to be #nevertrump so badly. Why can't she toss him a bone?
Gad, half these chicks cheering re "let women make their own health decisions" would have a tough time getting someone to impregnate them. I don't think they should be too concerned about keeping abortions free.
This makes me mad. We're going to pay for all of this new spending by making the rich pay their fair share in taxes. There isn't nearly enough money there even if you took it all. Stop lying.
Margaret Thatcher was the Iron Lady. Hillary is the Iron Maiden.
Rhythm and Balls said...
She's actually doing a decent job with this speech.
She's building on a lot of the stuff that Obama talked about. And she's incorporating contrasts to Trump in it pretty well.
7/28/16, 10:09 PM"
Half of what she said is straight plagiarism from Trump. Now she talking about stiffing, but she conveniently forgets that hers and Bills buds screwed the US treasury out of a trillion in bad mortgages. Now she talks of national security.... Jesus H Christ what brazeness!
Tuned in for a grand total of 5 seconds. Shrilldabeast shreiking "We will follow the money!"
Well, you're good at that, and I have eardrums to preserve - changing over to PGA highlights.
"Why does it bother men to see a strong woman?"
You know a strong one when every other word out of her mouth isn't "woman."
Exactly, Meeea. I don't recall Thatcher or Meir playing the woman card.
Rhythm and Balls said...
She's actually doing a decent job with this speech.
She battled Obama to a draw in their debates but I don't see this as a good forum for. The plan here has been to show that people like her, really really like her.
Now that she is talking about defeating the enemy and going after them, it's all tepid applause and protesters.
She cites the Iran deal as good! Breached already by Iran. We got screwed.
"I'm proud we put a lid on Iran's nuclear program".
If she's President for two terms she'll be President when Iran sets off their first bomb.
Well, I think the speech will do what it needs to do.
The only question left, to my mind, is how this tone she's setting will play when it counts - in the debates.
She comes across as inflexible, whereas Trump's the one who seems like he will try every trick in the book, and invent a few new ones while he's at it. Which approach will win the debates? I'm not sure.
I think that to decisively beat Trump in debates she will have to seem more flexible and creative than him. Not less.
Is Hillary still a crook and a liar even after a well crafted speech?
YES!
She battled Obama to a draw in their debates
LMAO.. She beat him to a pulp so hard that they started asking her questions first so he could steal from her answers. There were SNL skits about reporters fluffing pillows for Obama. His performance was a joke.
She battled Obama to a draw in their debates but I don't see this as a good forum for. The plan here has been to show that people like her, really really like her.
I'm not sure what you mean, but I think the "plan" is different. She's been setting out for decades for a presidential coronation where her aggression is actually rewarded. And I think that a convention nomination is finally the forum that allows for that.
Ok, I now believe Hillary needs to be prosecuted.
I mean seriously, after listening to this, who would pay her, legitimately, six figures, to give a speech?
Hillary: "We have nothing to fear but fear itself."
Hillary: "We can't afford to have a President who is in the pocket of the gun lobby. I don't want you to be shot by someone who shouldn't have a gun in the first place."
She beat him to a pulp so hard that they started asking her questions first so he could steal from her answers.
Nonsense. Obama was legendarily witty and cool in 2008.
During the debates, Anderson Cooper asked Obama how he was going to bring change if he was being advised by all of Hillary's former cronies. Hillary loudly laughed and cackled in agreement while baiting Obama further. He famously replied, "I look forward to having you advise me too, Hillary."
Hillary may be many things - good and bad. Quick on her feet when it comes to a joke (or to light up your smoke) she is not.
"We can't afford to have a President who is in the pocket of the gun lobby"
! Trump is worth more than the entire "gun lobby" !
It's high time...and she wants it.
This historical moment delayed by a black man.
Eric, because her "speech" was "nice to meet you, if you have my speaking fee, you'll be granted access. Oh, 225,000.00, it's cut correctly, good day, you are on the secret access list.
Jumps into her SS limo and whoosh, off she goes.
shiloh said..."What's left to say?"
Althouse 90/10 con majority continued sarcasm and hate notwithstanding, the first woman of a major political party will accept her party's nomination for president.
Historic!
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You seem to confuse "historic" with "a good thing".
Pearl Harbor was "historic".
It was NOT a good thing.
ERGO, just because something happens for the first time, that does not make it a good thing.
Barack Obama was the first African - American President.
Barack Obama is the worst President in American history.
Barack Obama was "historic", but definitely not a "good thing".
Get it?
Oh yeah, the bastard was arrogant with his wisecracks, but that does not mean he had answers and he still does not after 8 years.
Hillary is not a particularly warm person. As someone stated before. Hillary could not be a c#*t because lacks the warmth and depth.
Her prosody is definitely Republican. The loudness and aggression in her voice is more Republican than I've ever been comfortable with or remember hearing in a Democrat. There is so much anger and determination there, it really risks alienation from people who identify with happier emotions.
A bit of anger and determination is fine. Maybe even a lot of it is fine in this moment.
But I don't think she will be able to rely on it as much as she wants to.
AprilApple said...
even after a well crafted speech
This is literally the first positive thing I have ever heard AA say about Hillary. Really the first thing that didn't involve Hillary being jailed or prosecuted. Maybe I am misreading this speech and it is better than I think.
Hillary's only trick is to appear inevitable. That doesn't draw voters to the polls, but it attracts donors and discourages the other guy's donors. Her message during the primaries was not a counter to Sanders message, it was "I have already won." Breaking that idea is how Obama won against her in 2008. The only way Trump can win is to break the idea that Hillary is inevitable. He has fourteen weeks.
Oh yeah, the bastard was arrogant with his wisecracks,...
It's called a sense of humor, and it's a good thing. You might want to consider getting yourself one. It helped Obama win a landslide or two.
but that does not mean he had answers and he still does not after 8 years.
Which is why she hugs him and "his legacy" so close.
Get your stories straight, Hillarian Hillaryite.
"but that does not mean he had answers "
He needed no answers. Both were representing the same coalition which just adjusted itself to a new figurehead. The problem is not the figurehead, but the coalition. Obama, Clinton, same-same.
Ignore the person.
"Why does it bother men to see a strong woman?"
You've defined "men" and "strong woman" improperly in this context.
harridan: a scolding, vicious woman; hag; shrew.
Origin of harridan: perhaps alteration of French haridelle thin, worn-out horse, large, gaunt woman (compared with the initial element of haras stud farm, though derivation is unclear)
Should we not be allowed to say it because there's not a male form of the word?
Just off-camera are those enormous spittoons she ordered be put in place---just in case her drug-resistant strain of TB (picked up in Huma's basement) leads to a coughing fit.
ARM - did she craft it? I doubt it.
Actually - I'm not listening or watching. I'm sure she is doing a good enough job based on what Balls says. and I'm not surprised. While her voice is eternally grating - she is smart enough to smear all the right bromides over her believers.
It's for the Children.
Ok, this right here, at this very moment, this is the best part of her speech.
The silence is beautiful.
And if women candidates are so important for our young women, Jill Stein will have an open invitation to the debates, right?
Hard to do when the parent media company has already made its candidate selection and doesn't want to waste a donation, no?
Hillary has just dumped on Bill's crime legislation. She just equated the lives of criminals with the lives of cops. Well I give her props, she is consistant, she is on all sides as long as it works for her. Eight years ago she dumped on McCain, now she just gushed and praised him. If Trump loses eight years ago the Democrats will gush and praise Trump. Pm137 although I just trashed Hillary the BS politician I still stand by what I said about Chelsea and what I said about Hillary and Bill as parents and as a couple. I'm capable like most of us here of walking and chewing gum at the same time.
Major props to the Democrats on one thing, they really are better at stagecraft than Republicans.
ARM - I cannot stand her - she's a liar and a greedy power obsessed money grubber who WON'T GO AWAY. Still, she has political skills and Trump better get ready for the debates and do some studying.
If she actually offers cabinet/administrative positions to Bernie in those aspects of domestic policy that she mentioned, I could imagine giving her a chance.
But that aggression. Damn. The world doesn't hate you as much as you fear it does, lady.
Fireworks. An omen...
It's what our streets will look like in about18 months if God forbid she wins.
She is doing what she needs to do to get to Nov and win. Because those people are not to be trusted. On Jan 20, 2017, we will say to the guy who didn't amount to a hill of beans, good riddance, get lost.
Why are some women ashamed of saying they are women? Why not embrace what you are? Stop tying to make women behave in a set of parameters. Don't say you are a woman! How stupid. Just stop the nonsense already, it's 2016. She is stronger than both of you pig together meeeeea and Mockturtle.
Amazing speech, she hit it out of the park. This what what presidential looks like, not the poor imitation Trump plays at.
"Why does it bother men to see a strong woman?"
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LOLZ!!!
You mean like Golda Meir? Maggie Thatcher? Marie LePen? Theresa May?
Any mention of how she erased pages and pages of PRO-TTP from her paper-back?
Any mention of the Clinton Foundation?
On Jan 20, 2017, we will say to the guy who didn't amount to a hill of beans, good riddance, get lost.
Then I will say the same to her. Thanks for confirming for me the mirror in you that I always suspected seeing in her.
You people really are miserable, angry, horribly insecure assholes who deserve the lack of goodwill that you foment.
"Expand voting rights?? Wtf?"
For core Democrat constituencies like, oh, felons and illegal aliens.
Rhythm and Balls said...
Her prosody is definitely Republican. The loudness and aggression in her voice is more Republican than I've ever been comfortable with or remember hearing in a Democrat
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Then you need to clean the shit out of your ears. Listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0
We will say to the "guy", President Obama, who rightfully won two elections, "We will miss you". Amazing that there are still sore losers like Pms around. Didn't the PUMAs disband? What a hanger on.
Amazing speech, she hit it out of the park.
It was an OK speech but orders of magnitude better than a nervous Trump keenly reading the teleprompter for dear life and shouting at the top of his voice.
I've said this before, but not on Althouse. If a conservative wants to win the presidency, all they have to do is vocally and repeatedly support the second amendment. Americans like guns. Especially older, white, working class Americans like guns. When they read about a mass shooting, they don't think "it's terrible that person had a gun", they think "if I was there and I had a gun I would've been a hero!"
If Romney had enthusiastically embraced the idea of gun ownership as an individual constitutional right in 2012, he would be running for his second term. Abortion, tax policy, immigration, the deficit -- none of that matters compared to gun rights.
46% of your party is not a "hill of beans." It's a huge deficit that she cannot make up on her own. Unless she actually believes those things.
Otherwise, then get ready for impeachment at best or a one-term disaster at worst.
Your pick.
You simply cannot successfully run an administration and head up its party with half of it hating you. That's not how it works. This is not a fucking Chinese communist dictatorship, twat.
You people are as insecure, retributive and power-hungry as Trump. It's UGLY. And it will lose in the end.
"Why are some women ashamed of saying they are women? Why not embrace what you are? Stop tying to make women behave in a set of parameters. Don't say you are a woman! How stupid. Just stop the nonsense already, it's 2016. She is stronger than both of you pig together meeeeea and Mockturtle.
Amazing speech, she hit it out of the park. This what what presidential looks like, not the poor imitation Trump plays at."
OMG, you are one daft chick.
Some things are hard to forget and forgive. Wasted 8 years and things are worse, so worse that a buffoon like Trump can emerge and win the nomination.
"Abortion, tax policy, immigration, the deficit -- none of that matters compared to gun rights."
I think that's nuts.
pm317 is angry that Bernie didn't need to marry Bill Clinton and hang on to his and Obama's coattails in order to get almost as close to the nomination (and a stronger shot at the presidency).
HeideCruise: "Why are some women ashamed of saying they are women?"
LOL
These days men aren't even ashamed of saying they are women!
Especially older, white, working class Americans like guns.
Younger black Americans like guns, too, but are less concerned about the Second Amendment. Because they know it doesn't make any difference.
Some things are hard to forget and forgive. Wasted 8 years and things are worse, so worse that a buffoon like Trump can emerge and win the nomination.
Look at the bubble you live in. Even your goddess-icon thanked Obama for leading our way out of Bush's Recession. The same recession brought on by cozying up to Wall Street and all of her husband's horrible errors.
So make up your mind. You are now officially contradicting your leader.
I realize she contradicts herself all the time. But I thought now, on the campaign trail, she might start aiming for consistency and integrity for once in her life. She must realize that this is now what she needs to do - and indefinitely thereafter. She doesn't get to constantly change her message like she does her hairdo and wardrobe style any more.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and make a prediction . . .
The day before the new president is sworn in, in January, 2017, Obama will resign so that Biden can be president for a day. A reward for a good soldier.
President Biden will immediately summon all female White House Staff and order them to stand in a line. He will then proceed to walk down the line, feeling each woman's breasts while he makes innocuous comments.
"You've been here how long? Gosh, I can't believe I've forgotten your name."
"It's been a great eight years, hasn't it?"
"Remember to get your last check from the chief of staff."
"Mary, isn't it? How are the grand kids?"
pm317 said...
so worse that a buffoon like Trump can emerge and win the nomination.
To the extent that Obama can be blamed for the emergence of Trump wouldn't this be a good thing for Hillary? He is the only person with negatives worse than hers.
Hillary's only trick is to appear inevitable. That doesn't draw voters to the polls, but it attracts donors and discourages the other guy's donors. Her message during the primaries was not a counter to Sanders message, it was "I have already won." Breaking that idea is how Obama won against her in 2008. The only way Trump can win is to break the idea that Hillary is inevitable. He has fourteen weeks. <-- This!
I came away from her speech with a desire to learn more -- much more -- about Citizens United. She has made overturning this decision the sine qua non of enacting everything else she proposes. I'm intrigued that the basis of the case was an attempt to silence free speech and in particular free speech (criticism) against her specifically.
Any reading suggestions would be helpful. Thanks in advance. I'm also going to review the Althouse archives and commentary on Citizens United.
"Abortion, tax policy, immigration, the deficit -- none of that matters compared to gun rights."
A gross overstatement. Yeah, you can secure chunks of your base this way but the margin of victory is always shifting amphorously in the middle. Which is why Trump has avoided staking out positions in the culture war, even at the RNC. Hillary, on the other hand, seems frantic to secure her base.
Local news talking about Chelsea injected "...Hillary is seen as a successful Mom..."
Huh?
Do they get brownie points every time they use "successful" when referring to her?
Yeah, uber-feminisa,
I hear you get extra points for 'turning someone.
You are not even in the same class as ol' '55
HeideCruise vewy cwever
Bring back 55
Bring back 55
Bring back 55
She is very sexy!
So, the chants of "Hillary!" were to cover protesters.
To the extent that Obama can be blamed for the emergence of Trump wouldn't this be a good thing for Hillary?
No, for the sake of the country, I wish it didn't have to be this way, propping up an inexperienced, incompetent guy into that office 8 years ago when there were better options. You don't push the electorate to the brink.
So, the chants of "Hillary!" were to cover protesters.
Totally.
I really want to know what each of those muffled chants consisted of.
"Why are some women ashamed of saying they are women."
What kind of stupidity is that? I've never had to go around saying I was a woman because it's pretty darned obvious.
Not only that, what difference does it make? I thought this whole gender fluidity thing meant that it's all good no matter what you are. Lady, Gent or none of the above.
Hillary is obsessed with killing any speech that is anti-hillary
citizens united
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/09pdf/08-205.pdf
You seem to confuse "historic" with "a good thing".
Pearl Harbor was "historic".
It was NOT a good thing
__________
You know, Leni Riefenstahl was "historic" too. She was the first great woman director, was she not? Shiloh and Unknown (the dumb Unknown), applaud the glass ceiling broken by the director of "The Triumph of the Will." Now that was historic.
Elizabeth Bathory, now she broke a glass ceiling there too.
I am not going to clap like a mindless seal just because OMG!!! Hillary!!! Woman!!! Historic!!!!
4 years of private Catholic girls' school cured me forever when it came to "Yay!!! Girl power!" horseshit.
HIllary wants to punish anyone who speaks out against her.
She and her corrupt media lie and say "Citizens United" is about corporate money. Bullshit.
Yo Exile.
R&B noted: You simply cannot successfully run an administration and head up its party with half of it hating you. That's not how it works. This is not a fucking Chinese communist dictatorship, twat.
Well at the risk of sounding alarmist, that's exactly why her primary focus -- first stated goal -- of appointing SCOTUS justices specifically to overturn Citizens United has me worried. How would criticism against Hillary have fared had that been decided the other way?
How would criticism against Hillary have fared had that been decided the other way?
This is where I'm hoping that Althouse could help in the coming months.
From the limited amount of coverage I've seen, even Fox News seems to be more favorable to Hillary than to Trump. The RNC establishment may never get over this disruption in their agenda. There are very few of Trumps policies that would benefit them. Crack down on illegal immigration? There goes cheap labor! No more outsourcing? Hurts profits! Tariffs? Quelle horreur!
And she'll get a Constitutiomal Amendmemt if necessary? Over free speech?
How American of her.
(Or was I so disgusted at the lied by that point, was she talking about guns? I thought it was Citizens United)
Anyway, tonight is a good night. She is a decent and able person and I hope she will be able to put forward a middle of the road vision for the country and bring some peace, unity, and stability (without interference from you know who). This is her chance to shine and I hope she does for the country's sake. I think she is more than aware of the significance of this moment and she won't squander it.
lies
Hillary’s First Priority If She Wins? To Shut Up Her Critics
Chickel!
No, for the sake of the country, I wish it didn't have to be this way, propping up an inexperienced, incompetent guy into that office 8 years ago when there were better options. You don't push the electorate to the brink.
Like her husband, for instance?
Bill Clinton (the young governor's) five accomplishments:
1. Welfare "reform"
2. DOMA ===>writing anti-gay bigotry officially into federal legislation
3. Repealing Glass-Steagall and lowering lending standards ===> leading directly to the 2008 crash.
4. Locking up about a million black males for non-violent drug offenses
5. NAFTA
Bonus points:
Impeachment and disbarment
Putting the PLO in charge of the Middle East "peace" agenda!
Not doing all that much about bin Laden
Bombing an aspirin factory when the news of his scandals got out of hand.
Experience is no substitute for judgement.
Name any five major policy errors of Obama's that compare to Bill's.
The state of our country is a direct result of the crash that Bill ushered in, the rush into Iraq, and Bill's total capitulation to the right-wing and entrenchment of retributive austerity into our economic policy. Oh, and his bad trade deals!
Cozying up to Wall Street is the problem, and Hillary has never met a wealthy donor who couldn't buy her out - YET.
Hillary is a liar.
Hillary refuses (and lies about it) to release her Wall street mega-money transcripts.
"I hope she will be able to put forward a middle of the road vision for the country..."
We already know her vision, she doesn't keep it a secret, and it is far from the middle of the road.
Meeeea, you are one dumb chick. People who will vote for Hillary which includes a shit load of women, do not care an iota when she draws attention to the fact she's a woman. She is a woman, she is the first woman nominee of a major party. If she draws attention to it good for her. Now stop being ashamed of your own sex.
"She is a decent and able person"
Jesus Christ.
Man, that was so bad it needs to be repeated:
Anyway, tonight is a good night.
She is a decent and able person and I hope
she will be able to put forward a middle of the road vision
for the country and bring some peace, unity, and stability
(without interference from you know who).
This is her chance to shine and I hope she does for the country's sake.
I think she is more than aware of the significance of this moment and she won't squander it.
From April's link (thanks!):
The specific holding of Citizens United was that the federal government could not constitutionally ban the showing of a movie that was critical of Hillary Clinton. (You didn’t know that? Go ahead, read the decision for yourself.)
That is not common knowledge and cannot be overstated. Hillary herself reiterated the need to overturn that decision as a first priority. This is chilling stuff.
pm317 said...
Anyway, tonight is a good night. She is a decent and able person and I hope she will be able to put forward a middle of the road vision for the country and bring some peace, unity, and stability (without interference from you know who). This is her chance to shine and I hope she does for the country's sake. I think she is more than aware of the significance of this moment and she won't squander it.
Pm, you have taken a bit of flak tonight. I hope you don't feel that your opinion is not respected. Hillary elicits a lot of strong negative opinions, on the right particularly but also on the left. I am neutral but I agree that she is smart and has tremendous technical competence.
HeideCruise said...
Powerful Katy!
7/28/16, 9:01 PM
But not as memorable as Left Shark.
Hillary's proposed amendment won't go anywhere. And I doubt she means it - given the wealth of her own donors. Unlike some people here, I actually know not to trust everything that comes out of that weasel's mouth. Much political success depends on lying, and Hillary knows that and RELIES on it more than most.
Shall we draw straws to see who will fish pm out of the tank?
"she is smart and has tremendous technical competence."
Chris Stevens could not be reached for comment.
"a shit load of women"
huh.
from heighty heighty ho.
Ew.
(without interference from you know who)
No, I don't know who. Are you talking about the supporters of a candidate whom she thanked and expressed appreciation for reminding her of what it's like to have some morals and principles?
Again, the voice of the people matter. If Hillary can't tolerate (let alone work with) those voices, then she doesn't deserve to be president. It's sad that as one of her strong supporters, you reveal how difficult it is for you to deal with dissent - but we already knew that about that crowd.
Wall Street won't be able to buy us off. The government won't be able to shut us out. Deal with us or get lost.
HeideCruise bleated...
Meeeea, you are one dumb chick. People who will vote for Hillary which includes a shit load of women, do not care an iota when she draws attention to the fact she's a woman. She is a woman, she is the first woman nominee of a major party. If she draws attention to it good for her. Now stop being ashamed of your own sex.
You don't see my point of view. That logic alienates men. It loses her as many votes as it gains her. No man ever stood up and said "elect me because I'm a man." It's as terrible a notion as "elect me because I'm black."
"she is smart and has tremendous technical competence."
Wow. Can you provide one example of her "tremendous technical competence"?
Unless you were referring to an extraordinary facility for hoovering bribes.
""she is smart and has tremendous technical competence."
Apparently you didn't catch Comey's presentation.
"Now stop being ashamed of your own sex."
I am plenty ashamed of my own sex when I see mindless bimbos like you, "Yay!!! Vagina!! Vote for the vagina!!! Yay, team!! Go Team!!!"
You reduce yourself to what is in between your legs and berate women who don't reduce themselves to their private parts. Shake your pom poms and cheer for your team!
You are a tw*t - and I hate that word. But that is really all you so-called feminists care about. That is what you have made yourself.
Shame on you,
eric said...
Imagine a drinking game where you drink every time she clears her throat.
Ugh. You'd be passed out already.
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Worse. The CDC would quarantine you to determine if you'd been in contact with some tubercular refugee from a 4th world hellhole.
Meanwhile, Hillary would continue scampering around to infect the rest of us.
hoovering bribes.
Heh.
ARM, appreciate your comment.
she is smart and has tremendous technical competence.
I don't know her from her Senate work. On the national stage, she has experience but she was mostly a failure. We -- but especially Europe -- are still paying a heavy price. Just look at her doppelgaenger Merkel's miserable immigration plan. That is more or less what Hillary proposes to do with Syrian refugees here.
I hope this is the first and last time I'll ever agree with exiledonmainstreet, but can I just say how strange it is to hear people whose identity begins and ends with gender? Is there really nothing else to your identity or who you are than fucking chromosomes? Gender fixation is a real issue for some people, apparently - and an insane one. And the Republicans are right about left-wing fixations on ethnicity and other stuff. Keeping ethnic groups divided between each other with rivalries of which one is "most beloved" by the party is just a way to distract from how badly you've fucked them ALL over on economic issues. Trust me, rich blacks and rich whites don't fight each other. (Although rich men and rich women might). Only when you keep everyone poor can you pit black against white against hispanic and whatever else.
pm317: I'm a woman but I'm not one of your 'shit load'.
pm317 said...
Listen up, dearie: we Americans do NOT take kindly to people who come here to escape their third-world hellholes, and THEN attempt to impose the same tyrannical and benighted SHIT they fled from on us.
IF YOU TOOK AN OATH OF CITIZENSHIP, YOU VOWED TO SUPPORT OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR SYSTEM OF LAWS.
DO DID SUPPORT THAT OATH NOW? BECAUSE IF YOU DIDN'T, I EXPECT AND HOPE TRUMP WILL PUT YOU ON A SLOW BOAT BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM.
Rhythm and Balls said...
Hillary's proposed amendment won't go anywhere.
Oh, I agree with you there. But I think she has a really good chance of winning and appointing (or attempting to appoint) SCOTUS justices with her pH regarding Citizens United. The only thing stopping her would be a newly elected Senate with no particular reason to listen to voters. And many Bernie supporters seem bamboozled into thinking that the decision isn't about criticizing Hillary. I believe it is.
she is smart and has tremendous technical competence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Oh yeah, how about some examples?
Chicklet,
She's not saying elect me because I'm a woman. She has never said elect me because I'm a woman. If she says she is a woman in the context of being the first woman nominee for president from a major party, so damn what? Why do you care, why does it grate on you? I see that Clinton will face the same push back and abuse as a woman that Obama got as the first black president. Change is so hard for some folks. Too bad, we'll move forward with or without you regressives.
@ R&Balls. Keeping ethnic groups divided between each other with rivalries of which one is "most beloved" by the party is just a way to distract from how badly you've fucked them ALL over on economic issues.
Indeed. PayPal guy said it best at the RNC convention.
The left distract us with nonsense ON PURPOSE.
The modern democrat party is the party of lies and distractions. All while they rip us off for the common good.
R&B noted: Gender fixation is a real issue for some people, apparently - and an insane one.
I think it's inculcated, passed from woman to woman and especially mother to daughter. Note Hillary's emphasis (fixation) on her mother. I have family stories (mother and grandmother(s) that beat Hillary's mother's story for pathos and depravity.
Note also the short shrift she gave her father. Yet he was the one who picked Dorothy out and gave her a real chance.
And many Bernie supporters seem bamboozled into thinking that the decision isn't about criticizing Hillary. I believe it is.
Bernie supporters proved that campaign finance regulation (overturning Citizens United) isn't necessary to strengthen liberal or progressive or outsider political movements in general and so if Hillary's primary interest in overturning it is to shield herself from criticism then we'll make sure it's a low priority also.
We live in different times. No one is immune from criticism. Not even the DNC with their stupid server.
Ok, Hillary made a great VP pick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPbUhcvDgCo
He has the presence of mind to realize Bill Clinton has fallen asleep and he needs to block the cameras.
Awesome.
Oh, HeideCruise
Chicklet,
She's not saying elect me because I'm a woman.
She has never said elect me because I'm a woman.
If she says she is a woman in the context of being the first woman nominee for president from a major party, so damn what?
Why do you care, why does it grate on you?
I see that Clinton will face the same push back and abuse as a woman
that Obama got as the first black president.
Change is so hard for some folks.
Too bad, we'll move forward with or without you regressives.
F-
Do men talk about their mothers more or do they talk about their fathers more? Do men identify with their mothers more or do they identify with their fathers more? Seriously what do you want from her? You want her to give more reference to her father? Why?
She's not saying elect me because I'm a woman. She has never said elect me because I'm a woman.
Bullshit! She has played the gender card from day one!
Is that what you learn in "college"?
She's not saying elect me because I'm a woman. She has never said elect me because I'm a woman. If she says she is a woman in the context of being the first woman nominee for president from a major party, so damn what? Why do you care, why does it grate on you?
Because then it sounds indistinguishable from, "Elect me so that we can make history! (Or a historical footnote)"
My female Bernie people hate this. They say that it associates the precedent of a first female president with a lady who is more Nixonian than Washingtonian, and they don't want that. They see it as a bad precedent. What if in 1792 we elected someone who wasn't blessed with such a reputation for honesty and magnanimity as Washington? Think of how badly the country would have suffered. These women are concerned with the message to women that they must be ruthless, calculating, cold-hearted quasi-sociopaths to get anywhere important in life. It's a BAD message.
I see that Clinton will face the same push back and abuse as a woman that Obama got as the first black president. Change is so hard for some folks. Too bad, we'll move forward with or without you regressives.
Take a page from Obama's book and stop making biological characteristics a reason for voting. You didn't choose them, you don't get credit for them. If they should have no bearing on the job done, then minimize your reference to them. Otherwise they will work against you as much as (and MORE than) they work for you. That's just how it goes. It is a folly to over-emphasize immutable characteristics as some sort of strength, because it opens the door to criticizing them also. Focus on what you can do right instead. Character is what matters. Not biology.
First un-indicted felon.
More reference and more deference to her father? Why should she? If she felt closer to her mother what is wrong with that? She IS a woman, her mother was a woman, she identifies more with her female role model. That is NORMAL. Get over yourselves.
"She is a decent and able person"
Jesus Christ.
Let the record show Jesus Christ said Hillary is a decent and able person.
JC also said let he who is w/out sin, cast the first stone!
Praise be Jesus ...
Do men talk about their mothers more or do they talk about their fathers more? Do men identify with their mothers more or do they identify with their fathers more? Seriously what do you want from her? You want her to give more reference to her father? Why?
First off, she doesn't talk much (convincingly, anyway) about her father, and that's because her father was a bit of a prick, no matter what light she tries to put him in. But she does seem to take after him.
Second, I don't remember Bush talking much about either parent, for obvious reasons.
Obama and Clinton, OTOH, went on more about their moms - probably for obvious reasons as well.
In the end, though - it's all just a ruse. More narrative nonsense that may entertain but is really just as inconsequential as the decor in the convention center.
Take a page from Obama's book and stop making biological characteristics a reason for voting. You didn't choose them, you don't get credit for them. If they should have no bearing on the job done, then minimize your reference to them. Otherwise they will work against you as much as (and MORE than) they work for you. That's just how it goes. It is a folly to over-emphasize immutable characteristics as some sort of strength, because it opens the door to criticizing them also. Focus on what you can do right instead. Character is what matters. Not biology.
Good stuff, R&B.
If she felt closer to her mother what is wrong with that? She IS a woman, her mother was a woman, she identifies more with her female role model. That is NORMAL. Get over yourselves.
Lol! Get over yourself. Or tell her to get over herself. It is NOT normal to have a mother who was banished from her own family and treated just as badly by her grandparents.
But that's Hillary's mama's mama's family history. It shapes who she is and explains why she sees wimmin as eternal victims. Because in her family, at least a few were.
But that doesn't make it right, and it doesn't make it right for her to take out her resentments and project them onto America. Some of us actually didn't grow up with these issues that resonate so strongly in her own bones. She acts like her family's problems were America's problems. They aren't.
"she is smart and has tremendous technical competence" Defining competence down, are we? Pls Print Often Confused Hillary didn't pass the DC bar. I would agree, of course, if the relevant technique is shaking down corporations and universities via "speeches" and foreign interests for "foundation"-donation quid-pro-quos. The grifters are masters at that, I admit. Dems love it, of course. It's their business model. Looks like we're in for more of the same.
Thanks, chickelit.
I think ol' '55 has a broken heart tonight.
Please '97.
Carry on
Do your worst.
We're counting on you.
You can do it.
"I was a female Bernie person"
Ew.
"I see that Clinton will face the same push back and abuse as a woman
that Obama got as the first black president. "
Oh, much more, I think.
With her long history of criminality and her election only made possible by the welfare vote, there will be little disincentive for the opposition to ignore her at every opportunity. The one bright spot of a Clinton presidency could be an effective decentralization of government. Irish democracy writ large with many states simply refusing to follow her edicts.
Your female Bernie people? Bullshit. I was a female Bernie person and I refuse to demonize Clinton because Bernie didn't make it. Sanders doesn't demonize her, he will work with her. If you respected what Bernie and the movement was all about, you would follow his lead. I'm a progressive, I'm moving forward, I won't be dragged down by people like Pms who is still bitter that Clinton lost to Obama in 2008, or by Bernie people who can't see the bigger picture.
Nancy Pelosi [Allah bless her!] gave a cute little interview today about 'white men', and their 'guns, god and gays' issues. It is clear that, in addition to playing the woman card, the Dems are pointing their claw-shaped fingers at white men as the ultimate oppressors who must be taken down. Our Founding Fathers be damned!
@eric: LOL! Note that Bill dozed off when she started speaking about Trump.
I stand by my prediction that if Trump wins, Bill will attend the Inauguration and parties but Hillary won't. He wouldn't miss it!
No one said what happened to Hillary's mother was normal. You are going to blame Hillary's mother for her banishment as a child? What the fuck is wrong with you? You seem to have some unusual animus toward Hillary and now her mother too. Did your mama spank you too much when you were a child, or what? Seriously you have a problem with women, that is quite obvious "Balls".
I was a female Bernie person and I refuse to demonize Clinton because Bernie didn't make it.
It is not "demonization" to not trust someone who in 30 years has never turned down an offer for more power in her quest to be politically relevant. It's actually a great, skeptical attribute in any voter in a healthy democracy. If you don't know how power works and the pitfalls of being seduced by it, you are not someone who can be trusted to vote intelligently. Character matters. Honesty matters.
Sanders doesn't demonize her, he will work with her.
Well, he'll do what he can. But he prioritizes what his campaign was about more than he does "working with her." If she offers him a fair deal where they can both advance what they want, fine. He'll agree. This is basic politics 101. And if she betrays him, as pm317 seems to suggest that she should and that she will, then he will and should respond rightly in kind.
If you respected what Bernie and the movement was all about, you would follow his lead.
The whole point of being a liberal is to not have a "leader." He's been a fine spokesman for what we believe in, but if our goals can be better advanced through Jill Stein, then we'll go with her. It's that simple. It's about following the principle and not a person.
I'm a progressive, I'm moving forward, I won't be dragged down by people like Pms who is still bitter than Clinton lost to soba a in 2008, or by Bernie people who can't see the bigger picture.
Well, there's a lot in here. pms seems like a truly miserable and vengeful grudge-holder. I hope that serves her well. It sure wouldn't do much for me.
Being progressive is about more than just a single decision of the moment. Building movements and coalitions and getting political work done is hard work.
And that's all that anyone needs to mean by a "bigger picture." Some people will see Hillary as their chance to get more of what Bernie wanted. Some will go with a third party - or maybe even Trump. It's not your role to talk down to them, but to figure out what they want, whom they trust to work toward it and get better results for it and why, and then to either attempt to persuade them or with them the best in what they want to do. After all, democracies make political decisions personal ones. It's only someone else's business what a person wants to do with their voice or their vote if you can help make it a part of yours. If you can't, then that's that. It's like any other autonomous relationship. You can't force people not to break up with you.
My sister (a Dem) works in administration on a college campus and what she tells me of the student Berniebots, male and female, bear out what R & B says - they passionately hate Hillary, and will write in Bernie or Jill Sanders or the Cookie Monster rather than vote for her. Yeah, it's anecdotal - but still, I think Heide and Shiloh need to pay those bitterly disappointed young Bernie voters a visit - especially the women- so you can tell them how stupid they are for being "ashamed" of their own sex. 'Cause I'm sure that's the big objection college age people have to Hill - OMG, we can't vote for a WOMaN!!
No one said what happened to Hillary's mother was normal. You are going to blame Hillary's mother for her banishment as a child?
Not sure where you read that. Maybe try reading more carefully? Of course, if you just want to accuse me of saying things that help you feel angrier and more impassioned instead, I can't stop you. But I didn't blame Hillary for what happened to her mother. That makes no sense at all.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
I don't know. Other than for the fact that I seem to have aroused the anger of someone who doesn't want to coherently read what I wrote. Hey, I can get angry to if I decided to put different, maddeningly strange words in other people's mouths!
But I try to avoid that. You should, too.
You seem to have some unusual animus toward Hillary and now her mother too.
What would be the "usual" amount of animus? As much hate as the male politicians regularly receive and learn not to take personally?
Did your mama spank you too much when you were a child, or what?
Lol. Wut.
Seriously you have a problem with women, that is quite obvious "Balls".
I don't expect anyone to think that they can manipulate me or play games with me and I don't differentiate on account of gender for that. Some people think they can get what they want through aggression, others manipulation. I don't indulge any of it. These were lessons I had to learn AFTER having grown up and AFTER having been out of the house I grew up in. My parents didn't tolerate bullshit from others and neither do I. We didn't know it in our family. There is nothing worse than people who need to lie to you to get what they want.
Hillary identified with her mother, not the poor abused child her mother once was. Hillary had a good childhood. Her mom was a strong woman, good for her. She admired the woman her mother became depite her mom's sad childhood. How you can twist the love Hillary has for her mother into something sick amd ugly says something about the way you think and it's not complementary, "Balls". You are an odd one
Hillary had a good childhood!
Nonsense. Her dad was a rough and critical bastard who put her mom down all the time.
This is well attested to. And obvious to all of us who did not grow up that way.
Ah, psychoanalysis! The most devious form of manipulation.
Ah, psychoanalysis! The most devious form of manipulation.
Not as devious as the alternative - myth making.
Hillary said that she believes science. There are no scientific alternatives when it comes to understanding the mind and behavior than psychology.
Balls, whatever happened to you at whatever point in your life to turn you into an asshole, well I'm sorry for you, You have an issue with women, that very very clear. I don't know or care why.
I don't know or care why.
Of course you don't. Because you're a liar who just gets off on stupid and baseless accusations.
But you do represent your "leader" well, in that regard! Thanks for demonstrating how similarly you identify with her psychology.
Balls,
You complain that she doesn't give enough deference to her father then you turn around and claim he was a rough and critical bastard (something like you)? Do you have trouble remembering what you said from one minute to the next? Think no one will remember what you said? Change your mind a lot...like a woman! LOL!
HeideCruise said...
No one said what happened to Hillary's mother was normal.
Trump's weakness with many women I believe is that he triggers a primal fear of rejection: He's been married three times. His two divorces remind many gyno-Americans of their own plights or fears or broken families. This is the main reason Trump has problems with women. But that's another story.
But then we have Rodham and I don't mean Hillary. So far as I know -- and most people only know him through Hillary -- he was a stern Republican. Did he fool around on poor Dorothy? Did he divorce poor Dorothy? Did he abandon poor Dorothy? The worst I see is that he beetlebrow beat his kids into thinking Republican. Again, the horror!
I really don't care what you think about Hillary's "man problem" but it's real and you are trying to wave it away. I think she and her closest followers taking out humiliation from Bill on the Nation. That's pathetic!
Here's an example of the kind of female entitlement that "HeideCruise" fears losing once Hillary's subjected to the normal political process.
Can anyone imagine any male candidate going, "Shame on you!" to anyone... let alone to a female candidate? It's ridiculous, stupid, and entitled.
But HeideCruise doesn't see it. Probably because she identifies with that sort of idiotic outburst and what it says about the person who would talk that way in a democratic political process.
As I said, ISSUES.
You complain that she doesn't give enough deference to her father...
I never once said any such thing.
It's the stupidest thing I can ever imagine anyone feeling compelled to say, actually.
Chickelit,
LOL! Trump triggers a primal fear of rejection in women? Nah, it's not that complicated. He's an ignoramus and an asshole. Lots of them around these parts
Chickelit,
LOL! Trump triggers a primal fear of rejection in women? Nah, it's not that complicated. He's an ignoramus and an asshole. Lots of them around these parts
Not convinced!
"I really don't care what you think about Hillary's "man problem" but it's real and you are trying to wave it away. I think she and her closest followers taking out humiliation from Bill on the Nation. That's pathetic."
That is hilarious.
Hillary's followers are essentially the Oprah crowd. It's almost like a cult.
"Hillary's followers are essentially the Oprah crowd. It's almost like a cult."
Really? I never watched Oprah, I was too busy working.
@Heidi: Face it. Hillary has trouble reaching out to men who themselves aren't power-hungry. Her closest confidant is Huma. BTW, why isn't Huma on anyones radar? Don't we have a right to know more about the next Rove? The next ValJar? The next Svengali? They ignore her at out peril.
So Huma is Svengali to Clinton? Hilarious. Damn, you conservatives worry about the nuttiest things. You got Trump loving on Putin and asking him for favors and you worry about Huma.
Ah, yes. Huma Mahmood Abedin, Muslim Svengali.
@chicklit,
Don't we have a right to know more about the next Rove? The next ValJar? The next Svengali? They ignore her at out peril.
Of course, the media ignores Hillary's coterie. They're not likable people. Some of them, like Sid Blumenthal & David Brock, are downright evil. John Podesta isn't much better.
Fawning puff pieces get written about Huma, about how really she's "just a good Muslim girl". Questions are not asked about how such a good Muslim girl could marry such a obviously non-Muslim Jewish Putz like Anthony Weiner. Or, what exactly is mom doing in Saudi Arabia. There for her health, perhaps?
Cheryl Johnson I don't know much about, but her behavior during the email server investigation leads me to believe that, she, like the others, has no use for the truth.
I sampled the speech. She didn't screech in the part I heard, so it will be portrayed as a triumph by the nabobs of Hillarity......The white pantsuit was a nice touch. I think she was aiming for the Mother of Dragons look, but she still comes across as Cersei.......I'll vote for Trump, but if I were betting money I'd put it on Hillary. She'll be a failure as President, but she will fail in a dependable, predictable way. She's like a drizzly day in February. You know things can't get worse.......Trump is more like a summer thunderstorm. Maybe it will pass, and maybe you'll get stuck by lightening.....The undecided will find less to fear in the cold drizzle of Hillary than the sturm und drang of Trump. Or maybe not. I have a tendency to be wrong about Prsidential elections.
You got Trump loving on Putin and asking him for favors and you worry about Huma.
I don't buy this projection you keep making about Trump and Putin.
HeidiCruise wrote Really? I never watched Oprah, I was too busy working.
Ah, that fits with who I think you were. Thanks for the clue!
Huma the Muslim who is married to a Jew, yes she is certainly a Muslim Svengali, LOL!
William, Trump seems more like fog to me, thick fog.
@Heide,
Huma the Muslim who is married to a Jew, yes she is certainly a Muslim Svengali, LOL!
Well, why is the good Muslim girl married to such a shit? And a Jewish one to boot?
Heide, under what's being said here --- we have a press that's so clueless & in the tank for Hillary that reporters write stuff like "Huma's a good Muslim girl" when good Muslim girls do not marry secular NYC Jews.
The facts are right in front of the reporters faces, & yet they cannot bring themselves to say it:
1) Huma is in fact a secular Muslim woman, the sort who marries a secular Jew, & is not a "good Muslim girl".
OR
2) Huma is a "good Muslim girl" who is so very confused as to what the tenets of her faith are that she marries outside of it.
But, in any case, puff pieces are one thing. Contradictory balderdash is another.
Well, I finished listening to a recording of the speech. Boring is all I can say about it. I can see she hopes to play on Trump's turf. While she had a few good zingers written in there, the problem is the delivery, and the deeper problem is that Trump is simply better at it.
She is in a tough spot. Had she never been Obama's SoS, it would be an easier race for her. However, having served in such a high profile position, and unsuccessfully at that (yes, her tenure was a failure despite all attempts to claim otherwise), she simply can't run away from the stagnating economy, and she cannot run away from the dark mood of the electorate. Add to that the fact that Bill Safire was right about her propensity for lying, and that she has been caught out publicly in it the last month or so, and I just don't see her winning unless Trump literally self-destructs. While that isn't impossible, I can't quite fathom what mistake Trump could make that would be significantly worse than what appeared to be mistakes even to me in the past.
The first debate is key for Clinton, but I give it about 50% odds that she finds a pretext to not debate Trump at all. It was relatively safe to debate Sanders because he had made it clear at the very beginning that he wouldn't attack her biggest weakness, but that isn't going to happen this Fall. There is a reason she doesn't do press conferences any longer, and it is why I think there won't be a debate either.
3) or, she is a VERY good Muslim girl who insinuates herself into positions of power for unknown, but possibly nefarious, reasons.
@Yancey,
The first debate is key for Clinton, but I give it about 50% odds that she finds a pretext to not debate Trump at all.
Hillary not debating Trump was brought up as a likely event by Bill O'Reilly over a month ago. I'm not sure even he believed it could happen.
If she refuses to debate Trump, she loses. She's a woman, but she's got to show she's as tough as the guys. Word will go out: "If she can't face Trump, how will she face America's enemies, who are a lot nastier than Trump?".
@mockturtle,
or, she is a VERY good Muslim girl who insinuates herself into positions of power for unknown, but possibly nefarious, reasons.
Oh, God! Having to have sex with Weiner moves the poor girl beyond any notion of taqiyah into full fledged martyrdom in my book.
Hillary will absolutely debate Trump. More likely it will be Trump who chickens out, just like he did with the last debate in the primary. Hillary will do very well in a debate with Trump. She'll come off as very informed, he will get flustered and say something very dumb.
Sanders was much tougher to debate for Hillary because Sanders is a smart and informed man. Trump is not.
YoungHegelian (love that moniker!),
She studiously avoids unscripted Q and As. Unless she can be assured by the moderators of the debates that questions about her lies over the server won't be asked, she isn't going to want to answer questions that basically have no honest answer that can exonerate her (Comey firmly closed that door in his statement). I don't think the moderators have been chosen yet, but Trump isn't going to allow her to pick the moderators. There is where I think she will try to find the pretext to avoid them altogether- by claiming Trump won't approve perfectly unbiased moderators like, for example, Candy Crowley.
Personally, if I were Trump, I would offer a format with a moderator chosen by both campaigns with equal time and no bars on what can be asked. Is honest, straightforward, and would make for the most lively contest. I don't think Trump fears anyone she could select, while she would fear someone who won't be afraid to do what Sanders never did
Heide,
You are fool if you think Sanders is smarter and more informed than Trump. Every other candidate in the Republican primary thought the same damned thing, and where did they end up? Even worse for your preferred candidate is the expectation that fools like you are setting for Clinton. I am old enough to remember Democrats claiming the same thing about Carter vs Reagan, and to this day I acknowledge that Carter beat Reagan in that first debate, but it didn't matter because Reagan far exceeded expectations that were set by Carter's supporters in the media. Clinton and her supporters are likely to fall into the same trap. It seems a common mental deficiency in progressives- they think they are smarter than their political opposites. Gore learned this the hard way in debates he won in 2000. However, I think based on some of your comments, you probably are too young to even remember those.
Blogger William said...
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I'll vote for Trump, but if I were betting money I'd put it on Hillary. She'll be a failure as President, but she will fail in a dependable, predictable way.
I don't think so, William. I don't think that Hillary understands or performs appropriately in a given situation. When Bengazi happened she should have sent in the marines, or bombed the place to the smithereens. Instead she did . . . nothing. I imagine she sent text messages to Bill that night, and for one reason or another, he did not respond. So she dithered, afraid of making a mistake.
"Sanders was much tougher to debate for Hillary because Sanders is a smart and informed man."
Feel pity for HeidiCruz, who believes that Sanders wanted to beat Hillary in a debate.
If Sanders wanted to be president, he would be leading a third party challenge. So sad for Bernie to realize, at 75 years of age, that he iss as much a part of the system as Newt Gingrich.
Did any childhood/college friends or family members (not Chelsea or Bill), speak about her at this convention?
I always feel like a crappy woman, because I don't get the "girl power" or "be strong" type sentiments.
I appreciate the right to vote and having my own credit, and being to choose my own interests of studies.
But I'm also appreciative for running water in the house and refrigeration. I like my kitchen, too.
That's it. I'm not voting for Hillary.
Wow, these trolls are all in on the Putin/Trump thing. Since only the Clinton true believers believe it, it would seem like they are worried about their own.
All I've heard is tax businesses that lay off workers.
For women, nothing has consequences.
If you can't fire, you won't hire, being an obvious consequence.
http://ntknetwork.com/bill-clinton-falls-asleep-during-hillary-clintons-convention-speech/
Sometimes I feel so relaxed after getting a blow job from one of the interns I feel like that.
Blogger AprilApple said...
Hillary is a liar.
All democrats are liars.
case in point." HeideCruise said...
Chicklet,
She's not saying elect me because I'm a woman. She has never said elect me because I'm a woman."
Lets face it. PolPot could run as a democrat and win.
From the clips I saw this morning...
1. Chelsea can't walk in high heels
2. Chillary's blouse was askew and leaned way left...
Sorry I can't listen to the lies...
Her speech was painful and exhausting to watch last night. Angry Woman Shouting through most of it, with lots of hectoring and scolding. I've heard plenty of women who are good public speakers. HRC is not one of them. I expect she will be the next president. It's going to be a long four years.
All chess matches are 11-dimensional, if string theory is right.
Is Donald Tump losing it? How will he hold up under the daily onslaught until Novemeber?
"Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump said Thursday afternoon he wanted to “hit” some of the Democratic National Convention speakers “so hard” while watching them last night, including a “little guy…so hard his head would spin.”
“You know what I wanted to. I wanted to hit a couple of those speakers so hard,” Trump said. “I would have hit them. No, no. I was going to hit them, I was all set and then I got a call from a highly respected governor.”
Trump didn’t immediately clarify what he meant, but he said he was made particularly upset by an unspecified person he called a “little guy.”
“I was gonna hit one guy in particular, a very little guy,” he said. “I was gonna hit this guy so hard his head would spin and he wouldn’t know what the hell happened.”"
Trump said that he had never spoken to Putin, what a liar.
"But those comments contradict what he said in 2014, when he spoke at an event at the National Press Club in Washington, DC. During this appearance, he discussed US-Russian relations and claimed that he had talked to Putin during a recent visit to Moscow, where Trump held his Miss Universe pageant. Here's what Trump told the Press Club audience:
Russia does not respect our country any longer. They see we've been greatly weakened, both militarily and otherwise, and he certainly does not respect President Obama. So what I would do—as an example, I own Miss Universe, I was in Russia, I was in Moscow recently and I spoke, indirectly and directly, with President Putin, who could not have been nicer, and we had a tremendous success. The show was live from Moscow and we had tremendous success there and it was amazing, but to do well, you have to get the other side to respect you, and he does not respect our president, which is very sad.""
Unknown has convinced me to vote for Donald Trump.
Hillary is a 1-percenter in sheep's clothing. She made $153 million the past decade, mostly giving speeches, not building anything or creating jobs.
Bernie supporters know this. College grads, saddled with debt, working at Starbucks, feel this.
Hillary is just a phony, plain and simple. The claim that she "fights" for women and children and "smashes" glass ceilings is just a narrative, designed to fool gullible voters.
Yes, culturally she is liberal, I have to concede that. If you are emotionally attached to the pro-choice, gay-marriage, affirmative-action policy positions, Hillary's mostly on board. But I would argue those cultural battles have largely been won. The liberals should declare victory and go home.
Economic issues are the meat and potatoes of this election. How to find a job? How to pay off school debt? How to support a family? Those are the key battles facing most earnest people this election.
If you add the anxiety over BLM elements protesting and shooting cops, the anxiety over the massive influx of illegal immigrants, the anxiety over Radical Muslim terrorism, and the fact that the Left enables these 3 destabilizing forces, you can see how large swath of voters have migrated towards Trump.
Renee said...I always feel like a crappy woman, because I don't get the "girl power" or "be strong" type sentiments.
I appreciate the right to vote and having my own credit, and being to choose my own interests of studies.
But I'm also appreciative for running water in the house and refrigeration. I like my kitchen, too.
You shouldn't feel crappy, Renee: you sound like a smart, independent woman to me.
(Not that you'd need a man's validation to have self-respect...darn, it's difficult to say anything these days!).
Susan said...
"Why are some women ashamed of saying they are women."
What kind of stupidity is that? I've never had to go around saying I was a woman because it's pretty darned obvious.
Honestly? With some of those democrat women it's often hard to tell. And even they won't admit it.
400... crawls back under rock.
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