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Politico has what's purported to be Trump's speech, here. But I'm not interested in reading it in advance. It's all in the delivery, no?
UPDATE: Why is the speech so long? To displace the commentators?
AND: You know who gave a famously long speech? Bill Clinton.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 385 of 385The Donald is not a mellifluous speaker like Reagan.
Reagan was an actor, after all...
The Democratic Party end state for the US, as intended, is a dozen San Franciscos and a thousand Stocktons.
"You can say he doesn't mean to go through with it, but you have no idea."
My point was that no one goes through with it. It's the standard fodder of the Democrat luftmensch. Since it means nothing, why not throw it out there and see if you can snare some of their chumps?
He really can't go on with this "bad trade agreement" litany versus Hillary, when Pence voted for all of them. Pence voted for more of them than Hillary did.
Pence supported NAFTA?
Trump just said he will never let a company shut down or eliminate American jobs if they are replaced with workers overseas.
I'm sure our economics geniuses in this thread who are voting for Trump can explain this.
Why yes he did.
Release your taxes.
This speech doesn't play to Trump's strengths. He is a funny, likable guy who has been painted as a demagogue. In this speech he does in fact resemble a demagogue. Sometimes people don't understand their own strengths, and weaknesses. Set the real Donald Trump free!
This speech is a disaster. They make jokes about State of the Union addresses that go on too long. This is so much worse.
Again, not watching. Should I view the "highlights" later, or call it a day?
Got the Ivanka Gif from Andrew Sullivan's blog. He says Massive Lies And Distortions, Crammed With Incoherence.
Pence started in Comgress with in January 2001. NAFTA, the WTO, and China admission to WTO were all under Clinton.
Bizarre, this rapid skipping back and forth between issues. Absolutely no rhyme or reason to this scrambling overly long speech. Pence supported the TPP, BTW?
I don't know about you folks, but I am hearing a great speech, very well delivered.
Pence is running for President? Or will this be a reprise of the Dick Cheney Evil Puppetmaster meme?
Trump's not good on the TelePrompter like Obama.
Unknown: Pence wasn't in Congress yet, for the NAFTA vote. He voted for CAFTA (extending NAFTA) when he had the chance. And voted for free trade agreements throughout Asia. And, Pence is on record supporting the TPP.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/14/so-mike-pence-has-been-a-huge-supporter-of-the-thing-donald-trump-says-is-terrible-for-america/
Who the hell wrote this speech? He needs to be fired.
We have a back to back eight year comparison: compare what W started w/ and what he left to what BHO started w/ and what he left. Tell me how R policies worked better.
Tell me about it. But you're preaching to the wrong crowd here on that one. To Republicans, facts and evidence are a betrayal of their party's cause. It's all about believing the right things, and there is no truer test to belief in the Republican cause than dismissing the facts. Facts and evidence are just not the right fit for their party. They will change the facts to fit their beliefs, and are convinced that you should, too.
Getting' a little long.
Trump is fileting Clinton, Obama and the lefty worldview.
"Again, not watching. Should I view the "highlights" later, or call it a day?"
I can summarize: I turns out that Trump will fix the entire world and everyone will get everything they want. He's got a solid, detailed thousand point plan, one point for each promise.
I'm sure our economics geniuses in this thread who are voting for Trump can explain this.
Lol.
Here goes: The FACTS are wrong! Our beliefs are what is right! They are all that matter!
Focus on the BELIEFS! Believing the right things trumps all observation any day!
Uh, Mr. President you don't get to appoint people to the federal bench. You only get to nominate.
"Our beloved Justice Scalia":
http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/13/donald-trump-hits-scalia-over-affirmative-action-remarks-video/
No you don't deserve it.
"Crooked Hillary:
BFF"
Yea, posted that pic here 3/4 months ago.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer!
Leave the gun, take the cannoli ...
Chuck,
The president nominates and, with the consent of the Senate, appoints.
Calling the government implementing deregulation, is not what most folks think of when they're talking about government involvement. This is more accurately described as un-government caused.
I am so weary of this completely incorrect assessment of what happened.
First of all - what got "deregulated"? Name something you were allowed to do, financially, during the Bush administration, that you couldn't do during the Clinton administration. That aside - how was the mortgage industry "deregulated"? Are you saying there was no government involvement in the mortgage industry? Every bank that lent money for mortgages was pushed into it by the CRA and other government edicts. Go ahead, loan money to your heart's content, don't worry if people welch, we at the Fed will back it up.
Well, they did welch, and the government then turned the blame SQUARELY on the banks for making loans they shouldn't have. Well, they wouldn't have if the government hadn't said they'd back them.
You believe in an alternate history, one where Spock has a beard. In our universe, everything that happened in 2008 was directly related to behaviors that the government not only condoned, but agitated banks to follow.
Yes, but you don't pay those electricians and carpenters, do you?
If the President nominates, and the Senate consents to the nomination, the president still must appoint the confirmed nominee. The president can change his mind after the Senate confirms the nomination and decide not to appoint the nominee.
The only constant over the last 80 years or so is the government has gotten more involved in the economy and as it has it has screwed more things up.
The poverty and regular depressions and financial calamities of the previous 150 years were clearly superior.
"Ït turns out that Trump will fix the entire world and everyone will get everything they want."
Bernie Sanders?
So basically you're sayin' Trump is a San Francisco community organizing Democrat.
Again, he has my vote ...
Talking about himself in the third party again, lol.
Worse only the top 10% have seen any earnings growth. Median real wages are falling and mostly for the middle class which is purposely being destroyed.
This is by design. The design of the billionaires and financial industry lobbyists who pay for the lawmaker's campaigns.
Is he still talking?
>Unknown said...
No continuity, he must've been off the teleprompter for a bit there.<
are you paid by the word or hour? how do i apply for your "job"?
I Callahan,
Read my link up thread. It goes through the actual numbers to compare the impacts of public re private bad loans.
You are repeating lies that can be proven wrong by looking at the data.
The banking deregulation occurred mostly during Reagan and WJC, as I noted up-thread.
But, W did put a deregulator in charge of OTS. This is the regulatory that was looser such that Country Wide and WaMu adjusted so they could be overseen by this more deregulated agency. How'd that work out?
Trump is a narcissist. Sucking out all the oxygen in the room is what he does best. You wouldn't want him to NOT be the only person to breathe now, would you?
" Talking about himself in the third party again, lol."
Winner! That's what his whole campaign has been about, frustrating as it may be for "lifelong Republicans".
Blogger Chuck said...
I dunno, eric. I fear that Hillary won't protect the LGBTQ community, from Radical Islamic Terrorism, the way that President Trump will.
I couldn't make this stuff up.
Just take responsibility for her election is all.
I'll take responsibility for a Trump presidency, you take responsibility for a Hillary presidency.
An overwhelming speech of Donald Trump like proportions.
>The poverty and regular depressions and financial calamities of the previous 150 years were clearly superior<
1921 depression was over pretty quick: harding/coolidge 2016!!1!!
"Why is the speech so long? To displace the commentators?"
He had a lot to say and decided to say it all tonight. Probably not the best decision. But despite the length he commanded the situation. He didn't back off or weasel word. He tore into Hillary very effectively. But it was too long.
I saw a lot of complaints from liberal Democrats about how long and how loud the speech was.
Do they realize they can turn the channel?
Ritmo, always admired how you could totally ignore me. Not much action in this The crowning of the donald thread so you're left replying to me.
You and J E were making astute points fast and furious last night. My compliments!
This seems appropriate: From IMDb, describing the 2012 movie, 'UNKNOWN': A man awakens from a coma, only to discover that someone has taken on his identity and that no one, (not even his wife), believes him.
This is so fabulous in its terribleness.
What a weird song to set the tone of your campaign: All Right Now by the Free.
Basically all about shacking up with a questionable one-nighter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2HuqqGASvw
What was that?
I saw a lot of complaints from liberal Democrats about how long and how loud the speech was.
Don't they remember Bill Clinton's?
They're playing "you can't always get what you want."
Let it Bleed.
Demonstrations--or at least this one--lack the frenzy we have seen in the past.
I blame cellphones. Everyone is so busy recording their own videos that they forget to cheer.
But if you try sometime, you just might find, you get what you need.
He was rallying the base tonight. That's clear.
I think the other Trump will be more on display in the debates.
Oh, there's action. Plenty of action.
Was it somebody in this thread who posted/linked this? I finally opened it.
Trump is disgusting.
I went down to the demonstration to get my fair share of abuse.
And as curious as "All Right Now" by the Free is, how weirdly appropriate is "You Can't Always Get What You Want" by the Stones.
These times me remind me a bit of that era. "Street Fightin' Man." Scary. Society hanging on by a thread.
The talker guy says "the american people are going to get what they deserve... blah blah blah"
While they play "you can't always get what you want."
Sounds and colors. Noise and lights. Beasts at the art museum.
What's to eat?
R&B,
Traditionalguy set me up to mention that. But, it felt icky to cut and paste it. Gross.
"The Donald did it. He is reaching the people who once dismissed him as a Bombastic and Vulgar Narcissist."
Was this when he reached for his daughters ass after she did her intro? It's creepy how her hips pull back as he grabs.
7/21/16, 9:56 PM
Trump's theme song.
Blogger Rhythm and Balls said...
Oh, there's action. Plenty of action.
Was it somebody in this thread who posted/linked this? I finally opened it.
Trump is disgusting.
He's a man. A manly man. A man's man. With long, beautiful fingers. Long fingers to caress the tush of his daughter. Who he might date, if she wasn't his daughter, married to one of those little guys wearing a yarmulke.
No Days of Rage for the RNC. Less energy on the streets than the TSA line at McCarran after a three day rave. Maybe something can be organized for Phillie. Power to the People, Right On!
"how weirdly appropriate is "You Can't Always Get What You Want" by the Stones."
One last slap at the NeverTrumpers?
Was this when he reached for his daughters ass after she did her intro? It's creepy how her hips pull back as he grabs.
I missed that one, Jelly. It's creepy that you make that sort of thing up. Were you wankin' it watching Ivanka?
It's creepy that you make that sort of thing up.
He didn't make it up. I saw the exact same thing. Are you blind?
Would you put your hands on and touch your own daughter in that way? Care to go on the record with your answer?
Chuck, I don't usually respond to your flatulent remarks but I believe you must be projecting about Trump and his daughter. Do you molest your daughter? Is that why you seem obsessed by the idea? At least Laslo's perverts are honest ones.
chick,
The video shows up twice in this thread.
This is a guy who said that if circumstances were different he'd consider dating his own daughter.
No one has a defense of that. No one. There's none that exists.
He's mentally unhinged.
Jelly said ass. I don't think asses go 360 degrees, do they?
"Would you put your hands on and touch your own daughter in that way?"
It's her reaction that's really cringe worthy. When his hand goes down she squirms away.
I saw that Vine about 90 seconds ago for the first time. I sure as hell didn't create it.
I think approximately 126% of likely voters will look at that, and say, "Uh, that is really weird."
The anti-gay cake bakery-supporting religious fanatics of the right exist of a piece with the look-the-other-way-at-Trump's-incestous-remarks crowd.
This election year is surreal in more ways than one. I guess you must hate illegals that much to look away in that many different directions.
Trump is your Bill Clinton, sexually speaking.
Jelly said ass. I don't think asses go 360 degrees, do they?
Putting your hands on your daughters hips and/or outer thighs while embracing her is all wrong.
@R&B: So, you were masturbating to Ivanka too? I was watching with my wife and daughter.
Weird but not surprising that the resident liberals spin fantasies of molestation. It's all they have left. Well, that and Hillary Clinton.
The lefty trolls are really, really worried. They are getting SO desperate.
What's he going to do next? Nibble on her earlobes?
The guy is a total fruitcake. Something is wrong with him.
Something really, really wrong. Is wrong. With him.
I mean, it's obvious that you two were turned on somehow. I missed the whole innuendo.
What did Megyn say about it?
"Putting your hands on your daughters hips and/or outer thighs while embracing her is all wrong."
She recoils immediately.
I don't know what Megyn said because I watched on CSpan. Did she plant that idea?
@R&B: So, you were masturbating to Ivanka too? I was watching with my wife and daughter.
It may have been quicker in real-time. But the footage is undeniable.
I think it's time to admit that not picking up on social cues might run in the chicken little family.
Show that clip to twenty random people tomorrow and let me know how many insist that there's nothing unseemly about it.
She recoils immediately.
Obviously. CL missed that part, too.
Why did Ivanka pick up on the social cues that you missed and insist never happened, CL?
I just looked at the video again. I hadn't notice that he checks out her tits.
Trump is trying to reach beyond his immediate supporters without abandoning his base. He's going through a list of problems which Democrats say don't exist in order to build a coalition based on a widespread reform which the current American situation requires rather than a coalition based on reforms solely relating to certain historic grievances connected with race and gender. Concentrating on certain historic problems all the time has resulted in ignoring other, newer problems which have become quite serious. These newer problems - e.g. loss of manufacturing jobs since 1997, inner city children trapped in failing schools, declining national security - affect all races and solutions will improve all lives.
Many of these problems are summed up as "globalization" or perhaps one should say "laissez faire globalization" which Trump is promising to oppose. Anyhow that's how I see Trump's speech. The media reaction is meaningless because it will mostly reflect ugly trivial minds projecting themselves onto Trump. The reaction of the country will take while to emerge.
Given what he's already said about dating her, what he did was a Freudian slip. Of the hands.
Of his little, tiny, short-fingered hands.
The same hands that are totally NOT bigger than his penis.
I'm just gonna leave this here, for you to look at later:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/32/39/16/3239164397a9b34c07a0671f79dc0be8.jpg
"Trump is trying to reach beyond his immediate supporters without abandoning his base."
Will you folks stop talking about what Trump is reaching for. After the ass grab, today's not the day.
I just looked at the video again. I hadn't notice that he checks out her tits.
Well, the narcissist love of oneself does extend to the sexual and she is about 50% him, genetically speaking.
Something wrong with the guy. Clear as day.
He later tried to position her own hands for a reach-around.
Show that clip to twenty random people tomorrow and let me know how many insist that there's nothing unseemly about it.
It may well be the most talked about aspect of his speech tomorrow. It could be bigger that "NIG" on jammies. We shall see.
Me? I'll wait for the annalysis.
Show that clip to twenty random people tomorrow and let me know how many insist that there's nothing unseemly about it.
And make sure that at least ten of them are women.
PBandJ_LeDouanier said...I just looked at the video again. I hadn't notice that he checks out her tits.
Are you hard yet?
"They are getting SO desperate."
Indeed, just like "we" were getting desperate (4) years ago and (8) years ago w/mama grizzly.
You bet'cha!
Déjà vu all over again ...
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hmm, why would anyone be desperate re: a presidential election? ok, Achilles has already said he'll be in tears if Hillary wins. Hopefully he has someone to console him.
Me? I'll wait for the annalysis.
As long as you get it from more sources than just the sex harassment enablers of FOX News then I'm confident there won't be much disagreement.
@PJ&Jelly: Sorry, I assumed you were straight. My bad.
Mostly, you people are disgusting.
Are you hard yet?
Not appropriate, dude. Get a grip.
Incest is only cool when it's clearly as faked as it is in pornography and involving storylines where the relationship is between STEP-parents, etc.
Duh.
Trump
On the stump
For so long
Where's my bong
I liked what he said about negotiating trade deals with individual nations rather than signing blanket trade agreements. Actually, I like what he said about everything.
Roy Lofquist said...Mostly, you people are disgusting.
You're right. I'm kind of embarrassed that I engaged those two.
shiloh said...
"hmm, why would anyone be desperate re: a presidential election? ok, Achilles has already said he'll be in tears if Hillary wins. Hopefully he has someone to console him."
I would be emotional. But I wouldn't cry. That has never been my reaction to strong emotion. I actually get very quiet.
I had a friend whose wife cheated on him during deployment. He thanked her for letting know how she felt and kicked her out of the house and had a girlfriend within the month. If the US decides to elect Hillary knowing she is a total piece of shit who will take our freedoms as soon as humanly possible I will be just as blithe. People have no idea how much tax free employment is out there right now.
Achilles,
I like the cut of your jib. Irish democracy will bring things to a halt quickly. Let those who support Hillary join the military
"Mostly, you people are disgusting."
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I yield back the balance of my time.
Rhythm and Balls said...
Are you hard yet?
"Not appropriate, dude. Get a grip.
Incest is only cool when it's clearly as faked as it is in pornography and involving storylines where the relationship is between STEP-parents, etc.
Duh."
Trump is a bit crude in bragging about how hot his daughter is.
It is cute you are suddenly concerned about creepiness though. Didn't Bernie write a nice rape fantasy paper? Hillary's husband is a rapist. Joe Biden is the king of creepy public groping. Then you have the Wiener.
That vine was not up to standards normally held by dick pic tweeting democrats. Seems desperate.
Achllles,
Obama has been President for 7 1/12 years. What freedoms has he taken away from you?
Blogger shiloh said...
Trump's theme song.
7/21/16, 10:49 PM
Hillary's got 3, count'em, 3 Stones theme songs: Sympathy for the Devil, Bitch and Turd on the Run all suit her admirably. Think we'll hear them next week?
Unknown said...Obama has been President for 7 1/12 years. What freedoms has he take away from you?
Freedoms of speech with certain friends and relatives: we cannot discuss politics and need "safe words" to deflect discussions.
Although Obama didn't start it, I have noticed curtailments of my 2nd amendment rights in CA compared to what I enjoyed as a boy in WI. Obama and Hillary are fully on board with these infringements.
Regulations aren't generic, PB&J. An increase in the number of regulations does not mean "better" regulation, any more than a decrease in regulations means "worse" regulation. Regulations are a compromise, usually between growth and risk.
That is entirely fact based and logical.
"Regulation" is not a magic word; the federal government was heavily regulating the mortgage market both before and after the crash. Money seeks growth, so it tries to go into high growth areas of the economy. If banks can shift the risk onto the government while it reaps the rewards, money will go into that sector.
LOL, all the lefty gamma males can't stop thinking about the Trump women. They're going to really give their blowup dolls a work out tonight.
Don't worry, gammas - you'll have noted Dem hottie Lena Dunham to jack off to next week!
All of the CNN people look like they have PTSD -- Post Trump Speech Despair.
mccullough said...
Achilles,
"I like the cut of your jib. Irish democracy will bring things to a halt quickly. Let those who support Hillary join the military"
The NCO corp runs the military, not the officers. The army at least will never support the democrats if they call the army in against the population. The South is much over represented for one thing. Vets and active are overwhelmingly to the libertarian right of the spectrum.
"I would be emotional. But I wouldn't cry. That has never been my reaction to strong emotion. I actually get very quiet."
ok, fine. Not sure how your USN anecdote is connected to Hillary other than you hate her intensely!
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Have many depressing navy tales ~ you return home from an 8 mo. cruise and your wife is 4 mos. pregnant.
When will "welch" get the same opprobrium as "retard" or "Gyp"?
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Mostly, you people are disgusting.
7/21/16, 11:12 PM
Go away, then.
Who is supposedly blocking these comments Jonny? I don't see any comments being blocked. Anyone know what he's talking about?
Fiftyville: All of the CNN people look like they have PTSD -- Post Trump Speech Despair.
:-D
I see that the revolving door is going between Elizabeth Warren's CFPB and the finance industry. The CFPB is budgeted by treasury, not congress, it has minimal oversight by the people's representatives. The financial houses must be drooling at the thought of what they can do by controlling its actions. Money loaned to poor borrowers (e.g. high risk) for social and political reasons, with the government picking up the tab when they default. It's a new frontier for creative and ambitious bankers.
Unknown said...
"Achllles,
Obama has been President for 7 1/12 years. What freedoms has he taken away from you?"
I don't get any subsidies to buy Health care. I have 3 health care options available to me.
The BATF recently changed the requirements for Tax Stamp purchases and made it an absolute pain in the ass to buy some of my favorite toys. Not to mention the changes they made that drove ammunition prices through the roof.
Over the last 3 years the 3 businesses I am part of have been hammered by a litany of ridiculous regulations and payroll taxes. Banks now place absurd holds on checks and do not do SBL's thanks to Dodd Frank. The IRS is a nightmare in ways I cannot discuss because there are pending issues. Over half of our management overhead easily goes to dealing with government compliance.
Ritmo Re-Animated
Oh, my God what the hell is this?
Achilles,
Those are "freedoms"?
Did someone put the charger on Ritmo's nuts?
Or did he do another couple of long lines?
OK "Unknown Profile not found", no use hanging around here. Just fake your timecard and be back in time for Crooked Hilliary's coronation.
Trolling, trolling, over the bounding main.
They all must be over at Lem's yucking it up.
If Trump is accused of sexually harassing Ivanka will he have to resign and Pence takes his place?
A Trump Rally is always so exciting.
Emphasis on the "Yuck".
Hot Damn! lucky us.
Where's all the Blowy McBlowhards?
Too bad, I missed the limousine of lefties.
Sniff, we miss you. You bring dark to our lives, and it's so much fun kicking you outside, into the light.
I liked Trump's speech on the balance. I don't have the attention span to sit and watch a TV so I was in and out but I read it in about 5 minutes.
The only thing I will wonder about is how many people saw it. For most people they will not recognize the Trump they saw vs. the Trump that the media feeds them. If he gets more unmitigated air time like that without media filters he will win easily.
Yeah, I missed most of it. My wife came home and gave me shit about watering the indoor plants.
FOR ABOUT AN HOUR.
But what would I do without her?
Not that any of the trolls would know anything about married life.
Unknown said...
"Achilles,
Those are "freedoms"?"
Yes. Are you stupid? Do you have a brain?
The government took away choices and my time with regulations and new health care laws. Even a stupid douche like you should be able to figure that out.
Except divorce court.
shiloh said...
"ok, fine. Not sure how your USN anecdote is connected to Hillary other than you hate her intensely!"
That was a pretty easy one to figure out. You must be dumb.
Achilles, these are freedoms.
"The First Amendment is perhaps the most important part of the Bill of Rights. It protects five of the most basic liberties. They are freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom to petition the government to right wrongs."
Now go back to civics class.
I'll bet they're all bitching about how bad the cops in Cleveland must be. After all, they were ready to process 2000 protestors per day 24/7. Wussie protestors. Fascist Cops. If Ritmo were there, there'd be blood and piss all over the place.
Hi, Sugartits!
You paid trolls are sure hard to figure out.
One day you act like Kindergarten Kids, and another day you ignore me.
I can't wait for Sugartits to tell me next week how the first amendment doesn't apply under certain circumstances.
Ah well, rest well my pretties, tomorrow is dump day. nothing for you to do. except ignore the news.
Shiloh needs to be strapped to a Gurney and have a fast drip of lorazepam infused into his hot little vein.
Jon Ericson said...Ah well, rest well my pretties, tomorrow is dump day. nothing for you to do. except ignore the news.
Ritmo reanimated and PB&J are both over at Andrew Sullivan's place, rewatching that Ivanka loop and plotting how to spin "gropegate" tomorrow.
They're all plum tuckered out.
chicklit, I'll bet you are right!
Is Sullivan still alive?
Gropegate is going to be bigger than Melania's plagiarism. A real "Game Change"
Jon Ericson said...Is Sullivan still alive?
Physically, yes. But he must be an emotional wreck these days.
Jon Ericson said...LOL!
It's not funny. You saw the emotion they invested in it -- fueled by 'roids -- it's going to be gay rage on steroids. Wait for it.
chick,
I think we're at the point where even most cons don't think name calling folks as gay does anything other than make the name caller look stupid.
Even you pal Sancho Jon doesn't seem to share your lameness in this regard. Or is he Don and you're Sancho? Who are the goat herders?
Equal pay for equal work is a conservative principle. The liberal principle is equal pay for equivalent work, and government must define equivalent. Not the same thing at all. Under liberal principles, trash collectors would earn less then social workers because social workers must have a degree and trash collectors don't. Under the current system, social workers are a dime a dozen, and paid accordingly. What motivates a trash collector to get up early in the morning in all kinds of weather to collect other people's garbage is the paycheck. It's large enough to draw in people willing to do the job, but apparently not large enough to gat a social worker to apply for the job instead of bitching that a trash collector makes more then they do.
Businessmen have a different wage principle in play. Pay the least amount they can to get someone to do the work that needs to get done for the company to thrive.
"but apparently not large enough to gat a social worker to apply for the job instead of bitching that a trash collector makes more then they do.
I think the bigger problem is that trash collectors can't do their jobs in Birkenstocks. Social worker types love their Birks. Not to be confused with the Mrs. Trump de jour types who love their Birkins.
Unknown said...
Achilles, these are freedoms.
"The First Amendment is perhaps the most important part of the Bill of Rights. It protects five of the most basic liberties. They are freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom to petition the government to right wrongs."
Got it. You don't understand what freedom is. You are an idiot.
Peanut Butter and Jelly, Talk to Milo.
Jerkoff.
Trump just guaranteed Hillary will win by 20 points. Just a vile, hateful man.
GOP is the party of ignorance, Christian fundamentalism, war on women, war on minorities, war on LGBTQ, anti-evolution, climate change deniers, war-mongers, xenophobes, war on poor people. Basically everything terrible.
Democrats are the party of hope and the future.
Hillary will romp by 20 points. Dems will take back Congress.
GOP is finished.
Book it.
Democrats are the party of hope and the future.
Democrats are the party of slavery, tyranny, and socialism. Socialists killed tens of millions of people between 1920 and 1990.
You can book that.
Unknown said...
Achilles, these are freedoms.
"The First Amendment is perhaps the most important part of the Bill of Rights. It protects five of the most basic liberties. They are freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom to petition the government to right wrongs."
Don't forget the 2nd. Without which the others aren't worth shit.
FULL SPEECH: Donald Trump - Republican National Convention
http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2016/07/full-speech-donald-trump-republican.html
Hmm, Trump doesn't seem to have a problem with Erdogan's purge of all opposition. Yeah, I think I'm not voting for anybody for President.
What convention is this?
Why is an old New York liberal the Republican nominee for President?
Remember, the anti-establishment Trump supporters are citing McConnell's complaints about Cruz. Because they are so anti-establishment.
The unemployment numbers are great for folks w/ college degrees.
Not by any known economic stat.
There is in fact a substantial recovery.
Explains why interest rates are still at around 0. Because this is a "substantial recovery".
Democrats are the party of hope and the future.
Democrats haven't had a new idea in twenty years. And sitting on my bookshelf here in my home office is a book titled Hope is not a Strategy. It's the one by Ted Gee, subtitled "Simple Solutions for Doing Business in The 21st Century." A few years later John Mariotti and D.M. Lukas published another book titled Hope is not a Strategy " ... which uses the many mistakes and failures of Barack Obama’s first term as illustrative examples for leadership lessons to be learned. The mistakes and failures during Obama’s presidency are nearly all traceable to his fundamental leadership and experience shortcomings."
I thought it was a good speech. No he doesn't have telepolish of O but you know he could probably talk just as long off the cuff. The prompter use was to keep him from winging it, which would have been fine for the room but not for the national audience, many of whom this would be the first time to listen to Trump.
I liked his LGBTQXYZ... talk. Really, most of us really don't care about other people's lifestyles. He, by that section, put BS to party platform nonsense. The Repub party should ditch the whole platform process because their platform is reviewed with a fine tooth comb for anything the MSM can use to whack them while overt nonsense in the Demo platform is ignored.
I am glad that he spoke of doing something to help the minority communities to improve their safety and their education prospects. This addresses the real racism problem of conservative and libertarians - the sin of omission. Faced with a system set to punish anyone who tells the truth, most people demure and think "fine, let them live that way." Trump can tell the truth and lead the Republicans to a new wave of breaking people away from slavery.
Bill Clinton is wonderful if you like to be lectured by a rapist.
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I was very happy about the gay republican speaker and the response he received from the crowd.
Much different from the 2012 debate when the soldier was booed.
I also liked his LGBTQ-I don't even know what Q stands for?
Even Gingrich mentioned the LGBTQ things.
Do you know how many gays would be republican if the party platform wasn't so anti-gay...lots.
The democrat convention will be a parade of cliche's, lies (see the exploitation of Michael Brown's mother) hyped victimology, and SOCIALISM.
Socialism Makes People Selfish
I also enjoyed looking at all the clothes of the attendees.
@ 2:15 - Begins the laundry list of promises from Hillary.
Amazing the silly nonsense in some comments here about "recovery". Recessions end. Most of them end quickly. This one ended very slowly. That's bad. The president doesn't get credit for that.
Greg Mankiw asked this question before the first stimulus bill, back around 2009: how are you going to find out if it worked? Nothing obvious happened as a result. Does that mean we wasted 3/4 of a trillion dollars? Or would it have been worse otherwise? Or should the stimulus have been five times bigger (a la Paul Krugman)? No one knew then, or now.
The financial collapse was under a Democratic Congress - do they get the blame? Most of the recovery was under a Republican Congress - do they get the "credit"? Or is only the president that counts?
If Pres. Bush had left office just before the collapse, would he have gotten credit for eight years of uninterrupted prosperity, and the collapse would be Pres. Obama's fault? Oddly enough, that's what people say about the dot-com collapse, which was just after Pres. Clinton's tenure. He gets the credit for prosperity, meaning, the internet grew up when he was president. Not that any government entity had much to do with that.
All ridiculous.
Listening to a Frum/Klaus Blogginheads today. Frum, who is a NeverTrumper(naturally), berates Trump for not kissing Kasich’s ass because Trump “desperately” needs Kasich. He believes this proves Trump cannot govern.
http://tinyurl.com/j9nnyy7
Totally in the dark, the Frums of America. Full of wishful thinking, unconsciously biased analysis, selective forgetfulness and clueless to the end. Apparently Frum hasn’t seen the latest poll that has Trump tied with Hillary in Ohio. Hillary has spent millions in the state and Trump? Nothing. Not a dime … yet. Time for that after the Democrat convention and Crooked Hillary is locked in as his opponent.
http://tinyurl.com/zvht2ke
Trump doesn't seem to have a problem with Erdogan's purge of all opposition.
Actually, what Trump seems to have is a problem with is the USA riding in like the calvary whenever a despot anywhere in the Middle East decides to kill some of their own citizens. Despots are always murdering their own citizens – and torturing them – real torture, not waterboarding. To respond as we have in the past, to chase these unicorns and rainbows all over the Middle East every time this happens is an endless, thankless, expensive task. Knee-jerk regime changes and forcing Western style democracy down their throats has proven not to be the answer.
Other than cheering on rebelling democratic elements from afar, as long as they leave us and our allies alone we should stay out of their internal conflicts.
Actually, what Trump seems to have is a problem with is the USA riding in like the calvary whenever a despot anywhere in the Middle East decides to kill some of their own citizens. Despots are always murdering their own citizens – and torturing them – real torture, not waterboarding. To respond as we have in the past, to chase these unicorns and rainbows all over the Middle East every time this happens is an endless, thankless, expensive task. Knee-jerk regime changes and forcing Western style democracy down their throats has proven not to be the answer.
Other than cheering on rebelling democratic elements from afar, as long as they leave us and our allies alone we should stay out of their internal conflicts.
Not opposing it is supporting it in Trump World, much like not endorsing Trump is supporting his opponent in Trump World.
Simply saying "The man is a tyrant and Europe needs to deal with the issue" would be a solid response.
If Pres. Bush had left office just before the collapse, would he have gotten credit for eight years of uninterrupted prosperity, and the collapse would be Pres. Obama's fault? Oddly enough, that's what people say about the dot-com collapse, which was just after Pres. Clinton's tenure. He gets the credit for prosperity, meaning, the internet grew up when he was president. Not that any government entity had much to do with that.
All ridiculous.
A lot of people seem to forget what, precisely, Bush was given.
Dot-com meltdown. 9/11 slaughtered markets. A month and a half later, Enron goes under and we are stuck with the largest accounting scandal in recent history. Numbers for large companies were audited by companies that didn't even try to handle their jobs honestly. An outright collapse of the entire economic system wasn't impossible in those days at all.
Bush punished the wrong-doers --- Obama never did that --- showing that violation of the law is illegal, no matter your connections. He refused to bail out Enron when they came begging for money. He turned the economy around impressively, while getting literally no credit for anything.
Obama took over an economy after the bottom had dropped. The nadir was already reached. And he proceeded to try and kill the recovery in any way he could. And people are criticized for noting that the recovery and economy are terrible --- as I've asked repeatedly, how can a strong and robust economy have interest rates at ZERO because a fear of any increase would kill the economy?
Interesting. The comments were flooded by the left last night. But not really the paid Crooked Hillary shills, but more by the ones who have popped in here over the last year or so, but, except for Chuckles, haven't been that active. Obvious plan was to denigrate whatever Trump et al. were able to accomplish.
Funniest to me was the attempt to tar Trump as a pervert with his daughter. Funny, because they are going to be voting a well known pervert and sexual preditor to the White House, whom we can now also honestly call a pediphile after all his trips with Jeffry Epstein to his Pediphile Island (some of which he ditched his Secret Service detail to attend). Called false equivalents, and is something the left here is good at.
The attempts to try to whitewash Obama's and the Dems' economic record was somewhat pathetic. What they want us to forget is that the economy is cyclic, and was in the process of falling off the cliff into a recession when Obama took office. Of course we have recovered. That is what happens after recessions. It is only when you have Dem Presidents with strong Dem majorities in Congress that it doesn't happen automatically and reasonably quickly. This is the longest and one of the worst recoveries since their last big try with FDR. And a lot of that is because they ignore what we learned about Keynesian stimulus after it was tried in (but greatly lengthened) the Great Depression, and that is that government spending only works as a stimulus as you go into a recession. After that, it gets built into expectations, and takes capital away from (and slows) the expansion. How do we know this? Because Speaker Pelosi repeatedly told us, in glee, how the Dems were going to use govt spending to buy our way out of the recession, and since it was govt spending that mattered, they were going to spend like no tomorrow on their pet projects, making no all their friends and cronies filthy rich (including, of course, her family). They seemed to get that the last time massive amounts of borrowed money was spent to try to spend our way out of a recession resulted in the Great Depression, but missed that the spending then turned a minor recession into more than a decade of depression and misery.
"Obama has been President for 7 1/12 years. What freedoms has he taken away from you?"
As a musician, I had to stop taking wedding engagements, because I no longer have the freedom to choose whom I enter contracts with.
Of course we have recovered.
I'd argue we have not.
If interests rate were even at 1%, we'd have a total collapse.
Presumably you understand that uneducated folks not having high paying jobs isn't related to O-care
The less than 40 hour a week job is a direct result of O-care. People with college degrees trying to get a job at Costco. The hot degrees now are in engineering. My youngest nephew is going to be a sophomore at Perdue. The big employers are already scouting his class.
damikesc.
Economics requires math. Math is hard.
Here's a test to determine how well the economy is doing.
Try and get a business loan.
Economics requires math. Math is hard.
Here's a test to determine how well the economy is doing.
Try and get a business loan.
Hell, at this point, starting your own business is almost a fool's errand. Paying out the nose and having to comply with just ridiculous amounts of regulations now. It's downright tragic.
...unless you're an abortion provider. Then, any regulation is illegal.
But real businesses, large companies --- who give to Democrats heavily --- have utterly tilted the field against small companies.
Hell, at this point, starting your own business is almost a fool's errand. Paying out the nose and having to comply with just ridiculous amounts of regulations now. It's downright tragic.
Several physicians in my family and my daughter, who works in a medical office, can identify with this as they struggle to keep their offices open when more and more staff is required to handle all the new regulations and bureaucratic mess that providers face today. This is an effort to force them to be swallowed up by the mega-providers, the large corporations. We will be very short of physicians in the very near future. They are already importing more than are being graduated from med school.
"Are you running a machine shop out of your garage?"
"It's no secret."
"Is it for yourself or is it a business?"
"I'll tell you what. It's none of yours."
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