Well, isn't claiming a Cherokee ancestor when her actual ancestor was a soldier who rounded up Cherokees for the Trail of Tears kind of like claiming to be descended from a Jew in a concentration camp when you are descended from a prison guard there?
Just part of the regular spin the MSN does every day. Rigged system.
Make America great again. Rigged system. Crooked Hillary. Those three phrases are some of the most powerful ever in American politics. What does Hillary have? I'm with her?
Until I read this nonsense, I didn't even know that "the media" had accused Laura Ingraham of giving a nazi salute. So I googled it. Even Slate says the charges are ridiculous. Apparently "the media" now includes anyone with a twitter account. So apparently "the media" didn't ignore Elizabeth Warren's Nazi salute.
So now we must come to the inevitable conclusion that both the Democrats and Republicans are nothing more than fronts for the Nazi Party. Cedarford must be so pleased.
tim in vermont said... Well, isn't claiming a Cherokee ancestor when her actual ancestor was a soldier who rounded up Cherokees for the Trail of Tears kind of like claiming to be descended from a Jew in a concentration camp when you are descended from a prison guard there? 7/26/16, 7:28 AM
Or wrapping yourself around 'The Black Experience in America' when you were never the descendant of slaves, but of slavers. (Like Obama, if that was too subtle)
I hear Michelle Obama said America was the greatest country in the world. I thought that was doublebad think.
(Reminder:If the Democrats didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.)
And it shows the Democrats are going with "status quo is good if we liberalism extend". I think events will make that a very weak argument. Obama has made America weak and that weakness will keep manifesting. We've has 25 years, a generation of unchecked globalism. It's time to correct the abuses which is an issue that Trump got onto somehow. Hillary is one of the abuses - look at the Clinton money.
I think Warren has an opportunity for literary prominence if not greatness — a wonderful iconic novel about mischievous Schätzi, tragic Little Eva Braun, and their villainous overseer, Simeon Perfidy-Judenmann. She can call it
Life Among the Lowly Stormtroopers: or Uncle Tom's Tiger Tank
To show how prevalent the Ingraham story is. Typing "laura ingraham" in Google is auto completed to "laura ingraham nazi" before anything else. Before her show, Twitter or speech: Nazi.
So, I get it. You somehow missed that part of the news, despite it being a fairly big story during the news cycle it was a part of.
But, it is pure ignorance to pretend it wasn't memed and thrown out as part of the standard five minute hate against the Republican target du jour.
Matthew Sablan said... To show how prevalent the Ingraham story is. Typing "laura ingraham" in Google
I did this and the third link has a picture of Elizabeth Warren's nazi salute, well before any pictures of Ingraham. Not sure this really proves your point.
Until I read this nonsense, I didn't even know that "the media" had accused Laura Ingraham of giving a nazi salute. So I googled it. Even Slate says the charges are ridiculous. Apparently "the media" now includes anyone with a twitter account."
I'd be satisfied (and gobsmacked) if the exact same folk that said Nazi salute - Ingram said Nazi salute - Warren in the same volume and tone.
shiloh said... Althouse isn't even trying anymore.
Not very hard at least. She voted against Trump and Hillary in the primaries so she has no horse in the race. Scott Walker was her man. Make of that what you will.
As noted, Google's algorithms are very sensitive to recent trends, which is why Elizabeth Warren's nazi salute comes up as the third link. This is what the people want. The marketplace in action.
The argument: I wasn't aware of the Nazi salute thing. Well you should be or you have no right to comment
I think the point being made by "I wasn't aware of the Nazi salute thing" is that not everyone follows the daily news cycle. In fact a majority doesn't - they go with a less granular impression of events. And sometimes, especially this election, that less granular impression forms a quite different picture from the one seen close-up. Close-up: Trump is an American madness, losing. From a distance: Trump is getting stuff right, he's closing in on Hillary in the polls.
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Money grows on a magic government tree. You don't need children, the government will look after you when you are old. Hillary takes money without having it influence her decisions. Then gets more. Those aren't worthless glass beads the UN is giving in exchange for sovereignty.
I am SO tired of you people calling everyone you don't like Nazis. That would be like me calling everyone I don't like 'Fags' when I only call REAL fags 'Fags'. Do you call a black person a 'Chink'? Do you call a Chink a 'Spic'? Of course not, that doesn't make any sense...
I'm a Nazi, and that MEANS something. Call a spade a spade, if you get my meaning...
Assholes.
The Reckoning is coming, and it's coming with Cattle Cars: don't say I didn't tell you...
Wild Swan: It isn't that you have no right to comment on it, but to pretend that "since I didn't know X, X wasn't a big deal," is like saying, "But nobody I know voted for Nixon." It doesn't demonstrate reality, and to use it to try and marginalize what really happened [that this Nazi salute was actually a thing that happened and part of the news cycle] is just another example of either a self-centered view of the world or deliberate gas lighting to try and downplay how silly it looks now.
What anyone else says about Warren does not count for a hill of beans. Only her self-identification as a Native American, and her self-identification as a person of importance, counts. Because she is who she is, and she gets to define her ineffable place in the universe.
The rest of us, though, she gets to tell us exactly who and what we are, and what we are to do to please her.
Well, Ingraham sure didn't do a Nazi salute at the Republican convention, but ya gotta admit that that male a capella quartet from Montana that sang before Melania did an oddly compelling performance of the "Horst Wessel Lied"**
This is ridiculous. There is a big difference between a wave and a military salute (though, some senior officers get so casual about it, I can see some basis for confusion).
Also, most modern salutes are with the Right Hand, not the left.
Why not? They've already got a fascist slogan ("Stronger together"). Not to mention that whole "Nothing outside the State, everything for the State, nothing against the State" ideology.
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Well, isn't claiming a Cherokee ancestor when her actual ancestor was a soldier who rounded up Cherokees for the Trail of Tears kind of like claiming to be descended from a Jew in a concentration camp when you are descended from a prison guard there?
Just part of the regular spin the MSN does every day. Rigged system.
Make America great again. Rigged system. Crooked Hillary. Those three phrases are some of the most powerful ever in American politics. What does Hillary have? I'm with her?
Althouse isn't even trying anymore. Sad!
OT, but the look on Sarandon's face in the GIF is magic.
The moment Susan discovered Sanders voters have no principles. Bought for less than a can of Heady Topper.
Now all we have to do is divine her SS rank. Given her banal speaking style I'd surmise she's pretty lowly among the stormtroopers.
Rottenführer Warren. That's my theory.
Until I read this nonsense, I didn't even know that "the media" had accused Laura Ingraham of giving a nazi salute. So I googled it. Even Slate says the charges are ridiculous. Apparently "the media" now includes anyone with a twitter account. So apparently "the media" didn't ignore Elizabeth Warren's Nazi salute.
So now we must come to the inevitable conclusion that both the Democrats and Republicans are nothing more than fronts for the Nazi Party. Cedarford must be so pleased.
Althouse isn't even trying anymore.
There's no point in exertion when the stuff writes itself.
Apparently "the media" now includes anyone with a twitter account.
An equivalency in quality if not in title.
tim in vermont said...
Well, isn't claiming a Cherokee ancestor when her actual ancestor was a soldier who rounded up Cherokees for the Trail of Tears kind of like claiming to be descended from a Jew in a concentration camp when you are descended from a prison guard there?
7/26/16, 7:28 AM
Or wrapping yourself around 'The Black Experience in America' when you were never the descendant of slaves, but of slavers. (Like Obama, if that was too subtle)
I hear Michelle Obama said America was the greatest country in the world. I thought that was doublebad think.
(Reminder:If the Democrats didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.)
And it shows the Democrats are going with "status quo is good if we liberalism extend". I think events will make that a very weak argument. Obama has made America weak and that weakness will keep manifesting. We've has 25 years, a generation of unchecked globalism. It's time to correct the abuses which is an issue that Trump got onto somehow. Hillary is one of the abuses - look at the Clinton money.
Blogger shiloh said...
Althouse isn't even trying anymore. Sad!
7/26/16, 7:32 AM
Why should she? To keep the likes of you coming? Can't keep you away! Maybe you shouldn't be here if it isn't a safe space? Rhetorical.
Bless you fore and aft, Private Pyle!
I think Warren has an opportunity for literary prominence if not greatness — a wonderful iconic novel about mischievous Schätzi, tragic Little Eva Braun, and their villainous overseer, Simeon Perfidy-Judenmann. She can call it
Life Among the Lowly Stormtroopers: or Uncle Tom's Tiger Tank
Talking Points Memo went with it, and they are influential.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/laura-ingraham-rnc-nazi-salute-twitter?utm_content=buffere5638&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
But I agree this was kind of a cheap post that could be gotten anywhere. I think Althouse may be have a moment sort of like Susan Sarandon's
I think the whole whole fraud that is the DNC/Media is finally dawning on her.
The Nazi salute is so out. Wake me when politicians decide to bring back the "stiff legged machine walk". Good for exercise, and posture!
"Until I read this nonsense, I didn't even know that "the media" had accused Laura Ingraham of giving a nazi salute"
-- Be more aware of news if you want to comment on it, I guess?
To show how prevalent the Ingraham story is. Typing "laura ingraham" in Google is auto completed to "laura ingraham nazi" before anything else. Before her show, Twitter or speech: Nazi.
So, I get it. You somehow missed that part of the news, despite it being a fairly big story during the news cycle it was a part of.
But, it is pure ignorance to pretend it wasn't memed and thrown out as part of the standard five minute hate against the Republican target du jour.
"Oh, Schätzi!" whimpered poor consumptive Little Eva Braun between strangulating coughs, "Are we finally free of our cruel overseer Bernie Legree?"
A pearly smile of the kind Odin only granted to Aryans of the darker hue speed across mischievous Schätzi's ebony visage.
"Yes'm Mizz Eva," giggled Schätzi merrily as she applied the last drop of oil to her pristine MP-40. "We shore am judenrein now!"
Matthew Sablan said...
To show how prevalent the Ingraham story is. Typing "laura ingraham" in Google
I did this and the third link has a picture of Elizabeth Warren's nazi salute, well before any pictures of Ingraham. Not sure this really proves your point.
" Blogger Freder Frederson said...
Until I read this nonsense, I didn't even know that "the media" had accused Laura Ingraham of giving a nazi salute. So I googled it. Even Slate says the charges are ridiculous. Apparently "the media" now includes anyone with a twitter account."
I'd be satisfied (and gobsmacked) if the exact same folk that said Nazi salute - Ingram said Nazi salute - Warren in the same volume and tone.
Deal?
Finish the sentence ARM.
shiloh said...
Althouse isn't even trying anymore.
Not very hard at least. She voted against Trump and Hillary in the primaries so she has no horse in the race. Scott Walker was her man. Make of that what you will.
i just read about it in the media (this blog).
Google of Laura Ingraham:
nazi
(her name only)
speech
twitter
radio show
As noted, Google's algorithms are very sensitive to recent trends, which is why Elizabeth Warren's nazi salute comes up as the third link. This is what the people want. The marketplace in action.
The argument: I wasn't aware of the Nazi salute thing. Well you should be or you have no right to comment
I think the point being made by "I wasn't aware of the Nazi salute thing" is that not everyone follows the daily news cycle. In fact a majority doesn't - they go with a less granular impression of events. And sometimes, especially this election, that less granular impression forms a quite different picture from the one seen close-up. Close-up: Trump is an American madness, losing. From a distance: Trump is getting stuff right, he's closing in on Hillary in the polls.
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
Money grows on a magic government tree.
You don't need children, the government will look after you when you are old.
Hillary takes money without having it influence her decisions. Then gets more.
Those aren't worthless glass beads the UN is giving in exchange for sovereignty.
Renfro Jeffries. Nazi And Proud Of It!
I am SO tired of you people calling everyone you don't like Nazis. That would be like me calling everyone I don't like 'Fags' when I only call REAL fags 'Fags'. Do you call a black person a 'Chink'? Do you call a Chink a 'Spic'? Of course not, that doesn't make any sense...
I'm a Nazi, and that MEANS something. Call a spade a spade, if you get my meaning...
Assholes.
The Reckoning is coming, and it's coming with Cattle Cars: don't say I didn't tell you...
I'm Renfro Jeffries, Nazi And Proud Of It!
I am Laslo.
Wild Swan: It isn't that you have no right to comment on it, but to pretend that "since I didn't know X, X wasn't a big deal," is like saying, "But nobody I know voted for Nixon." It doesn't demonstrate reality, and to use it to try and marginalize what really happened [that this Nazi salute was actually a thing that happened and part of the news cycle] is just another example of either a self-centered view of the world or deliberate gas lighting to try and downplay how silly it looks now.
There is not one good picture of Warren's salute at Google images. None show the whole arm and hand. All are small.
Elizabeth Warren just did a Nazi salute,
An Indian salute. They're also allowed to use swastikas.
I switched the channel after Warren said "How."
"Heil Hillary!" does have a ring to it.
Warren has big ears like LBJ. Every time I see a picture of her I keep thinking of a 747 taxing for take-off...
Fasten your seat-belts ladies and gentlemen, it's going to be a rough ride...
What anyone else says about Warren does not count for a hill of beans.
Only her self-identification as a Native American, and her self-identification as a person of importance, counts. Because she is who she is, and she gets to define her ineffable place in the universe.
The rest of us, though, she gets to tell us exactly who and what we are, and what we are to do to please her.
Something about that seems not quite right to me.
Well, Ingraham sure didn't do a Nazi salute at the Republican convention, but ya gotta admit that that male a capella quartet from Montana that sang before Melania did an oddly compelling performance of the "Horst Wessel Lied"**
** I keed, I keed.....
Warren scares me.
"I hate Massachusetts Nazis."
This is ridiculous. There is a big difference between a wave and a military salute (though, some senior officers get so casual about it, I can see some basis for confusion).
Also, most modern salutes are with the Right Hand, not the left.
Socialists gonna socialist.
Why not? They've already got a fascist slogan ("Stronger together"). Not to mention that whole "Nothing outside the State, everything for the State, nothing against the State" ideology.
Funny, it didn't come up on my Facebook trendings either. Because, algorithm, I guess.
What does Robert Reich have to say about this?
She knows how to give Lefties boners.
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