July 14, 2016
"Mrs. Clinton’s six-percentage-point lead over the presumptive Republican nominee, Donald J. Trump, in a CBS News poll last month has evaporated."
"The two candidates are now tied in a general election matchup, the new poll indicates, with each receiving the support of 40 percent of voters," the NYT reports.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 428 Newer› Newest»Young Hegelian wrote:
Of course, they said that. The bastards can't live without their H1-B bondsmen.
The reliably left-of-center Slashdot is jumping all over this. Sample comments on the story:
"I'm not a Trump fan but I get the impression that many who like him believe he isn't bought and paid for like Hillary probably is. If they are right, it makes sense that these guys wouldn't want to lose their investment and have someone elected that isn't beholden to them."
"The tech executives just want to keep the gravy train of cheap, captive H-1B visa holders. I have been a Democrat all my life, donated many times to President Obama--and would vote for him again in a heartbeat. Hillary Clinton is the first Democratic presidential candidate in my life that I cannot support. I am senior enough in my field to have never had my personal job touched by an H-1B visa holder. (They are dishonest [linkedin.com] morons.) The way it's run, the entire H-1B visa program is a scam [linkedin.com]. So, I will be voting for Dr. Jill Stein. I will be damned if I will vote for Clinton. I've done that enough. She supports rich tech billionaires--not me--and I will return the favor. I would rather suffer through 4 years of Donald Trump instead of allowing Hillary Clinton to screw us."
https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/07/14/2011224/145-tech-leaders-say-trump-would-be-a-disaster-for-innovation#comments
Is there something here that doesn't apply to Hillary as well? Except that both of them are at 40%, not 30%, or are you one of those special snowflakes who gets their own facts?
The problem for both parties is even though they're facing a profoundly weak opponent, they're facing that opponent with a profoundly weak candidate of their own. Hillary's got so many skeletons she needs a walk-in closet. Worse, she is a terrible politician. Always has been. She's good at the Machiavellian part, but she's just a terribly unlikeable person, and that comes through when she appears in public. If she was facing anybody but Trump she'd have no chance at at all. You could say the same for Trump, too - were he facing someone like Obama or Bill Clinton he'd be crushed.
Terry, it's hard to know when people are being honest with those types of comments. That could be a concern troll, or it could be a person blowing off steam. I suspect most people will come home this election because the next president will probably get three SCOTUS picks.
@Bob Loblaw,
Terry, it's hard to know when people are being honest with those types of comments.
Are you kidding? In an on-line 'zine filled with American IT workers, it's hard to know if their anger about H1-B visas is honest?
When you poke a hornets' nest with a stick, don't stick around wondering if the hornets swarming out are "being honestly angry".
Blogger Birkel said...
"TERRORIST ATTACK IN NICE, FRANCE
ATTACKER USED FULLY AUTOMATIC TRUCK
WE MUST BAN FULLY AUTOMATIC TRUCKS
TO SAVE THE CHILDREN"
As a Manual enthusiast, I fully support this notion.
tim in vermont said...
What will be a "disaster" for Silicon Valley will be cutting off the supply of foreign programmers willing to work cheap.
............
I've worked with dozens (of H1Bs) in my stint in the SV (20 years), and while I'm sure some of them are on the ball, the ones I've worked with were kinda... sub par.
My final job was with a Navy-loving outfit that had a proportionally correct balance of AAs. They were useless.
I think we even had a fag quotient too. (totally useless, again, except for the Fag Hags in HR, they loved to yak, yak, yak with the Sodomites)
Not PC?
NOT MY PROBLEM.
YoungHegelian, I work in Northern California. All my friends, coworkers, and family are tech people. I remember the same sort of carping the last time around - everybody was going to vote for Ron Paul because Goldman Sachs was Obama's #3 donor and there was no way he would do anything but raise the H-1B caps.
By the time the election rolled around, though, they were back on the Obama train. Just like they'll be supporting Hillary in November. Nobody's going to vote for Jill Stein or Gary Johnson when push comes to shove, and this is California where it probably doesn't matter that much given the dominance of the Democratic machine here.
I went to some effort for an H1B worker. Some of that effort was motivated by the knowledge that the person was a good person who would become a great American. That proved true.
@Bob Loblaw,
YoungHegelian, I work in Northern California. All my friends, coworkers, and family are tech people.
And what do you think I do for a living?
Your comment raised the question of if the comments in SlashDot were "concern trolls". No, I think not. Their anger is quite genuine. Do your IT compatriots like H1-Bs in principle? Maybe some of them will come around to HRC this time. Maybe not. She strikes me as the sort of woman that drives IT-type personalities up a wall, & not "a story of hope & change" like Obama. YMMV.
But, remember no Republican candidate ever called out H1-Bs by name, & no Dem has either. Trump has called them out by name. Disney's (the very epitome of a company attached at the hip to the Democratic Party) mass dismissal of its American IT staff in favor of outsourcing to India struck a nerve among IT workers everywhere. I think Trump may do surprisingly well among that sort of IT worker, even if they'd never admit it in public. Once in the voting booth, that may be a different story.
It happens, Bob, but the dickweed H1B foremost in my memory cost my small company a half a billion, and set back Naval Warfare at least a year.
Has the obambi administration initiated an accelerated immigration program from Nice, France yet?
P.S.
The CEO's dad was an Admiral.
Barf.
Happy Bastille Day! Had shore patrol duty ~ St. Raphael 1980 on July 14. Hey it got me off the ship! I digress as I'm trying to be like MK ie irrelevant anecdotes.
Yes, another"irrelevant anecdote" when an ISIS driver runs a truck into a crowd in Nice, a big tourist center on the Riviera, and then gets out shooting with another of those illegal automatic weapons.
60 dead so far. Trump will be up another 5 points next week.
"remember no Republican candidate ever called out H1-Bs by name,"
That's when Carly lost me after I donated some money to her. I'm hoping my donation to Ryan's primary opponent does better.
when an ISIS driver runs a truck into a crowd in Nice, a big tourist center on the Riviera
It is really weird when you read about a terrorist attack in a city & you know the layout of the place by heart. My great-aunt lived in Nice, & she was like a second mother to my mother, so we spent more time in Nice than any other place in France.
I know very well the Hotel Meridien, at the intersection of the Promenade Des Anglais & Ave. de Verdun. Right across the Promenade from the hotel is where one boards the little sightseeing train that takes one through the old city & to the old port.
It's weird to think of the place littered with the injured & dead like a war zone.
Hey Michael K, me too. $80 so far which for me is a HUGE political contribution. I never donate to candidates. This is my first time since the 90s. I donated a couple hundred dollars to George Nethercutt to defeat then speaker Tom Foley D-WA.
John Henry
I donated $100.00 to Mike Flynn.
He's dead.
I wonder if Pence will survive the night.
Apparently the only source confirming him as the pick is the Indy Star. The Trump campaign denys it. Or at least refuses to confirm it. Reports are confusing.
Might the Indy Star be trying to stampede Trump into a decision? And if so, for or against Pence?
Trump strikes me as the type of person who, even if he has picked Pence, might unpick him in favor of someone else rather than be stampeded. I find that a good character trait.
We'll know at 11.
John Henry
I have a story to tell, I call it "I see dead Sailors".
No nibbles yet.
Seventy-three dead in Nice so far. Hardly irrelevant. :-(
"60 dead so far. Trump will be up another 5 points next week."
How is this possibly going to help Trump? So no concern for the dead, but joy that Trump's numbers go up? What is wrong with people?
Trump apparently gave supporters an early notice and that may be where this comes from. I have read that Pence has left Indiana for NJ airport.
I think it's a pretty good choice.
Not too old, like Newt.
Not too brash like, Christie.
He is not very colorful but that is a plus.
Moby Eric.
"joy that Trump's numbers go up? What is wrong with people?"
No joy. I was in Nice a few years ago.
Which candidate wants to keep Muslims out until "we can figure out what is going ?"
BLM and ISIS might as well be on Trump's payroll for all they are going to do for him.
And they can't help it. It's the scorpion and the frog again.
Oh Oh "Profile not available" eric.
Leaving Trump aside, things are getting worse at an accelerating rate.
Terrorist attacks in western countries is just one channel of destruction.
US politics are in a disastrous state, but thats just one thing.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/688821/Patrick-Calvar-intelligence-chief-warns-France-on-brink-of-civil-war-migrant-sex-attacks
Patrick Calvar, chief of the Directorate General of Internal Security, told members of the French parliamentary commission that thanks to the increasing frequency of sexual assaults by islamic migrants, "Extremism is growing everywhere... We are on the brink of civil war."
This, today's attack, certainly isn't going to help.
"How is this possibly going to help Trump? So no concern for the dead, but joy that Trump's numbers go up? What is wrong with people?"
MK is old and senile ~ cut him some slack or not. Fortunately everything he posts here is pretty much irrelevant.
What is happening in Europe should teach us that this mass Muslim immigration is not just a dismal failure but the destroyer of civilizations. I was disappointed that the dhimmi Theresa May will be the new PM of the UK. Not only did she not support Brexit but she upholds Sharia law.
Hillary's ads make me like Trump.
Got is going to help Trump because Hillary and Obama have their fingerprints all over the turmoil in the Middle East, where a lot of the Muslims flooding into Europe came from. We didn't need to help try to effect regime change in Syria, as we had in Lybia and Egypt. But they did. But only half assed. Drew some lines in the sand that were ignored. And most of the weapons we contributed ended up in the hands of ISIS. It continues, and we are now trying to do a deal with the Russians so we can do joint operations - which means ignoring what they have been doing in NATO ally Ukrane. By backing the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, she showed that she approves of using terrorism and violence to win hearts, minds, and territory. Etc.
It also lets Trump be the strong one on Terrorism here and abroad. Most Americans have figured out that the attacks in Florida and in Sampn Bernadino, Fort Hood, etc, were terrorist attacks. The Administration has been lying through their teeth to the American people trying to pretend that isn't true. Crooked Hillary is tied to that because she was Sec of State, and has been campaigning on AF 1 with Obama.
Comment by shiloh blocked.
Well, I certainly hope so. :-)
Cheney/Bush unlawfully/stupidly/ineptly invade Iraq and al-Qaeda/Isis rise from the ashes. Go figure!
Indeed, one of the biggest political/military blunders in history.
Thanx Dick/George ...
Mission Accomplished!
Go drive a Tesla while whacking off to an HRC speech.
Pitiful.
Private Shiloh!!
Back on the war theme, I see. You make enough from Halliburton to buy a new metal detector? Mini balls galore out there, Private, you just have to look.
You wear that Grand Army uniform every evening? Hot eh?
Back to the battlements, private.
LOL
Hillary is far more of a hawk than Trump and Obama hasn't given terrorists a free pass by any strech of the imagination, drones have wiped out plenty of them in the past 7 1/2 years. Most of these terrorist acts have been perpetrated by home grown citizens of the country in which they occurred, not by immigrants.
Shiloh, you mean the ashes of Iraq after Obama stupidly pulled our troops out and let the place burn to the ground? You mean the ashes of Libya, which is now a de facto ISIS state? There were political/military blunders, and they were made by Obama and Hillary. Educate yourself!
A Putz gotta Putz.
so much death,
https://twitter.com/petehoekstra
Hillary contributes to the destabilization of Libya, Egypt, Syria and Iraq...
While the Obama Administration - for which he worked and advised - helped Iran get nuclear weapons...
So it's not that Trump is helping d but that Hillary's chickens are coming home to roost.
Just watch - even if it turns out that the terrorist was screaming "Allah Akbar" at the top of his lungs before he was killed and he swore allegiance to ISIS, the words "radical Islam" will not pass President Dimwit's lips. That is how Trump gains 5 points from this. It's not "joy" for Chrissake. It's recognizing that the Left can not and will not put a name to this enemy.
Conservatives predict that leftist policies inevitably lead to terror, murder and misery. Leftists mock them and tell them their fears are silly and racist. Then, when leftist policies result in the terror, murder and misery the conservatives predicted all along, my, do the leftists get pissy when that is pointed out.
Trump would be occupying his time with real estate deals and steak and TV shows if leftists like Obama and Hillary and their retarded fans like Shiloh didn't have their heads buried up the their own asses.
When will you dolts wake up? When you find yourself flat on your back on the sidewalk and your right leg is one street down?
How Disbanding the Iraqi Army Fueled ISIS
After nearly a year of air strikes led by the U.S. and ground attacks by the U.S.-trained Iraqi army, the Islamic State of Iraq and Greater Syria (ISIS) is proving to be a far more cagey and cunning foe than the Pentagon ever expected. A big reason for its success is the George W. Bush Administration’s decision to disband the Iraqi army shortly after the 2003 invasion—without the knowledge or consent of either the Pentagon or President.
It’s a jarring reminder of how a key decision made long ago is complicating U.S. efforts to fight ISIS and restore some semblance of stability to Iraq. Instead of giving Iraq a fresh start with a new army, it helped create a vacuum that ISIS has filled. Anthony Zinni, a retired Marine general and chief of U.S. Central Command from 1997 to 2000, said keeping the Iraqi army intact was always part of U.S. strategy. “The plan was that the army would be the foundation of rebuilding the Iraqi military,” he says. “Many of the Sunnis who were chased out ended up on the other side and are probably ISIS fighters and leaders now.” One expert estimates that more than 25 of ISIS’s top 40 leaders once served in the Iraqi military.
Oops!
"Most of these terrorist acts have been perpetrated by home grown citizens of the country"
Many are recent - the ones in the Paris attacks were "new". Some of the perpetrators in the US were also "new", among them the mysterious, disappeared wife of the the Orlando fellow.
And the second generation indeed. What does that say about the wisdom of letting in their parents, and what will the next generation after the current lot get up to? Are you all not just planting the seeds of the perpetual war of the next century?
Hillary is far more of a hawk than Trump and Obama hasn't given terrorists a free pass by any strech of the imagination, drones have wiped out plenty of them in the past 7 1/2 years. Most of these terrorist acts have been perpetrated by home grown citizens of the country in which they occurred, not by immigrants.
Obama and Hillary have created the "shit show" (Obama's description) in Libya and further destabilized Syria by arming a faction in the civil war there. They abandoned Iraq, leaving a military vacuum there, so they could suck up to their lefty voters back home.
Obama got the presidency stuck in the sand trap, he thought he could just take a mulligan, like he does in golf, most likely, instead of playing the ball where it lay. So he pulls the troops, that was a compounding blunder of the first magnitude.
So yeah, it's fair to blame a lot of what is going on on them.
And if it is second generation immigrants that are committing this kind of violence, what does that say about the advisability of bringing in a cohort of immigrants who don't believe in democracy, don't believe in women's rights, but at least they don't stone them on sight, the way they do gays. Don't you Democrats have enough problem with the Christian troglodytes already here? Why import more trouble?
they were also the enforcers of the baathist clique from tikrit, mukharabat, special republican guard, the core of whom were salafi, or collaborating with same,
It's Semen shiloh.
Maybe Seaman. Used to claim to be a Navy vet.
Never fear, Hillary is here!
"We came, we saw, he died, LOL" - Hillary Clinton.
Hillary is a master strategist playing more dimensions than a string theorist! She figures that if she can just create enough refugees around the world, and bring them in to the US, she can lock in the party for generations!
Althouse, where the hell do you come up with these TPM clowns?
I know, not your fault,
The shit show began with the invasion of Iraq and your hero Trump agrees with that. He pretty much said Bush was an idiot. Iraq was the first domino that set off the rest.
they really think, 'they will be eaten last' as churchill would put it, and the islamic state, is not new in it's murderous means, the golden square, 75 years ago, followed the nazi standard, as it slew it's way through the jewish quarter,
You know what the most harm to Hillary's image has been in the last few weeks, the dawning realization that she is not overly bright. Which is why Comey let her off, she wasn't smart enough to even know what she was doing was wrong! Once you get that about her, so many things that happened in the past make sense.
She wasn't even the smartest girl in her tenth grade classes. So there are waitresses and real estate agents running around Illinois that were smarter than her in high school.
Unknown must be very young.
of course, among ali ghailani's (the iraqi petainist) number was Saddam's uncle, but the likely perpetrator is north africa, although he may have been to syria or yemen,
BLM members were very displeased at the time of the Paris attacks because it took the spot light off of them.
I'm sure they must be livid that the world, once again, will be paying more attention to a bunch of dead French crackas* instead of their "Day of Rage."
"It's OUR day, damn you!! Loooookkkk at us!!!"
*Of course, the dead and injured in Nice are not all white. But your life or death only matters to the left if you are killed by a white Christian male.
The shit show began with the invasion of Iraq and your hero Trump agrees with that. He pretty much said Bush was an idiot. Iraq was the first domino that set off the rest.
So all of the stuff that Hillary did to make it worse doesn't count? And you want to give her more chances when all she has ever done is fuck up?
Blogger Jon Ericson said...
Unknown must be very young.
She only wishes she was.
Inga is an elderly harridan just like Hillary.
Dominos -
Iranian Revolution was first - this kicked out a MAJOR prop of regional stability.
Iraq invading Iran was next.
Iran responding by threatening world oil was next.
Iraq invading Kuwait looking for a consolation prize was next.
Iraq getting kicked out of Kuwait, but the regime surviving was next.
A LOOONG period of BS and accumulating instability followed.
Then 911.
And you can go back and bring in parallel threads all you need to, there is always a case to be made if you leave out whatever doesn't fit.
Just watch - even if it turns out that the terrorist was screaming "Allah Akbar" at the top of his lungs before he was killed and he swore allegiance to ISIS, the words "radical Islam" will not pass President Dimwit's lips.
And he will express that we are 'still trying to unravel the motive'.
Blogger Unknown said...
The shit show began with the invasion of Iraq
Yeah, God knows, it's not like anything happened on 9/11/01. Or in the 1990's. Or in Iran in 1979.
Jesus, you're a senile old fool.
I think that the Iraq war was a mistake. It's Hillary that repeated the mistake twice over, BTW, your hero Hillary. Why are we involved in a civil war in Syria again? What is going on there that wasn't going on in Iraq? Why did we overthrow Qaddafi again? What was going on in Libya that wasn't going on in Saddam's Iraq?
So Hillary proved her "conviction" the conviction with which she voted for the Iraq war, by repeating the same mistake twice, and I am supposed to be mad at Trump for some reason? Please explain.
If I had to describe Obama in one word, it would be 'fatuous'.
BTW, it is a bit cumbersome skipping over all the Unknown posts but it sure beats reading them.
Pence is Open Boarder, Pro-Amnesty.
I can't see his role in a Trump campaign, except to fire him live, On-Air.
Unknown is probably not Inga. But I do sort of miss Inga. She used to accuse me of being a sock puppet all the time. Most likely Unknown is trolling for the Clinton campaign, getting on line as soon as she gets her talking points, from which she rarely deviates. If the polls look good for Hillary, she makes sure we talk of nothing else, and if they are like today's then she tries to make sure we talk of anything else.
One of the Unknowns is Inga et.al.
Same writing style.
I wonder if Trump is using the excuse of the terror attacks to dump Pence for stepping on his announcement by making a big show of giving up his re-election campaign. I can never figure out why politicians try to take the suspense out of announcements. Look at the Comey presser, it was compelling because nobody knew what was going to be said.
Anyway, assuming fracking becomes usable OUTSIDE the US,
(Which I think is a major target for undermining by the Saudis and other oil states, as nowhere outside the protection of conservative US States (hurrah for States Rights!) has it prospered. Which makes no sense on a practical level, the US cannot be geologically unique from ND to TX.)
the strategic value of the Persian Gulf is much reduced. That is a large change in the problem case. It matters a great deal less what these people get up to.
"Unknown is probably not Inga"
I didn't think so either at first. But the habit of stubbornly doubling and tripling down on stupid even when her points are clearly disproven by one or more commenters and the habit of cutting and pasting long quotes (from impressive sources like HuffPo and Wiki) in lieu of presenting arguments in her own words make me think it's Inga. Inga, remember, has a habit of frequently changing nics. She's used at least 6 or 7 of them on this site.
And in any case, it should be clear that it is extremely imprudent to let these people into your country. It doesn't matter if the present generation more or less behaves itself, it is likely that the next generation will be much worse.
"And he will express that we are 'still trying to unravel the motive'."
The only time he has no problem immediately establishing the motive is when a white - or a "white Hispanic" - shoots a black. No doubts then!
U.S. Secretly Gave Aid to Iraq Early in Its War Against Iran
The American decision to lend crucial help to Baghdad so early in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war came after American intelligence agencies warned that Iraq was on the verge of being overrun by Iran, whose army was bolstered the year before by covert shipments of American-made weapons.
The New York Times and others reported last year that the Reagan Administration secretly decided shortly after taking office in January 1981 to allow Israel to ship several billion dollars' worth of American arms and spare parts to Iran. That intervention and the decision to aid Iraq directly in 1982 provide evidence that Washington played a much greater role than was previously known in affecting the course of the long and costly Iran-Iraq war. U.S. Asserted Neutrality
So let's recap, shall we:
During the 8 year Iran/Iraq War the U.S. was supplying both sides w/American made weapons. How quaint.
And who was president at this time ~ Dutch!
Interesting Cheney/Bush were out of the loop during much of the Iraq War much like Bush41 was out of the loop during the Iran-Contra scandal. Like father, like son.
I yield back the balance of my time.
If you all need immigrants, best is to look for compatible people with a track record of integrating and not being a burden on the natives. You have the option of selecting whom you let in.
If Germany and France had gone about all this in a rational way, they would have gone to East Asia and set up recruiting offices. They would have gotten far better quality, guaranteed to integrate and not rape, nor any potential terrorists. Why they have been doing what they are doing - makes absolutely no sense.
MISTER cut and paste, I salute you!
Guess what kind of salute.
Pence may have been one of the few who agreed to taint themselves with Trump's stink. After Trump loses, any politician who endorsed him or aligned themselves with him will be personas non grata in D.C.
OOOh! Trump's stink. uhuh, uhuh, uhuh.
"During the 8 year Iran/Iraq War the U.S. was supplying both sides w/American made weapons. "
The US never sold weapons to Iraq. Much is made of construction equipment and the like, but there were no weapons. The Iraqi purchases came from a large number of countries, none of which was cooperating with the US on much at the time. The Soviets, China, Brazil, France covers nearly all of it.
The Israel-Iran business is true, and others also traded with Iran "under the table" for US spare parts and certain weapons to keep Iranian air defenses viable.
If you want a nitty gritty account about exactly what was sold and what use was made of it, try this - Iran-Iraq War in the Air 1980-1988 Cooper&Bishop
But the habit of stubbornly doubling and tripling down on stupid even when her points are clearly disproven by one or more commenters and the habit of cutting and pasting long quotes (from impressive sources like HuffPo and Wiki) in lieu of presenting arguments in her own words make me think it's Inga.
OMG, That's how they all argue! It's "Woman's way of knowing #2" They believe that "thinking" means "learning" the opinions they are supposed to have and being able to repeat them back. There is no ownership of the rationales, they aren't involved, they just trust the "facts" they have been given, whatever the latest talking point is, and repeat them and believe it to be devastating debate tactics. They cut and paste because they can't put their position into their own words. Not sure why they bother pretending to debate, but I bet they don't even know how how lame they are being.
"The last 8 years never happened" - Shiloh
"After Trump loses, any politician who endorsed him or aligned themselves with him will be personas non grata in D.C."
Does it matter, for the sake of electability, what one is though of in DC? These people, after all, are elected outside of it. One would think that DC itself will then be just as hated, if not more so. What the public outside of DC thinks seems like a significant issue.
"The US never sold weapons to Iraq"
The Reagan Administration secretly decided to provide highly classified intelligence to Iraq in the spring of 1982 -- more than two years earlier than previously disclosed -- while also permitting the sale of American-made arms to Baghdad in a successful effort to help President Saddam Hussein avert imminent defeat in the war with Iran, former intelligence and State Department officials say.
"Fortunately everything he posts here is pretty much irrelevant."
Does anyone else sense the panic in the lefties ?
It's kind of funny except for what is going on in France.
The Fox News feed from Nice shows the point at which promenade des anglais enters the city. Just on the right of that view is a series of columns and arches where we had dinner the last time I was there. I know exactly where that is.
It's just tragic. I talked to my middle daughter just now and asked her if she remembers walking down to the Seine on Bastille Day when she was 12 and we were in Paris. She was just in Zurich.
No Paris for us for a while.
Rumsfeld helped Saddam get chemical weapons, research it yourself.
How did Hillary make the situation better once Obama took power Shiloh? What were her moves that improved the situation?
Hillary's lust for blood did work out to the US's advantage in the case of bin Laden. I think Obama might have been on the fence there, but not our Goldwater Girl! She wanted blood that day, and in that case, like a stopped clock, she was right.
it is, this is why the center for american progress, has been in part funded by gulf states, to prevent further fracking, when you see think regress, that's whose underwriting them in part, there's a movie company out of the emirates, that underwrote most of the antiwar schlock like syriana, they also funded zero dark thirty, but that was the exception,
And now there is a big (apparently) fire at the Eiffel Tower. All Drudge is linking to is a series of tweets in French so I have no idea what is going on.
There is a picture at Drudge.
John Henry
Silver lining: This latest "workplace violence" incident involving men of "unknown origin" and with no discernible reason for conducting the attack just might slow obambi down from providing more untraceable fully automatic weapons to drug cartels in Mexico.
Though we really can't be 100% sure of that.
"while also permitting the sale of American-made arms to Baghdad"
No such arms were sold to Baghdad. Everyone who has analyzed Iraqi arms purchases of the period has never found any. Try SIPRI for one (they are Swedish).
This all was a big Mcguffin for the left in those days. It was false.
Neither Reagan, nor Bush, are running for POTUS, Hillary is. She is a dim-witted fuck up, and there is no defending her actions as SoS. Which is why Unknown and Shiloh won't do it.
MNichols: "Rumsfeld helped Saddam get chemical weapons, research it yourself."
Did he help capture the aliens held at Area 51 as well?
Looks like MNichols caught a bad case of the "Robert Cook's".
the French were so in bed with Saddam, that Tammuz 16, was actually called O'Chirac, Total Elf had at least one concession with the regime, most of the heavy weapons came from either France or the Soviet Union,
Shiloh! Go! Now's your chance to go to TPM and get a new line of bullshit! Go! Go! Go!
(just trying to help, old man)
We could have avoided the whole war if the French hadn't sold Saddam their Security Council veto for huge oil concessions. Saddam would have gotten on a helicopter and left except the French convinced him they could hold back the US.
MNichols said...
Rumsfeld helped Saddam get chemical weapons, research it yourself.
Another "Profile not available."
Are we going to be over run with trolls ?
buwaya: "No such arms were sold to Baghdad. Everyone who has analyzed Iraqi arms purchases of the period has never found any. Try SIPRI for one (they are Swedish).
This all was a big Mcguffin for the left in those days. It was false."
Remember, according to our lefty friends, Romney was busy giving female employees cancer, the Bush family personally financed Hitler, Reagan/Bush were busy absconding with random SR=71's to secretly visit with the Ayatollah's reps, Reagan had cocaine shipped into minority communities, W utilized the "Weather controller" to divert a hurricane to a chocolate city and then he blew the levee's, etc etc etc.
Next up: shiloh et al start quoting the hilariously false Lancet "study" which indicated that W was responsible for eleventy-gajillion dead Iraqi's all the while single-handedly ushering in global warming while Cheney pocketed billions from Halliburton while VP!
Why are we talking about this anyway? Trump has repudiated Bush's policies, and Bush isn't running.
Hillary is running, let's talk about her record! Ooops, sore subject, eh Shiloh? Unknown?
"Rumsfeld helped Saddam get chemical weapons, research it yourself."
No, you do it. There is no US made chemical weapons equipment sold to Iraq.
All that stuff came from the Germans.
And the stuff that Iraq actually used was dual-use chem.
And they were gassing people before they started fighting the Iranians.
This just in, Barbary pirates seize American ships and sailors.
Left blames republicans.
re the Eiffel Tower?
Never mind. A truck carrying fireworks caught fire. Not connected with terrorism.
Fire is now out.
John Henry
Well, clearly sending James Taylor over there to sing "You've Got a Friend" was just a meaningless gesture. It's time for the Obama administration to get really serious.
He needs to send Beyonce. She can sing "We Are the World."
The Iraq war happened because Hussein invaded a sovereign nation. It was suspend with an armistice agreement that was violated through progressive steps to deny responsibility. The Iraq war could have been concluded under Clinton, but he preferred to poke and provoke terrorists throughout Eurasia... and subordinate women in his office. The culmination of Clinton's administration was an economic morass, and a progressive terrorist force that planned and executed the 9/11 attack inside America. Bush II forced a focal point for terrorist activity in Iraq and "killed two birds with one stone", successfully. Bush's success, of our military, and of our diplomats, was as honest brokers between population and ruling factions that were historically managed by dictators. Obama caused the catastrophic anthropogenic warring -- that progressed to catastrophic anthropogenic global warring (CAGW) -- through premature evacuation of the honest brokers from Iraq. He followed through with his social justice-inspired humanitarian disaster to remove politically unfavorable regimes that progressed to become a global humanitarian disaster. Ironically, Gaddafi had reformed and repented under Reagan, but was brought to "justice" under Obama and Clinton through torture, sodomy, and abortion (the unholy trinity of Pro-Choice).
Kumbaya ~ Rummy/Saddam Dec 1983
This is the kind of attack that can only be addressed by white Americans learning how to change and by offering up a "totally serious you guys" hashtag campaign.
The Arming of Iraq
Educate yourselves.
thank you, I was going to bring up sipri, also ken timmerman's early work 'fanning the flames' showing how all the world fed iran and iraq quartermasters.
Obviously the underlying cause of this event was our failure to allow enough immigration from the south of France.
That and our failure to fully divest from Israel.
#leftylogic!
MK, you were overrun 20 years ago, but nobody told you.
Try to keep up!
"Hillary is running, let's talk about her record! Ooops, sore subject, eh Shiloh? Unknown?"
OMG!
Microaggression !
I rest my case.
Nervous Senate Democrats raised concerns with Hillary Clinton during a private meeting in the Capitol Thursday over a recent poll showing Donald Trump leading or tied in several battleground states. “Some people were freaked out, they were looking down at the polls on Real Clear Politics and asking why it was so close,” said a Democratic senator who attended the meeting - The Hill
You fucked up Democrats! You trusted a Clinton!
This is the kind of event that might cause Bill Clinton to delay, slightly, his next trip to pedophile island.
Blogger shiloh said...
MK, you were overrun 20 years ago, but nobody told you.
Try to keep up!
7/14/16, 8:02 PM
Please, PLEASE, do the pineapple thing, With barbed wire, sideways y'know? :-)
I hope none of Bill Clintons future sexual assault victims are too seriously harmed by hillary's efforts to attack and discredit them.
And, if you want to dig further, much of the various theories about the US supporting Saddam and etc. came in as a "dezinformatsiya" from the Soviets, who actually were the main, the principal, arms supplier to Iraq. Just look at the Iraqi arsenal from pistols to combat aircraft, nearly everything was Soviet, with just odds and ends from anyone else.
We are still dealing with decades of "dezinformatsiya", this is just one, today minor, leftover of an organized campaign of lies. One prominent one that actually has had long term consequences is the Soviet meme that the US bombed Egyptian airbases in 1967, thereby explaining why the Israelis won so handily - the Egyptians (Nasser) got behind that because obviously one couldn't have the despised Israelis winning on their own, that was too much humiliation to bear. This is still current in modern anti-American propaganda.
This is clearly the act of a JV team and should not cause anyone any discomfort or concern.
Candy, Candy Crowley? Can I get an amen?
Team Clinton has outspent Team Trump in nine battleground states by a 40-1 ratio, NBC reported.
So all of that selling out to the big donors, all those markers laid down, favors owed, and what to show for it. People are tuning out Hillary. Tuning out the hate campaign she is running.
Althouse cons please, I beseech you to pace yourselves as the next couple months could be quite painful to the party of Lincoln!
It's sometimes difficult to carry on a conversation after an islamic terror attack what with all the celebrations from the muslims and the immediate chorus of #BushCheneyReaganHalliburton from the trolls.
You would think the lefties would be too busy visiting their latest "successful" experiment in leftwing economics and theory in Venezuela or enacting more fascist speech control laws on campus to have time to offer up their standard defense of islamic murders.
shiloh said... [hush][hide comment]
Althouse cons please, I beseech you to pace yourselves as the next couple months could be quite painful to the party of Lincoln!
7/14/16, 8:11 PM
You need to get some advice from ballboy.
You falling short. (heh).
He has a new book of insults, He told me so.
I wonder if this will cause obambi to only get in 18 holes of golf tomorrow instead of 36.
Shiloh seems to be one of the last holdout Soviets.
I never understood those people. The Soviets never really did pay well.
Althouse cons please, I beseech you to pace yourselves as the next couple months could be quite painful to the party of Lincoln! - Shiloh
Meanwhile Democrat Senators who were hoping to win back the Senate are panicking! Don't they know that blog commenter Shiloh is on the case!
Blogger shiloh said...
Althouse cons please, I beseech you to pace yourselves as the next couple months could be quite painful to the party of Lincoln!
7/14/16, 8:11 PM
Probably so, since I expect that thanks to those shitstains Hillary and Obama, many, many more innocent people will die.
That should be a painful thought to any human being. That excludes you....
So, Pro-Choice is the Democrat platform. Reproductive prostitution (e.g. Heather has one father, a male transgender/homosexual guardian, and rent-a-mother) to normalize male and female transgender/homosexuals, and compensate for the progressive dysfunction of the female chauvinist revolution. Creating unsafe spaces for grandma, mom, daughter, and sister through integration of transgender/crossovers and male rapists and sodomists. And, of course, the "final solution" (i.e. abortion rites), and channeling Mengele through Planned Parenthood, #CecileTheCannibal et al. I wonder what they plan for an encore. We live in interesting times.
Blogger buwaya said...
" I wonder what they plan for an encore. We live in interesting times."
There is no encore. The end state is no children, a lonely and bitter old age for all, and extermination.
On a progressive course a Dodo Dynasty does seem inevitable. Still, despite the establishment of the Pro-Choice Church, there is evidence that Posterity is repulsed by its gods, judges, and religious/moral philosophy. It can be reformed through a proper reconciliation of moral and natural imperatives. The classical liberal philosophy tempered by a suitable religion -- say, Christianity -- would qualify.
buwaya: "Shiloh seems to be one of the last holdout Soviets. I never understood those people. The Soviets never really did pay well."
shiloh is one of those East Germany types who actually wanted to follow Honeckers last order to shoot the freedom protestors.
That boy is a regular punching bag.
Not to worry though. R&B's will be along shortly to explain how all those communist leaders were actually white, Christian, southern republicans!
I wonder if Huma offered congratulations to any of her Muslim Brotherhood family members?
yes, this fellow shows where much of this turmoil began,
http://www.israpundit.org/archives/63615361
reports about high ranking islamic state figures, show they often were soviet trained, and they have displayed a soft touch from berlin to grozny,
Blogger Drago said...
I wonder if this will cause obambi to only get in 18 holes of golf tomorrow instead of 36.
Before or after he meets with BLM reps? Oh wait, he did that yesterday.
Smiles and fist bumps exchanged, I'm sure.
Quick question: when a muslim offers you treats in celebration of the latest terrorist attack, is it racist to decline?
Somebody put out an APB for my buddy Althouse. Her last post was at 6:52 AM. Highly unusual.
One thing is for sure: the media will be on triple-overtime to locate a rural pizza joint whose owners are uncomfortable with catering a gay wedding.
Advice to all rural pizza joints: make sure you have the reporters order and pay for their pizza before answering any questions!
shiloh said... [hush][hide comment]
Somebody put out an APB for my buddy Althouse. Her last post was at 6:52 AM. Highly unusual.
7/14/16, 8:21 PM
Is this some kind of a comment???
Thank you Narciso, this is indeed one source. Parts of this I think were cited by Oren in "Six days of War". Much else is in Mitrokhin.
I beseech you to pace yourselves as the next couple months could be quite painful to the party of Lincoln!
NO comment.
I'm laughing too hard.
I hope Hillary's body guards have been vetted.
You know about Indira.
Is this some kind of a comment???
He wants the bad news about Hillary's polling off the top of the page.
Has ABC news conducted an exhaustive search yet to determine if the perpetrator was a Tea Party or NRA member?
I think David Brock will be very disappointed with the performance of his paid trolls this evening.
In the trolls defense, they don't have much to work with and that should be acknowledged.
Serious question: when the dems pay trolls to post online in another of their fake astroturf efforts, do they pay more than minimum wage and provide health benefits?
I would bet they don't.
"You would think the lefties would be too busy visiting their latest "successful" experiment in leftwing economics and theory in Venezuela"
I notice the leftists do not mention Venezuela these days. What a change from those happy days when Hugo Chavez came to New York and got an ovation at the UN because he called Bush the devil. Oh, what a happy, happy day that was for the Cookies and Shilohs and Ritmos. Boy, old Hugo really spoke Truth to Power!
And now his daughter is the richest person in Venezuela and the country is headed for famine.
Hey, let's talk about pronouns for trannies!
Is it too soon for the left to protest the killing of this "truck driver of color" by white European police officers?
#muslimterroristlivesmatter!
Watch out, TPM has new talking points out,
Soon, the copy n' paste brigades will be here to shame us with new talking points! LOL
exiledonmainstreet: "And now his daughter is the richest person in Venezuela and the country is headed for famine."
She, like all the other socialist "heroes", will end up being one of the richest persons in Switzerland or Paris.
#muslimterroristlivesmatter!
Hey, don't go getting on your high horse, whitey.
Because - Crusades.
exiledonmainstreet: "And now his daughter is the richest person in Venezuela and the country is headed for famine."
Not "headed for famine"...actual famine.
Which is why this leftist government has placed all control of food production and distribution under military control.
Can you imagine? The government can now use it's military to literally starve it's opponents.
The lefties here must be salivating with envy.
Well, to be perfectly honest we have one or two lefty droolers here already.
You know what would really be appropriate now? Approving the building of a massive new mosque in Nice.
In that way, all those horrible white Europeans would be able to listen one of the most beautiful sounds in all the world: the muslim call to prayer.....followed by the screams of gays being thrown off the parapets. But you know, in a good "muslim way", not an icky Christian way.
high quality troll is an oxymoron, but some do put in the effort, the reality is this a continuation of what happened in the 80s with iranian proxies, and the sunni GIA, which we discovered had ties to the cells of paris and brussels, interesting the last revelations suggest they had ties to egyptian jihadists, before the arab spring.
Terrorist at Nice was a Tunisian.
Somebody put out an APB for my buddy Althouse. Her last post was at 6:52 AM. Highly unusual.
Maybe she is adopting the Hillary strategy of hiding out? Why not put out an APB on Hillary? When will she do another press conference?
Pajama boys in NYC must be cranky.
It is now past tuck-in time.
Narciso, it goes back much further than that. Some would argue 657AD.
Others would point to the founding of the Muslim Brotherhood in the 50's under Sayyid Qutb. And to think that dear Sayyid was just pissed off about good looking chicks in 1950's Colorado not dancing with him!
The original bombers of the WTC were Egyptian MB offshoots. All these people are interrelated and the details of their various chains of influence don't really matter in the end. Keep them out, because one way or another they will be trouble.
Well, if Titus ever ends up being dragged up the parapet of a mosque and thrown off, he can take comfort in the fact that at least his murderers won't be fat Baptists from Georgia.
Cause that would be, like, so gross.
Perhaps the brown muslim terrorist is really a "white-brown" "Christian-muslim" terrorist.
We won't know until NBC doctors a few audio snippets and uses pictures of the terrorist at 7 years of age.
I think Meadhouse is on the road.
All ISIS has to do is rename themselves Muslim Lives Matter and they will have invite straight-away to the White House.
Again, in between golf rounds.
Has Hillary stopped coughing yet?
Quality of trollery in decline, what's with the ugly little bespectacled bearded guy? Back in the day there were at least some interesting trolls here at Chez Althouse.
Henry1944: "Quality of trollery in decline, what's with the ugly little bespectacled bearded guy?"
This is always the problem when volume is ramped up. It's difficult to maintain the necessary quality.
I miss Crack Emcee's unique perspective on these "all whites are guilty" events.
When the wise man points to the moon, the imbecile looks at the finger.
Annnnnnd a Giant Fuck You to you too!
Bless your heart :-)
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Henry.
Rt1 Rebel: "When the wise man points to the moon, the imbecile looks at the finger."
What if the "problem" is centered on the finger and the wise man is simply farsighted?
this was the recent angle,
https://hindsightis2020.wordpress.com/2016/02/26/a-few-more-details-emerge-on-dahmani/#more-329
daniel silva's latest tries to tie such a network to iraq, however he makes an interesting concession at the end,
"We won't know until NBC doctors a few audio snippets and uses pictures of the terrorist at 7 years of age."
He wanted to go to college! He was turning his life around!
exiledonmainstreet: "He wanted to go to college! He was turning his life around!"
Looks like we will have to drag Tom Wolfe out of retirement to write the movie.
Rumsfeld helped Saddam get chemical weapons, research it yourself.
That sounds like a wild goose chase into Chomskyland.
Anything that can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
and here is the rest of the story,
http://www.matthewaid.com/post/147338247781/new-details-emerge-about-the-terrorist-attacks-in
I see the media is already beginning the long arduous attack of moving on from this event:
Daily Mail: "Gun and truck terror attack leaves at least 77 dead in Nice: Bodies strewn across road after lorry drove for over a MILE through crowd watching holiday fireworks before gunman opens fire"
Wow. A "Gun and truck terror attack" where a "...lorry drove for over a MILE through a crowd..."
It's a shame no human perpetrator was involved. At least then we might have learned something about a possible motivation. But a lorry? Nope. Just a machine doing what machines do so I guess we will have to simply focus on those horrible Christians with their Chik-fil-a and their guns and religion.
Did you know some of them have been in the military and actually believe in individual rights? Now those guys are the "real" threat.
"He wanted to go to college! He was turning his life around!"
He was getting a scholarship to Harvard Law like all the Muslims.
Eric said...
"60 dead so far. Trump will be up another 5 points next week."
How is this possibly going to help Trump? So no concern for the dead, but joy that Trump's numbers go up? What is wrong with people?"
Looks like an observation, not a joyful celebration. A true observation. Trump will be up a minimum of five.
This deadly attack in France clearly means we need to ban assault rifles.
Damn, the East Coast Brain Trust, must be groggy.
No talking points yet.
Unless you count "Henry" just winging it.
LOL
>>Terrorist at Nice was a Tunisian.
Quelle surprise.
DanTheMan: ">>Terrorist at Nice was a Tunisian"
Well, maybe he was a "tea party Tunisian".
o Hai "Harold" RiyadhCathedral!
We will dutifully LOG your "concern"
The attack of the lorries! It's like how all those inner city guns keep jumping off coffee tables and shooting people all by themselves. You just never know when a gun is going to suddenly decide to fire itself at you.
>>Well, maybe he was a "tea party Tunisian".
Of course. And Donald Rumsfeld taught him how to drive, and Dick Cheney sold him the truck.
And Reagan once said something bad about Tunisia, so it's really his fault.
I sure hope this incident doesn't distract us from our primary tasks of combating global warming and using NASA to make muslims feel better about their contribution to space travel.
Who's next? "Hector"?
Tunisia used to be a (relatively) moderate, (relatively) pleasant country as Arab countries go. I had a friend who visited Tunis in the '80's and enjoyed himself. He said the natives were friendly enough and he did not feel any open hostility. But then, he did not know Arabic and so most of his exchanges were with people in the tourist industry.
That was then...
some of the larger pattern,
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-terrorists-target-france-2016-7
>>The truck driver was said to have shouted 'Allahu Akbar'
So, another Baptist false-flag operation, then... obviously.
Drago said...
I sure hope this incident doesn't distract us from our primary tasks of combating global warming and using NASA to make muslims feel better about their contribution to space travel."
Let us not forget the vital importance of making sure trannies are made to feel welcome when they use the ladies room and the dressing rooms in stores. We also can't take our eye off the ball when it comes to making sure a small order of old nuns pay for their employees' birth control. Priorities!
Good Christ, I can't believe these people:
CBC News : Children feared killed in Nice as truck attacks 'family event' http://ift.tt/29SvXHL
and you wonder how they got prime minister zoolander, trudeau, for those without the rosetta,
https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/753756313340051456
"The Religion of Pieces"
some information that relates,
https://twitter.com/rcallimachi/status/753774758001541120
Do they get "docked" a few raisins because they missed "Holy Month"?
exiledonmainstreet: "Let us not forget the vital importance of making sure trannies are made to feel welcome when they use the ladies room and the dressing rooms in stores"
All the easier for them to take video of young girls...unexpectedly!
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/07/14/transgender-woman-charged-with-filming-teen-girl-in-target-dressing-room/
If we don't let men who claim to be transgendered into womens restrooms with our little daughters the terrorists will have won!
“British Muslims Fear Repercussions Over Tomorrow’s Truck Attack,”
Breaking:
"Soros VPN Network swamped with inquiries."
Henry, Harold, Hector, NEXT!
Back in line Inga!
Shiloh, come back tomorrow.
لن تأمني بالأمان يا فرنسا وجميع اوروبا حتى نعيشه واقع في كل شبر من ارض الخلافة #نيس
— همي رضى ربي286 #منبج (@abomusaab_286) July 14, 2016
Oh France, you and the all Europe will never be secure until we will live secure on every inch in the land of the Caliphate.
-Just a note from your friendly local (Nice) moderate Muslim.
"He was getting a scholarship to Harvard Law like all the Muslims."
Laughed out loud, Doc.
eric is correct. We support Trump, but not blindly. I only hope and pray he is another Reagan.
But you people who support Crooked Hillary. Good Grief... what are you thinking?
Back in WW2, after the attack on Pearl Harbor, Admiral Halsey spoke at a gathering, he said, "WHEN I'M FINISHED, THE ONLY JAPANESE THAT WILL BE SPOKE WILL BE IN HELL."
Well, sooner or later we will have to make that same judgment on Muslim fanatics. A real all out freaking war till Muslims repudiate the Koran verses on Jihad, slavery, murder of what they think is 'non-believers',etc..
Say it can't be done? Well the Mormons rethought their religion after a short war here with the U.S. Government. And the Indians rethought it after a short war with the U.S. Government.
So it can be done. Maybe another Crusade. Maybe play some "Cowboy and Muslims".
But the Muslim religion has got to change.
Not a Religion.
Condi Rice, your country needs you. For the love of God and Country, please call Trump and accept before it is too late.
Hillary called Bill O'Reilly tonight to talk about how "determined" she is when it comes to terrorism.
You know Hill's feeling desperate when she feels the need to call Fox and talk tough.
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