February 27, 2016

"Despite all the forces arrayed against Mr. Trump... the party has been gripped by a nearly incapacitating leadership vacuum and a paralytic sense of indecision and despair..."

"... as he has won smashing victories in South Carolina and Nevada. Donors have dreaded the consequences of clashing with Mr. Trump directly. Elected officials have balked at attacking him out of concern that they might unintentionally fuel his populist revolt. And Republicans have lacked someone from outside the presidential race who could help set the terms of debate from afar. The endorsement by Mr. Christie, a not unblemished but still highly regarded figure within the party’s elite — he is a former chairman of the Republican Governors Association — landed Friday with crippling force. It was by far the most important defection to Mr. Trump’s insurgency: Mr. Christie may give cover to other Republicans tempted to join Mr. Trump rather than trying to beat him. Not just the Stop Trump forces seemed in peril, but also the traditional party establishment itself."

From a NYT article, based on interviews with insiders, titled "Inside the Republican Party’s Desperate Mission to Stop Donald Trump."

The most interesting revelation is that despite Christie's skewering of Rubio for his robotic scriptedness, after Christie dropped out of the race, Rubio reached out to Christie, to try to get his endorsement. But Rubio bungled it. He left a voice mail that included some sort of assurance that Christie had "had a bright future in public service":
Mr. Christie, 53, took the message as deeply disrespectful and patronizing, questioning why “a 44-year-old” was telling him about his future, said people who described his reaction on the condition of anonymity. Further efforts to connect the two never yielded a direct conversation.
Meanwhile, Trump "made frequent calls to Mr. Christie once he dropped out," and "the two met at Trump Tower on Thursday with their wives."

And doesn't that show the problem? It's not just that Trump has his posh real estate and well-practiced socializing skills to butter up useful people, but that Rubio doesn't have anything comparable. He left a voice mail and it was patronizing. He even had the opportunity to script the hell out of the message before calling and he failed to anticipate how his words would affect someone about whom he knew plenty. How is this man supposed to deal with all the many people a President must interact with in all sorts of planned and spontaneous encounters? How can GOP insiders have come up with the idea of everyone coalescing around Rubio? The only argument seems to be to scare everyone into thinking that Trump is a horrible disaster. But Christie's judgment refutes that last ditch scare tactic.

And, by the way, Mitt Romney won't endorse Rubio:
Mr. Rubio’s advisers were... thwarted in their efforts to secure an endorsement from Mr. Romney, whom they lobbied strenuously after the Feb. 20 South Carolina primary. Mr. Romney had been eager to tilt the race, and even called Mr. Christie after he ended his campaign to vent about Mr. Trump and say he must be stopped. On the night of the primary, Mr. Romney was close to endorsing Mr. Rubio himself, people familiar with his deliberations said. Yet Mr. Romney pulled back, instead telling advisers that he would take on Mr. Trump directly.
What's wrong with Rubio?!

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bleh said...

Ah, LePage and Brewer. The dumbfuck wing is coalescing.

bleh said...

Can a Palin endorsement be far behind? Oh wait, now that I think of it didn't she already endorse Trump? Man the Donald is sure locking up the thinking man's politicos.

Joe said...

David,

Answering questions does not make someone substantive. Reciting facts, or in this case, beliefs, is not a sign of intelligence, wisdom or anything. The question that matters is "what have you done." For Rubio, the answer is "I got elected." That's his only professional accomplishment. Hell, he doesn't even show up in the Senate to vote for bills he supports.

The man is an empty suit.

Sayyid said...

"For instance, when he stuck that shiv into Cruz. "You don't even speak Spanish!" That was brutal. Cruz got red in the face and started yelling in Spanish. And Cruz is a very unemotional guy!"

Honest question: is that how that exchange played to people who don't speak Spanish, or is Saint Croix being partisan? I could understand Cruz's response, so that wasn't at all the impression I got. He was talking loudly, but that was only because he was making sure people could hear him over Rubio. His retort was nothing more heated than "We can continue in Spanish if you'd like."

Fabi said...

Incest? Please provide a direct quote of Trump saying that he fucked his daughter or even a quote where he said that he wanted to fuck his daughter. Where is it, Begley? You're an attorney, an officer of the court. Is this in your professional code of conduct?

MayBee said...

Yeah, I think accusing Trump of making an incestuous comment is the kind of thing that plays into Trump's had. The fake outrage and over reaction to normal conversations and comments.

traditionalguy said...

The best new support The Donald got this week was a hire from Huckaby's campaign of its campaign manager, Huckaby's daughter who turns out to be a 100% able speaker for TV interview appearances.

She would be the best Veep candidate for the Donald. She is that good.

bleh said...

I think we might be in the midst a major realignment of the political parties. And no, I don't think the Democrats are safe. The blue collar nativists are the old Perot/Reform Party types. If they can move away from the ethnic aspect, they could attract traditionally Democratic constituencies.

Either they take over the GOP and push out the pro-business and small government libertarian factions, or they form a third party. The evangelicals and the war hawks will probably stick with the Trumpkins, if I had to guess. So I could see a party that's economically protectionist, anti-immigration, militaristic, traditionalist on moral issues, pro-federal power, etc. More skewed toward the working man. After all, what does a blue collar union guy (regardless of race) really have in common with a disabled transgendered government worker who volunteers at Planned Parenthood?

Three parties is not sustainable in our system, so at some point there will have to be two parties made up with significantly different coalitions than we have today.

Birkel said...

I say again, the people who claim to be "on the right" but would use the power of the state to control people's personal lives might react to the silly anti-Trump stuff David Begley offers. But those people -- the social regressives -- push us toward greater government control.

The issue is not Left-Right or Republican-Democrat.

The issue is centralized control versus decentralized responsibility.

Lydia said...

Althouse: I'm not in the game. I'm an observer, forever on the sidelines. I have been that kind of person all my life. I'm a writer. An artist. Maybe a bad one, but it is what it is in this, the real world.

AKA "cruel neutrality". Or mayber better: "Olympian detachment". Like Veblen. Maybe something in the water in Wisconsin.

Sayyid said...

"Please provide a direct quote of Trump saying that he fucked his daughter or even a quote where he said that he wanted to fuck his daughter."

I didn't bring it up, and wouldn't have brought it up either, but here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=47&v=DP7yf8-Lk80

Trump has made crude comments about his daughter in the past. I'll grant that they seem to be jokes. But they're super awkward ones that, as you can see from that video, people are creeped out by even at the time he says them.

Birkel said...

Sayyid:

"...if she weren't my daughter..."
"...if we were made out of candy..."
"...if tiny flying cows were to burst forth from my nether regions..."

Awkward and weird, I grant you. But he specifically excludes her.

And Trump is currently just ahead of SMOD on my list of preferences.

eric said...

Blogger Fabi said...
Incest? Please provide a direct quote of Trump saying that he fucked his daughter or even a quote where he said that he wanted to fuck his daughter. Where is it, Begley? You're an attorney, an officer of the court. Is this in your professional code of conduct?


Blogger MayBee said...
Yeah, I think accusing Trump of making an incestuous comment is the kind of thing that plays into Trump's had. The fake outrage and over reaction to normal conversations and comments.


This sort of stuff really pisses me off. I have a beautiful 15 year old daughter that I love very much. I tell her all the time how beautiful she is. I joke with her and the wife that if she weren't my daughter, and I weren't married, I'd date her.

And now I'm incestuous? If I met these people and they said that to my face, I'd punch them in the nose.

Birkel said...

Cute when they are toddlers and they want to marry mommy or daddy.

Weird after that.

Fabi said...

It's bat shit cray-cray, eric. How Begley thinks that this is helping his candidate is beyond me. I just hope that he and I aren't supporting the same person. lol

Joe said...

Birkel, I completely agree.

Chuck said...

Althouse, you really believe what Chris Christie says about an exchange with Rubio?

You obviously chose to believe what Christie said this week about Trump, as opposed to what Christie said two months ago, about Trump. You want to explain that?

And you expect me to accept some stray comments about Rubio's interpersonal skills, as opposed to Trump's stupidity, his lies, his exaggerations beyond the pale, his vague and implicit butchery, his recklessness and his personal odiousness?

I am surprised at you. You seem to be playing some sort of sophisticated political observer game here, but you just come off as clueless.

I confess, I don't have much respect for political independents. They are mostly selfish, foolish and delusional. We have a somewhat socialist party, and a somewhat conservative party. It's fine if party members would like to move their respective parties one way or another. But you really need to pick a side.

eric said...

As to Rubio, I don't think there is anything particularly wrong with Rubio personally. I don't think he is a good politician or would make a good President, because I don't think he has a solid core of principles. Instead, I think he was co-opted by DC as soon as he arrived and I don't care to have that in a President.

But why does it seem like there is something wrong?

I think it's because Rubio was fooled. He rose up and the Tea Party loved him. He went to D.C. and was co-opted. Then he ran for President against the Bush family. The Bush family probably tried to talk him out of it at some point. He said nope, I'm the new guy and I'm the it guy and I'm going to run. You pretty much have to have an ego to run for President.

And this pissed off the Bush family. And when Bush dropped out, he dropped out because he didn't want to be embarrassed in Florida by losing to both Rubio and Trump and they saw the writing on the wall.

My guess is, the Bush family still has a lot of friends, powerful friends. And when they saw the writing on the wall, they said, Rubio is dead to us now and he should be dead to you also.

And Romney got that message. Chris Christie got that message. A lot of others got that message.

Amadeus 48 said...

I'm with Althouse and Michael K. I don't think any of these people should be president. If I had to pick one, I'd choose Kasich because he has been a successful governor in an important state. I'm also with Meade: Romney was the best choice in 2004 and 2008 and would be in 2012.
Having said that, I think the nation will default to Clinton. I think she has the Dem nomination in the bag. The betting markets price a Dem victory at about 6 out of ten. She is clearly disqualified by the irresponsible way she handled top secret information as Secretary of State. She might as well done it all on an aol account. But her supporters in the press and among the voters dismiss her breach of duty as inconsequential. When the FBI gets around to reporting on her behavior to the Justice Department, the Justice Department will take no action. If high officials in the government protest (and I think there will be very few of them), they will be dismissed to the press and in the press as partisan Republicans or disgruntled employees. Those who think there will be significant resignations over this issue are living in the past. Example: "You know that James Comey is a Republican don't you? You don't? Well he is!" See how easy that was?
When such poor choices are offered to the American people, a majority will go for the most familiar person that the media and elite opinion makers tell them is a safe choice--typically a Democrat.

Laslo Spatula said...

Ok, OK. Remember: you are the ones who brought up Trump's daughter.

I am Laslo.

Anonymous said...

Michael K: "I am worried about Trump and whether he will just blow things up if elected."

Nothing wrong with blowing things up, as long as the right things get blown up.

Chuck said...

Conservative columnist Steve Hayes crushes Christie in the Weekly Standard:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/christies-disgrace/article/2001303

Michael K said...

I still think Hillary is dead meat as a candidate. I don't know if she will be indicted. I suspect that, if that happened, Obama would pardon her on the way out. Bernie is a crazy old coot and probably not viable past March 1.

I expect that Biden is warming up in the Lautenberg Memorial bullpen right now.

Trump is rolling now with a possible Gingrich deal.

Fabi said...

Let me get this straight: Chuck is applauding a 'conservative' columnist for 'destroying' one of this year's Republican presidential candidates? I'm laughing so hard that I'm crying!

chickelit said...

Nothing wrong with blowing things up, as long as the right things get blown up.

Just a little Trumpetarian "creative destruction" to clean out the stable.

eric said...

Blogger Michael K said...
I still think Hillary is dead meat as a candidate. I don't know if she will be indicted. I suspect that, if that happened, Obama would pardon her on the way out. Bernie is a crazy old coot and probably not viable past March 1.

I expect that Biden is warming up in the Lautenberg Memorial bullpen right now.

Trump is rolling now with a possible Gingrich deal.


That Gingrich deal is awesome. I was a complete Gingrich guy back in 2012, over Romney.

I've been supporting Cruz and still do, but Gingrich brings me a step closer to the Trump Train.

Bob Ellison said...

The lab report and the cat scan will cost $500.

Michael K said...

I'm not sure the Gingrich deal is on as that story is only one source,

I think Trump will start to attract realists in the GOPe who know where the levers are and which to pull to make things happen.

I have no idea what Trump's governing philosophy would be or if he has one.

It is still an interesting and crazy year. If Romney had won in 2012, none of this would be happening.

Obama has destroyed the Democrats. They have no "bench" or "farm team" to govern. Much of that is the fault of McGovern in 1972 but Bill Clinton actually did a competent job in domestic matters but he ignored Osama and that blew up 6 months after he left town.

The 1994 GOP Congress should get most of the credit for the economy but it was also a time like the 1920s when invention accelerated and prosperity was the standard.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Some of us worry about the country and would vote for a Democrat if one could still be found who was a patriot.

I generally vote Republican but would have gladly cast my vote for Jim Webb.

CWJ said...

"...and that blew up 6 months after he left town."

and in 1993, 1998, and 2000. But who's counting when there's a dot.com bubble to enjoy.

Michael K, check out my 11:20AM comment upthread of yours. We are in agreement.



walter said...

That deflection by Rubio, suggesting Cruz doesn't speak Spanish was really poor judgement. Even if it was true, it simultaneously showed him avoiding the question, insulting the intelligence of anyone aware of the concept of translation..and pissing off a whole lot of people who are tired of English having to sit alongside Spanish as an unofficial second language.

Freeman Hunt said...

"I'm put off by the desperate accusations that Trump is "evil" or somehow something like Hitler."

Same. He's not my candidate, but sometimes the histronics make me wish he were.

I do think he'll probably be the president, so I suppose he'll have the last laugh.

Freeman Hunt said...

"I'm put off by the desperate accusations that Trump is "evil" or somehow something like Hitler."

Same. He's not my candidate, but sometimes the histronics make me wish he were.

I do think he'll probably be the president, so I suppose he'll have the last laugh.

CWJ said...

Dust Bunny Queen,

My "Jim Webb" is still Evan Bayh. I give him credit for turning his back on both sides, giving them a piece of his mind, and not only walking away on his own terms, but resisting the temptation to jump back in. Still, I wish he hadn't . We all could have used him in the White House.

CStanley said...

I don't think I generally agree with Eric much but I think his comment at 3:20 was spot on.

To the extent that Rubio has a problem, it's youth, inexperience, and anxiety. The very controlled speech is a coping mechanism and the water drinking a tic.

He may in fact be too young and inexperienced, but if the establishment who coopted him had wanted to groom him properly and stand unified behind him, they could have done so. Instead, Jeb Bush became ambivalent and those who were loyal to him split off and Rubio's jitters have grown, for good reason.

Meanwhile Christie has had a grudge and decided to throw a flaming poop bag on his way out and is now mooning the establishment guys who chose the attractive Hispanic over him.

In other words, Rubio has flaws but they would have been surmountable if Bush and Christie's egos hadn't gotten in the way. But then again, this analysis assumes the usual establishment game was even winnable this year, which might not be the case. What's clear though is that they needed to play perfectly but they couldn't get it together.

Drago said...

Chuck: "Conservative columnist Steve Hayes crushes Christie in the Weekly Standard"

That may well sway the remaining 17 family members of Weekly Standard staff writers. Reverse preference cascade!!

And I say that as someone who likes Steve Hayes.

Drago said...

CStanley: "In other words, Rubio has flaws but they would have been surmountable if Bush and Christie's egos hadn't gotten in the way."

Actually, had Rubio simply held the line on immigration he might very well have been within about 1 week of being the presumptive nominee.

Alas.

traditionalguy said...

Trump is blowing up stuff big time. The boderless,, sovereigntyless, military less, leaderless area of the USA is on the line. And we have no one but Trump to win our country back. That is the issue.

Take it or leave it!

Ann Althouse said...

"What is your objection to Kasich? He's a moderate Republican with conservative tendencies."

I think he may be the best of those who are left, but he has no momentum.

trumpintroublenow said...

Doesn't the "art of the deal" require some respect for, understanding of, the views of the opponent, or at least the appearance of such? And isn't the notion of compromise and nobody being totally happy with the result also implicit in most deal making?

How do you square that with Trump calling everyone who disagrees with him about anything a loser or stupid or whatever. Is it all just an act?

As for Rubio, why he decided to go in the gutter the day after the debate is beyond me. Taking the high road would seem to be the best approach.

I can't imagine I will be voting come November. The only one that I thought had the character (if not the ideology) to be president was Sanders. That was before today when I saw he supported Castro in the mid-1980s (thanks to one of the commentators for pointing that out)

America is in most respects the greatest nation in the history of the world, which probably means the history of the universe. And look where we are at today politically. wow.

Unknown said...

Drago, you are right about that and I'm baffled as to why he got wrapped up in the Gang of 8. I can only assume that it was tone deafness on the part of the GOP leaders, to not foresee that the guy they were grooming should have been the last person to have been allowed to even appear squishy on immigration. So I have to add to my armchair analysis that the establishment is failing because of stupidity (and tone deafness) as well as the splintered loyalties.

cubanbob said...

Amadeus Hillary is the Democrats Nixon (without any of his virtues). Even if that felonious traitor and champaign communist were elected they lose. She would be the first president to be impeached and removed.

It's one thing to be impeached for crimes while president, its another thing taking the oath of office while already a criminal. The FBI director maybe a Republican but the complete disregard for national security, the complete disregard in keeping records for accountability and corruption aren't issues that go away and aren't issues that are ignored by even a large number of Democrats or independents. The bookies who give Hillary favorable odds should question the assumptions they start with. When the drumbeat starts in full force she will be DOA.

tds said...


- constantly fidgeting
- smiling in strange moments
- promptly switching to unrelated, memorized passages when answering questions
- caught scratching balls during national anthem at the beginning of last debate
- despite constantly repeating the same passages still unclear what the hell his point is
- he won't build the Wall
- running against Obama, but hasn't noticed that Obama is not running

Saint Croix said...

"I'm put off by the desperate accusations that Trump is "evil" or somehow something like Hitler."

He just got the Pen endorsement. I think Trump is very much like the National Front assholes, except he's way more of a cult of personality. I think he's exactly the sort of person who thinks giant posters of his face all over the country is a great idea.

He's Obama's id, except he's white and got a different set of people to blame.

wildswan said...

"What could the Republican leadership done to have prevented the rise of Trump? They could have done the jobs their constituents sent them to do."

We send the politicians to Washington and they ignore us. Then we ignore them and everything they have to say. We trump their aces and we'll see what happens.

We nominated a patriot - he got nowhere; then a skilled executive - he got nowhere. Now it's guy that can handle the media. We'll see.

Democrats and other vermin spewing over Trump, know this:
Sleazy stories won't work - you have to realize we truly think the media lies. IRS revelations - we truly think it's partisan. The FBI - we truly know it won't investigate Democrats. The world situation? - Hillary sold America and things will get worse. We'll have to pay for for her being bought but, vermin, please don't think we didn't notice your lies about her betrayal; and don't, just don't, think we actually care anymore what you think. Moreover, we think Trump is better than anything you've got. See? That's what we think of you.

Saint Croix said...

I know we're not supposed to do psychiatry from afar. But it's interesting to read up the id, the ego, and the superego.

I think of Obama as putting up a mask, trying to hide all his hostility and anger at the world. I think many people are recoiling at this, and gravitating towards Donnie, who has no mask. He is very id-centered.

I think it's good that Trump does not hide his personality. What you see is what you get! But it's a mistake to think he's honest or trustworthy. When he says, "I don't mind a trade war," I believe him. I do mind a trade war. Trade wars suck. Pay attention to the reality of what he says. When he says, "Maybe they're auditing me because I'm such a strong Christian," I don't think he planned to say that in advance. What he's thinking pops out of his mouth. I do that, too! So does Yogi Berra. But just because he thinks he's a strong Christian, does not mean that he is a strong Christian, or that he knows what a strong Christian looks like.

I don't mean to demonize the guy. Maybe the way to treat him is to realize he is a child--a big, overgrown, very rich and dangerous child--and try to help the guy grow up and be responsible. So maybe it's a good thing that Christie has signed up. I hope there are adults in the room that will give him advice and talk back to him. But the White House is a hell of a place to learn maturity. And he's 69, he really should have grown up by now.

traditionalguy said...

Trump is not a cult of personality. Nobody likes his personality anyway.

He is a leader that is willing to lead us. And he has the social skills to do it right.

And he is a winner that plans and acts to defeat enemies that want to eliminate us from the earth and take over North America.

Amadeus 48 said...

cubanbob--From your lips to God's ear, as they say.
One thing that is still an open question is that drumbeat you speak of. I just get the feeling that ABCNBCCBSCNN/Wash Post/NYT/USAToday will never let it start. It is darn hard to chase a Democrat out of the picture. Cf. Bill Clinton. There isn't a Republican officeholder or corporate CEO that would have survived those facts, but Bill left office on January 20, 2001.

Chuck said...

Fabi - We can all agree that Trump is running as an nominal Republican. He says he wants the party's nomination.

But apart from a uniquely nationalistic, protectionist, belligerent collection of statements, without any sort of policy record, THERE IS NO REASON TO TRUST THAT DONALD TRUMP WOULD BE A CONSERVATIVE AS PRESIDENT. There are good reasons to think that Trump would be such a weird outlier as president, that he'd be forced into cobbling together deals with Democrats.

I say that Trump is a lying, exaggerating, politically shiftless asshole. The guy who attacked John McCain (why?) and then General Pershing (!). The guy who says the IRS is auditing him because.. he's a "strong Christian"?!? Bullshit. You can tell that Trump is spewing bullshit anytime his mouth is working.

You seem to like Trump on the basis that he's a "winner." That he'll attract enough angry white working class folks to make up for all of the college-educated professionals who think that Trump is a freak. And don't forget the loyal Republicans like me who are VERY likely to hold their noses and vote for this asshole because we like making sure that Democrats don't win.

You are betting on Trump as a "winner." You had better fucking pray to whatever God that Donald Trump discovered sometime last September that Trump does win. Because I am going to be taking names of all the people who foisted this idiotic pick on the Party.

Mutaman said...

If trump liberalizes the libel laws, does that mean we can sue Althouse?

Laslo Spatula said...

"That he'll attract enough angry white working class folks to make up for all of the college-educated professionals who think that Trump is a freak."

The introduction of Paper Education as a Signifier.

That is why the critics of Trump fall on deaf ears.

It is always that you are not smart enough to know better.

Not a Trump fan: just observation.


I am Laslo.

Saint Croix said...

Nobody likes his personality anyway.

I think people are entertained by his personality. I think Trump can be very likable when he's not serious.

The problem is that he is running for a very serious job. And when Trump is serious, I don't like him at all.

That's one of my big concerns about the people who are voting for him, or are thinking of voting for him. They are not very serious. I think, on a deep level, they believe their vote does not count. The vast majority of Trump voters would never invest real money in Trump University.

Would you let him handle your retirement account, Trad Guy? Did you join Trump University? Would you do it if he offered it again?

So they are thinking, "oh, my vote, it doesn't mean anything. It's just a vote. It doesn't cost me anything." There is this disconnect between the act of voting and how much power it confers on the person receiving the votes. People are having a hard time grasping that their votes, in unison, give an individual a tremendous amount of power.

When I say, "I will never vote for that man," I mean it. And I mean it because votes matter. I would hate for my children or grandchildren to ask who did I vote for in 2016, and I feel the urge to lie about my vote. No thanks. My vote matters. And if I have to stay home, so be it. I already voted for one baby-killer, John Edwards, in the Senate election in my state, North Carolina. I asked him about partial-birth abortion, and he said he was appalled by it And then the son of a bitch voted for it.

Marco Rubio is pro-life, relatively honest, funny, quick on his feet. Why the hell would I look for the dark in Marco Rubio? I'm sure he has a dark side. He mocked Trump for wetting his pants. So now we know Rubio is a little vulgar, and is capable of mocking old people who have lost control of their bladder. Okay, he's not a saint. Neither am I. I named myself for an island paradise that I can't afford.

Anyway, I am voting for the Cuban, and I will not vote for a baby-killer, a socialist, or a police state waiting to happen. We seem to have more of a variety in this particular election.

Laslo Spatula said...

"...the college-educated professionals who think that Trump is a freak."

College-educated.

I defer.

I am Laslo.

Laslo Spatula said...

Saint Croix said:
"Marco Rubio is pro-life..."

What is ONE thing you comfortably believe that Rubio will enact for the Pro-Life movement?

Not a speech: there may be a few speeches, to the right audiences, after which he will equivocate.

What has he said he will do?

I am Laslo.

FullMoon said...

I am reading of established Republicans planning to detour Trump. These genius's going to be coming up for election again. President Trump will evil-eye each and every one.
Cross Trump, lose your fat govt. job.
BTW, simple way to attack Trump is bringing jobs back. Guy gonna have a factory job, and the dollar store will be the five dollar store, ten dollar Harbor Fright drill gonna be fifty bucks. We all gonna need a raise to keep up. After the raise, price of bread gonna go up accordingly. etc.

Laslo Spatula said...

Waiting for a President who can make a change in Abortion Law is like waiting for one who will lower the Age of Jail Bait.

Dream, baby, dream.

I am Laslo.

walter said...

"So now we know Rubio is a little vulgar, and is capable of mocking old people who have lost control of their bladder."

Hmm. I wonder how many took that joke that way. I took more like Trump couldn't stand the pressure of being criticized...not an age issue.
I don't think Trump's age rates as an issue..pretty vigorous and err.."high energy", especially when being a dick or unable to defend his actions.

Laslo Spatula said...

My Debate Question that will never be asked of either Party:

Is defeating ISIS more important than defeating Abortion?

Explain.

I am Laslo.

Birkel said...

Mutaman:

A president cannot change Constitutional Law as it pertains to defamation. Trump is, once again, full of shit.

cubanbob said...

Amadeus 48 said...
cubanbob--From your lips to God's ear, as they say.
One thing that is still an open question is that drumbeat you speak of. I just get the feeling that ABCNBCCBSCNN/Wash Post/NYT/USAToday will never let it start. It is darn hard to chase a Democrat out of the picture. Cf. Bill Clinton. There isn't a Republican officeholder or corporate CEO that would have survived those facts, but Bill left office on January 20, 2001.

2/27/16, 6:29 PM"

Let's put things in perspective. Bill won by a plurality in 92 and again in 96. His 'third' term didn't happen in 2000. Perot's mistake in 92 was running as an independent instead of as a Republican. Trump is a quick learner and learned from Perot. While it is true that the press is in the tank for Hillary what the press can't ignore is the Republican nominee attacking Hillary constantly for her criminal conduct. Imagine the debates where the Republican candidate throws Hillary's criminal and treasonous behavior at her face. Frankly for that alone I would vote for Trump although I'm a Cruz guy because Trump is just the guy to do it and he is the guy to cram it down the throat of the press shills during the debates. This year isn't 2012. There won't be any Candy Crowley nonsense unchallenged and there won't be a Mitt rolling over as the nice guy. And so far, the energy is with the Republicans judging by the turnout in the primaries. Hillary For Prison 2016.

Tom said...

It's not that Rubio is dumb. He's just not bright enough to be president.

cubanbob said...

Laslo Spatula said...
My Debate Question that will never be asked of either Party:

Is defeating ISIS more important than defeating Abortion?

Explain.

I am Laslo.

2/27/16, 7:26 PM"

ISIS while a problem for us, its mostly a problem for Arabs and Muslims. Abortion is a problem for us.

Guildofcannonballs said...

"Maybe the way to treat him is to realize he is a child--a big, overgrown, very rich and dangerous child..."

And how do you suggest we "treat" your childish Marxism disguised as concern?

Let me recommend a song for you, consider it a philosophy test:

This is a link you frankly won't be able to comprehend because of your blinding biases.

As you are anti-abortion I consider you worthy of engagement; your moral compass is only as clouded as Jesus will allow and don't forget it ever*.

*I am channeling Leo the lion of Miller's Crossing.

**I thought the damn artist was ZZ Top. I woulda lost money, up to a hundred dollars with a one, a lot of money to me, on a bet I would forever remember as one of the first cases of my memory deceiving me, druggedly no doubt.

Larvell said...

A better question -- why is Christie such an egotistical ass that he gets pissed off when someone tries to say something nice to him? I mean, if his endorsement turns on whether someone nine years younger compliments him in the right way, he really is despicable.

Unknown said...

The leadership vacuum is the fault of the Bush family for failing to mentor anyone outside their family for President. Having an old, ill man as your VP is no way to leave your party prepared for the future.

Guildofcannonballs said...

grown

adjective
1.
advanced in growth :
a grown boy.
2.
arrived at full growth or maturity; adult:
a grown man.

I don't know what "overgrown" is supposed to mean here. Any weapon at hand to bash the most non-ideological man ever to run for POTUS it seems will do.

Fabi said...

@Chuck: for at least the fifth time I've told you -- I'm a Cruz voter.

Search this blog's history. I've never endorsed Trump. You need to get a grip.

Fabi said...

Also, Chuck, tell me again where I said Trump is a "winner" -- or is your use of quotations marks due to some incorrect speculation about why I'm (according to you) supporting him.

You're 'taking names' threat reeks of desperation and you should be ashamed. You claim to be a lawyer, yet you're playing Internet bully? Be careful, please.

Michael K said...

"This year isn't 2012. There won't be any Candy Crowley nonsense unchallenged and there won't be a Mitt rolling over as the nice guy. And so far, the energy is with the Republicans judging by the turnout in the primaries. Hillary For Prison 2016."

Yes. I still think Romney was a far better candidate but he lost. A lot of his losing was the media and the weird Obama coalition that had a far better GOTV operation.

Trump seems to be already reaching out to GOP pros who can help him govern. George III was crazy but it was Lord North who lost the colonies. Obama has tried to run everything from the White House with a bunch of amateurs. His foreign policy advisor has an MFA in fiction writing. I read Gates book last week. Obama wanted him to stay on in 2011 but Gates was ready to strangle some of the White House idiots.

If Trump can attract a team to help him govern, I'm OK with it. Reagan was a self directed guy but he was the last such guy in the presidency. Both Bushes were honorable men but events dominated them. Clinton was smart enough to listen to Rubin on economics. Hillary is not. Obama is not.

Guildofcannonballs said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuSOJhNzuiE

This is a link you are going to copy and paste, and every time you see me comment here at Althouse, you are going to start playing the song in a different window. *You Apple users can go read Laslo if you can't open a new window in your damn Ipad, a much-underappreciated blog. Click on his name next time you see him around. I have offered to have his baby and the technology is there now.

Saint Croix said...

What is ONE thing you comfortably believe that Rubio will enact for the Pro-Life movement?

I believe Rubio will put a pro-lifer on the Supreme Court. My hope is that he will nominate a woman who is pro-life, somebody like Helen Alvare, who is awesome. (You might recognize Camille Paglia, responding to her!) Rubio has named a pro-life advisory board. That's how I first came across Alvare. She is my favorite pick to replace Scalia. Jezebel is already attacking Alvare.

Rubio is a very strong pro-lifer. In one of the debates he was asked about gay marriage and abortion. Watch the clip as he talks about the two issues. Note his passion as he starts talking about the media and abortion. There are a lot of Republicans who think abortion is a losing issue, and are afraid to fight that fight. Rubio is not one of them.

Rubio also has Abby Johnson on his panel. She used to run a whole bunch of Planned Parenthood clinics, and then she became pro-life. I've read her book, it's okay. Rubio has announced that he will defund Planned Parenthood, so I expect him to do that, too.

Guildofcannonballs said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeO4RF7eXBc

cubanbob said...

Chuck said...
Fabi - We can all agree that Trump is running as an nominal Republican. He says he wants the party's nomination.

But apart from a uniquely nationalistic, protectionist, belligerent collection of statements, without any sort of policy record, THERE IS NO REASON TO TRUST THAT DONALD TRUMP WOULD BE A CONSERVATIVE AS PRESIDENT. There are good reasons to think that Trump would be such a weird outlier as president, that he'd be forced into cobbling together deals with Democrats."

Point well taken and the reason to vote a straight Republican ticket if Trump is the nominee. A Congress solidly by Republicans is essentially a Newt Gingrich House of 94-98 keeping Clinton in check.

Guildofcannonballs said...

I still say the most pure beauty ever is the French horn in this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJgGs9WpGt0

Guildofcannonballs said...

Goldwater would have surely wrought more Sinatra and French horns.

cubanbob said...

Michael K without any doubt Romney would have been an infinitely better president than Obama but all the same he should have gotten in touch with his inner asshole and kept ripping Obama an asshole at every opportunity and gone after the press hammer and tong like Trump does. Since I'm resigned to Trump being the nominee I'm hearten to hear that Trump is reaching out to pros to fill positions should he win the general. That is stuff of winners-guys he ego isn't so big they have to micromanage everything and can't tolerate people who are better or smarter than them as long as they are in overall command. That's how smart CEOs roll.

Saint Croix said...

I wish in that clip Alvare would have mentioned that rape victims always have access to emergency contraception, even in Catholic hospitals.

See DIrective 36 from the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops.

36. Compassionate and understanding care should be given to a person who is the victim of sexual assault. Health care providers should cooperate with law enforcement officials and offer the person psychological and spiritual support as well as accurate medical information. A female who has been raped should be able to defend herself against a potential conception from the sexual assault. If, after appropriate testing, there is no evidence that conception has occurred already, she may be treated with medications that would prevent ovulation, sperm capacitation, or fertilization. It is not permissible, however, to initiate or to recommend treatments that have as their purpose or direct effect the removal, destruction, or interference with the implantation of a fertilized ovum.

There are some pro-lifers who dislike emergency contraception, because of the belief that it might be an abortion of a microscopic zygote. We don't actually know, because we have no idea the precise moment conception occurs. It's a mystery. We can only tell when a woman is pregnant at implantation, which is 7-10 days after conception.

I support very early abortion for rape victims, and I certainly support emergency contraception for rape victims. Rubio has been questioned about abortion in rape cases here.

Guildofcannonballs said...

"Let me recommend a song for you, consider it a philosophy test:"

FACT: IF I DON'T QUOTE ME NOBODY WILL.

Masturbation of forms sundry expand the pool of potentiality.

The answer though is A Song For You by with and for the ultraepicalways great Gram Parsons.

Guildofcannonballs said...

This is a link effective at levels psychologically equivalent to Crack Cocaine PCP.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Listen nobody is better than the 9th Beethoven.

Nobody.

But we all should be happy we are allowed to hear unBeethoven, unless America's culture and values continue to rule the world.

In that case, may I continue to reccomend the French horn of Frank's Moon River.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Heck of a good song, tell you what.

Guildofcannonballs said...

I am partisian in many ways, one being I think "The Middle" on some network and syndocation and whatnot, is, even with all the NBC retreads, and most perhaps because of the atmosphere that celebrates them to my praise here now, the greatest writing in pop culture.

Patricia Heaton?

Frankie Hick?

I know for certain America will survive even us and our sins, and not because we deserve it.

Guildofcannonballs said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob90L7Lh1lY

You ugly fucks aint worth it, but I am gracious.

Ken B said...

Althouse asks in disgust why the GOP is doing just exactly what she said they should do: get behind Rubio. She made several posts urging precisely that. Now, when they do, she wonders how they can be so hateful.

That's cruel neutrality for you. Republicans are shitheads if they do, and shitheads if they don't, and Ann is neutral about do and don't.

eric said...

Blogger Sebastian said...
"Maine governor Paul LePage and former Arizona governor Jan Brewer have joined governor Chris Christie in endorsing Trump. The preference cascade has begun." Wait. I thought Trump was going to dismantle the GOPe.

2/27/16, 2:28 PM


The GOPe are cowards. They don't fight. They retreat. They talk. The make promises they don't keep.

Most importantly, they take the path of least resistance. If Cruz or Trump wins, they'll bend over and accept it.

StephenFearby said...

For Independent voters, the Republican primary season has become a Greek tragedy, requiring a deus ex machina to resolve the Trumptarian mess.

Romney hasn't yet dropped down on the stage, but for the first time recently made his displeasure with the Trumpster publicly known by hurling a mini thunderbolt at Trump's failure to disclose his tax returns. (Trump's audit excuse was disingenuous.)

But that's not the point! Instead of, like Achilles, continuing to wrap his bearskin cloak around himself while absenting himself from the fray, Romney has at least opened up his yap. If he actually gets into the race in the near future, Romney could well be the deus ex machina that could deny Trump the required number of delegates for nomination.

From a Time Magazine article of June 12, 2015:

"...Romney said there was one scenario in which he would endorse sooner: in the event a candidate he agreed with was facing off in the home stretch with one he disagreed with.

“At that stage I might jump in and say hey, I’d like to go to work and help the one who’s more in-tune with the things I believe,” he said. “But I can’t predict how the process is going to work out.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham, Gov. Scott Walker, Gov. John Kasich, Gov. Chris Christie, and former HP CEO Carly Fiorina attended the weekend conference along with Rubio at a slope-side resort in Deer Valley, Utah. Bush was invited, but was spending the week on a foreign trip in the lead-up to his presidential announcement on Monday."

http://time.com/3920223/mitt-romney-jeb-bush-marco-rubio/

Of the invited lot, only Rubio and Kasich are still in the race, each so far without a victory and Rubio currently polling way behind Trump in his home state of Florida.

One could see both of these guys throwing their support to Romney in the near future at an appropriate time if they continue not to do well.

As for Christie, there's a special circle in hell reserved for smart guys who loose their brains hoping to snare a high level job in a Trumptarian regime.

eric said...

Blogger cubanbob said...

Point well taken and the reason to vote a straight Republican ticket if Trump is the nominee. A Congress solidly by Republicans is essentially a Newt Gingrich House of 94-98 keeping Clinton in check.


I can actually see Trump making this pitch. "Look, you gotta vote a straight Republican ticket. You gotta do it. It'll be great. We'll do great things. With more Republicans in the Congress, we'll be able to make America great again!"

Bill said...

Oh please. Christie was offended by a voicemail, so he endorsed pro-torture, anti-free press Trump? Mind boggling silliness. He did it because it was in his personal self-interest to be the first major public figure, other than Palin, to endorse Trump.
Why won't Romney endorse Rubio? First, it means nothing. All that will happen is Trump will brand them the Loser Twins. Romney thought it better to attack Trump directly on the taxes, and it has been fairly effective. And "what's wrong with Rubio" is that he has no traction in the polls. It is possible that Romney has his own rise in the back of his mind in a brokered convention. Or Romney will endorse him tomorrow.
I'm losing you on your swing to Trump. It's surprisingly thoughtless. And don't say otherwise if you think it's a "last ditch," seemingly insincere effort to paint Trump as evil. His son retweeted LePen's endorsement. This is not funny.

Saint Croix said...

How is this man supposed to deal with all the many people a President must interact with in all sorts of planned and spontaneous encounters? How can GOP insiders have come up with the idea of everyone coalescing around Rubio? The only argument seems to be to scare everyone into thinking that Trump is a horrible disaster.

You know all the problems there were with Winston Churchill?

"He keeps screwing up. Constant history of screwing up. And he's so war-like! Plus he walks around Buckingham Palace naked. Fat, naked old man, looks like a big baby. How can Churchill lead us? Oh I know there's a fascist and a socialist and they are very, very dangerous. I know that. I know that! But how can I trust Churchill? How can I vote for Churchill? I just can't. I'm sorry, he's an old fat naked baby. And those damn cigars. I hate the cigars. I hate Churchill. I hate everybody. I'm just going to be cruel and neutral, like Switzerland. Or Rush Limbaugh."

Anonymous said...

Certainly looks like a hostile takeover from over here. We don't see any difference in the way your two parties behave since they've had the same outcomes for decades. But then again your elites think everyone should have equal outcomes for unequal effort and ability. So did we for a while. then we discovered that to be rich is glorious. After your pTb gets thru the nomination and sets his eye's on taking over your not a labor party but pretends to be aka your communist elites, by demonstrating to your voters that he and Sanders have much the same agenda. At least as it appears over here, can anyone post a short list of the differences?. Maybe your dealmaker will pick Sanders as his VP? He's seen as the only way America can save itself from continuing down the path to being Venezuela. long live the American party until there's something differnt to argue about. Whigs, Tories, Bull Moose, etc.

He's looks like Andrew Jackson's reincarnation, not of either party but the first "Direct Representative of the common Man" in a long long time. No wonder every elite hated him. Hmm. anyone seen your pTb in a Hindu, Buddhist or Druze temple?

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