Althouse: "I think it’s important to do things like [the moment of silence]. We’re a connected world, you know

November 16, 2015

"I think it’s important to do things like [the moment of silence]. We’re a connected world, you know — six degrees of separation."

"I must admit, though, I was very disappointed with whoever the fan was who made a comment that I thought was really inappropriate, during the moment of silence. It’s that kind of prejudicial ideology that I think puts us in the position that we’re in today, as a world."

Said Aaron Rodgers, about a fan who shouted "Muslims suck!" during the moment of silence at yesterday's football game.

76 comments:

Humperdink said...: Well, they don't suck.

They plan. Then they execute.; 11/16/15, 7:18 AM
Sebastian said...: Ah, that's so nice of him. I'm sure Muslims will reciprocate right quick. They're big on opposing prejudice, after all.

Now if the fan had just shouted "jihadis suck," that would have been OK.; 11/16/15, 7:20 AM
rhhardin said...: It's the leftist weepy ritual.

Western values do not support themselves. There's kicking ass behind it.; 11/16/15, 7:24 AM
traditionalguy said...: Muslims have to put a veil over their women's faces to prevent this sort of thing.; 11/16/15, 7:25 AM
rhhardin said...: There's radical muslims, and then the majority of them who provide a comfort zone for the radicals, as Mark Steyn puts it.

Universal values aren't universal. They're Western.; 11/16/15, 7:27 AM
Rick said...: I heard someone yell F-ISIS. I didn't hear audio, are we sure about the reporting?; 11/16/15, 7:34 AM
Curious George said...: Fuck you Aaron. Be thankful that it wasn't Allahu Akbar!”; 11/16/15, 7:38 AM
Tank said...: Rogers favors a nice, but meaningless, ritual, that will make him and others "feel good," while actually doing nothing to highlight what is actually going on and who is responsible. Meanwhile, Muslims are planning to kill him, his family and yours and force you to follow Sharia.

I feel the same about my many facebook friends who've temporarily changed their facebook pics to the French Flag colors. Same deal. They can feel good for a day or two about how nice they are, but, if you were to ask them: shouldn't we stop all Muslims from coming to America ... shouldn't we be monitoring mosques, well then you're gonna get a bunch of PC BS. Then more of us will die.; 11/16/15, 7:41 AM
rhhardin said...: Science and the possibilities of technology are the first conditions for the factual implementation of the respect for the rights of man. Technical development thanks to the flourishing of theoretical knowledge through which European humanity passed on its way toward its modernity is probably, in itself, the essential modality in which the idea of the rights of man, placed at the center of self-awareness, broadened in its conception and was inscribed or required as the basis of all human legislation; which legislation at least thought of itself as being the rights of man in their indispensable oe hoped-for entirety. A rational discipline, born in Europe, could broaden out and be available to all humanity. Into a world that until then was felt to be doomed to an arbitrary play of forces that (natural or supposedly supernatural, individual and social) only counted in proportion to their power, in the obstinacy that beings and institutions invest in persevering in their being and their traditions -- there came the a priori of the rights of man understood as intellectual a priori, and becoming in fact the measure of all law.

- Levinas, "The Rights of Man and the Rights of the Other" in _Outside the Subject_ p.119

written long ago.; 11/16/15, 7:44 AM
tim maguire said...: Rodgers is right that it is not a meaningless ritual. And whether the fan is right that Muslims suck is irrelevant. The moment of silence is a moment of introspection and thought, a moment of unity, it's standard before a great contest or great battle to take a moment and mentally prepare for what will follow.

But one fan stole that moment from thousands of people, he decided that he, and he alone, gets to determine who takes their moment of silence and when. He sucks, even of Muslims suck too.; 11/16/15, 7:47 AM
rhhardin said...: The moment of silence is imposed by the idiot authorities. It asks for a fan who speaks for the indimitated.; 11/16/15, 7:50 AM
traditionalguy said...: Just wait until Hussain Obama rules the Atmosphere starting at Paris next month. Then the Muslims will have to ask permission to burn Christian captives alive. That should help, and that is ALL the Fifth columnist who has the US Military and CIA on a tight leash the better to sponsor Islamic Jihad will allow us to do.; 11/16/15, 7:51 AM
Bryan C said...: Coming immediately after a vicious attack by avowed Muslims, proudly celebrated by Muslims, and done in furtherance of Muslim ideology, yelling "Muslims suck!" is not "prejudicial". There's no "pre" about it - it's a profoundly judicial sentiment.

If you disagree with that judgement then man up and say so, but don't pretend that any judgement at all is irrational.; 11/16/15, 7:51 AM
Michael K said...: Nice to have a football player determine what should be done. I would prefer a movie actor but we have to go with what we have,.; 11/16/15, 7:51 AM
Heartless Aztec said...: I don't follow follow professional sports anymore particularly because of the intrusion of political stances and end zone dances. Is it to much to ask athletes and fans to act like you've been there before? In politics and in war.; 11/16/15, 7:52 AM
Unknown said...: Yes that's why they seek to kill us...because of our western prejudice.

This is going to end poorly if the adults don't stand up although shouting during a moment of silence should be a faux pas; 11/16/15, 7:55 AM
Laslo Spatula said...: After losing to the Lions the quarterback should be grateful that it wasn't "Rodgers sucks" that was yelled.

"We’re a connected world, you know — six degrees of separation."

A Loss is only one degree* of separation from a Victory, so he can feel good about that.

(*I refuse to consider ties in this context).

I am Laslo.; 11/16/15, 7:58 AM
Humperdink said...: Thank you Aaron. Gutsy. I will try to get you on my fantasy football team.; 11/16/15, 8:00 AM
Ignorance is Bliss said...: Humperdink said...

They plan. Then they execute.

Unlike the Green Bay Packers...; 11/16/15, 8:03 AM
Humperdink said...: Since it was one fan among tens of thousands, could this be called a nano-mini-micro-aggression?; 11/16/15, 8:05 AM
rhhardin said...: The last team to lose the Lions was the Christians.; 11/16/15, 8:10 AM
Humperdink said...: If Rodgers had any guts, he would submit a protest petition to the NFL for name change from "Packers", as in meat packers. Think pigs, think PETA, think vegans.; 11/16/15, 8:14 AM
Michael said...: Muslims, of course, observe perpetual moments of silence after their fellows massacre.; 11/16/15, 8:19 AM
rehajm said...: We’re a connected world, you know — six degrees of separation

Not as connected as you might think. Arron has a Bacon Number of 2, but only if you include documentaries and TV Shows.; 11/16/15, 8:20 AM
chickelit said...: rhhardin said...
The moment of silence is imposed by the idiot authorities. It asks for a fan who speaks for the indimitated.

I see what you did there and I approve!; 11/16/15, 8:29 AM
Gahrie said...: The fan was rude and should not have disrupted the moment of silence. however he was correct.

Aaron Rogers will be among the last to be executed though, so there is that.

At some point the terrorists are going to attack a football game. I sure as hell wouldn't go to the Superbowl this year.

We'll see what Rogers has to say then...; 11/16/15, 8:31 AM
Laslo Spatula said...: Maybe the jihadis can use Discount Double-Check Explosive Belts.

I am Laslo.; 11/16/15, 8:34 AM
Curious George said...: "Gahrie said...

At some point the terrorists are going to attack a football game. I sure as hell wouldn't go to the Superbowl this year.

We'll see what Rogers has to say then..."

If Rodgers is at the Super Bowl it will be as a fan.; 11/16/15, 8:38 AM
jimbino said...: Since the moment of silence is a form of religious exercise and since one of the effects, if not the purpose, of religion is to separate people into insiders and shunned outsiders, showing vocal opposition to a moment of silence under these circumstances is entirely appropriate.; 11/16/15, 8:42 AM
Known Unknown said...: Well, he did go to Berkeley.; 11/16/15, 8:44 AM
amielalune said...: Where did this "muslims suck" thing come from? The fan yelled "Isis sucks." Are our lefty friends not even able to agree with that? Mind-boggling.

I wish all of you guilt-laden Westerners who want us to commit suicide would go ahead and "off" yourselves and not drag the rest of us down with you.

Second best is the odds are high that if ISIS has a success here, it will be urban areas in blue states.; 11/16/15, 8:45 AM
Humperdink said...: A six degree change in approach to the ball from Mason Crosby and Rodgers might singing a different tune.; 11/16/15, 8:56 AM
Lehnne said...: Aron, pass the ball, hand off the ball, rinse and repeat; 11/16/15, 8:56 AM
Derp said...: Aaron Rogers will be among the last to be executed though, so there is that.

Nah. He will convert.; 11/16/15, 8:57 AM
garage mahal said...: Hello Wisconsin; 11/16/15, 8:57 AM
ndspinelli said...: Rodgers isn't brave. If he were he would come out of the closet.; 11/16/15, 9:09 AM
Char Char Binks, Esq. said...: After further review, Muslims still suck.; 11/16/15, 9:22 AM
William said...: One out of thousands of football fans shouted something rude. One out of thousands of Muslims killed as many people as he could......We should reflect on the bigotry of football fans and on the fact that most Muslims don't commit mass murder. Such reflection will make us better people.; 11/16/15, 9:28 AM
Mark said...: The next time the military asks for a moment of silence, no conservatives will mind if someone shouts. Got it.; 11/16/15, 9:34 AM
garage mahal said...: Rodgers surely by now is accustomed to the mouth breathing drunks in Wisconsin saying stupid shit.; 11/16/15, 9:40 AM
SukieTawdry said...: One should remain silent during moments of silence. I appreciate the sentiment, however.; 11/16/15, 9:47 AM
Curious George said...: "Mark said...
The next time the military asks for a moment of silence, no conservatives will mind if someone shouts. Got it."

Typical bullshit strawman. No one here has pushed back on Rodgers' objection to a fan shouting during the moment of silence. It's on his opinion that the content of what was said is why the world is thew way it is. That's idiotic. And so are you.; 11/16/15, 9:47 AM
Curious George said...: "garage mahal said...
Rodgers surely by now is accustomed to the mouth breathing drunks in Wisconsin saying stupid shit."

Could have been a Lions fan. Lots of muzzies in the Detroit area.; 11/16/15, 9:57 AM
garage mahal said...: I doubt a Muslim in Detroit would be as stupid as a racist redneck in Wisconsin to interrupt a moment of silence. Undoubtedly a Walker supporter too.; 11/16/15, 10:02 AM
mccullough said...: Like many Americans, I'm sure Rodgers has friends who are Muslim. What Rodgers said was appropriate.

Many progressives want guns banned in the US based on the actions of a minority. Many conservatives want to blame all of Islam based on the actions of a minority.

Not enough Americans cherish liberty; 11/16/15, 10:05 AM
kjbe said...: Ideologues suck.; 11/16/15, 10:37 AM
chillblaine said...: Fan was right. They do suck. And their god hates them. I mean, really despises them, by revealing such pathological, dysfunctional garbage. The west may be decadent, but the west will not tolerate death by a thousand cuts, and will respond eventually in wonderfully disproportionate measures.

Rogers should worry more about disguised coverages and the cover two.; 11/16/15, 10:37 AM
Michael said...: mcculough

I wish I could hear you but the sound of "all Muslims" protesting the massacre is too loud. Man, they are up in arms aren't they?

But high horse.; 11/16/15, 10:43 AM
mikee said...: The problem with third world religious fanatics is that they don't have the ability to kill off our military before we move from tolerance & understanding to a genocidal total war footing, which will result in the deaths of our enemies and a whole lot of collateral damage.

We can live with collateral damage. We have before. We should hope not to have to do so again, and try to eliminate the enemies without killing a lot of innocents. But at the end of the day, we can live with collateral damage if that is what it takes to eliminate our enemies.; 11/16/15, 10:44 AM
Curious George said...: "mccullough said...
Many progressives want guns banned in the US based on the actions of a minority. Many conservatives want to blame all of Islam based on the actions of a minority."

So you want to equate the actions of a few nuts to Islamic extremism? Seriously?; 11/16/15, 10:56 AM
mccullough said...: Curious George,

There have been a relatively small number of killings by radical Islamists in the US since 9/11, just as their have been a relatively small number of "mass shootings" in the US during the same period. I'd equate the two. No reason to curtail liberty.; 11/16/15, 11:09 AM
mccullough said...: Michael,

Get off your high horse cliches. Radical Islamists mostly kill other Muslims. You have nothing to worry about in the US, so relax.; 11/16/15, 11:12 AM
Unknown said...: Muslims are enjoying an interval of comparative tolerance just now. What's coming when they finally provoke the fight they're intent on forcing will be a great deal worse than insults. May this time be the last, and they never recover. No one outside their poisonous faith could wish any differently and be truthful.

Although I properly despise the Muslim faith, my view is benevolent compared to their suicidal defenders here and in Europe. I look at these people and just don't get it. We should leave the Muslims alone in their own countries and keep them there. It is insanity to sell weapons to them, even. The culpability of those of our own leaders who just will not keep their hands off of other people's countries is nearly as large as the cultural insanity called Islam. Even at this point, getting rid of the Muslims we've got here would be the easiest part of the job if we would leave them alone to cut one another's throats there.

As it is the multi-culti crowd in charge will exacerbate the steadily growing rage of people otherwise content to ignore everything further away than their own relatives until something much worse than the chronic internecine blood letting of the Muslims befalls them. This guy at the football game is one of those who would never care who blows up whom until the fools who import the Muslim poison force him to care. His wrath a billion times amplified will be the result.; 11/16/15, 11:13 AM
RMc said...: And the Packers lost to my Lions at Lambeau Field for the first time in 24 years.

Coincidence?; 11/16/15, 11:44 AM
Gahrie said...: How does Rogers feel about people walking in late during a moment of silence?; 11/16/15, 11:47 AM
Gahrie said...: Not enough Americans cherish liberty

You can write this after defending Islam?

You are either ignorant, on the side of the terrorists or a troll. (or all three)

Muslims not only do not cherish liberty, they actively oppose it!

You know, the whole submission thing......; 11/16/15, 11:57 AM
HoodlumDoodlum said...: mccullough said...
Michael,

Get off your high horse cliches. Radical Islamists mostly kill other Muslims. You have nothing to worry about in the US, so relax.

"Radical Islamists mostly kill other Muslims. You have nothing to worry about in Paris, so relax."; 11/16/15, 12:00 PM
Skeptical Voter said...: Cut Aaron some ideological slack. After all he graduated from UC Berkeley. The folks there would nod their heads and say, that's a good boy.; 11/16/15, 12:06 PM
Humperdink said...: Rodgers may have six degrees of separation from Islam. Not I. I am 180 degrees. As in diametrically opposed to the religion of peace *cough*.; 11/16/15, 12:08 PM
Michael said...: mccollough

Gosh, you go from virtue signaling to snarling. And if you are looking for cliches stop by a mirror.; 11/16/15, 12:46 PM
David said...: A moment of silence is just that. It's not a time for insult.; 11/16/15, 12:59 PM
Mark said...: Given his protestations, it sounds like Curious was the idiot who shouted during the moment of silence.

It's the level of his typical contribution here.; 11/16/15, 1:06 PM
DanTheMan said...: >>"It’s that kind of prejudicial ideology that I think puts us in the position that we’re in today"

Such insight. On the one hand, you have fanatics butchering hundreds of people like cattle.
On the other hand, you have somebody being rude.

Yes, they are both practicing prejudicial ideology.... and, therefore... equally to blame.

Dan
PS Actually, the killers weren't butchering people like cattle. They weren't as humane as a slaughterhouse.; 11/16/15, 1:18 PM
mccullough said...: Michael and Gahrie,

You have nothing to say. Just keep watching from your attic windows.; 11/16/15, 1:54 PM
Fabi said...: Nice to see that the lefties -- who have been recently absent -- have found their voices to grandstand against a single rude jerk. Did these same commenters have any opprobrium for the Paris terrorists? None that I remember. I'd say that's very telling.; 11/16/15, 2:20 PM
m stone said...: The moments of silence are mindless ritual, along with the hashtags and colored light displays.

The French people marched last January to commemorate Charlie Hebdo and Hollande said almost the identical declaration of war. Aside from the twenty bombs dropped and some police roundups, it's still the same.; 11/16/15, 2:53 PM
Curious George said...: "mccullough said...
Curious George,

There have been a relatively small number of killings by radical Islamists in the US since 9/11, just as their have been a relatively small number of "mass shootings" in the US during the same period. I'd equate the two. No reason to curtail liberty."

Since 9/11? LOL Dude, one group is just a bunch of individuals who are nuts. The other are large groups that have institutional hatred and a desire to kill. You are a moron.; 11/16/15, 3:02 PM
Curious George said...: "Mark said...
Given his protestations, it sounds like Curious was the idiot who shouted during the moment of silence.

It's the level of his typical contribution here."

Weak. So you.; 11/16/15, 3:09 PM
Michael said...: mccollough

Not in an attic, dude, but down here in the real world where my bullshit meter works perfectly. It doesn't need tuning when some virtue-signaling is in the air and when it is considered sophisticated thinking to assert that not all muslims are terrorists. down here in the real world the syllogism is that whereas all muslims are not terrorists all terrorists are muslims. And, no, fuck-ups who shoot up a school are not terrorists, so retain that insight.
So, I suppose I do have something to say, just something that you don't like.; 11/16/15, 3:39 PM
Gahrie said...: You have nothing to say. Just keep watching from your attic windows.

Sadly, I probably will as your Muslim friends put you up in front of the firing squad.......; 11/16/15, 4:18 PM
Laver10 said...: Although I read the blog everyday, I seldom read the comments. Frankly, I'm stunned. You should be ashamed of yourselves. .99% of Muslims are law-abiding citizens just living their lives, raising their families and working hard in the pursuit of happiness. I applaud Rogers, and I'm not a Packers' fan. And I won't even touch upon the crassness of yelling out during a moment of silence.

And McCullough is right. The vast majority of the victims of these scum are Muslims. To throw more fuel onto the fire, I think we need a new movement - Muslim Lives Matter.; 11/16/15, 5:39 PM
Mark said...: It’s that kind of prejudicial ideology that I think puts us in the position that we’re in today, as a world.

Another of the "blame America first" crowd. The attacks are our own fault, says this POS.

Thanks for making clear who and what you are.; 11/16/15, 6:08 PM
Gahrie said...: You should be ashamed of yourselves. .99% of Muslims are law-abiding citizens just living their lives, raising their families and working hard in the pursuit of happiness.

Watch this video, then get back to me:

https://youtu.be/Ry3NzkAOo3s; 11/16/15, 9:06 PM
Bob Ellison said...: Laver10, dishonesty is built into Islam.

How do I know you're not lying to me right now?

In Islam, lying is ok.; 11/16/15, 10:36 PM
Bob Ellison said...: And really, give it up with the 99% crap. No. If 99% of Islamists were for real, they would leave that crappy cult.; 11/16/15, 10:38 PM
Unknown said...: Gotta disagree - Muslims definitely suck...; 11/16/15, 11:05 PM