March 5, 2015

New Quinnipiac poll puts Scott Walker at 18 percent and Jeb Bush at 16 percent.

Here.
New Jersey Gov. Christopher Christie and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee are at 8 percent each... Physician Ben Carson has 7 percent, with 6 percent each for U.S. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky and U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas and 5 percent for U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida...

If Walker does not run, Bush gets 18 percent, with 10 percent for Carson, 9 percent each for Christie and Huckabee, 8 percent each for Cruz and Paul and 7 percent for Rubio.

If Bush is out of the race, Walker gets 20 percent, with 10 percent for Christie, 9 percent for Huckabee and 8 percent each for Carson and Rubio.
Isn't it strange that taking Bush/Walker out of the mix doesn't do anything for the other guys?

38 comments:

Known Unknown said...

Not blogging about Ben Carson and prison sex?

Amichel said...

Ugh, I just don't understand who thinks that running ANOTHER Bush could possibly be the best strategy. Madness.

Ann Althouse said...

@EMD I passed on that yesterday.

Sebastian said...

"Isn't it strange that taking Bush/Walker out of the mix doesn't do anything for the other guys?"

No. The others are not serious candidates. Christie is a RINO. Senators need not apply. Carson is Herman Cain in scrubs. Huckabee maxes out with part of the base on social issues. Only Perry has a chance to get into the mix, but he has to hurry.

"Ugh, I just don't understand who thinks that running ANOTHER Bush could possibly be the best strategy"

Ugh, I just don't understand who thinks that getting ANOTHER Manning could possibly get us a Super Bowl.

traditionalguy said...

Walker is solely responsible for this mess. He has been lapping the field like a pro in an amateur race, while the great establishment pontificators churn out long lists of Walker condemnation as weak praise of that silly amateur Walker.

MadisonMan said...

That Walker/Bush removal does nothing for the other guys means that people are wanting someone good, and the others aren't.

The sad thing is, as you have pointed out: someone has to be elected. Choices right now run the gamut from head-scratchingly odd to abysmal.

None of the above should be an option.

Michael K said...

Walker is still the candidate of the base. Bush is the money man but, unless Walker stumbles, he has little chance in the primaries and no chance in the general unless Hillary collapses. Then all bets are off.

traditionalguy said...

It would appear that his newcomer Walker knows a Secret Route...Garage is partly right. Walker IS the Secret Router.

Nonapod said...

Ugh, I just don't understand who thinks that getting ANOTHER Manning could possibly get us a Super Bowl.

Jeb is the Cooper Manning of the Bush family.

Seriously though, even if I didn't greatly dislike the idea of dynasties in American politics (didn't we have a revolution or something to escape nobility) Jeb isn't the greatest candidate on his own imo.

Wince said...

"New Quinnipiac poll puts Scott Walker at 18 percent and Jeb Bush at 16 percent."

Oh, percent, not centimeters.

Never mind.

Big Mike said...

At this point it's all name recognition. That will change.

BarrySanders20 said...

"The sad thing is, as you have pointed out: someone has to be elected. Choices right now run the gamut from head-scratchingly odd to abysmal.

None of the above should be an option."

MM,

It is an option for those who choose not to vote.

Your comment is apt for both parties right now. I'd say the D's have a worse slate than the R's. Imagine trying to push Hill as the fresh face of change, the jolt of bold leadership that our country calls for at this moment in history.

And if not her, then who? Algore? Maybe Jon Kerry will report for duty? The fake Indian? What a collection of dreary choices.

Bricap said...

There is no consensus second choice among either Bush supporters or Walker supporters, apparently.

chillblaine said...

Christie is too belligerent. Dr. Carson is more of a kingmaker. Jeb is a joke. Rand Paul is interesting because he appeals to the ascendant libertarian movement. Scott Walker is the guy the Progressives can't land a glove on.

Writ Small said...

"Isn't it strange that taking Bush/Walker out of the mix doesn't do anything for the other guys?"

There are a lot of voters with limited imaginations who only consider the current front runners. Those folks will move like lumbering herds to other candidates who get a little momentum.

bbkingfish said...

Bad two weeks for Walker. Back to just 18 percent.

Michael K said...

"Bad two weeks for Walker. Back to just 18 percent."

You wish.

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Anonymous said...

Looks like Walker has already begun his descent.

The more national spotlight and tough questions he gets, the worse he will do.

I really want to like Walker, but his answers on abortion, gay marriage and immigration are anything but comforting.

traditionalguy said...

Eric used to work for Japanese broadcasting out of Tokyo using the name Rose.

machine said...

"We are Wisconsinites who know for sure that our governor, Scott Walker, will never be honest with you."

trumpetdaddy said...

He just needs to stay in the top two with Jeb. As the other not-Jebs fail to gain any traction beyond single digits, those voters will move to Walker.

I remain convinced that Cruz and Rubio will decide sooner-rather-than-later that their future is in the Senate.

clint said...

Many of the single-digit crew are going to stick with it longer than you might think -- because they are really running for VP.

Mitch H. said...

Why another Bush and not another Walker - the last two Republican presidential victors have been George Herbert Walker Bush and George Walker Bush. I wonder if there's some sort of distant cousinage? (Ugh, google results on that question leads right into a bog of paranoia.)

Brando said...

It's very early on, but I think Rubio and Paul will drop out later this year to save their Senate seats and Carson will run for Senate in Maryland. Cruz will hit a low ceiling, Christie will have a moment in the spotlight again before some gaffe (mouthing off to a reporter, probably) or scandal (pension funds, maybe?) in Jersey takes him out of the race. Huckabee, Jindal and Santorum will go for the same voters, splitting them, and Walker, Perry and Bush will emerge as the establishment choices.

garage mahal said...

Let's take a closer look at those emails.

garage mahal said...

Or, a look.

tim in vermont said...

“What we have uncovered so far shows the Government Accountability Board, or at least its staff, being anything but ‘accountable,'” said Eddie Greim, attorney for plaintiffs in a lawsuit against the GAB. “For example, the public has learned for the first time, over GAB’s objections, that GAB set up a secret system of Gmail accounts for its staffers and the prosecutors who ran the John Doe. We also know that GAB hoped its ‘illegal coordination’ theory could even extend to allow it to subpoena media figures like Charlie Sykes and Sean Hannity.”

Show me the man, I will show you the crime, I think Stalin said that. It looks like the GAB believed that there was no such thing as freedom of association for conservatives.

gadfly said...

garage mahal said...
Let's take a closer look at those emails.

Gosh - yeah - it is time to look at Hillary's illegal emails.

Bob R said...

It's not strange. March 5, 2015. No One is a serious candidate. They are all on interesting/not interesting lists. Real people don't have contingency candidates at this point.

Maybe that will all change in the future. But polls like this tell us that it hasn't changed yet. People like us who get into this stuff are freaks.

chickelit said...

Paper currency has long featured both men and women from the nation's history, but up until 1909, only stylized men and women (as well as animals and inanimate objects) graced our coins. Lincoln's likeness on the penny was, sad to say, a bad precedent. But at least they honored his birth instead of the recent trend to honor men right after their deaths, e.g., the Kennedy half dollar and the short-lived Eisenhower dollar. The Buffalo nickel was a progressive's dream, honoring both native americans and an endangered species.

Tom said...

I like Scott Walker for president.

My favorite candidate and the one I'm closest to as far as policy and political philosophy is Rand Paul. But I think the best role for Paul is as a senator. If he can secure a long run in the senate, he can effect tremendous change in the country. I'm afraid his lack of being an executive hurts is ability to fundamentally transform the US government. I may be discounting his abilities -- but I think his best place is in the senate.

If the candidate is Jeb Bush, I'll vote for the LP candidate. And it's not because of any dislike of Bush -- I just hate the concept of dynasties in a democracy. We need to change diapers and political leaders at a greater frequency and for the same reason.

Michael K said...

"Gosh - yeah - it is time to look at Hillary's illegal emails."

Now, it is ten e-mail accounts. Popcorn.

Alex said...

If Walker plays his cards right he'll be lapping the GOP field by December.

Alex said...

Yes garage, let's put as much passion into Hillary's secret emails as you do in Scott Walker's routers.

Unknown said...

--Let's take a closer look at those emails.

I agree. A bunch of pimplefaced hackers should be able to crack her secret server and produce all the emails. Especially the ones from the big money Algerians, Quatarans, Saudis almost anyone who hates America.

Deep State Reformer said...

The Reps are finished as a national party at the presidential level. Who they nominate makes no difference at at all. Ill, NY, CA, Oh, MI, PA, NJ are gone: CO, TX, AZ are on the verge. The GOP can't win with what's left. Nominate Bush, Walker whoever the hell else, it doesn't matter.

Robert What? said...

The only candidate that would get me into the voting booth is Walker. If Bush is the nominee in 2016 I predict a Democrat sweep as conservatives opt out of voting - including me.