August 28, 2014

"The 10 Cities With The Highest Quality Of Life."

"1. Madison, Wisconsin."

58 comments:

Moneyrunner said...

I just received an invitation to accept my award as the number 1 XXXXXX in my state. The plaque was only $199.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

Unless you're black. Then it's the same old shit-give white liberals your vote in exchange for table scraps.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

Hell, if I was black in Madison, I'd hate the player and the game.

Ambrose said...

I bet that the presence of Ann and Meade contribute - in some small but yet tangible way - to the quality of life in Madison. I wonder if that put Madison over the top

WestVirginiaRebel said...

Why are the best cities in the North? (Buffalo?) Something seems a bit suspicious here...

madAsHell said...

Wow!

One post after Northeastern gaming US News and World Report we have a listicle with Madison at number 1.

No one knows the criteria, but.....hey!! We're number 1.

Don't you have a listicle tag?? I think it's missing.

Michael K said...

Madison may not be so good if the unions can defeat Walker . They sure are trying. They hate him because he is drying up the pipeline from union to Democrat.

Anonymous said...

Althouse has written numerous times about what has happened in the past when there isn't moderation: now we get the experience.

I have to admit: I wondered how long the freeflow would last until abused. I would prefer reading "Fuck" over and over rather than "Don't hate the player etc etc": less syllables, same basic content.

Sorry to reference my comment from last night, but: It comes down to this: assholes just can’t leave things alone. THEY. CANNOT. LEAVE. THINGS. ALONE.

rhhardin said...

Oh I don't know.

At the turn-around point of my daily 4-mile walk pic

seems pretty nice.

Rob said...

Lincoln. Omaha. Buffalo, Lubbock.
Kill me now.

Anonymous said...

Crazy Cut-and-Paste Woman says

I resent people who are not the people I don't resent. Small, small, smaller. It itches.

T J Sawyer said...

"To come up with the list, Nerdwallet looked at a variety of factors, including ...the percentage of residents with health care coverage..."

Whoa! Didn't they hear that everyone now has health care coverage thanks to Obamacare?

Anonymous said...

Crazy Cut-and-Paste Woman says

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Anonymous said...

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Alex said...

Best for white people, you mean.

chickelit said...

assholes just can’t leave things alone.

Where were you during the occupation by a single-minded commenter?

I mean seriously, what's the difference?

David53 said...

Nebraska and Lubbock have really nice people. But that's it.

fivewheels said...

"Nerdwallet looked at a variety of factors, including rent ... commuting ... health care coverage ... unemployment."

Well, that's one definition, one that has a bias toward small cities, as the list reveals.

Most of those I would not really call quality of life issues that vary from city to city. Perhaps this is my bias, but I look at something like health coverage and consider that something I bring to the equation, not that the city brings to me.

They don't consider factors that I would consider top of the list: Cultural attractions and weather/natural beauty. Hence, snowy podunks topping their list.

traditionalguy said...
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Scott said...

As evaluated by those highly respected city evaluators at Nerdwallet.

Who drew up the list over beers and chicken wings while they were waiting for their main course at Applebees.

On the same list, Buffalo, New York is #6. Which as anyone who has been to Buffalo knows is absolutely fucking insane. Buffalo also made #1 in "America's Top 10 Miserable Cities" by Forbes Magazine, an accolade that Buffalo has earned.

But hey, Nerdwallet says Madison is #1. Maybe they picked that one out of their butt too.

traditionalguy said...

Land O Lakes. Plus bike trails and a Dog Park. there could not be a better place to live, Except for the 4 coldest months of Winter. Maybe the Judges are Eskimos.

jake said...

I have never been to Madison save the last two days for a training at Monona Terrace. The downtown was very nice from what I experienced. I had a great view of the capitol building from my room at the Best Western. People were even lounging around on the lawn that I thought a bit odd. I don't share the city's politics for the most part, but the Mayor, who spoke briefly at our training, seemed genuine. Would return, but likely not in winter or during some Walker recall or election chicanery.

jacksonjay said...

Someone has never been to Lubbock. Not one mention of the feedlots on the southside. Sandstorms much!

Ay Dios Mio!

Scott said...

Ooops my bad, Buffalo is #6 in Forbes' list of most miserable cities, not #1. So go move there.

The Drill SGT said...

NYC claim to fame?

We beat Fresno???

John henry said...

Perhaps for white folks.

For blacks? Not so much. One of the most racist cities in the US by the numbers.

So what are you Madisonians doing about it?

John Henry

William said...

All my life I've been hoping to go to Buffalo to make it big, but you don't shuffle off to Buffalo. You take manful strides if you want to arrive there. I didn't dream big enough, and I never made it there. But it's good that such a place as Buffalo exists. That's one mountain Hillary climbed. It was her main reason for coming to New York.

Patrick said...

Minneapolis may be nice when you're young, but St. Paul is a million times better off you want to raise a family. Better neighbors, fewer hipsters.

Anonymous said...

Are these the same people who make those happiest country and 'most civilized' nation surveys?

Fritz said...

It's still a city.

buwaya said...

I've lived in Buffalo and often have to go to Fremont.
No.

SteveR said...

This could have been done with the 2010 Census and Wikipedia. Start with the question. Where do people live with the best incomes and lowest percentages of blacks and Hispanics?

Donna B. said...

I'm not defending any of the cities on the "worst" list, but... I've been to Lubbock TX and Lexington KY.

There's nothing to recommend either of them over where I currently live.

Happiness, ie, quality of life, is not mostly dependent on where one is. That said, you'd have a hard time convincing me to move to any large city, especially one in New York, New Jersey, or California.

Anonymous said...

Actually, Althouse, you and Meade could forego the trips to Boulder and Brooklyn (too many hippies and hipsters) and start visiting hotspots like Buffalo, Detroit, Gary, Indiana and wonderful Newark, New Jersey.

Where will the jobs come from? Who's staying and who's leaving?

Start doing some gritty expose blogging.

Or maybe do a walk from the banks of the Anacostia over to Loudon County VA and blog about what you see.

Normal liberal outlets would focus on 'inequality,' but you've got some special powers of observation.

Smilin' Jack said...

"The 10 Cities With The Highest Quality Of Life."

"1. Madison, Wisconsin."


As long as you're not there in the winter. But hey, that only lasts from August to June.

Richard Dolan said...

The criteria used to create this best/worst list is absurd. It starts with comparative housing costs -- low is good, high bad. Translated into English: the "best" city is where no one wants to live (low demand for housing being the reason for relatively low cost). Detroit would have scored best of all on that one. Same with commuting time: brief is better. Put in English: fewer commuters because no one wants to live there. And so it goods with the rest of the methodology.

If you want to measure urban environments that attract people rather than repel them -- the "quality of life" that people seek out -- this survey is not designed to do that. Instead, it takes a wish list of things people would like to see -- cheap rent, quick commutes, etc. -- but could only get by moving to some place they would never consider living in. And they wouldn't consider living in those places for all the normal reasons -- dull as dishwater, provincial little backwaters, 'no one like me lives there', no future, one industry towns, etc. The fact that people are not moving to any of the " best" cities on this list is pretty convincing proof that the methodology is a joke.

cubanbob said...

The list is a joke. Buffalo? And LA or Miami the worst?
Well maybe some sections of Miami or LA but anywhere that is somewhat desirable in those two cities beats the hell out the terminably frozen and deadly dull cities in the that top ten nerdiest list. Where is Crack when you need him? Those top ten cities are sooo white that even most white people can't handle that intensity of whiteness.

Guildofcannonballs said...

The old man sees a couple drive up to the home for sale next door and walk around. He walks over and exchanges pleasantries.

They ask him if it is a nice place to live. He says sure and how did they like where they came from. They say the town they came from sucked and their neighbors were douchnozzles. The old man says they probably wouldn't like if here, lots of nosy folks always gossiping about everyone else.

Next day different couple same scenario only the new couple loved where they live now and hated to leave their wonderful friends and family behind but had to for work.

Old man says they will love this house and the neighbors are all friendly and eager to offer assistance of any kind in order to bring peace and joy to themselves and their town, invites them over for homemade wine and smoked salmon.

Also: weather counts. And days of sunshine too.

Achilles said...

Places that suck tend to have lower rents. The criteria lends itself to places that suck. Thank goodness I don't live in a city large enough to be on either of these lists.

David said...

Overwhelmingly white.

Which describes Madison perfectly.

Roy Lofquist said...

The search for a happy place is a fool's journey. The happy place is very, very close. It's right between your ears.

stlcdr said...

Subjective vs objective. Some things cannot be measured by either. If they could, then wouldn't everyone be living in the liberal utopia measuring their quality of life?

lgv said...

I should move from Dallas #89 to Buffalo. Yet, I'm just not feeling the urge to go back to NY.

Maybe I will feel differently in February.

ganderson said...

Buffalo? Really? And, not to put too fine a point on it Mpls and St. Paul, while they each have their own city governments are part of the same 'city', as much as say, Manhattan and Brooklyn are.

tim in vermont said...

Is it OK if I like hipsters.. unironically?

They have great restaurants.

MathMom said...

They never put Anchorage on these lists.

It is, as they say up there, "only 20 minutes from Alaska", has all sorts of big city amenities, such as the Alaska Center for the Performing Arts, has a great mid-winter festival called Fur Rondy with snow carving competitions and the start of the Iditarod. Miles of bicycle trails through the town and forest (watch out for moose and the occasional bear, though), very few mosquitoes, and the Aurora Borealis. Whale watching. Salmon fishing right in town. Loooong summer days. Glaciers close by. Beautiful to look at. Snow that stays white all winter (no racism there...that is the color of snow) because it doesn't thaw and get all dirty and slushy, and they know how to plow so you can get around in the winter. Views of Mt. McKinley on a clear day. Good doctors and hospitals, and Seattle only 4 hrs away if you have something they can't handle there.

All of this, and easy commutes. You can get from most places in town to most other places in town in 25 minutes or less.

I love Anchorage, loved living there, and love it every time I go back.

Known Unknown said...

There are lies, damned lies, and listicles.

Tank said...

What is the weather forecast for Madison on:

Jan 10
Feb2
March 1
Nov 28
Dec 15

Good quality if you like is so cold you can't go outside.

How did Jersey City top Camden as a low quality place to live?

MathMom said...

OMGaia...I forgot to include in my list of wonderful things about Anchorage...Running With the Reindeer!!!

Writ Small said...

To come up with the list, Nerdwallet looked at a variety of factors, including the median price of rent (as a percentage of median income), the average number of hours residents spend commuting to work and working, the percentage of residents with health care coverage and the unemployment rate for the 100 largest U.S. cities.

median price of rent - Rent is low in places where people do not want to live and high where they do.

the average number of hours residents spend commuting to work and working - In depopulated areas it is easier to live closer to work. Why are these areas depopulated?

percentage of residents with health care coverage - Despite Obamacare, this is largely a measure of the employment rate.

unemployment rate - Employers are finding it difficult to find workers and salaries are comparatively competitive.

By the criteria chosen, the "highest quality of life" cities are those that have been relatively unsuccessful in attracting residents.

MadisonMan said...

I notice they don't include property taxes in the metric.

Curious George said...

"broomhandle said...
Unless you're black. Then it's the same old shit-give white liberals your vote in exchange for table scraps."

Not in Madison. Not enough to matter.

Anonymous said...

Do any of the top 10 cities have black people in them?

Jim Howard said...

It's clear that this 'study' was looking for small college towns.

Rusty said...

How subjective.
I would have said Las Vegas. Followed by Huntington Beach during the womens vollyball tournament.

Wince said...

Conspicuously absent from the index:

1.) Racial diversity, and

2.) Taxes

Anonymous said...

Madison is nothing but public sector workers and welfare cheats (but I repeat myself) so how can it be considered anything but a hellhole?


Unknown said...

what Writ Small said at 7:58. YES On their map I clicked my city (ranked #52) and looked at their criteria. Based on my experiences, yes anecdotal I know, comparing them to people I know who like it/ don't like it here I found none of their criteria had any relation whatsoever to what I know of the resident's opinions about the quality of life here. The people with the shortest commutes and lowest rents/mortages are the unhappiest. The ones who work the fewest hours are unhappiest.