June 5, 2014

The NYT implies that its "conservative" columnists are not influential.

"Stay on top of all the articles by The Times’s influential columnists: from Nobel Prize winner Paul Krugman and three-time Pulitzer Prize winner Thomas L. Friedman to the celebrated wit and wisdom of Maureen Dowd, the sharp political perspectives of Gail Collins, and the global vision of Pulitzer Prize winner Nicholas Kristof."

That's an excerpt from email from the NYT about its new form of paid access called "NYT Opinion." I'm struck by the unnamed columnists, the implicitly uninfluential, which include all of the "conservative" columnists (i.e., David Brooks and Ross Douthat).

I see the argument that the "from... to..." construction includes omitted names, but I reject that argument because to say that the quote above implies inclusion of Brooks and Douthat is like saying "from A to F" includes Q. 

(And as long as I'm here on the front page, let me preempt the comment you might be thinking is clever: No, it's like saying "from A to B" includes F.)

19 comments:

cubanbob said...

Its true, they are not influential to those who read the NYT.

Bob said...

They left out Charles Blow, also. RACISM!

damikesc said...

Obvious response: WHAT conservative columnists?

bleh said...

"They left out Charles Blow, also. RACISM!"

I see Jill Abramson's hand in this.

campy said...

The Times is careful to choose "conservatives" who are not influential.

tim in vermont said...

" sharp political perspectives of Gail Collins,"

How, oh how did she get that job?

Eric said...

They're not influential with the people who write NY Times marketing material.

I'm Full of Soup said...

From A to Z, the NYT columnists are walking, talking jokes and not even worth the keystrokes I used to write this comment.

The Crack Emcee said...

"The celebrated wit and wisdom of Maureen Dowd,..."

ROTFLMAO!!!

RecChief said...

well,
Douthat and Brooks aren't infulential in conservative circles. And because they're labeled 'conservative' by the NYT, I'm sure most NYT readers don't read their columns. So why would they be included in a list of influential columnists?

Douglas B. Levene said...

If the Times had wanted to have an influential conservative columnist, it would have hired Steyn or Will or Krauthamer. It didn't and so it doesn't.

Sigivald said...

What cubanbob said.

(That and self-identified "conservatives" in the real wrold rarely consider the "conservative" Times columnists actually "conservative".

"Conservative compared to the average Times columnist", sure.

Steve M. Galbraith said...

Douthat is really quite good but he still hasn't gotten the "rhythm" of the limited space he has. He also has the problem of writing for a liberal audience and he has to explain ideas they've never been exposed to. He has to teach as much as lecture.

And I believe he's just 35?

Buckley on why he wrote for Playboy: "They have bibles in whorehouses."

Quaestor said...

I got the same junk in my inbox this morning. The when I got to "the celebrated wit and wisdom of Maureen Dowd" I blew Cheerios out my nose thinking of a new answer to an old riddle: What is the smallest book in the world?

Fernandinande said...

Nobel Prize winner Paul Krugman

Even though the Sveriges Riksbank Prize isn't a Nobel prize, that's pretty sad.

Sam L. said...

That would be a true statement by the NYT. How did THAT happen?

William said...

The paper has really hit the skids since Jill left.

PeterJ said...

"... the celebrated wit and wisdom of Maureen Dowd..."
Yes. Of course.

Michael K said...

Maybe they should hire Michelle. After her Senate term of course . She has many of the perquisites down pat. Free trips to China, expensive vacations, no knowledge of law.

Hey, it's the feminist thing !