April 5, 2014

"I think there is a gay mafia. I think if you cross them, you do get whacked."

Said Bill Maher, on the "Overtime" portion of his HBO show "Real Time," and this really annoys me, because I watched the whole damned show last night, hoping he'd do this issue, and the show was pretty bad and boring, never getting to this issue, and now I see it was dumped in the on-line only part?!

How did that happen? Hmm??? I suspect The Gay Mafia!

50 comments:

YoungHegelian said...

What?! Of course, he didn't discuss it. You think Maher wants to get whacked?

Can't talk now! We've already said too much. Titus may be intercepting our IP traffic....

Chris Lopes said...

You have to admit, he demonstrated their power pretty effectively.

rhhardin said...

It's an effect of the media narrative.

The narrative is whatever draws an audience.

The audience you can draw to TV day-in and day-out isn't very bright.

But they pay the bills. You sell them to advertisers.

So gay marriage is just a solution to people feeling sad, rather than making the idea of marriage unthinkable.

Unless you call it marriage marriage, for as long as people can remember it.

Sorun said...

Hell hath no fury like a gay man scorned.

jr565 said...

The gay mafia is like the two gay dudes that intimidate Kramer and take the armoire he's watching for Elaine on the street
(Soup Nazi episode) They're very intimidating.

mccullough said...

Was Alec Baldwin whacked by the gay mafia?

Renee said...

There's a mafia, but I dont think it from the average person who is gay. You linked an article awhile ago that Hollywood doesn't represent the diverse gay community

FleetUSA said...

I expect this tactic to reappear in elections as well soon. Hateful. Gestapo tactics.

Alex said...

Even Andrew Sullivan was horrified by the hounding out of Eich. When you lose Andrew f-en Sullivan, you know things are bad.

Moose said...

Its amazing what specious gases are emitted from Maher...

rhhardin said...

We need a national conversation about queers.

Donald Douglas said...

I stopped watching Maher some time ago. And to think, I used to enjoy him way back when he was on ABC.

Roost on the Moon said...

Here's the problem with the Gay Mafia analogy: The "gay mafia" can't order hits, they can't strategize. If they could, they'd go after a more deserving target than Brendan Eich.

It's the same with the #cancelcolbert people, and its the same problem the tea party has, or Glenn Beck or any emotional-frenzy-based constituency- you can't focus them, you can only whip up a frenzy and ride it out.

Brendan Eich got taken down because he didn't have a company or a political party behind him. He was weak, and he got bullied by a self-righteous mob. But they can't control it.

I doubt Maher's scared. It's easy to get lots of people to bitch about something on twitter. You probably can't get them to boycott Game of Thrones.

Michael K said...

Maher is no dummy, even if he plays one on TV. The kids who watch him don't know about fascism.

chillblaine said...

Gay Mafia? Gives a whole new meaning to the term, "Going to the mattresses."

Michael K said...

"its the same problem the tea party has, or Glenn Beck or any emotional-frenzy-based constituency- you can't focus them, you can only whip up a frenzy and ride it out."

Says someone who does not understand the Tea Party. It is a group of people who understand where the country is going and are trying to figure out how to turn it around. A lot of it is education about politics, not the newspaper and blog kind but the nuts and bolts kind. That's why the professional politicians are scared shitless of them. If they (we) ever find the controls, they will be in big trouble.

SteveR said...

Its kind of funny, Mahar loves those people, they hate the same people right? Power does that.

Heyooyeh said...

Yeah, the gay mafia made up of a bunch if little gay boys who get picked on everyday and treated like crap and suffer physical violence at the hands of a bunch idiots are really powerful.

Scott M said...

I was in a conversation with a friend of mine and had no idea that he knew novelist and futurist David Brin. My buddy is a gay conservative and pretty much agrees with Andrew Sullivan on the Eich "resigning".

I showed Brin the Mahar clip and here's his response.

"What a load. It is a commercial company that fears its goodwill has been poisoned by an employee and has made a capitalist value judgement to choose goodwill with millions of customers over a questionable choice by an earlier board.

In other words, you guys are dopes. You hypocritically claim to support capitalism without even understanding a thing about it. This had ZERO to do with "rainbow mafias". yeesh"

Anonymous said...

I crossed the gay Mafia once and woke up with the severed head of a rare clumber in my bed.

JRoberts said...

"I expect this tactic to reappear in elections as well soon. Hateful. Gestapo tactics."

This.

Except instead of wearing brown shirts, they'll be wearing... oh, nevermind...

The Godfather said...

I have it on good authority that in olden times (i.e., my youth), Italian-American kids ALWAYS claimed to have an uncle in the Mafia. Being "connected" was a good way to claim street cred, and perhaps protection.

I suspect there are plenty of gays who love the idea that straight people think there's a gay mafia (and this is entirely aside from the great fashion possibilities).

MayBee said...

I don't know who David Brin is or why I should value his opinion, even though he put it so thoughtfully.

However, I doubt Mozilla took the time to understand what it's customers wanted. They responded to backlash they thought they had, without ever even trying to defend Eich. There's no telling if they've hurt themselves more by dumping him, but I'm sure their response felt good in the moment.

Titus said...

Of course there is a gay mafia. We have money, power and influence. And we were some of Obama's biggest bundlers. bundle, bundle.

But I don't think this person should of been fired.

tits.

Anonymous said...

Gay Mafia? Gives a whole new meaning to the term, "Going to the mattresses."

Not to mention "made man".

rhhardin said...

Belmont Club weighs in.

"Much of the shock following the removal of Brendan Eich from the position of Mozilla CEO came from the realization that, in a manner of speaking, America was now at war. True it’s a culture war, not a physical conflict. But if you were waiting for the moment when the Cold Civil War actually begins, this might be it..."

Anonymous said...

If you've ever seen The Postman you should know that (1) David Brin wrote the novel, and (2) it deserved no better.

Michael K said...

""What a load. It is a commercial company that fears its goodwill has been poisoned by an employee and has made a capitalist value judgement to choose goodwill with millions of customers over a questionable choice by an earlier board."

I guess we will find out where the "goodwill" is. This guy is a pioneer and probably indispensable to Mozilla. There is a history of companies making bad choices. John Sculley made one.

Sculley said he didn't have the business expertise at the time to fully understand what visionary leadership was. "What would have happened if we hadn't have had that showdown?...I did not have the breadth of experience at that time to really appreciate just how different leadership is when you are shaping an industry," Sculley said

This may be another example.

n.n said...

The homosexual community is a victim of the homosexual mafia. The alternative narratives proposed and promoted by the homosexual mafia have, over time, been exposed as fraudulent and, ironically, dispelled with prejudice. The individual was never an issue, other than in the exception.

I wonder what other "icky" behaviors await normalization.

n.n said...

rhhardin:

It's more than a "cultural" war. This war claims around one million victims each and every year. That is one million Obamas, Reids, and Sullivans who are executed with a scalpel or poison, then flushed down a toilet or otherwise discarded.

Illuninati said...

"The term "negativity bias" reveals Hibbing's own bias, because one could just as well characterize the same phenomenon as positivity toward the world one lives in and has known over time."

Gay Mafia? What is he talking about? Personally, I don't see much in common between the gay bully boys and the Mafia.

tim in vermont said...

"Yeah, the gay mafia made up of a bunch if little gay boys who get picked on everyday and treated like crap and suffer physical violence at the hands of a bunch idiots are really powerful. "

Do you actually know and young gay people today? I do, more than a couple, through my daughter's friendships, and I just don't think it is like that anymore, but I do understand how the grievance industry wants to pretend that it is.

PB Reader said...

Not to dispute the "great" Bill Maher, because I know he wouldn't want to be insensitive or anything, but doesn't "gay" only refer to homosexual men these days, while the female homosexuals insist on lesbian? Isn't the ever expanding acronym start with L and then G followed by an ever changing set of letters that no one can accurately get correct?

I mean, if you're going to be afraid of anyone, I think it might be the lesbian mafia, or one of those other mysterious groups and their storm troopers.

chickenlittle said...

If there really is a gay mafia, who is the mafia Don?

Who's the pressure point? The opposition needs names.

rcommal said...

Maher's tired--and by that I mean personally: He, personally, is tired. That's something worth paying attention to.

rcommal said...

Andrew Sullivan is still ever seeking a counterweight for both and also what he expected and condemned before, over time.

Garbage Mahal said...

"If there really is a gay mafia, who is the mafia Don?"

Neal and Bob.

rcommal said...

And that's it: That's all.

Heyooyeh said...

@tim in Vermont. The "grievance industry" didn't create the environment in which young gay people grow up. For some edification, take a few moments to visit nohomophobes.com. You'll see that the environment young gay people grow up, as evidenced by the public tweets of their peers, in is not an HRC banquet dinner.

Also, the gay mafia, which I guess means rich gay people who worked hard to become successful and exert their hardwon power to fight anti-gay practices (which seems totally reasonable), didn't get this guy fired. Okcupid did, essentially, by making news with their request that users not access their site via Firefox -- okcupid isn't a company run by gays.

Glen Wishard said...

It isn't a "gay mafia". It's the same assortment of PC busybodies who have taken the mental hygiene of the world into their own hands.

smitty1e said...

How did that happen? Hmm??? I suspect The Gay Mafia!

No one expects the Spandex Inquisition!

chickenlittle said...

Also, the gay mafia, which I guess means rich gay people who worked hard to become successful and exert their hardwon power to fight anti-gay practices (which seems totally reasonable), didn't get this guy fired.

No, now you're spreading the blame. Who is the person who makes the phone call to get someone like Eich fired? Who makes the phone call pressuring Duck Dynasty?

I refuse to believe that this is a conference call involving more than a few people.

Who are they. Who is the McCarthy behind this nonsense?

chickenlittle said...

Also, the gay mafia, which I guess means rich gay people who worked hard to become successful and exert their hardwon power to fight anti-gay practices (which seems totally reasonable), didn't get this guy fired.

Also, if these are business people -- these gay mafia bullies -- what companies do they work for? If you're a straight person, would you want to work for the sort of person who would get an otherwise talented person like Eich fired?

tim in vermont said...

Heyooyah,

I see now that only gay children have issues with their peers while growing up. I hadn't realized that before. I am now OK with this kind of tactic.

On the one hand, I can see that it was justified, and on the other, I can see how gays had nothing to do with it. It is amazing.

Next I suggest you guys start burning libraries. They are full of books by people who take the view of marriage that had been held by nearly the entire human race for as long as there has been a human race. It has to be done. Don't worry about the tactic and how it appears. You are defenders of the one true faith.

While you are at it, I suggest you stop using the internet. You see, if you look at the source on the page you are viewing, you will, except in the case of the simplest pages, see javascript. Javascript was invented by the very anti-gay bigot that was hounded from his job. It is ubiquitous. I can't believe that you would use a medium that depends on this fiend's work.

Isn't that kind of like using an anatomy book filled with drawings made by the Nazis of the human body? Beyond the pale? Or does this only go as far as is convenient for you guys?

Fiftyville said...

"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. And the rainbow jello. And the carrot cake. And the tiramisu. And those darling little cupcakes! They're F-A-A-A-A-A-bulous!"

Fernandinande said...

hoping he'd do this issue,

Why? Why care what that guy claims to think?

the show was pretty bad and boring

You omitted smug, irritating and very trivial. (I actually watched a few minutes of it long ago.)

Anthony said...

Mozilla corp certainly has the right to choose who will work for them and in what capacity, and I'm glad the left agrees. But let's not hear anymore about the "brave heroes" of the Hollywood Blacklist, who were fired or denied work because of their objectionable, oppressive political actions.

Leit Bart said...

@fiftyville's comment -- mentioning cupcakes and tiramisu -- reminded me of that book from the early '80s: "Real Men Don't Eat Quiche." The guys who wrote it would be drawn and quartered in this day and age, assuming they could even get it published.

http://www.amazon.com/Real-Men-Dont-Eat-Quiche/dp/0671448315/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Maybe it's time for "Real Gays Eat Red Meat." Although after the Eich ouster, that's fairly self-evident.

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Savanarola is with us again. As usual, he has an eager cohort of enforcers.

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