May 8, 2013
"House Hearing on U.S. Consulate Attack in Benghazi, Libya."
"The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee conducts a hearing with Foreign Service officers focusing on information turned over to the committee by administration whistle-blowers on the Benghazi terrorist attacks." Live streaming here — on C-Span3, beginning in a few minutes.
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 800 of 887 Newer› Newest»What's really despicable as well will be the inevitable destruction of Mr. Hick's reputation and career all in order to protect Hillary's viability.
Inevitable.
Alexandria said...
A goodly number of these comments seem to be obsessing over one commenter or another, boring beyond belief.
the old Lefty trick:
Throw as many lies as you can out there so the other side can't counter them all.
Some of them will stick in the "minds" of the low info voters.
If that's the She Devil of the SS up there, she knows that, but it's worth remembering why we don't let Ritmo and phx and the mindless automaton and the rest of the psychotics get away with it.
Oh no, the NYT is sniffing the air, and Hillary stinks!
Is it possible that Ritmo is also Batamax 3000?
Sometimes things are what they seem.
"2:00 a.m. Funny, that."
If it had been 3:00 a.m. she'd have been ready.
What will Hillary's slogan be in 2016?
How about...
Incompetence, But No Cover-Up
Some nights I'm better at finding and engaging the sane ones amidst the perpetually angry and aggrieved
How bizarre that the least sane or civil person on the site manages to convince himself of his superiority. It just shows there's no limit to what the insane can convince themselves is true.
But why?
CEO: According to the paragraph:
...she wanted to use the permanent post as a symbol of goodwill.
Which I don't find satisfying either, but might make a kind of sense with more context. Or maybe not.
I understand perfectly well, Ritmo. You quoted Dante's comment at least a dozen times to smear all Republicans with the shameful and contemptible thing that one of them had supposedly said. I carefully explained (8:29pm) that you very likely misunderstood what he was trying to say and now you refuse to address my comment. An honest man would address my argument, but I have found in the past that you are not an honest man, and your behavior here simply proves once more what you have proven many times before, that you're a hack, a shill, a liar, and a goddamned fool if you think anyone here except Inga doesn't already know that. Go ahead and use my insults as an excuse for your pathetic failure to address my argument, and your refusal to apologize to Dante and all Republicans for repeatedly slandering them. It's what we expect from you.
I see a lot of the posts have been removed by the blog administrator, did Meade or Ann finally pull the plug on uber troll?
"...all in order to protect Hillary's viability."
Is she viable?
If I were in charge of the opposition I'd loop a video of her saying "What difference, at this point, does it make?" over and over and over again.
At that point it wouldn't even matter what she was talking about at the time. The time for making a difference is over according to Hillary. It's too late.
With some message discipline it ought to work about as well as The Doctor saying... "Don't you think she looks tired?"
Quite a remarkable day, especially Gregory Hicks.
The Democrats and the media may manage to keep the story down, but a gaping hole in the Obama administration has been torn open sufficiently wide that history won't ignore the deceit.
Wait a minute... Let me play devils advocate the way it should be done and not the pabulum tower of babel ritmo dances to.
They demoted Hick and yet expected him to pipe up about anything that might have gone wrong that could point the finger to Hillary?
Put on your thinking caps people!
Other than revenge... why would these guys come forward with these extraordinary stories?
Aren't these just Male Bimbo Eruptions?...
(that's from the Clintons playbook - for those of you that forgot)
I don't even bother to dislike Hillary Clinton any more because what difference, at this point, does it make?
Since this thread has deteriorated into the paralysis of leftist Benghazi fear, I'll add this beam of light via The Anchoress:
"On Tuesday, CNN host Anderson Cooper asked Ramsey what it felt like to find out that he had been living next to kidnapping victims.
“See, that’s why now I’m having trouble sleeping,” he explained. “See, up until yesterday, the only thing that kept me from losing sleep was the lack of money. See what I’m saying? So now that that’s going on, and I could have done this last year, not this hero stuff, just do the right thing.”
“Because there’s a lot of people, they’re saying you’re a hero,” the CNN host noted.
“No, no, no. Bro, I’m a Christian, an American, and just like you,” Ramsey insisted. “We bleed same blood, put our pants on the same way. It’s just that you got to put that – being a coward, and I don’t want to get in nobody’s business. You got to put that away for a minute. You have to have cajones, bro.”
Cooper noted that the FBI had offered a reward for at least two of the victims.
“I tell you what you do, give it to them,” Ramsey said. “Because if folks been following this case since last night, you been following me since last night, you know I got a job anyway.”
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/theanchoress/2013/05/08/charles-ramsey-class-act/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+theanchoress%2Ffeed+%28The+Anchoress+-updated+to+firstthings%29&utm_content=My+Yahoo
Class Act
And yes, I know that Hillary is supposedly polling pretty well but it's not actually campaign season yet and only a complete nincompoop would spend money against her before it would do any good.
Very little discussion of the new facts brought up in the hearing by Althouse commentors.
One thing that popped out on me was Hillary assigning her personal consigliere and acting chief of staff to go to Libya with Congressional investigators, and warned Embassy staff and security people that they would only talk with the consigliere's permission and her noting each thing they said.
One of the men said in 22 years, with long experience with Congressional visits, it was the 1st time a high ranking individual tried interposing a "minder" to control what Congress heard, and to silence the staff on certain inquiries.
The woman was Cheryl Mills. A long time loyal Clintonista.
1. Deputy General Counsel of the Clinton/Gore Transition Planning Foundation after Clinton's 1992 election.
2. Associate Counsel to the President in the White House from 1993 on.
3. Upgraded to deputy White House Counsel for President Bill Clinton, whom she defended during his 1999 impeachment trial.
4. A word from HIllary, and she was hired by Oprah to help run the Oxygen Network. Then Senior VP of NYU with a little boost as a Friend of Bill and Hillary 2000-2007. Served in Hillary's Senate campaign as her senior staffer.
5. Senior Adviser and Counsel for Hillary Rodham Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign 2007-2008.
6. 2008 - Named Counselor and Chief of Staff to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
So many people have been harmed in this failure of leadership, from the people killed to the careers ruined and the families of all of them paying the price in sorrow and pain.
The people who seem not to be harmed are the people with the power to have made and carried out different decisions. Better decisions. Decisions based on decency and ethics instead of politics.
Those decisions were made badly and for reasons we still haven't been told. We know they were made badly because if they had been made well or for good reasons we'd know them.
It's not effective to argue that these decisions are the same or no worse than other decisions made by other people at other times. Bad dangerous decisions are always bad and dangerous no matter who makes them.
Also, can we get over the idea that we're talking about Democrat and Republican loyalty. Our side, your side. We're talking about political agendas and those don't necessarily break along party lines.
Thanks bagoh... like I said before, he's my kind of people.
Obama: "I'm going to Disney World."
Hillary: "Don't worry, I got this."
Obama: "No, wait. I'm going to Vegas."
Hillary: "I'm working the phones. Don't talk to Republicans! We can spin this. Put the filmmakers in jail!
Obama: "I got a thing with Jay-Z and Beyonce."
Hillary: "Nobody say anything to anybody! This was a spontaneous demonstration and there were no security lapses. I want to fire all the diplomats. No, wait, give them desk jobs. I'll handle this. I'm on this. It's the goddamn Republicans! They are politicizing what is obviously a tragic event that has nothing to do with my state department."
Obama: "No way, Hill! This is on you."
Hillary. "Right. Shit! Okay, I take full responsibility. Son of a bitch. Wait. I got it. What difference does it make? It just doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter. Republicans can suck it. Did we arrest that filmmaker yet? Get his ass in jail already. Make sure our minions in the media are on board. No story! There is no story!
One thing that popped out on me was Hillary assigning her personal consigliere and acting chief of staff to go to Libya with Congressional investigators, and warned Embassy staff and security people that they would only talk with the consigliere's permission and her noting each thing they said.
Cedarford: Nicely spotted.
By all means let's have more substantive discussion. Much happened today.
Just wanted to say that Darrell Issa is my Congressman an he has done an outstanding job.
I hope he considers the Senate; CA has two losers from SFO in DC and we need a change to better represent the state.
They demoted these guys with the expectation that hey would do what they did... so now they can have a target?
The whistleblowers are going to become their target to side show and deflect the fundamental story of what happened that day in Benghazi.
With the Clintons you never take anything at face value.
I'm not saying the whistleblowers are in cahoots with the Clintons... I'm saying that there is a possibility that they are unwitting scapegoats and that they might be playing into their trap... somehow.
I never count the Clintons out.
Excerpt from Jan 21, 1991 Washington Post:
The president and the first lady feel about her the way they generally feel only of longtime allies: They like her in the foxhole with them.
Partly it is her brains. The daughter of a career Army officer, Mills grew up on bases around the world, attended the University of Virginia and Stanford Law School and sped through the White House ranks by the time she was 30.
Partly it is her devotion. "She is incredibly loyal to the president," says one White House colleague. "If something's on the other side of a brick wall and the Clintons need it, she'll find a way to get to it: over, around or through."
And partly it is her attitude. "Combative," "strong-willed," "very tough – in all ways," "a lioness," according to friends and colleagues. As enforcer of the campaign and conflict-of-interest rules at the White House, it's her job to tell people no – including the president of the United States.
During the campaign finance scandals of 1997, Mills endeared herself to the Clintons with her never-back-down, share-nothing, don't-give-an-inch approach – it's their favorite approach of all. Daily, she battled with attorney Lanny J. Davis, who had been brought in to shepherd the news media through the firestorm. They clashed constantly. Davis wanted to release information. Mills wanted to keep it under wraps.
"The lawyerly approach in any of these situations is not to turn anything over until you have to," one White House official explains. "The other side will only ram it down your throat. Lanny's position was that this was more about public relations than law."
An Uber-Loyal "fixer" to the Clintons. She tries to keep problems from the light of day. If uncovered, she has ways to make people want to forget about the problem if they know whats good for them. And if need be, she goes on "point" to make the problem disappear.
Lem:
Problem with the Clintons et al is the overwhelming Obama love. In other words--the media will throw Hillary over the side to protect Barry.
Which might lead to some interesting internal fighting.
Did you read the NY Times story someone linked to?
Sorry, Jan 21, 1999 Washington Post ed.
I'm not saying the whistleblowers are in cahoots with the Clintons... I'm saying that there is a possibility that they are unwitting scapegoats and that they might be playing into their trap... somehow.
Lem: In this world the choices are usually not between the good and bad choices (much less the right and wrong ones) but between the least worst and the worse.
Demoting the whistlelowers might motivate them to blow whistles, but definitely intimidates the rest to keep quiet. Standard goon squad tactics.
I'm relieved to see even a few whistleblowers step up. I thought the top layer of State and the military had gone entirely corrupt and cowardly.
@bagoh20
... just do the right thing.”
Ramsey and the whistleblowers are the same.
You gave me the answer I was hoping for. I have a feeling they (Obama/Clinton) are going to go after the whistleblowers.
Lem:
I doubt it. Betamax has a sense of humor while Ritmo is a humorless librul scold and crazy to boot.
Cedarford: More good stuff. Mills is now "fixed" in my mind. I'll notice next time her name comes up.
You gave me the answer I was hoping for. I have a feeling they (Obama/Clinton) are going to go after the whistleblowers."
Can they, now?
I'm sorry not to have anything substantive to contribute to this conversation, but I just wanted to lament that the entity generally known as "Inga" has done broke my sockpuppet-o-meter in the last few days. In toto, she has posted as:
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...establishing some sort of record.
I see that Instapundit links to a story about The High Cost to the White House of Stonewalling on Benghazi.
One can wonder, if the cost is that high but they're doing it anyway, what would the cost be if they were open and candid with the public?
Cedarford: More good stuff. Mills is now "fixed" in my mind. I'll notice next time her name comes up."
Not for nothing, but ed-t mentioned her a couple of times up thread and she's been discussed.
This is a link to "Tombstone."
Did you read the NY Times story someone linked to?
Just the beginning... When I saw their picture... for some reason it took me back to the impeachment hearings... and how the Clintons turned everybody associated with the trial into the bad guys.
I recall a lot of politicians paid dearly for standing up to the Clintons.
"Problem with the Clintons et al is the overwhelming Obama love. In other words--the media will throw Hillary over the side to protect Barry."
I'm not sure about that. Maybe it's my bias clouding things, but I think Obama is starting to develop a stench of failure about him that the Clintons never had, and Obamacare is gonna send that home. Although Hillary screwed up most everything she has touched, that's not the persona she's been granted so far. She has yet to really carry responsibility, and is still sweetened by Bill's good fortune. I can see the Press latching on to her as what Obama never really was: competent and engaged. I don't like her, but that's how the left can adjust post-Obama. They may feel they need her for the future more than him.
Paco, I think a couple of those are Ritmo socks.
JayBlow, for instance. It came up right where he (ritzy) was carrying on about Jay.
Problem with the Clintons et al is the overwhelming Obama love. In other words--the media will throw Hillary over the side to protect Barry.
The Clintons are long range planners. Obama will name and support a successor. It may be Hillary or it may be someone else but in any case it won't be a political calculus. Obama won't care about that by then. It will be all about who can safeguard his legacy.
Assuming Hillary can weather Benghazi herself, if she doesn't make every effort to mitigate the slightest damage to Obama over it she won't get the nod for 2016. If she realizes she can't weather Benghazi its a moot point. She'll get too sick to testify or something along that line and get started grooming Chelsea for the future full time.
Big Mike: I was excited by the idea of that story, but if the stakes of Benghazi are no higher than the drones controversy as the story suggests, I'd say the White House made the right choice in stonewalling.
IMO an unstonewalled Benghazi would have cost them the election in November or any prospect for a successful first 100 days in January.
I'm fully prepared to think that Obama has plausible deniability and Hillary is his final sacrifial piece, should that become necessary.
I left instructions to be immediately awakened before my vital flight to Las Vegas to help create more jobs - if the situation in Libya worsened. I was never woken, and personally I am highly upset that Hillary influenced staff not to disturb me that night.
And it was State Dept claiming through her, that they understood the situation on the ground better than anyone, and it was the Blasphemy video. I am shocked, shocked! that I am learning the truth of matters with the rest of the public. I thought everything I said during the campaign and to Mr Romney in the debate was the unvarnished truth, so help be Al..so help me God.
If I could demand her resignation, I would. But she is gone and it's too late now.
@Bags:
I'm perfectly willing to be wrong and have you be right.
I guess I'd say...Barry brings Chicago with him, and I don't know if Bill's charm is enough to overcome Chicago?
CEO-MMP said...
Lem:
Problem with the Clintons et al is the overwhelming Obama love. In other words--the media will throw Hillary over the side to protect Barry.
Which might lead to some interesting internal fighting.
No "might" about it.
Barry the upstart stole Hillary's nomination and coronation as POTUS, thus depriving Willie of his third term and endless opportunities to graze on both interns and female fundraisers.
Not only that, Barry stuck Hillary in a humiliating situation with only enough power to show what a blithering incompetent she is, not only as a Senator and a candidate, but as an administrator.
If Axelrod and ValJar think they can hang this on Hillary!, thus tarnishing forever the hallowed Clinton name, without Hell to be paid in return, they're kidding themselves.
If Hillary!, and by extension himself and dear little Chelsea (for whom Willie holds the faint hope of a career in politics), goes down, you can bet he'll take the Hyde Park Mafia, Ayers and Dohrn included, down with him.
Can they, now?
I now this is not the high minded vocavulary Alhouse is looking for her commenters... but, in my case this is the only one I got.
I look at everything emanating from Obama/Clinton et al as a possible trap.
If they could not have found a way to make it work for them they would not have allowed the hearings to move forward.
Paco,
Add Annamarie Albergetti and Mandy Moreno to that in just the last couple of days.
This thread has to have a record just in of of itself. At a minimum she had 10 sock puppets all agreeing with each other. Has to be the most prolific single thread sock puppetry in internet history.
I tip my hat to the effort even though I think she's in need of intervention at this point.
@Paco Wové: Excellent sleuthing. Inga changes ID as often as panties.
Shame on her for being so shameless. She should learn from Titus (who used blogger IDs like kleenex).
Still, all said and done, there was something endearing about Inga (though I wouldn't trust it for a millesecond).
Poor pathetic Ritmo thinks none of us have noticed what a filthy hypocrite he is, tossing the vilest faleshoods at others and then complaining when someone replies with simple truths about what kind of person he is.
My "foregone conclusions" were of course nothing of the sort, as he would know if he had spent even one minute trying to understand them. The fact is that he gleefully slandered all Republicans by misrepresenting dozens of times what one of them had said, and now can't be bothered to spend even one-tenth as much time and verbiage either defending or withdrawing what he wrote. (To anyone coming in late: go back to comments page 401-600 and read my 8:29.)
He's like a little boy who knocks over the chessboard and then pretends he wasn't checkmated. What a loser.
This is an interesting article on the Obama-Clinton squabble. Ed Klein's sources seem to be quite good.
If blame for the security failures falls to Hillary Clinton, Klein said, it’s possible that she would even consider resigning over the issue.
You called it!
I left instructions to be immediately awakened before my vital flight to Las Vegas to help create more jobs - if the situation in Libya worsened. I was never woken, and personally I am highly upset that Hillary influenced staff not to disturb me that night.
And it was State Dept claiming through her, that they understood the situation on the ground better than anyone, and it was the Blasphemy video. I am shocked, shocked! that I am learning the truth of matters with the rest of the public. I thought everything I said during the campaign and to Mr Romney in the debate was the unvarnished truth, so help be Al..so help me God.
If I could demand her resignation, I would. But she is gone and it's too late now. "
"too late now"...but after much soul searching I've instructed Attorney General Holder to issue a warrant for her arrest on charges of ...blah blah ?
Media swoons, Clinton's are vanquished and Obama is the new sole head of the party until he dies or a hispanic lesbian tranny shows up to captivate the masses.
I don't understand why anyone ever thought Hillary Clinton would make a good Secretary of State. Maybe back in the 18th century when there were fewer "states" to deal with, but not now in the modern world. This whole thing has her MO all over it. Just like Whitewater.
Wasn't after Benghazi that she suddenly disappeared for some mysterious illness? Maybe she was cracked with guilt.
I'd like to think there will be some follow up to the whistleblowers testimony today. If not from the media, at least from the house committees.
If nothing else, whoever gave the order to stand down needs to be identified, and made to explain themselves.
If they could not have found a way to make it work for them they would not have allowed the hearings to move forward.
Lem: I can understand your concern, but the Clintons are far from omnipotent. If they were as savvy as you say, Hillary would already be in the White House.
In 2008 I assumed the Clintons would eat Obama for breakfast. Didn't happen. They're good but not that good.
"I don't understand why anyone ever thought Hillary Clinton would make a good Secretary of State"
I will confess – if Hillary! had been the Democratic nominee in 2008, there's a pretty good chance I would have voted for her. Not that I didn't know she was a conniving asshole, but I thought, in my naiveté, that she was our asshole, to steal a characterization. However it's pretty clear now that her circle of loyalty is considerably smaller than I had hoped.
I can understand your concern, but the Clintons are far from omnipotent. If they were as savvy as you say, Hillary would already be in the White House.
I think they underestimated Obama... by the time they figured out what was happening Obama had taken/stolen the nomination away from her.
I don't disagree, ed-t, I'm just not sure Bill has the juice anymore.
Poor Ritmo, off his meds and whining about censorship.
Start your own blog, perhaps the voices in your head will all agree with you in the comments there.
Nobody will call you out on your incoherent logic or homophobic slurs there, I promise.
Ritmo: My 9:05 PM chirbit preserved the spirit of your (now deleted) 5:47 PM opening salvo. Your opening shots are always the most Churchill-worthy (see earlier chirbits).
I am the Roger Daltrey of chirbit--looking for a Pete Townshend.
Anyways..
What I'm trying to say is look for attacks on the credibility of the whistleblowers.
That's always worked for them.
This is a link to "Tombstone."
Look Dahlin, it's Johnny Ringo.
I think they underestimated Obama... by the time they figured out what was happening Obama had taken/stolen the nomination away from her.
I'm not sure it was the media or Obama. I think there was some overconfidence, and there was a lot of neither Bill nor Hillary believing that this little prick with nothing behind him was going to amount to anything.
But the media fell in love with the clean articulate black fella and once that happened--what was Bill supposed to do without being branded a racist? I mean, I seem to recall he went pretty far down that road as it was.
Ritmo has now spent far more time and energy giving excuses for failing to answer my very simple argument than it would have taken to answer it - assuming of course that there is an answer other than "Sorry, I was completely wrong and shouldn't have insulted Dante and all Republicans over and over and over again". He still hasn't told us what Bush could have done to prevent 9/11 either, even when several of us gave suggestions about what might have worked.
If his comments are being deleted now - I wouldn't know -, is it because so many of them repeated the same false and dishonest charge in a completely boring and stupid way? Maybe if he'd tried using more argument and less insult and a lot less repetition his comments would be more welcome here.
What I'm trying to say is look for attacks on the credibility of the whistleblowers.
That's always worked for them.
That works for a lot of people - that's a pretty standard response. It's an old standard used when the whistleblowers actually do have credibility problems. And also used when the whistleblowers don't have such problems, as you seem to assume.
All that has to be weighed out. Unless you already know.
All this slobbering over the "hearing" and Ritmo holds a mirror up to the slobbering in all its banality. So naturally Ritmo's comments needed to go. More slobbering, less mirror holding is clearly needed
Why Johnny Ringo. You look like someone just walked oe'r yore grave.
Some have brought up Iraq as some kind of equivalency test to Benghazi.
First, so far as I can tell, there is no policy difference between Ds or Rs on the ME. And there shouldn't be: it's obvious if the life blood of the economy, oil, does not flow, the world is going to suffer catastrophic consequences.
Other than that, one was a bi-partisan effort, and the other was a cover up. It's despicable to see D's having supported the effort recanting for political gain, pretending as if they were lied to. When they had the same information as all the decision makers.
The Benghazi cover up wouldn't have saved lives, but it does reflect on the people, primarily Barrack Obama, in competence. He isn't.
Meanwhile, listening to the accounts today, I'm proud of my fellow Americans, the ones battling on the front lines, from trying to make ties with the new Libya, to Methadras' very poignant note that he knows two of the four dead.
But I'm not proud of my elected officials. It shows what happens in a country of dependence and jealousy, instead of standing tall for oneself.
It shows what happens in a country of dependence and jealousy, instead of standing tall for oneself.
Walk tall, Buford.
I recall at the time of Impeachment the Clintons hired private investigators and they looked into Henry Hyde's past and discovered that he had had an affair way back.
Nothing is beyond these people.
CEO-MMP said...
I think they underestimated Obama... by the time they figured out what was happening Obama had taken/stolen the nomination away from her.
I'm not sure it was the media or Obama. I think there was some overconfidence, and there was a lot of neither Bill nor Hillary believing that this little prick with nothing behind him was going to amount to anything.
Not taking anything away from the fact Hillary! was a lousy candidate (indecisive, etc.), Willie didn't reckon on Zero's hook with the Kennedys (something he would have killed for) and didn't seem to get the idea that handling Zero as if he (Willie) was back in Li'l Rock, dealing with some uppity civil rights type ("20 years ago, he would have been fetching coffee"), would blow up in his face as his considerable racism, First Black President notwithstanding, once again surfaced.
I think the hate is real on both sides and we could see a gang war the likes of which this country hasn't witnessed since the New York and Philadelphia mobs battled over the casino business in Atlantic City.
If not 2/14/29.
I'd like to think there will be some follow up to the whistleblowers testimony today. If not from the media, at least from the house committees.
PMJ: Me too, of course. But we'll have to see.
I must admit last fall it felt like the ending of "Chinatown" -- the full triumph of evil -- and the Republic had been replaced by a national version of the Chicago machine working hand in glove with the liberal media, while the Republican Party was entirely supine.
It still seems to me that the goal of the Democratic Party is to become the America PRI - the corrupt one-party dictatorship which has run Mexico for most of the past 100 years -- and never mind the consequences for the US.
I'm still pessimistic. This could be the last of Benghazi for all I know, as it spirals down the "What difference, at this point, does it make?" drain.
Why Johnny Ringo. You look like someone just walked oe'r yore grave.
I watched that entire movie for a second time simply for that one scene. How powerful.
And the time Doc Holiday spun the jigger around his finger.
I could leave most of the rest of the movie, though.
Add Stephanie Delmonico to the sockpuppet list?
I just looked and it appears that the comments deleted included all of the dozen or more in which Ritmo quoted something Dante wrote out of context as if it were terribly shameful and blamed all Republicans for it. When someone posts the same stupid thing a dozen times on one comment thread, it would be dereliction of duty for the moderators not to delete it.
Anyway, Team Yoko didn't let my more "agreeable" comments stand, they deleted all. So my conclusion is that they censor on the basis of identity and ideology (which was also attacked tonight),
What, you are saying some of your comments were deleted? Seriously?
"Walk tall, Buford."
Hahahahahahahaha
I agree with you Dante - that's a key moment. And that movie had a lot of crap. But Val Kimmer's Doc Holliday was iconic.
Frickin link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAOGEowsk3A
Now Ritmo accuses me of 'focusing only on myself' when my whole point was to defend Dante (whom I don't know, and had mocked on another comment thread earlier today) for something he wrote that Ritmo totally and shamelessly and repeatedly misrepresented. The man (Ritmo, not Dante, and I mean 'man' only in the most general sense) just can't stop lying!
And the time Doc Holiday spun the jigger around his finger.
I could leave most of the rest of the movie, though.
I liked tlhe movie a lot, but nearly all of the actors could be replaced, but not Val Kilmer. Iconic at least
Ahh'l be yore huckleberry
Ritmo, stop the whining, stop the crying and stop the pouting. You behaved like a complete and utter douche earlier. People asked you to stop and you doubled down on assholeness.
To fuss about it now is the move of a second grade girl.
Colonel Kurtz responds to Ritmo's question: "Am I a good faith commenter or not?" link
I woundt be surprised if private investigators are right now rummaging thru the whistleblowers past... for things that mysteriously and anonymously will end up on the laps of so called journalist, who will assiduously and lap-doggedly, proceed to print every titillating detail, distracting attention away from what we are learning happened that night.
@Lem:
Heh. In order to destroy the whistleblowers with anything like that the media would first have to explain who/what/why wouldn't they?
Besides, if there was anything, why wouldn't Chicago Jesus have tossed it out before today?
I woundt be surprised if private investigators are right now rummaging thru the whistleblowers past... for things that mysteriously and anonymously will end up on the laps of so called journalist, who will assiduously and lap-doggedly, proceed to print every titillating detail, distracting attention away from what we are learning happened that night.
Well we'll see. Of course if you want to commend yourself for your foresight right now...
without considering the fact that I had a gaggle of personal attackers to fend off before, have to fight an uphill struggle against your own "faith" (ask yourself if you'd really be prepared to believe whatever answer I'd give you), and am still on the receiving end of some rather extensive and one-sided censorship, to boot.
FFS.
You like hard cheese, soft cheese or the nasty runny shit?
phx, you just don't seem to be bringing the A game here tonight.
You okay?
I watched that entire movie for a second time simply for that one scene. How powerful.
And the time Doc Holiday spun the jigger around his finger.
I could leave most of the rest of the movie, though.
Dante: As it happens, I just watched Tombstone a few weeks ago for Val Kilmer's Doc too. A bit of a mess, but fun.
I looked up Wyatt Earp in wiki and discovered his last wife, Josephine, lived to 1944 and died in Los Angeles, which seemed a wonder to me that someone who had been part of the legend of the Wild West should live almost to the end of WWII.
So now I'm "just presumptuously defending one thing [Dante] said"? That one thing was important enough to Ritmo for him to quote it over and over and over as if it were a shameful thing to say, but somehow not important enough for Ritmo to bother trying to understand it. He couldn't deal with my argument because he had too many insults to deal with. A man's gotta have priorities. Or a man's got to know his limitations, and Ritmo knows that if he sticks to the insults, he may have a chance, but when it comes to argument he's in way over his head.
Heh. In order to destroy the whistleblowers with anything like that the media would first have to explain who/what/why wouldn't they?
This is how they stayed one step ahead of the sheriff back when Clinton was first governor and then president.
They have friends in 'journalism' that will do this kind of thing for them.
phx, you just don't seem to be bringing the A game here tonight.
You okay?
LOL!
I don't rattle, kid. But just for that I'm gonna beat you flat.
- Fast Eddie
World's changed, Lem.
They had that much juice Billy Bubba'd be riding AF-1 again right now.
Ritmo the Retard..
Give up and go away.
People don't hate you because they disagree with you about politics.
You have one of the most awful, repellant personalities I've ever encountered. Your paranoia makes you into a demonic, vicious son of a bitch.
None of this crap with you is about politics. You're just a vicious, worthless low-life.
People are going to hate your guts, politics or no politics. It's your karma. Forget the politics and see if you can alter your godawful karma.
Thanks Weevil, for selectively quoting me when you know that your comments will be preserved while mine are erased in their entirety. Context and all.
Must make you proud to make off like a bandit with stolen quotations.
As I said, I expect about as much honor from you.
And from Team Yoko.
World's changed, Lem.
Not for the Clintons it hasn't.
It's a mystery to me why Kilmer is in so many bad movies, but in the right movie with the right role, he's pretty great.
OT -- a plug for Kilmer as a laconic, elite, special forces guy in Mamet's "Spartan."
"Don't you teach 'em knife fighting, sergeant. You teach 'em to kill. That way they meet some son-of-a-bitch who studied knife fighting, they send his soul to hell."
You're welcome, Ritmo, and I hope to Hell they never let you back. Comment deletion cuts both ways: you know as well as I do that my "selective quotation" does not misrepresent you in any way, but now you can pretend it does - unless your latest gets deleted. Are you really unaware of how richly you deserve damnatio memoriae?
World's changed, Lem.
In Hillarie's own words...
What difference, at this point, does it make?
I believe she is going to fight.
Are you really unaware of how richly you deserve damnatio memoriae?
I'm sure a censor like you (also a Roman word) knows just how he needs his emperors to act.
Not that you'll consider what that says about you, of course.
So now Ritmo thinks the fact that "no one will ever be able to read what [he] said to defend [him]self" will make him look worse? Deleting really stupid comments is a favor to the commenter.
It's a mystery to me why Kilmer is in so many bad movies, but in the right movie with the right role, he's pretty great.
I thought he was great, really great, in The Ghost and the Darkness.
Deleting really stupid comments is a favor to the commenter.
And how wonderful it is for you to know that you can entertain this lie while also telling me that my memory is being damned as a form of dishonor that you say I so richly deserve.
Just the kind of inconsistency that defines you.
Go ahead. Decide which of these little bits you want to use against me, and disregard the rest. Fascists the world over envy the role you know get to occupy, Censor Weevil.
One lost moment in the whole Benghazi story was the Petraeus take-down. He didn't blow a whistle. He was just tight-lipped and a little surly. Then wham! Bimbo time.
Petraeus coulda still hung tough and I think he had the connections and credibility to have blown the game sky-high, but he didn't. He played it safe. He took his pension and went home -- safe, warm and dry.
That was big. I don't know if Petraeus wasn't the guy I thought he was or whether there was even worse in store for him if he had resisted. But it looked bad either way.
I know exactly what my dislike of Ritmo and willingness never to see one of his comments ever again tells about me: I don't suffer fools gladly, and I suffer self-pitying lying fools who go out of their way to damage excellent websites for political reasons even less gladly.
I thought he was great, really great, in The Ghost and the Darkness.
phx: I'll check it out. That's a Kilmer I haven't seen.
Now I'm a fascist? I have no power over Ritmo, nor will I ever. If I did, I would compel Ritmo to knock off the insults, cut out the lies, and answer the fucking questions: 1. What could Bush have done to prevent 9-11? 2. Why can't he either defend his repeated assertion that Dante said something so vile that all Republicans were shamed by it, or admit that he was wrong, and withdraw the accusation?
Of course, I have no power to turn him into a decent, or even a normal, human being, either.
Amy Heckerling deserved better than Jason Biggs.
"Loser" was the movie I wished were made, was, and made me realize my dreams/hopes/whishes all suck.
Then this happened:
"Technically, television shows and movies are to be italicized because individual scenes or episodes would be put in quotation marks. However, many times these titles are put in quotation marks and you will find this done quite often, especially in reviews."
http://grammar.yourdictionary.com/punctuation/titles-using-italics-and-quotation-marks.html
What kind of paranoid thinks Ann or Meade asks me for advice on whether to delete comments or not? I don't even know which one is doing it, nor care. I do know that Ritmo's comments will not be missed, and that even if I could guarantee that his answers to the fucking questions would not be deleted, he would find some new excuse to avoid answering them. He's already come up with three or four, because he isn't man enough to admit that he was himself shamefully wrong on both issues.
Saddest words "what might have been" true but only in the context of lives snuffed short.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0217630/
As far as film, this coulda been a contender.
Jason Biggs held back some serious decency, culturally, much like someone I can't remember as of now.
Again, fuck me and America for this Ethanol "Starve the kids" addiction we all perpetuate to our eternal damnation.
"Salton Sea" was another Val Kilmer sleeper in which he plays a meth addict seeking revenge.
Can't believe how skinny he was in it. He looked like the real thing.
Ritmo is being chaste by the delete hammer...
...I like the Jim Morrison lines:
Did you stop it to consider,
How it will feel?
Cold, grinding grizzly bear jaws
Hot on your heels
I think it would work as a Sarah Palin campaign theme.
Again, fuck me and America for this Ethanol "Starve the kids" addiction
Fuck me I don't have a position paper on Ethanol. If I did it would look like Doc Holliday spinning the jigger around his finger.
You know Kilmer was also in Masked and Anonymous.
O Ritmo Segundo said...
None of this crap with you is about politics.
Can I get the endorsement that nine out of ten liberal and independent Althouse readers agree!?
Of course not.
So go on with the personal ad hominems. Free-reign. Hold me down while you sucker punch me. It's the way a guy like you needs it to be.
5/8/13, 10:52 PM
No, Ritmo, what I crave are liberals on this site who debate in good faith. This is a lively discussion forum often about topics that interest me. I see a lot of thoughtful, good faith comments by conservative/libertarian folks. (Not ALL comments - a lot.)
What it lacks are liberal voices that can argue in a reasonable manner. On topic. Acknowledging facts that may not help their cause. Conceding points when someone makes one that cannot be reasonable disputed.
I see plenty of people on the right who do that here as much as they can. (The trolls, like yourself, can disrupt that.) But I do not see it coming from the left side. Some come close. Today, I would say phx did the best job. But there is a lack of consistency.
While this is addressed to you, I accept that you are wholly incapable of answering the call. My hope is that there are liberals lurking, who see that you are a buffoon, but are afraid to write because they see how bad things can get here.
If you are lurking, I believe that you will be received in good faith so long as you extend similar good faith to those you oppose here. And, if you do so, and are attacked nonetheless, some here will speak up on your behalf.
I think most of us here CRAVE honest, intelligent discussion where, in the end, we do not have to agree but we at least have a better understanding of each others positions.
I watched Kilmer's "Saint" the other night and it was an entirely by-the-numbers thriller with a stupid feelgood maguffin. It's hard to believe Robert Evans of "Chinatown" and "The Godfather" fame was one of the producers.
"The Saint" TV show with Roger Moore is still fun to watch and had a heck of a lot more soul than the 1997 movie or his Bond movies for that matter.
I was shocked to discover that the later episodes were in color.
I never saw the tv show. The movie sure was a bust.
You know Kilmer was also in Masked and Anonymous.
phx: Vaguely. I've been burned by Kilmer enough times ("Red Planet") that I don't rush out for his films.
Is M&A good?
Ritmo said, Blah, blah, blah.
Listen, moron, there is a reason all of YOUR posts are being deleted and it has nothing to do with partisanship.
What disappoints me is when it's all attacks instead of explaining and building an alternative point of view that holds together.
That's what picking out some single sentence and spamming it does... the horror is supposed to be so obvious that it doesn't even need to be discussed. Right? It's attempts at mockery or shamming and nothing involving actually presenting an alternative view.
And then what? I get scolded for lecturing because I tried to discuss the complexity behind that spammed sentence?
And really... "But... Iraq!" is not an argument. Neither is "Bush did it!" And certainly projected hypotheticals of "But you do it to in my pretend fantasy world!" are entirely pointless.
My biggest take-away from nearly 730 comments under this post is something no one mentioned... "Wow, Nixon really did nothing at all even slightly bad, did he, and the media sure creamed him good." It's almost as though reality itself has shifted.
Is M&A good?
Well it's a Bob Dylan movie.
Ritmo wrote: Remind yourself that with every plea to see a response, you say you want me to go away. Well, I hate to inform the ill-mannered, but the excommunicated do not leave parting gifts. When you banish someone, you have to admit that you believe the power you exercised is its own vindication. You don't proclaim that you got an admission under duress as booty, and then call yourself an honest person. You might as well waterboard me. But then, you've probably already fantasized about that for a while.
Sullivan did a story on owls today.
I have worked out general theory on how to revamp the presentation of the Periodic Table of Elements according to ideas we had earlier in case you're interested.
I never saw the tv show. The movie sure was a bust.
phx: The TV shows are on torrents and selected episodes on Netflix. Sixties TV shows are great as time capsules.
"Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" is Kilmer/Robert Downey Jr. collaboration which was better than I expected. Kilmer plays a gay detective/straight man to Downey's usual endearing smart-guy loser.
And really... "But... Iraq!" is not an argument. Neither is "Bush did it!" And certainly projected hypotheticals of "But you do it to in my pretend fantasy world!" are entirely pointless.
Synova: When you nail it, you nail it.
Ritmo, go back and read what I wrote. YOU ARE A LOST CAUSE. There is no purpose and nothing to gain by treating you as anything other than what you are: a churlish troll. Any rational person reading this blog KNOWS this. As such, telling you to FUCK OFF would not have any negative impact on lurkers whatsoever. Capisce?
Ritmo spends dozens of comments trying to "shame, embarrass and humiliate" all Republicans for something one of them said which he found shameful because he didn't understand it, repeatedly refuses to defend his interpretation, and now feels sorry for himself because I don't think much of him. Why should I? He alleges that I want a "sense of triumph" over him. No: I want an argument, with a conclusion, but he's perfectly willing to give me a sense of triumph by his stubborn refusal to argue. It's hard not to feel triumphant when the opponent keeps saying 'no mas'.
It would have been so easy for him to refute my "foregone conclusion" simply by arguing like a grownup for a change, but he just couldn't do it. I knew he couldn't, because I've seen him wreck dozens of other threads on this site with his refusal to argue honestly and his constant insults.
What can you say about someone who knows that this site has quite a few right-wing trolls, quite a few left-wing trolls, and a lot of right-wing and middle-of-the-road arguers-in-good-faiths, but somehow thinks that arguing in good faith is not a high priority for the lefties?
And what can you say about someone who fantasizes that others fantasize about waterboarding him? I don't even fantasize about waterboarding the neighbor who likes to smoke on the balcony right outside my living-room window, though I do fantasize about him quitting smoking or moving somewhere out in the country where he can enjoy his vice in private. My only fantasy about Ritmo is a hope to eventually forget that he ever existed.
Wow, Nixon really did nothing at all even slightly bad, did he, and the media sure creamed him good." It's almost as though reality itself has shifted.
Well, I've heard it explained that it wasn't just the Watergate break-in or even the cover-up, but the relentless drip-drip-drip of scandals leaking out -- ITT, the milk fund, the enemies list, the LSD-on-Jack-Anderson's-steering-wheel scheme, etc. -- plus of course Nixon's bizarre, toxic personality that did him in.
I was around back then and there's something to it. After the Sixties assassinations and Chicago convention it was like descending into a national phantasmagorical hell. Younger people have no idea how strange that decade from 1962-1972 was.
O Ritmo Segundo said...
Listening to you is like listening to a rapist lament and wonder why no one wants to make love to him. Talk about a lost cause.
5/8/13, 11:58 PM
Talk about a world class asshole. Seriously, your parents completely failed you. Jesus, you are a pathetic waste of space.
Geez. Give it up, guys.
Ritmo is just the intellectual version of Inga, doing the tar-baby thing.
You do not, and never have, asked an honest question here. Nor given an honest answer. Except that time you acknowledged to me that you are here to troll and "play games".
When I first commented anything towards you, it WAS respectfully despite what I had seen you do with others. I figured that if you and others had personal beef then that did not involve me. Nonetheless, you quickly turned troll and, as such, I treat you accordingly now. The way I communicate with you is how I communicate with you and you alone. That is, I do not dismiss you for the shitbag you are because of your politics; I dismiss you as a shitbag because you ARE a shitbag.
Just like Inga. I asked her direct and respectful questions and she responded with nasty shit. Thus, I treated her as she demonstrated she DESERVED to be treated.
Of course, you know all this because your sole purpose in being here is to be an asshole. You have admitted as much. It is all just a really sad and pathetic indictment of your character. Seriously, get a hobby. Do something productive and positive with your time. You'll feel better and so will those of us here.
Ritmo, you think you are treated the way you are because of your politics. That is not true. You are treated the way you are because of WHO you are. The content of your character is termite droppings. You lack redeeming qualities. Your impact here is uniformly negative. People pick up on this and act accordingly.
O Ritmo Segundo said...
Matt, you played a language game to get that comment and you know it.
5/9/13, 12:21 AM
LOL
I do think Obama is going down in the history books with Nixon as one of our strangest presidents.
Back to Benghazi...
I stepped away from this thread and when I returned there was a whole lot of talk about Iraq. I thought, "Why the hell are they talking about Iraq?" Reading through Ritmo's comments, one thing he claimed to be trying to do was see some consistency in Republicans. (Never mind that 9/11, Iraq and Benghazi are unique situations or anything. Ya know - nuance - the thing the left can do and the right can't...)
He was not defending Obama. He was saying that what Obama did with Benghazi was AS BAD AS what Ritmo perceived Bush to have done with Iraq. That is one hell of an admission on his part and explains the thread-jack. If Ritmo believes that what Obama did was AS BAD AS what he feels Bush did, then Obama did a very, very bad thing. Thus, CIRCLE THE WAGONS! DEFEND THE NAKED EMPEROR!!!
It will be interesting to see comparisons of Watergate and Benghazi in ten years or so.
What the FUCK is Ritmo on now? Hoping to forget that he ever existed has nothing to do with wishing death or harm on him, any more than wishing my neighbor would go smoke somewhere else, not outside my window, implies wishing any harm on him. I'm glad my brain no longer wastes any cells recalling some of my more forgettable college classmates and most of the things I did on various tedious jobs over the years. I would like eventually not to have any memories of Ritmo's tedious, stupid, and often vicious comments taking up brain-space that could be used for more valuable memories. It's fine with me if he has a happy life, as long as his happiness doesn't involve wrecking websites I am otherwise fond of.
And what kind of moron thinks my treatment of the vilest troll on the site is evidence of how I would treat an honest leftie willing to argue like a grown-up? I've practically begged Ritmo to take that role himself, to argue instead of insulting, even tried baiting him into doing so by predicting that he would not and offering him an easy triumph in defying predictions, all to no avail.
O Ritmo Segundo said...
Matt, you played a language game to get that comment and you know it.
5/9/13, 12:21 AM
My favorite part of the comment you made that I "gamed" out of you: you never denied it.
On this page you talked about being "outnumbered and outgunned". That made me chuckle. "Outgunned". Very true. Though, honestly, Jay by far outguns you the most.
Actually, that line deserves to be memorialized as well...
O Ritmo Segundo said...
So, when you are outnumbered, and outgunned, how fairly do you decide to fight?
5/8/13, 11:34 PM
Here, Ritmo again acknowledges that he is a troll. How? He admits that he does not fight "fairly" which he justifies due to the superior numbers and intellect of his opponents. It is an odd argument for, if he were correct in his stances, the truth should be enough of a weapon...
Welcome back, Inga.
So, Stephanie, what is your take on the Benghazi testimony today?
creeley23 said...
And really... "But... Iraq!" is not an argument. Neither is "Bush did it!" And certainly projected hypotheticals of "But you do it to in my pretend fantasy world!" are entirely pointless.
Synova: When you nail it, you nail it.
================
Yes and no.
Iraq cannot be summoned for the Coverup.
Yes, when Republicans wave the bloody shirt and pretend blubber about how mistakes killed 4 dead heroes!!!....Democrats can wave a bigger bloody shirt back at them with Iraq. How Bush and the Neocons with huge mistakes in judgement about a cakewalk war and Noble Iraqi Freedom Lovers! - had a huge bloody shirt of 4400 deaths and maimings and 1.2 trillion pissed away that rewards Democrats again and again when that bloody shirt is waved.
4 DEAD HEROES!!! - is chump stuff compared to that bloody fiasco.
On the other hand, Bush was not lying before his 2004 election claiming his "heroes with boots on the ground" had found a HUGE stockpile of WMD and 3 Key Iraqi leaders in a secret location that said Saddam was 1 year away from launching a WMD atack in US cities. And siccing lawyers on all in the loop threatening career damage if they revealed the lie, until after Bush was safely re-elected.
It would have been a huge lie. But for all his faults, Bush was never the liar and sleazy coverup artist the Clintons and the affirmative action Prez were.
Do you believe the three men testifying gave an honest and accurate account of what happened?
Fuck you, Ritmo. You can't go around calling people rapists and fascists and waterboarders and then claim the high road and pretend that you would have liked to argue with me if only I had been nicer. You know, and I know, that you prefer insults to arguments because you lose arguments. There's absolutely nothing to stop you from answering my quesitons except your own ineptitude.
Matt: I don't think 'Stephanie Delmonico' is an Inga sock. 'She' is obviously a Ritmo sock. The word "mighty" is the give-away.
So now the guy who repeatedly insisted that all Republicans were responsible for one supposedly-vile sentence from Dante is claiming that "unifying collective voices into a single 'enemy'" is something the other side does?!
I wish Blogger allowed for a signature line. If they did, I would put this:
O Ritmo Segundo said...
Matt, you played a language game to get that comment and you know it.
5/9/13, 12:21 AM
Ah, what a sweet taste.
Weevil, if Ritmo is going to sock puppet, I say engage it! He'd have to keep the passive aggressive nicey, nice veneer up then. Plus, "Stephanie's" profile pick is much better to look at. It was quite the coincidence that they both signed off at the same time!
Ritmo calls me a fascist, accuses me of wanting to waterboard him or even kill him, and tells at least a dozen other lies about me, and dozens more about others, yet somehow thinks a simple 'fuck you' is "unhinged and unnecessarily obscene". The obscenity was necessary and quite a mild comment on the depths of his vileness.
Dr. Weevil: Thanks for the defense against Ritmo. I can't find his comments.
I'm in awe of what Americans did in Benghazi, and the testimony of the people today. Especially the "Ex" seals, who lost their lives for America.
I simply do not understand the ideas of the current administration.
Anyway, what's the point in dealing honestly with others if you can't point out a silly trait or two that one is given to?
Ritmo,
I can't find your comments. Write them down again.
Dante:
Either Meade or Ann deleted them. He repeatedly (12+ times) quoted the one sentence ("Whether lives would have been saved, more lost, etc., to a large degree isn't that important.") as coming from "Some Republican" and insisted that that meant that you and all Republicans don't actually care about American deaths, but are just whining about Benghazi for political reaons. In other words, the usual filthy Ritmo lies, but this time repeated word-for-word over and over.
Dante:
If you go back a page to comments 401-600 and ctrl-F on 'Methadras', his first comment (7:59pm) quotes one of Ritmo's in full, in italics. They were all pretty much word for word the same - tedious as well as slanderous.
Stephanie Delmonico said...
I'm no one's sock, god you people are paranoid. Hey it's been fun, good night sweet princes of Althouse! I'll have to remember to drop by more often.
Oh, that's odd, because when you search for the Google Plus profile number of "Stephanie Delmonico" (116639518742674202140), the results are all to web albums belonging to someone named "Inga".
Funny, that!
Kibuki theater Matt.
A straight answer on how Four Americans got killed is a theater.
When nothing else seem to be persuasive enough... question the authenticity... the honesty of the service people.
Oh they are going to go after the whistleblowers alright.
Holy shit, Palladian! Hysterical!
lol...
Inga has been outed.
Wow, that was sloppy on her part. I hope that isn't a picture of her daughter, though it would be ironic.
And I have to say, I've tried to give Inga benefit of the doubt. Some time ago, she switched to commenting under her real first name, a gutsy and honest move. She was (I assumed) an often annoying but genuine "good-faith" commenter. I was wrong.
You certainly know from pathetic, Ing... err, "Stephanie".
Inga, is that a picture of your daughter? Or are you using a picture of someone else's daughter without their permission?
so want an Obama impeachment, pathetic.
Oh yea.. Its Inga alright.
Palladian, I had more fun today than I've had in the two years I've been here. I really don't have another word to say to you sad folks. There are more hateful, nasty, spiteful, creepy folks that inhabit his place than I've ever seen congregated anywhere.
Lord, my sides hurt from laughing so damn hard today, now I'm off to bed... Sober I might add! If I hung around here any
longer I actually might have to start drinking.
If you Google; althouse inga pathetic
It gets "About 9,450 results"
Inga, seriously, you have to go scrub that crap. It is good luck that this happened in the middle of the night but any anonymity for you is gone.
Palladian, though she hardly deserves kindness, could you delete the post where you definitively link her? I'd understand if you don't want to but just that much makes it very easy to find out, well, you know the internet!
Inga says we are "hateful, nasty, spiteful, creepy", but, at least she cant say we have a multi personalities disorder.
That's not us.
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