I remember seeing these albums in my parents record collection — in there with all the Julie London and Ray Coniff Singers — and I don't remember any other comedy albums. I remember trying to grasp the idea of a "nervous breakdown" and the relationship between comedy and inner pain.
Here are "The Wonderful World of Jonathan Winters,” “Here’s Jonathan” and "Jonathan Winters: Down to Earth."
Jonathan Winters was — as I understood it, possibly wrongly — the greatest of all comic geniuses, but we only ever got to see a small part of what he might have done, and the greatness and the denial of the whole were part of a single phenomenon, something about his mind. From the first link:
“Mother and dad didn’t understand me; I didn’t understand them,” he told Jim Lehrer on “The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer” in 1999. “So consequently it was a strange kind of arrangement.” Alone in his room, he would create characters and interview himself.He studied art and married an art student when he was 23. They were married for 60 years, until she died. His entry into show business came at the urging of his wife, who pushed him to enter a talent contest, which he won and which led to a morning radio show, on which he created characters and interviewed himself.
The family’s fortunes collapsed with the Depression. The Winters National Bank failed, and Jonathan’s parents divorced. His mother took him to Springfield, where she did factory work but eventually became the host of a women’s program on a local radio station. Her son continued talking to himself and developed a repertory of strange sound effects.
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How dare you bring up his mental problems?
You are worse than that mean old McConnell and that poor victimized Judd.
Ugly Ann, ugly.
I can't possibly claim he was the "greatest" or "best" comedian but he was damn funny. I remember, as a preteen, his appearances on the Dean Martin Show in particular.
His rapid wit would beat Robin Williams' in a foot race any day.
until she did
...until she did....what??
Typo or spelling error? I don't care.
Consider it a compliment that so many appreciate every little word you post!!
The great Jonathon Winters when Jimmy Durante kicked the bucket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h57UR-oIE_g
You can argue about who's the greatest, funniest, etc. But, Winters always belongs in the conversation. God bless.
"..Jonathan Winters was — as I understood it, possibly wrongly — the greatest of all comic geniuses.."
Yep, he was incredible. Just thinking about him brings a smile to my face.
Our house, being low brow had "Rusty Warren: Knockers Up!" - 1960, which my parents listened to, and I didn't understand.
Then we got Bill Cosby "Wonderfulness" - 1965, which my friends and I used the cover photo of as inspiration to build a go cart, which led to much pain and bleeding among us. We all loved the Cosby record, and his next one too "Revenge" -1966. We would listen over and over.
Then a little older we got into the Cheech and Chong records and thus moved into the high-brow era.
rehajm,
Pretty much my thought as well. I love them both, and consider Robin Williams something of a direct descendant of Winters. I wonder if Williams has ever acknowledged the debt he owes Winters or noticed the similarity?
BTW, my parents also had "The buttoned down mind of Bob Newhart", and a Shelley Berman album the name of which escapes me. Both wonderful.
So my childhood was immersed in diversity: Ginger, Black, Latino, Chinese. Then I went to school and found out I was a racists and didn't like other people. I never recovered, and I am still a racist, but I'm taking medication for it.
We all loved the Cosby record, and his next one too "Revenge" -1966.
Oh Junior Barnes!! You Gunky!!
Years ago, after I learned of his mental health issues, I always wondered if we were laughing at him, or with him.
I always hoped it was the latter.
but I'm taking medication for it.
Don't let New York's gun board know about this. They'll come and take them from you.
Bagoh20,
My folks also had Rusty Warren "Knockers Up," and "Wonderfulness" was the first comedy album I bought on my own.
This best represents what he was capable of ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwWDa1xPTPA
PMJ.
Speaking of insanity, what drives a creature like him?
Crazy, simply nuts, but not as entertaining as Winters by a long shot.
I remember him as Mork's baby.
Titus, if Winters played Mork's baby, that pretty much nails down acknowledgement of the Winters-Williams comic patrimony.
"His rapid wit would beat Robin Williams' in a foot race any day."
"I wonder if Williams has ever acknowledged the debt he owes Winters or noticed the similarity?"
Yes, Robin Williams has acknowledged Winters as a brilliant predecessor and inspiration, and himself a great fan of Winters. As noted, they worked together early in Williams' career and later in Winters'.
I remember that Robi Williams especially wanted Jonathan to play thepart .JW, Red Skelton , Bill Dana, Bill Cosby,Bob Hope and so many more made my youth so bearable.But so many pay the price for their genius.
No one could touch Winters in wit & response. Not even Williams.
Jonathon Winters and Robin Williams riffing together. They play off each other beautifully.
He was brilliant in 'Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World'.
@ madashell ... Did?? I'm guessing 'Died'. A typo. '...married 60 years, until she died.'
One of the all-time greats, period. Along with Sid Caesar, maybe the two best-ever- at improve.
SteveR said...
I can't possibly claim he was the "greatest" or "best" comedian but he was damn funny.
Naw. He was pretty much wet your pants laughing funny. Not a lot of comedians can do that.
Rusty Warren?" It's part of my body and I will wash it as fast as I want"
Red Fox "We know what you are, now we're just haggling over the price"
Richard Pryor'The waters cold"
"yeah, and it's deep too"
Bob Newhart "Don't fffence me in"
Robin Williams(as Elmer Fudd) "..when you kiss me-
Slappy White? "...one o'clock, no cuckoo .....2 o'clock, still no cuckoo.....3 o'clock, cuckoo comes out...'Say, Baby, What time is it?'"
Cheech and Chong "Who is it?"
"Dave"
"Dave's not here"
Naw. He was pretty much wet your pants laughing funny. Not a lot of comedians can do that
He was just a bit before my time to say with first hand experience but I'm very open to the judgement of others on the matter
Never a big fan of his, but he had a nice turn in "Moon Over Parador".
PS I had all of Cosby's albums on Warners, but his first 4, the last of which was "Wonderfulness" were his best.
He was the comedian that the comedians of his era considered the most inventive and original. What was truly unique about his comedy was that for the most part it was apolitical. I think he did Nixon a few times, but his jokes were not generally directed against Republicans. That's what made his talent so original. He could find things other than Repblicans to make fun of.
"...until she did....what?? Typo or spelling error? I don't care."
Oh, no!
Until she died.
Did?? I'm guessing 'Died'. A typo.
Yes, I know.
I think my spelling nazi irritated our hostess a couple of weeks ago. There was even a thread discussing typos, and spelling errors.
I should just smile, and move along.
A comedic genius. I have an aunt who suffered from schizophrenia and was helped immensely @ the Institute of Living in Hartford, Ct. This great improv comedian was also treated @ The Institute of Living and credits it w/ saving his life decades back.
Robin Williams is the first to admit he is a student of Winters and Winters is the master. I saw both of them on Letterman once and Williams was humble and deferential to Winters, and Winters was uncomfortable w/ the praise.
One of his characters was Piggy Bladder, football coach for the State Teachers’ Animal Husbandry Institute for the Blind.
Read that out loud. Go ahead. I dare ya.
I remember lieing on the floor watching Godfrey Cambridge on the Jack Paar show, and laughing so hard my cheeks and abdominal muscles hurt.
Winters was amazing.
He was a neighbor of a friend of mine who lived in Bel Air about 25 years ago. He came to a party one night and was a thoroughly nice guy. Lots of comedians are weird in person but he wasn't.
Jack Parr, the water closet joke, I remember it. I was just a kid. My mom worked until 10. I could stay up until she came home.
Yes, I remember Jonathan Winters well. He deserves being remembered well.
I thought he was a wonderful cop in The Russians Are Coming! The Russians Are Coming!
"We've got to get organized!"
I know him best from the Twilight Zone: A Game of Pool.
I thought he was very, very good in a purely dramatic role.
Not on the same radar as Jonathan Winters, but, if you remember the Jackie Kennedy White House, you'll hear a bell ring at the mention of Maria Tallchief, who also died today.
Courtesy of our own Irene.
They're really going in bunches now, aren't they?
Like Althouse, I had always HEARD that Winters was a great comic genius - from other comics. I found the stuff I could see on TV to be funny, but a little tame. When you are depending on a Dean Martin special for "the good stuff" that's a stretch.
Mr. Winters made even watching commercials fun. RIP.
I remember watching him on the Jack Parr Tonight Show with my Dad laughing so you couldn't hear the TV.
Jonathan Winters was the precursor to Robin Williams.
Sorry Nick, didn't see your post till after I posted mine. You got it right.
Peculiar people easily identified with Winter's adept mind and verbal artistry. He connected to some at a deep level but only seemed silly to many others...and he seemed to understood that.
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