Chip S, do you think the Gosnell business would be getting more air if it was a white doctor brutally murdering alive (in some cases) black babies, abortion legal or not?
Chip S, do you think the Gosnell business would be getting more air if it was a white doctor brutally murdering alive (in some cases) black babies, abortion legal or not?
If it was a white Mengele exclusively murdering black kids, it would get some, but, of course, it's still abortion, so they can't talk about it.
One solitary act of mass infanticide by a mentally-ill loner calls into question the constitutional right to guns, but a sustained conveyor belt of infanticide by an entire cadre of cold-blooded killers apparently has no implications for the constitutional right to abortion.
Mark Steyn
God forbid that anything should get in the way of those sacred women's reproductive rights.
Too bad. Winters was a hell of a funny guy. One of the last of the generation/era where people could be funny without being smutty. Nothing wrong with smut, really, just that Winters was a funny guy.
Like the way Rickles is funny without being evil mean.
"Well I was up at Meade House after this chestnut squirrel I'd been chasin' her for weeks Oh, I'd catch a glimpse of her every once in a while Takin' her meal, or bathin A fine lady
This one day I happened to be real close to her I saw her standin' over there So I snuck up to her nice and easy And I got my camera out And I took a picture down on the ground..."
So it turned out our son had Kawasaki disease. The rest was misdiagnosis. I figured out what it was by consulting Dr. Google, and went back for a fourth appointment, asking them to specifically evaluate in detail for Kawasaki. That was it. We've been in the hospital since Tuesday, used a lot of IVIG, and are about to leave.
I think good manners should dictate a refund for all the pediatrician visits, given that I had to do the diagnosis myself, but I don't think I should be expecting that check.
So it turned out our son had Kawasaki disease. The rest was misdiagnosis. I figured out what it was by consulting Dr. Google, and went back for a fourth appointment, asking them to specifically evaluate in detail for Kawasaki. That was it. We've been in the hospital since Tuesday, used a lot of IVIG, and are about to leave.
Kawasaki?
I take it this has nothing to do with motor scooters.
In all seriousness, glad they nailed it, although it's nastily reminiscent of The Blonde's oldest brother.
For years, she's insisted he had Marfan's (same thing that made Abe Lincoln look so long and gaunt), but nobody would do anything about it. Now, he's near collapse physically and finally somebody (an opthalmologist) says, "Ya know this guy's got Marfan's?".
And I will make the amusing observation that everyone makes mentally but doesn't dare make verbally in my presence: yes, it is blackly amusing that the Caucasian kid with the Japanese name got a rare disease most common in Japanese people. Maybe the disease was lost.
Freeman, a good diagnostician always listens to a parent's instincts and hunches, IMO. Good for you for being such a great health care advocate for your son. Unfortunately so many are intimidated by big medicine and don't push it.
Freeman, a good diagnostician always listens to a parent's instincts and hunches, IMO. Good for you for being such a great health care advocate for your son. Unfortunately so many are intimidated by big medicine and don't push it.
My wife can tell a bout of strep throat coming on (in our kids) from about a mile away.
She's outdiagnosed pediatricians twice in the past 2 years.
I think good manners should dictate a refund for all the pediatrician visits, given that I had to do the diagnosis myself, but I don't think I should be expecting that check.
As long as they don't come after you for practicing medicine without a license you should probably consider yourself lucky.
A lot of people use Dr. Google and diagnose themselves with things they don't have as well.
I'm not smart enough to be able to ignore my patient's hunches, but many adults are convinced they have chronic Lyme disease, even when the confirmatory tests are negative.
They can usually find someone to prescribe 6 months of antibiotics, sometimes IV.
And don't get me started on adrenal fatigue or hypothyroid-but-normal-tests.
If it was a white Mengele exclusively murdering black kids, it would get some, but, of course, it's still abortion, so they can't talk about it.
Except that live-born babies are not "fetuses," which does make things a bit legally difficult. As in, for example, taking scissors to the spinal cord of an American citizen so as to cause death being commonly called "murder."
The right for a woman to contract the killing of any human being that she has conceived shall not be infringed. It's the little known Sanger Amendment to the Constitution.
"A lot of people use Dr. Google and diagnose themselves with things they don't have as well."
Yes, I think there are two types of Dr. Google users: those who read studies and sites like Mayo Clinic and those who read Dr. Mercola and hate vaccines.
Whenever either my husband or I says something the other finds scientifically dubious and the other asks where the first heard it, the standard answer used to be, "scientists who are persecuted for their beliefs," but lately "Dr. Mercola" has been winning out.
Good job, Freems. Best wishes for a full recovery and may God bless.
General advise from my own preGoogle parenting archives: If pediatrician diagnoses scabies infection and prescribes Lindane, get a second opinion. It might be eczema.
Doctors have the experience and the education that we must have when facing medical needs.
But some Doctor's seem to be like the Big Banks which have so many rules about the practice necessary to keep them and their operation running smoothly, that customer need becomes an inevitable blind spot for them.
Get another set of eyes that understands that you are an educated consumer who demands good service. That focuses their minds on doing a good job for hard to handle patients.
The thing that was so great about Winters, and I can't think of another comedian who has done it, was that he created a whole cast of American archetypes and did it with humor that had love in it at the same time he was poking gentle fun. Maude Frickert, of course, and Elwood P. Suggins, the bumpkin farmer, "I think eggs 24 hours a day." There's a whole huge swath of America that you wouldn't know existed and exists to this day to go by the Hollywood/MSM version. Winters made it visible.
I want to help you make a get well card, one that says everything.
Here is an idea for a card. If I make time then I'll show how to do this, otherwise you could draw your own thing, and it doesn't matter how crummy your drawing turns out. It really does not matter at all.
Here's how I know that. Yesterday on b3ta messageboard confirmed what I knew, a member wrote: today's blind-draw challenge: frog.
What followed were member response drawings of frogs made in any program at all done with their eyes closed and the results are hilarious.
And to force relevance, which you needn't just as you needn't draw a perfect or even a very good frog, but if you must then,
A. Honey I love you so much B. I could croak
or just deadpan
Please don't croak
If this seems odd then I ask you to enter the mind of a child and If it still seems odd then try again in the mind of a boy.
Additionally, I can show how to make a pop-up of a frog.
Here's the thing. That is just one frog. It could be a frog elevated on a hand, a frog on lily pad, a frog that extends toward the viewer on a cantilevered lily pad. A frog that does not say "croak."
There could be a second page where the action is the frog's tongue. You could make a 3 dimensional frog that sticks out its tongue toward the viewer with a fly on the tip. Or tongue across the page to snag an insect like this chameleon.
Then on a third page. A frog can offer the fly on its tongue to the viewer. Like this bear does:
Don't you think that would crack somebody right up? Especially when you make it.
I must emphasize it does not matter how badly it comes out. You can absolutely suck as an artist, your love and your humor goes much farther than you know, it will heal.
I told you of the card made by the guy who printed on regular paper a comic drawn by another b3ta member. A blockish cartoon of Batman punching Penguin so hard poop comes out (the poop is labeled) It cracked up a 6 year old so hard and so uncontrollably at a restaurant in London his whole table fell out laughing which spread to adjoining tables who hadn't even seen the card. That cracks me up way over here.
Ruth, thank you for asking that but I've never done it. It's been suggested too, but honestly, I know the people that I give these things to and that is basically the only thing that makes it worthwhile. But for some reason I do feel interested in telling people how they can do it easily and how astounding the results are, and probably better than me, because I just don't have much patience.
Perversely it has a become a way for me to say without saying, "I do love you through and through even though you are impossibly stupid. From afar." And that message has resonated so charmingly that people collect them, so I've learned, and share them around, like they go out to dinner for their birthday and show the card they got and bring with them the previous cards. So then those people shown ask.
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64 comments:
Is there a side of squism?
No lunch for me today. I've been reading about the Gosnell trial.
Do blondes get more nuts?
Can I haz a Dagwood?
Chip S, do you think the Gosnell business would be getting more air if it was a white doctor brutally murdering alive (in some cases) black babies, abortion legal or not?
I've been wondering that.
No, that's not her. She always asks for a booth.
traditionalguy said...
Do blondes get more nuts?
I don't know if Meade resents that, but I do.
CEO-MMP said...
Chip S, do you think the Gosnell business would be getting more air if it was a white doctor brutally murdering alive (in some cases) black babies, abortion legal or not?
If it was a white Mengele exclusively murdering black kids, it would get some, but, of course, it's still abortion, so they can't talk about it.
Jonathan Winters is gone at 87 years of age.
One solitary act of mass infanticide by a mentally-ill loner calls into question the constitutional right to guns, but a sustained conveyor belt of infanticide by an entire cadre of cold-blooded killers apparently has no implications for the constitutional right to abortion.
Mark Steyn
God forbid that anything should get in the way of those sacred women's reproductive rights.
Too bad. Winters was a hell of a funny guy. One of the last of the generation/era where people could be funny without being smutty. Nothing wrong with smut, really, just that Winters was a funny guy.
Like the way Rickles is funny without being evil mean.
Rush is using the drive-the-audience-away radiothon method today.
Every second is radiothon, from my samplings turning the sound on and off.
"Well I was up at Meade House after this chestnut squirrel
I'd been chasin' her for weeks
Oh, I'd catch a glimpse of her every once in a while
Takin' her meal, or bathin
A fine lady
This one day I happened to be real close to her
I saw her standin' over there
So I snuck up to her nice and easy
And I got my camera out
And I took a picture down on the ground..."
With apologies to Roger
Toomey and Rubio better look up the meaning of the expression dough-face.
What gave birth to the republican Party is about to kill it.
PS Jonathan Winters was very creative, he must have had an incredibly active mind, but that was his problem for a long time.
People would invite him to parties expecting Jonny to be on to the point he could never turn off.
Probably one of the reasons he shifted more into acting in later life.
So it turned out our son had Kawasaki disease. The rest was misdiagnosis. I figured out what it was by consulting Dr. Google, and went back for a fourth appointment, asking them to specifically evaluate in detail for Kawasaki. That was it. We've been in the hospital since Tuesday, used a lot of IVIG, and are about to leave.
Great catch, Freeman - did you know you're a living Grey's Anatomy episode? Hope all goes well...
Ha. That's what I heard.
I think good manners should dictate a refund for all the pediatrician visits, given that I had to do the diagnosis myself, but I don't think I should be expecting that check.
Freeman Hunt said...
So it turned out our son had Kawasaki disease. The rest was misdiagnosis. I figured out what it was by consulting Dr. Google, and went back for a fourth appointment, asking them to specifically evaluate in detail for Kawasaki. That was it. We've been in the hospital since Tuesday, used a lot of IVIG, and are about to leave.
Kawasaki?
I take it this has nothing to do with motor scooters.
In all seriousness, glad they nailed it, although it's nastily reminiscent of The Blonde's oldest brother.
For years, she's insisted he had Marfan's (same thing that made Abe Lincoln look so long and gaunt), but nobody would do anything about it. Now, he's near collapse physically and finally somebody (an opthalmologist) says, "Ya know this guy's got Marfan's?".
Hope the little guy gets well soon.
I hope that means things are well, Freeman.
And I will make the amusing observation that everyone makes mentally but doesn't dare make verbally in my presence: yes, it is blackly amusing that the Caucasian kid with the Japanese name got a rare disease most common in Japanese people. Maybe the disease was lost.
I wouldn't say they nailed it...
If they hadn't agreed with my diagnosis and hadn't been able to convince me out of it, I would have taken him to the emergency room for another try.
Faith in doctors generally, down. Faith in Dr. Google, up.
Faith in doctors generally, down. Faith in Dr. Google, up.
Lots of people self diagnose now. You have more information than your doctor, in most cases, or they may overlook things that are atypical.
Best of luck to you and your family now!
Freeman, a good diagnostician always listens to a parent's instincts and hunches, IMO. Good for you for being such a great health care advocate for your son. Unfortunately so many are intimidated by big medicine and don't push it.
It took his passing to finally correct my mistake in thinking he was Mr Joyboy instead of the priest in The Loved One. That was Rod Steiger.
A good movie and a great part for Mr Winters. It didn't say where he is going to be buried but will probably be in the ground.
Freeman, a good diagnostician always listens to a parent's instincts and hunches, IMO. Good for you for being such a great health care advocate for your son. Unfortunately so many are intimidated by big medicine and don't push it.
My wife can tell a bout of strep throat coming on (in our kids) from about a mile away.
She's outdiagnosed pediatricians twice in the past 2 years.
Freeman Hunt said...
I think good manners should dictate a refund for all the pediatrician visits, given that I had to do the diagnosis myself, but I don't think I should be expecting that check.
As long as they don't come after you for practicing medicine without a license you should probably consider yourself lucky.
Glad to hear things are going well.
Our son had Kawasaki's, before IVIG was used routinely. The sloughing of skin from his palms and soles was freaky, but the high fever was scary.
Hope your boy recovers soon.
A lot of people use Dr. Google and diagnose themselves with things they don't have as well.
I'm not smart enough to be able to ignore my patient's hunches, but many adults are convinced they have chronic Lyme disease, even when the confirmatory tests are negative.
They can usually find someone to prescribe 6 months of antibiotics, sometimes IV.
And don't get me started on adrenal fatigue or hypothyroid-but-normal-tests.
edutcher,
If it was a white Mengele exclusively murdering black kids, it would get some, but, of course, it's still abortion, so they can't talk about it.
Except that live-born babies are not "fetuses," which does make things a bit legally difficult. As in, for example, taking scissors to the spinal cord of an American citizen so as to cause death being commonly called "murder."
... it's lunchtime.
Are blondes tastier than the gray ones?
So Obama just released his gross income and his tax rate -- 18%. And he's really upset his rate is so low. Aww.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2013/04/12/president-obama-and-vice-president-biden-2012-tax-returns
Based on personal experience such critters love peanut butter more than any other food.
The right for a woman to contract the killing of any human being that she has conceived shall not be infringed. It's the little known Sanger Amendment to the Constitution.
Freeman: Hope your little guy gets well soon.
@ Freeman- continued prayers and vigilance are still in order, I'd think, since there can be serious sequelae. Hope that all continues to go well.
"A lot of people use Dr. Google and diagnose themselves with things they don't have as well."
Yes, I think there are two types of Dr. Google users: those who read studies and sites like Mayo Clinic and those who read Dr. Mercola and hate vaccines.
Thanks, garage.
Yes, C. Stanley, and thanks.
Dr. Google and "Dr." Google.
Barney Google
Whenever either my husband or I says something the other finds scientifically dubious and the other asks where the first heard it, the standard answer used to be, "scientists who are persecuted for their beliefs," but lately "Dr. Mercola" has been winning out.
Good luck to you, Freeman. May you always be the second opinion.
Good job, Freems. Best wishes for a full recovery and may God bless.
General advise from my own preGoogle parenting archives: If pediatrician diagnoses scabies infection and prescribes Lindane, get a second opinion. It might be eczema.
But please don't give up on doctors, they do a thing or two. ;)
Thank you, Allen.
Thank you, Meade.
Worry not, Inga. I like doctors very much.
Garage says one thing... and his avatar says another.
Its a pattern ;)
"...something the other finds scientifically dubious and the other asks where they first heard it"
It's "Dr. Oz" in our house.
Doctors have the experience and the education that we must have when facing medical needs.
But some Doctor's seem to be like the Big Banks which have so many rules about the practice necessary to keep them and their operation running smoothly, that customer need becomes an inevitable blind spot for them.
Get another set of eyes that understands that you are an educated consumer who demands good service. That focuses their minds on doing a good job for hard to handle patients.
Dr. Frankenstein scares me a bit and I don't trust Dr. Jekyll.
those who read Dr. Mercola and hate vaccines.
Heh.
There are also a fair number of hypochondriacs I'd imagine.
But please don't give up on doctors, they do KNOW a thing or two. ;)
4/12/13, 2:37 PM
Corrected.
The thing that was so great about Winters, and I can't think of another comedian who has done it, was that he created a whole cast of American archetypes and did it with humor that had love in it at the same time he was poking gentle fun. Maude Frickert, of course, and Elwood P. Suggins, the bumpkin farmer, "I think eggs 24 hours a day." There's a whole huge swath of America that you wouldn't know existed and exists to this day to go by the Hollywood/MSM version. Winters made it visible.
Freeman,
Even a hated guy like me here wishes your son and your family the best.
As to Winters, just say this out loud:
One of his characters was Piggy Bladder, football coach for the State Teachers’ Animal Husbandry Institute for the Blind.
Another thing about Winters: it is impossible to think of him 0 if you are familiar with his humor, and not think of Robin Williams.
ric is dead on about Winters' cast of characters.
Fritz said...
... it's lunchtime.
Are blondes tastier than the gray ones?
I like to think so.
Blondes have more bun.
That squirrel is actually a ginger, and I love me some ginger, even if they don't have souls. Whatever you do, do not shave a ginger.
I've been both blonde and brunette, fun can be had in every shade .
Maybe the squirrel is rusty.
I want to help you make a get well card, one that says everything.
Here is an idea for a card. If I make time then I'll show how to do this, otherwise you could draw your own thing, and it doesn't matter how crummy your drawing turns out. It really does not matter at all.
Here's how I know that. Yesterday on b3ta messageboard confirmed what I knew, a member wrote: today's blind-draw challenge: frog.
What followed were member response drawings of frogs made in any program at all done with their eyes closed and the results are hilarious.
And to force relevance, which you needn't just as you needn't draw a perfect or even a very good frog, but if you must then,
A. Honey I love you so much
B. I could croak
or just deadpan
Please don't croak
If this seems odd then I ask you to enter the mind of a child and If it still seems odd then try again in the mind of a boy.
Additionally, I can show how to make a pop-up of a frog.
Here's the thing. That is just one frog. It could be a frog elevated on a hand, a frog on lily pad, a frog that extends toward the viewer on a cantilevered lily pad. A frog that does not say "croak."
There could be a second page where the action is the frog's tongue. You could make a 3 dimensional frog that sticks out its tongue toward the viewer with a fly on the tip. Or tongue across the page to snag an insect like this chameleon.
Then on a third page. A frog can offer the fly on its tongue to the viewer. Like this bear does:
"Here."
Don't you think that would crack somebody right up? Especially when you make it.
I must emphasize it does not matter how badly it comes out. You can absolutely suck as an artist, your love and your humor goes much farther than you know, it will heal.
I told you of the card made by the guy who printed on regular paper a comic drawn by another b3ta member. A blockish cartoon of Batman punching Penguin so hard poop comes out (the poop is labeled) It cracked up a 6 year old so hard and so uncontrollably at a restaurant in London his whole table fell out laughing which spread to adjoining tables who hadn't even seen the card. That cracks me up way over here.
Chip Ahoy,
Can one commission a card from you? If so, how would one go about it?
Ruth, thank you for asking that but I've never done it. It's been suggested too, but honestly, I know the people that I give these things to and that is basically the only thing that makes it worthwhile. But for some reason I do feel interested in telling people how they can do it easily and how astounding the results are, and probably better than me, because I just don't have much patience.
Perversely it has a become a way for me to say without saying, "I do love you through and through even though you are impossibly stupid. From afar." And that message has resonated so charmingly that people collect them, so I've learned, and share them around, like they go out to dinner for their birthday and show the card they got and bring with them the previous cards. So then those people shown ask.
Chip, what great ideas. He would be delighted. I'll have to make an attempt.
The Valentine's Day card was a hit, so why not.
Thank you, Brent.
Thanks, ed.
Yes, it is, Patrick.
Thank you, Shanna.
Thank you, Inga.
Thank you, Ignorance is Bliss.
And now I am deliriously tired, so off to bed
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