Here. Testifying on Benghazi to the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee.
ADDED, 8:31 A.M.: Hillary has a fairly authentic crying quality in her voice as she speaks of embracing the families of those who died in the attack. That comes just after she says in a steely voice that those who serve in countries like Libya know they are going into a dangerous place and cannot work "in a bunker." Risk comes with the territory, and Chris Stevens fully understood where he was going and what he would face.
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205 comments:
1 – 200 of 205 Newer› Newest»What does the green dress mean?
I'm ready for the "Shaggy Defense".
"It wasn't me."
What he perhaps didn't understand is that his government would let him down at the key moment.
Gee, and I thought she was going to fake her death to avoid testifying! You must be so disappointed.
8:31 A.M.: Hillary has a fairly authentic crying quality in her voice as she speaks of embracing the families of those who died in the attack.
Yeah, this has been hard on Hillary.
i'm ready for the chewbacca defense
Are they going to ask her why she blamed the whole thing on YouTube guy?
The nice thing about a dangerous assignment is knowing the State Department picks up the tab for your funeral.
"Hillary has a fairly authentic crying quality in her voice"
Authenticity - once you can fake that, you're good to go.
Chris Stevens fully understood where he was going and what he would face.
Yea.. but does that mean he was on his own? he would have no backup available when things got ugly?
Yea sounds like she is blowing it off. This is how Obama and her are going to frame it in order to not take responsibility for denying the security requests. By blowing it off and blaming the world for being "dangerous".
No accountability, no responsibility, no problem, these are progressives and they always get a pass to be incompetent.
I like Hillary's glasses. I am sure that that is what she wants people to remember about today.
Shes waving her arms around a lot.
The world is dangerous. BUT
Can't have weapons to protect yourself.
They had the weapons, chose not to use them.
We have the weapons, we can't.
"Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch. Freedom comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote. Those rights are spelled out in the Bill of Rights and in our California Constitution. Voters and politicians alike would do well to take a look at the rights we each hold, which must never be chipped away by the whim of the majority."
James Bovard is sometimes credited for the phrase, and he did use it in the Washington Times, August 29, 1992:
"The USDA's concept of democracy reminds one of the old joke: Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner. Why should the government give some farmers the power to vote to destroy other farmers' property rights?"
These people have no experience with democracy...
The more reason why the ambassador should have had better security you you bloodless brain bitch.
Freder Frederson said..."Gee, and I thought she was going to fake her death to avoid testifying! You must be so disappointed."
Have you ever noticed how lame and cheap sarcasm like that is?
Also, you are making up shit about me, so you need to do a better job of it than just a weak pooping of sarcasm. Now, sharpen up or you will be deleted as a troll when you do this in the future.
Boxer seems to be blaming Congressional budget cuts.
Barbara Boxer is just obfuscating.
She is very sad.
Something happened, she's not sure why the security was never improved, but she has appointed a new deputy because she is sad and she never wants to go through that again.
This whole Benghazi thing was very hard on her.
Chris Stevens fully understood where he was going and what he would face.
I imagine he also figured that he'd be given the resources to protect himself and his crew, especially if he asked for them. Poor sop. He fucked up. He trusted the Administration.
The problems isn't that it happened.
The problem is the prevarication AFTER it happened.
And while we’re on this point: I'm quite sure that Hillary is committed to getting it right. Very committed.
Starting pictures are always committed to getting it right. We still sometimes sit them down in the first or second innings.
Andy Reid and Lovie Smith were all committed in getting it right. They're gone, gone, gone from their old posts.
No one was more committed than John Scully at Apple to get it right.
So the question for Ms. Clinton is, "How many chances to get it right do you think a Secretary of State should have, especially after presiding for years over a process that was obviously wrong?”
Barbara Boxer embarrasses me as a resident of California. I am sorry my fellow citizens inflicted her on the nation.
She said she only talked to Obama once, later at night
I want to know what he did and said during the siege.
She looks like Royal Tenenbaum.
Weep. Cry. Just think of the dead people and their families! (does this look good for the camera? yes? thanks!) Weep. Cry.
Grr. How dare you complain when I stand on the bodies of children and diplomats! (did that look good?)
Just because I got them killed doesn't mean anything.
Getting past the election without the truth. Check. Getting past futile efforts to get truthful testimony. Checking. No talking about transparency.
Libya Security Lapse: The Budget for Embassy Security Is Not Responsible
There has been some back and forth between Republicans and Democrats over funding for security in Libya in the wake of Ambassador Chris Stevens’s death. Republicans have questioned whether the State Department had adequate security to protect the ambassador, and Democrats have countered that Republicans tried to cut funding for embassy security. What does the budget record show?
According to the fiscal year (FY) 2013 Congressional Budget Justification Department of State Operations (p. 11), overall funding for those programs has increased sharply over the past decade. Indeed, Worldwide Security Protection is more than double what it was a decade ago. Despite reductions from budget peaks in FY 2009 and FY 2010, both budget lines are higher than in FY 2008...
It is tempting to look for a scapegoat for the tragic events in Libya. However, if one exists, the overall budget for embassy security is not it. Funding for that purpose has risen sharply over the past decade. Moreover, the State Department has considerable latitude in allocating security funds based on current events and intelligence on possible threats. Why that latitude was not applied in Libya deserves further scrutiny.
Stevens fully understood where he was going and what he would face.
He thought we'd back him up if necessary. He was wrong.
Watch Hillary nod her head, especially when being "questioned" by a Democrat, even while she's drinking from a glass of water.
I've said it before, but I can't believe anybody would want to be an US Ambassador to a Middle Eastern country after these events, knowing that you can't count on this administration for help at all if things get dicey.
@ Althouse--
when you're get blog hits by making lame and cheap conspiracy theories, people rightly make lame and cheap jokes at your expense.
And I'm not being sarcastic.
What's with the glasses?
Did she have cosmetic surgery on her eyes and this is covering them up?
Has she worn glasses like this in the past?
John Henry
I had no knowledge.
when you're get blog hits by making lame and cheap conspiracy theories, people rightly make lame and cheap jokes at your expense.
Noting that she had a wealth of odd "medical problems" that we still have had precious little actual evidence of to avoid discussing this until well after the election is simply noticing the world.
Progressives are notoriously poor at noticing the world for what it is --- not what they wish it to be.
Crying is something women have in their tool box that men can't use.
Do you think its legitimate for a woman in Hillary's position to use that tool?
Hillary is not answering Rubios questions.
My Irate Hill.
That's an anagram of Hillary Time. So is Thy Liar Mile. Maybe that's what she walked to testify, thy liar mile.
"The Libyans had willingness but no capacity"
So where were you?
This site is full of lame and cheap sarcasm....but....
IOKIYAR...
She looks "relatively" good in those glasses and in green.
Her hair actually looks better too-she cut it a tad.
Now if she could lose 50 pounds in the ass she wouldn't be a bad looking 65 year old.
I would do Bob Casey-he has "nice" look about him. Soft voice. He's handsome.
Barbara Boxer is just obfuscating.
Please. Call her Senator.
Hillary has a fairly authentic crying quality in her voice ...
The ability to fake sincerity is sine qua non for a politician at her level of the game.
Bob Menendez has a cheap hair dye job.
Bob Corker sounds like such a southern cracker.
Has anybody asked her specifically about using the annex even after the armed Cross and Britain had left the area due to danger?
Ha ha ha ha ha, MadMan!
Where is Uma Abedin? Is she at home taking care of her and Hillary's child?
"Noting that she had a wealth of odd "medical problems" that we still have had precious little actual evidence of to avoid discussing this until well after the election is simply noticing the world."
there'd been an ARB report and testimony by its co-chairs. they had all the information they were likely to get before christmas.
sorry this is not the scandal you thought it was going to be...hillary's doing just fine, and I can hear the air go out of the balloon.
I am watching it now. My heavens she is such a bullshitter. and not very effective. She will never be president. Never.
Rubio vs. Clinton...did we just see the first 2016 Presidential Debate?
Hillary is sceeching the democrats standard line "How dare you!". Hillary is great at the "how dare you" screech.
Now a democrat hack is licking her ass. Gross.
She's contradicting herself. It's unimportant now to figure out why they did it. It's important to find them and find out what happened.
Why in the world would the first instinct to be to wait for the FBI to talk to the people in the hospital?
Why do the Democrats, who want to cut defense spending, want to make it a funding issue?
Hillary! will never be president.
Green = the color of Islam.
No answer but "how dare you ask" about why poor Susan Rice went on all the Sunday news shows and lied to everyone on behalf of the Obama administration.
No answer as to why Susan Rice went out and repeatedly lied.
I like Senator Flake. Pity about the name. He's an honest guy with good ideas.
I used to really like her. I preferred her to Obama in 2008.
She's toast now.
Conversations! Lets have some. Ongoing. Conversations. Bullshit. Poor Hillary. Why did this have to happen on her precious watch?
Lessons. Comnversations.
Now she is re-writing history.
Waht susan rice isn't what susan rice said. Amazing.
"We didn't have a clear picture"
So why did Susan Rice and Jim Carney insist that the whole thing was something that it wasn't? I thought Susan Rice had a clear picture? oh wait. ... "How dare you ask!"
IMO all Noh theater--Ms Clinton will provide no useful information; the gasbag senators on both sides of the aisle will pontificate and at the end of the day the day Benghazi will drop off the radar screen as an issue.
"didn't have a clear picture"
Bullshit! You had a clear enough picture to trot-out the video bullcrap.
I just watched her flat out lie about the issue of a protest and when who knew what. Then she threw a "Oh, look--Squirrel!" moment about how it is more important to make sure it doesn't happen again than find out why it happened in the first place. She actually feigned offense that anyone questions the issues behind 4 DEAD AMERICANS. Emphasis hers.
She would have you/us believe that it was excruciatingly tedious for she and he senior people to find out what was happening. That is a lie. She new within 10 minutes of the assault that it wasn't a protest...her "officer of the day" aka "duty officer" would have told her senior leadership that fact immediately by encrypted secure telephone similar to the old STU III phones, now updated STE Phones, used by the military.
"Facts" are what she imagines they are and you must believe her. The narrative is what is important, not the veracity of the details.
What a huge waste of time to de-brief her at all.
I guess no Senator is going to state what is plain: the Youtube video story was ridulous on its face. I didn't believe it at all; rightist pundits everywhere laughed and wondered where and how the Administration got such a stupid idea. Check the Youtube view count at the time.
Hillary, you didn't "get it wrong". My sense is that you guys made up a story; you have not adequately built a case that it wasn't a lie from the get-go, and that both Rice and Obama spread it widely, even internationally.
if the smartest woman in America can't pass a bar exam and can't help getting emotional, what good is she?
The democrat questions are just pathetic. "Oh Hillary -we love you".
hahaha i love the overwhelming sadness of the commenters as they realize that there isn't going to be the slaying of Hillary they'd hoped it would be.
We have a success story? Where?
Hillary's laugh is like finger nails on a chalk board.
To me the bottom line is this: the administration succeeded in kicking the Benghazi can down the road until after the election. the can will now rust in the ditch as the media focus on important stuff like the ND football player's composite girl friend, the two coaching brothers facing each other in the superbowl and, of course, the Kardashians and Lady Gaga.
McCain brings it.
McCain gives her an "F" for Unanswered questions...what's that spell?
McCain is feisty. He was never fit to be president, but this is where he is great. Military issues, cutting through BS, etc.
Judging by Twitter it looks like "What difference does it make?" is the line that stuck.
If that is indeed the case then a great many political ads were just written.
Something happened, she's not sure why the security was never improved, but she has appointed a new deputy because she is sad and she never wants to go through that again.
This whole Benghazi thing was very hard on her.
And, it was much harder on the four Americans who died, and on their families. That is the thing that must be kept in mind when she and other Dems and state dept. personnel whine about how hard it was on them.
And, the issue was never, really, why the security was not improved, but, rather, why, a month earlier, it was greatly decreased, over the protests of the people who knew the situation there the best, including the late ambassador.
Our Dumb Senator (Ron Johnson) got his tits lit up pretty good by Hillary. What an embarrassed.
Durbin is a moron.
jd said ...
... i love the overwhelming sadness of the commenters ...
I think if you polled the commenter crowd here you would not find anyone who thought Hilary would be slain figuratively or otherwise.
Myself, I expected exactly what she has put forth about when who knew what. In short, nothing but baloney. I've repeatedly said, since this all began, why I think that way...based upon my own personal on-duty experience with hostile incident/disaster notification procedures.
To paraphrase an old military ground forces radio call term, she and/or her senior leaders, as well as the military/DoD, got a "Broken Arrow" call and they failed to respond. It really is thagt simple.
Recently reported is the issue of a communication from Benghazi the morning of 11 Sep 2012, Benghazi time, that the contracted security force of Libyans had said they couldn't and wouldn't defend the Consulate and Annex. In other words, State knew in advance the fugits were heading for the fan blades....and then sat on their hands.
Safire on Hillary:
Americans of all political persuasions are coming to the sad realization that our First Lady... is a congenital liar.*
William Safire, Blizzard of Lies
*The first word I had in mind was 'prevaricator,' which means 'liar,' and the second one was 'dissembler,' which also means 'liar.'"
Boring. The beat goes on.
Bruce- it was decreased because someone decreased it. Heaven knows, had Hillary known she would have wanted things to happen so she did not have to be so sad about the people who died.
Besides, how dare you ask! Four people are dead? Lets move forward!
Leave it to the Dems to make this a spending issue.
I like the way Hillary didn't answer McCains's questions.
And Dick Durbin chimes in with "Bush!"
These people are pathetic.
A couple of more years of this gang of criminals and communists and we will consider ourselves lucky if the Army were to administer the Allende solution.
Crying. I thought feminists were against acting all girly-girl and housewifey. You went out, told the guy the kid was yours not his, had the abortion, and, when you went back to work after a gourmet lunch, cursed the door off the hinges.
This is the Hillary who wouldn't stay home and bake cookies.
This is the Hillary who dodged sniper fire (Roger J and AllenS were there; they have her pants, they have them to this day).
This is the Hillary that can drink any man under the table and then go home and munch muff with Huma all night.
And she's crying? Just like she did when she blew the IA caucuses?
Whatever was left after Gloria Steinbrenner made excuses for Willie, Hillary just killed.
jd said...
hahaha i love the overwhelming sadness of the commenters as they realize that there isn't going to be the slaying of Hillary they'd hoped it would be.
Revealing the leftists are joyful that our government is successfully suppressing information about what led to the deaths of 4 Americans.
It sounds like Hillary Clinton has done a good job focusing on the trees, but has been missing the forest.
Hillary "crying", Bill is either great coach or his act has just rubbed off on her.
Hillary's failure was not declaring Benghazi a "Gun Free Zone."
Hillary is asked about specific trees, but she talks about forests.
How do you spell Kabuki?
Hillary need a small fan to wave in front of her face.
Must be getting kind of warm
Fuck yeah, Rand.
That depends on the definition of "bunker".
@Marshall--
not at all! I want all the information out there--which is why I'm thrilled Hillary is testifying right now. About Benghazi and Baghdad (there were a couple thousand of Americans who died there a few years ago because the pentagon couldn't be bothered to prepare for the war they were fomenting).
Neither leftist nor rightist. American. Try it some time.
Rand Paul!
Hillary has taken responsibility, but she wants Rand Paul to know she wasn't really responsible.
She is a congenital liar, she dodges relevant questions, but she gladly accepts praise. She's terrible.
Look at her husband. She's had 40 years to learn.
Rand Paul: Benghazi "the worst tragedy since 9/11"
LOL
The Professor wanted Dems to own Security, that's why she voted for them before.
Black girl drama works for Secretary of State? Scream, holla, wave your arms and intimidate your opponent! Is this is her style as a diplomat?
Nonapod suggests that no one will want to be an Ambassador in the Middle East! Now that we know that the Algerians that attacked the gas plant were really those same Libyan "protestors", I'm not sure any American is safe anywhere in the Middle East!
How dare they?
4 people dead!
That's how they dare.
Someone better dare!
Hillary has taken responsibility, but she wants Rand Paul to know she wasn't really responsible.
The Obama administration version of taking responsibility consists of stating that they take responsibility without actually suffering any of the consequences of being responsible.
They did take responsibility! They fired 3 people and then gave them a new office and a new phone number!
jd said...
(there were a couple thousand of Americans who died there a few years ago because the pentagon couldn't be bothered to prepare for the war they were fomenting
You're a fucking idiot.
Sen. Durbin brings up Bush admin's insistence that Iraq had WMD's - in arguing that Obama admin is not engaged in a Benghazi coverup.
I love the left's "logic" in action.
Look for beefed up security measures going forward:
1) Declare all U.S. Embassies and Annexes "Gun Free Zones".
2) Push for Global Assault Weapons ban.
Dems, "well what about 911?" I blame 911 on The Mistress of Disaster Jamie Gerlock's wall memos at DOJ, but no problem, we rewarded her with a milliare appointment over at Fannie Mae, oops!
jd said...
@ Althouse--
when you're get blog hits by making lame and cheap conspiracy theories, people rightly make lame and cheap jokes at your expense.
And I'm not being sarcastic
It is only "lame and cheap" in hindsight. If you didn't wonder if the medical condition was a contrivance given the Clintons' history, you're either a fool or have been politically asleep for many years. No offense.
jd said...
Neither leftist nor rightist. American.
Very common belief from people whose ideology is so innate they cannot recognize it as separate from themselves.
I want all the information out there
Sure you do, that's why you're cheering her stonewalling effort and attacking those trying to discover the facts.
garage mahal said...
Our Dumb Senator (Ron Johnson) got his tits lit up pretty good by Hillary.
Right.
Because "what difference does it make" is a great soundbyte.
Idiot.
@Marshal. No, really, I want all information out there. thanks!
And she says, "what does it matter now".
Geeze people dead and, ops, bygones! Somehow she didn't see the memos from her own ambassador.
Dog must have ate them!
That is the whole view Obama's administration has. Bygones! No biggie. Let's party (on your dime.)
And Hillary... she will get on TV just like old 'Dollar' Bill and say... "I didn't see the memo" with tears in her eyes.
Till one day the memos do show she saw them! But by then.. bygones!
Rehearsed weeping? Check.
Rehearsed "How DARE You, Senator" table-pounding indignation? Check.
Frankly I hope someone on the committee actually asks her whether she rehearsed the latter (and, although it is a riskier question, also the former).
Utterly fake. "I take responsibility for it, but I didn't read that and that, didn't know anything and -- after four months to prepare -- am STILL not answering any unanswered questions.
Filibuster, stonewall, cry, pound the table. HILLARY '16.
It is so comforting to know Ron Johnson's penetrating questions really amount to "what difference does it make," as he has really made little difference as a representative for Wisconsin--except for a few sound bites on Fox.
Nobody lies with a straight face while claiming outrage at being questioned quite like a Clinton.
Has anyone asked Hillary what the Administration's plan was to stabilize Libya after we entered into a war of choice for regime change against a nation that didn't attack us, posed no imminent threat to the United States?
Because it sure seems there is a lot of amnesia over the whole war of choice thing.
Thank God, I'm not still in the military. These people will leave you and forget about you in a New York minute.
When does Sean Hannity get his turn at this hearing?
Hillary, "a vast right-wing conspiracy", actually the only conspiracy was between Bill's penis, a cigar and an intern's mouth and blue dress. Anything but the truth, they can't help themselves
garage mahal said...
Rand Paul: Benghazi "the worst tragedy since 9/11"
LOL
That's right. How many Americans were just murdered in Algeria?
The script she's reading from, wonder if it says 'show emotion'. Now of course, tough questions will just show how mean republicans are and that will be the focus of the media. It's vintage Clinton.
Sometimes I still dream of Hillary becoming POTUS for the entertainment value of Bill being first husband. The battles between the two would be epic.
sorry this is not the scandal you thought it was going to be...hillary's doing just fine, and I can hear the air go out of the balloon.
Actually the scandal is why we engaged in regime change in Libya after we were told by this very Administration how bad it is to do that.
Then having no plan for the aftermath, we leave our ambassador in a destabilized nation.
I take it thats fine with you?
roesch/voltaire said...
It is so comforting to know Ron Johnson's penetrating questions really amount to "what difference does it make," as he has really made little difference as a representative for Wisconsin
That's right!
He's no Herb Kohl, dammit!
Idiot.
I got stopped about 1.5 minutes into her opening statement. HA! She opened with The Clinton Defense. (So named by me from Bill Clinton' use of it during his troubles. "Everyone else does it, so no big deal.")
"Hey. Our people are being bombed and shot at overseas all the time. I'M the victim here. You meanies are just picking on me, when everyone else does it."
Ok. back to the video for more torture.
Hillary in high dudgeon, academy award stuff.
"...the countless successes, the many times similar tragedies have been prevented..." (paraphrased from Hillary)
Yes, and think of the countless times firearms available to potential victims of crime have prevented the crime.
I'm ready for the "Shaggy Defense".
And she'd have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling Republicans!!
One thing is certain, unlike Hillary, those people really were dodging sniper fire.
Hillary did a great job, strong, concise, human, I knew she would be.
I'm glad she looks fit and healthy.
Hillary was very forth coming and honest in the Senate hearing, she shed so much light on ...................
The hearings are over, the democrat Senators retired to the cloak room to wipe Hilary's smegma off each other's chins.
Hillary did a great job, strong, concise, human,
You left out forthcoming.
Hillary had to spend years in *gasp* Arkansas! And now there are those who dare question her. Will the suffering of this paragon of all that is noble and good and SACRIFICING never end?!?!
Compared to you, perhaps she does look fit. Low bar to meet I suppose.
I noticed you did not laud old camel thighs for being honest or forthcoming.
I may concede your description of her as human, again a very low bar to meet.
Partisan hack.
She does look good today. I wonder if she did have cosmetic surgery while she was out of the public eye for all of those weeks.
April Apple said I am watching it now. My heavens she is such a bullshitter. and not very effective. She will never be president. Never.
Huh? !?
I thought that was the prime pre-requisite. Got Obama elected. Twice!
Inga said...
Hillary did a great job, strong, concise, human, I knew she would be.
two things to remember:
1. she's smarter than you
2. she's dumber than the dumbest licensed attorney in D.C.
"But what about this chain email I'm looking at and that Fox Nation report?!!"
Inga said...
Hillary did a great job, strong, concise, human, I knew she would be.
Too funny.
You're like totally unbiased too!
Hillary, Goddess of Washington, protected by Washington.
Roger J. said: To me the bottom line is this: the administration succeeded in kicking the Benghazi can down the road until after the election.
Yup.
Do any of the Administrations supporters on this forum think Obamas decision to engage in regime change in Libya was a good idea?
I watched a short segment sent to me by a liberal FB friend which he thought showed Hillary in a good light.
She lied her ass off, sidestepped her attack on the First Amendment and pulled the "How dare you question my authority" BS!
All in all, a hanging offense if the administration were Republican.
Democrats, now that they hold the presidency, have become ass kissers of authority in a way that is hilarious. I'll never take that "Question Authority" shit from them again.
Liberals need to change that old slogan from:
Speaking truth to power!
To
Sucking cock because we have the power!
"Inga said...
Hillary did a great job, strong, concise, human, I knew she would be."
Uh huh. Her self-righteous reply of "what difference does it make?!" when asked about the facts of the case was certainly "concise". Also disgraceful, weak, and cowardly. But concise.
They show CNN continuously in our company cafeteria. They showed a clip of her looking indignant and pounding her fists.
Don't know what she was saying at the time, but the fist pounding was a dead giveaway that she was lying at the time.
Bryan C said...
"Inga said...
Hillary did a great job, strong, concise, human, I knew she would be."
Thank god we get the DNC talking points delivered. I constantly worry I might get through the day without learning what Democrats wish the apolitical to believe.
Hillary did a great job, strong, concise, human, I knew she would be.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Inga Benghazi posts go into the sinkhole.
Move along, nothing to see here.
It's just "bad luck."
Don't know what she was saying at the time, but the fist pounding was a dead giveaway that she was lying at the time.
Wait till she starts using her shoe.
If you want to know what really happened when someone screws up, you don't get the best info from the one with their ass on the line.
Did someone ask her if she was glad she retired as SOS before al Qaeda was able to distribute all those shoulder-launched missles she let them get from Gaddafi?
We know she can dodge sniper fire with her broken field running techniques, but she'd be a sitting duck in an aircraft hit by a point-and-shoot missle that anyone can expertly use.
I didn't have a chance to watch the hearings.
Did anyone ask Hillary why this administration is facilitating the takeover of some many formerly stable regimes by the Muslim Brotherhood and other radical Islamist groups?
Are they going to do anything about Syria or will they just ignore it? What about Mali? Are we going hands off and are we pulling back all across the board?
Did they put her feet to the fire to get some answers or was it the same old bullshit just a different day?
Oh and why are we shipping those tanks and munitions to Egypt? Is that a good idea now with this new government?
Rand Paul says Hillary should've been fired. CNN's Terry Moran asks what his bona fides for foreign service are.
Ummm...what the hell were Hillary's qualifications?
Inga said...
Hillary did a great job, strong, concise, human, I knew she would be.
Right.
Notice you have zero interests in facts or the truth. Nor are you interested in accountability.
I mean, the dead Ambassador sent a request to Hillary Clinton regarding extra security. Said request was ignorned.
But don't worry Hillary looked human!
Idiot.
Clinton's a twice elected U.S. Senator. She's a club member. Very few hard questions will be asked by other U.S. Senators elected multiple times.
Inga, I never met a truly crap character that wasn't housed in a human looking, fun loving, good talking weasel.
There was zero new information.
There was zero clarity and consicision.
There was zero accountability.
It was all words, words, words.
Spun so gracefully; so elegantly; so wistfully; so marvelously.
And you were wafted away, you silly, shallow woman, you.
Meanwile, you and your children and grandchildren are being robbed and lied to every day.
But you are in la la land.
Hmmm, Inga loves Michelle & Hillary's superficiality.
Their image is all that matters.
It's all about appearance.
The substance is just "bad luck."
She laid down quite a thicket of words. It's amazing that she was able to enunciate so many words and say nothing. It's a real talent. I don't think Kerry is able to say so many words, although it must be said that his delivery is far more torpor inducing.
Where's the Purple Owie on her noggin?
PS Can you imagine Admiral Kimmel or General Short at the Pearl Harbor inquiry saying, "What difference does it make?!"?
Well, at least the Romster is being vindicated.
PPS If she used her "sick" time to get "a little work done", she ought to put a sign on her face saying, "Dig We Must For a Greater New York".
Are they going to do anything about Syria or will they just ignore it? What about Mali? Are we going hands off and are we pulling back all across the board?
If they possess even a squirrels IQ, let's hope so. Hope Assad prevails since the alternative is Libya. Let the French handle Mali. After all, it was their colony, let them clean it up.
As Oop talks about how "human" Hillary was, the same can be said of Adolf, Joe, Mao, and Saddam.
My oh my, how you people spin.
Can't wait until later today for some more of her testimony before the House? Perhaps someone else will ask her about that cable and get a better answer than McCain did.
My oh my, how you people spin.
My oh my, Inga, what a cocksucker you've become!
PS Can you imagine Admiral Kimmel or General Short at the Pearl Harbor inquiry saying, "What difference does it make?!"?
Yes, if the statement ended with"...the President has been frothing at the mouth to get us in this war, now we are"!
That Ben Ghazi guy...what a tool!
Running around making videos, getting Hilary in trouble, making her cry.
Glad he's gone. I second Hilary's "Who cares?!"
Can't wait until later today for some more of her testimony before the House? Perhaps someone else will ask her about that cable and get a better answer than McCain did.
Inga, do you think she should be asked why she supported military action to engage in regime change in Libya and yet had no plan for its aftermath which one could connect the dots up to the murders of our staff there?
Is that a fair question?
The true believers on the left will never accept their leaders can do anything wrong and will march in lock step to their command. Clinton, Obama, Pelosi, Reid are the high priests of their religion. To question them would be to question everything they believe and thus turn into an exercise in self-loathing.
jd said...
hahaha i love the overwhelming sadness of the commenters as they realize that there isn't going to be the slaying of Hillary they'd hoped it would be.
No sadness. None at all. Your perception is waaaaaaaaaaaa breathes aaaaaaaay off and so is your remark. Nobody here expected anything out of that woman. Nobody. Nobody believes a word emanating from her corrupted mouth, except her sycophants and they believe everything that fits their reality and dismiss everything else .
No sadness. None at all.
It's not Hillary's performance that makes me sad, Chip.
It's the cocksucking of authority that those great challengers of authority, Democratic liberals, are engaging in now that their guy holds the power.
It's a hellish display.
Yes, it's a fair question. Why does anyone, including Republicans like McCain support intervention in regime change in sovereign countries? We need to not involve ourselves in other countries revolutions.
We need to stay out of it and keep our diplomatic staff out of those countries also.
Inga said...
Hillary did a great job, strong, concise, human, I knew she would be.
I'm glad she looks fit and healthy.
That's quite a flippant statement. 4 Americans are dead, Hillary is avoiding any questions, and all you can say is that she looks good. Well, I've said this before and I'll say it again, what if your daughter had been killed, and someone was questioned about the circumstances, and they started bullshitting their way out of the responsibility, and someone on this blog made a flippant statement. I'd bet money, you'd be pissed. But, since the people who were killed aren't related to you, who gives a fuck, right?
Inga,
When Bush went after the Talbain and Al Queda he invaded the countries harboring them. In doing so he kept a power vacuum from happening. It was the only wise way to fight.
But Obama instead a) shortened the 'surge' in Afghanistan from 50,000 men to 40,000 and thus failed. In Libya he used drones and air strikes and did not send in boots on the ground. And thus he failed (and simply left a power vacuum for the terrorist to take over.) Same thing with Egypt. Yes failed again. And now it's Mali!
In order to destroy an enemy and yet sow the seeds of peace you need to stay there till a responsible government can be emplaced.
Can you imagine after WW2 we not occupy Germany or Japan and let the Nazis and Tojoites stay in power?
There are times for war and times for peace, but when you do make war you do it well or don't do it at all.
Gadafi could have stayed in power and NONE of what has happened in Algeria or Libya would have occured.
Why does anyone, including Republicans like McCain support intervention in regime change in sovereign countries?
Way to change the subject. Get back on track.
AllenS,
How dare you ask hypothetical questions about imaginary children? Have you no decency, sir? No shame?
How dare point out the hypocrital partisan mental gymnastics people go through to excuse their political deities?
If Inga is a stupid ignorant hypocrite with no consistency or principles beyond whatever the latest leftwing talking point is, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE???
I Callahan, I answered Colonel Angus' question, I wasn't changing the subject.
"Inga, do you think she should be asked why she supported military action to engage in regime change in Libya and yet had no plan for its aftermath which one could connect the dots up to the murders of our staff there?
Is that a fair question?"
1/23/13, 12:09 PM
Inga, I'll bet you don’t' realize that in pushing into Iraq and staying there for so long, Bush created a magnet trap - a terrorist roach hotel - that drew in all the fanatics from the region where the American army could kill them.
It made Cairo, Amman, the Saudi peninsula, North Africa, safer places because the real hard core went to Iraq to fight and try to kill American troops.
It also split Syria and Iran in two, making their alliance more difficult, and causing them more concern for who was on their border.
But why do I bother, you probably don’t care about such strategy as that.
Yes, it's a fair question. Why does anyone, including Republicans like McCain support intervention in regime change in sovereign countries? We need to not involve ourselves in other countries revolutions.
We need to stay out of it and keep our diplomatic staff out of those countries also.
I'll remind you then that Hillary, the one you were earlier showering with accolades, was a big proponent of the Libyan regime change.
You might wish to keep that in mind when gush over how human she is.
Is that a fair question?"
Wasn't that the chief criticism the left stuck on Bush - that he didn't plan sufficiently for what comes after the Iraq invastion.
And Obama made the exact same mistake.
After all the arrogant and smarmy criticism of Bush, and the genious boy Obama did the exact same blunder.
Rand Paul did a great job questioning her.
She mostly looks bored, with her chin cupped in her hand. When she does answer him, it's all ums and ahs and bureaucrateze.
Any honest liberal would be embarrassed by her performance.
Freder Frederson said..."Gee, and I thought she was going to fake her death to avoid testifying! You must be so disappointed."
Have you ever noticed how lame and cheap sarcasm like that is?
Also, you are making up shit about me, so you need to do a better job of it than just a weak pooping of sarcasm. Now, sharpen up or you will be deleted as a troll when you do this in the future.
What's wrong with you Frederson? Why do you want to destroy the conversation and drive people away from this forum?
You and your ulterior motives, Frederson. Not. edgy.
Rand Paul:
"If I were President"... That says it all, any honest conservative or libertarian would be embarrassed by his performance.
In Inga's pigheaded (and bodied) little world:
Rand Paul: Doing his job, attempting to find out what happened at Benghazi and why no one was held accountable = embarassing performance.
Hillary Clinton: Failed at her job, lied through her teeth about it, and continues to lie under oath = great job, strong, concise, human.
Inga must have started her day off with a big bowl of Quaker instant bitch, because she is especially cuntastic today.
Didn't see you reply to AllenS either, hag. Miss that one? Do you need some Hilary!esque new glasses to better read the screen?
Inga said...
Rand Paul:
"If I were President"... That says it all, any honest conservative or libertarian would be embarrassed by his performance.
Really? Why?
Or are you just happy making silly, sweeping, bullshit statements?
Inga said...
My oh my, how you people spin.
Really? How? What is being "spun" exactly?
Or are you just happy making silly, sweeping, bullshit statements?
Inga must have started her day off with a big bowl of Quaker instant bitch, because she is especially cuntastic today.
I want YOU for the face of the Republican and Tea Parties.
You da man. You da "cuntastic" man!
He's all yours, kids.
LOLOLOL
There goes Inga trying to shame conservatives again.
No such thing anymore.
We take our cues from our betters.
jd wrote: "sorry this is not the scandal you thought it was going to be...hillary's doing just fine, and I can hear the air go out of the balloon."
Yeah. There is no reality. Nobody was killed. No negligence or incompetence. No lying.
Oh. And Obama cut the national debt in half. He's doing just fine too.
The world according to Obamadupes.
I feel sorry for the parents of those 4 dead.
They know what's happening.
"If the president will not bring himself to accept reality, it is time for Congress to bring reality to him."
- Senator and presidential candidate Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, grandstanding from the floor of the U.S. Senate May 3, 2007
How am I trying to shame you? You're doing a fine job all on your own.:)
Benghazi had been experiencing major unrest at the time (pretty much the entire time since the war started). In times of such unrest embassies and consulates MUST have heightened security. As far as on-the-ground security goes, the administration treated Benghazi as if it were Luxembourg.
Go on Phx, defend her. Jump in defend that poor damsel in distress.
Fuck you and what you want. I represent no one but myself. I have no affiliation with any party. I am a citizen disgusted with the state of the country, disgusted with the state of leadership at all levels, and disgusted by the cheerleaders and apologists like you.
You cry and whine about civility and harsh language while ignoring all substance and the actual topic of the thread, which is the farce being put on by the sitting secretary of state.
But by all means, some mean words typed that upset a foolish old woman on the internet obviously is the real story.
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Yes, it's a fair question. Why does anyone, including Republicans like McCain support intervention in regime change in sovereign countries?
Stop changing the subject.
OBAMA and HILLARY did this.
They alone did this.
What anybody else wants to do is immaterial.
These two people you don't respect enough to hold to the standards you hold people you despise did the damage. Stop trying to justify it.
Maybe you don't mind sacrificing your daughter for the sake Obama, but most parents would find such an attitude offensive.
phx rants...
I want YOU for the face of the Republican and Tea Parties.
You da man. You da "cuntastic" man!
He's all yours, kids.
He's no more the face of Republicans than say Andy R is face of Democrats.
Grow the fuck up and show some consistency!
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