The 2 mega pop stars just shook hands, and nothing (apparently) was said about that inconvenient lyric of his that goes:
Kill those fucking Yankees who have been torturing Iraqi captives
Kill those fucking Yankees who ordered them to torture
Kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law, and fathers
Kill them all slowly and painfully
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Are you terribly surprised by this grotesquerie?
It would be nice to have a president who at least pretended to be offended by such things.
Oh, and also:
HA HA! It's so fun to have such a Cool President! He says he can do the stupid dance that all the easily entertained simpletons are captivated by! Can he do the Not Impressed face again!? That was sooooooo funny!
This incident pretty much speaks for itself.
The two tiresome mega pop stars.
Psy is so two months ago.
i can't think of a better metaphor for this presidency
Decades into the future, a historian will try to write a serious book about the Obama presidency: "He was the first black president. The end.
Obama orders our soldiers into harms way and takes grandiose credit for their triumphs. Some would even say he knowingly squanders their triumphs when it is politically expedient.
And the respect Obama shows in return is to have a party with a celebrity that not only calls for our soldiers to be brutally killed, but also for their families to be brutally killed.
But this is who America reelected. This is what "we" want. Celebrity.
Birds of a feather...
"that inconvenient lyric"
Obama knows them by heart.
Learned 'em at his momma's knee.
Ever since, he's hummed that pretty tune to himself every day.
The mainstream press won't report it to the point where it is commonly known, therefore the nation will not have to ask:
1. Is the president so clueless that he doesn't know the slimy past of a White House guest?
2. The president does not have any problem with Psy's view of America and our military.
Wouldn't it be nice to have a President instead of a "mega pop star"?
Sorun said...
Decades into the future, a historian will try to write a serious book about the Obama presidency: "He was the first black president. The end.
No, that's Willie.
Zero is the first Lesbian american Indian President.
You have to keep up with these things.
"Kill that fucking Korean who have been calling for American deaths
Kill that fucking Psy who ordered them to torture
Kill his children, mother, children-in-law, and fathers
Kill them all slowly and painfully."
---Hey Psy, wanna hang out?
Remember, lefties, he wants you dead, too.
Can anyone imagine President Reagan doing this? Bush the elder? Or the younger, for that matter?
My how fast we have fallen in such a short time.
Two questions:
1. Is PSY short for PSYcho?
2. When he sings "Kill those fucking Yankees who ordered them to torture" and continues with "Kill their daughters" and doesn't mention their sons, is he specifically thinking of Obama, Bush, Clinton, or all three? They have five daughters and no sons between them. (Come to think of it, Cheney also has only daughters.) Of course, PSY does go on to mention "daughters-in-law", which implies sons, but apparently the sons get to live.
So:
a. PSY seems a bit misogynistic, wanting to kill the daughters and daughters-in-law but not the sons (if any). Or maybe he's just confused.
b. References to daughters take him more than half-way to a specific death-threat against the current president and one or two of his immediate predecessors. The references may not be quite clear enough to be prosecutable, but they sure as heck ought to be enough to convince the Secret Service to keep him far away from Obama, Bush II, or Clinton - and their daughters.
Which brings up another question: Did Sasha and Malia get to meet this delightful person? (I can't be bothered to read the news stories to find out.) If so, do they know he wants them to be killed? That's the clear implication of his lyrics.
I was at the Army Navy game on Saturday and it is a tradition to show home-made videos done by the cadets or the middies. The gangnam dancing was used in many of the videos and was a big hit with the fans in attendance. Americans are a forgiving people but a President should be much more selective in who he invites to the People's House.
Reverend Wright couldn't have said it better!
Just think: If Psy made a film instead of a song he would be a right wing martyr!
Obama prefers adolescence over honor.
Dr Weevil, this which explains why he talked about American daughters:Yangju highway incident
Ann Coulter has wondered that if Psy had said something hateful about gays whether the President would have been so quick to accept his apology.....Perhaps when Psy hates on Americans, Obama doesn't figure he's hating on true Americans like himself. Psy's hating on those Americans who think Obama is not a true, patriotic American. In his way, Psy is the real American patriot.
Lets give Psy what he wants but with a twist: let's pull out of South Korea and let the northern and southern gooks kill each other off. They aren't white so why should we care?
Come on Psy, beg us to get out so we won't run the risk of killing non whites if the latest Little Kim decides to nuts and start another war against South Korea.
Obama is the insult machine that never stops insulting America. If we are going to have an Insulter In Chief, lets get a professional comedian. At least Don Rickles is actually funny unlike Zero.
"This story — which is still unconfirmed — was first reported in English a few months ago on CNN's citizen-reporting site iReport"
From the Gawker piece Althouse linked to.
Great post! Makes me feel ten years younger!
A competent leader would take advantage of the protocol staff of the White House to let him know of potential pitfalls. But since Valerie Jarrett took over this role, all types of faux pas have happened. But since Obama can do no wrong, evidently all prior good practice is out the window.
@Aj Lynch:
The gangnam dancing was used in many of the videos and was a big hit with the fans in attendance.
---Or they were just unaware. Don't forget the vast majority of people don't follow politics and international scandals like political blog readers---even soliders-in-training.
Given that it's finals time at all colleges (including West Point and Annapolis) and this is a relatively minor issue, globally speaking, (though Psy deserves to be hung for it), and that these are 18-22 year old guys who right now are more immediately concerned with not getting demerits and passing the strategy class and watching the football game and getting laid...
oh, and most major media sources have a major black out (or at least brown out) on this issue...
well, let's just say it's understandable if the majority there don't know about it.
Ignorance is not forgiveness.
Obama listened to goddamn America sermons for 20 years, why do you think he would be offended by some Korean rapper calling for the death of Americans?
AF said...
Great post! Makes me feel ten years younger!
The stupids are back.
Just think: If Psy made a film instead of a song he would be a right wing martyr!
Why do you think that? Unlike the leftwing, the right is very supportive of the US military and their families.
I wonder where Psy would be today if not for those Yankees that gave their lives in Korea.
I wonder if the invite would have been rescinded had Psy made a video about burning a Koran or insulting Muhammad.
/rhetorical
Though I haven't been to Korea, it's my experience that when Asians (in Asia) refer to "Americans" or "Yankees," it's white Americans they're talking about. Whites are not one of Obama's constituency groups.
The mainstream press won't report it to the point where it is commonly known
Again, an embedded video would help. (As James Boorstin once remarked, "Nothing is really real unless it happens on television.")
It would also help if the original lyrics were in English instead of Korean.
Upon hearing the lyrics, Obama wondered when his friend Bill Ayers had turned into a pudgy, effeminate Korean.
He says he can dance. Do we really need to see him do it, or just find out "boxers or briefs".
If Boner had some, he would sing this to Obama (or his minion) next time they met on budget talks.
Personally, I would like to see a complete military withdrawal from South Korea and Japan. Both countries are sufficiently wealthy that they can maintain an effective military deterrant without relying on US personnel.
On a similar note, they certainly don't merit sacrificing American lives for their security.
Evidently to Obama, the future belongs to those who wish death on Americans.
garage mahal said...
Just think: If Psy made a film instead of a song he would be a right wing martyr!
Perhaps if Psy had been jailed and silenced he would be.
It's the celebration of Psy by your hero that upsets people.
Is that too simple for you to understand, garage?
Kill those fucking Yankees who have been torturing Iraqi captives
Kill those fucking Yankees who ordered them to torture
Surprised nobody has noticed the John Yoo irony. Yoo even looks like Psy.
John Choon Yoo (born July 10, 1967) is an American attorney, law professor, and author. As a former official in the United States Department of Justice during the George W. Bush administration, he became known as the author of the Torture Memos on the use of what the CIA called enhanced interrogation techniques.
Yoo emigrated with his parents from South Korea to the United States as an infant. He grew up in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, graduating from the Episcopal Academy in 1985. He earned a B.A. degree summa cum laude in American history from Harvard University in 1989 and a J.D. from Yale Law School in 1992. Yoo was admitted to practice law in Pennsylvania in 1993. From 1995 to 1996, he was general counsel for the Senate Judiciary Committee. He is married to Elsa Arnett, the daughter of Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Peter Arnett.
Personally, I would like to see a complete military withdrawal from South Korea and Japan.
The U.S. is downsizing in Germany, isn't it? Considering there's no Communist threat left, it's kind of surprising that we haven't totally withdrawn.
Re: Colonel Angus:
Personally, I would like to see a complete military withdrawal from South Korea and Japan. Both countries are sufficiently wealthy that they can maintain an effective military deterrant without relying on US personnel.
They can, but the concern we should have is whether they would then each feel it necessary to declare as nuclear powers, destabilising the East Asian power balance. Japan easily has the technical capabilities to develop a nuclear weapon (if they don't have one already). Until 2004, South Korea also had an active, covert program to weaponise uranium (in violation, I believe, of the 1994 Agreed Framework).
Also, quick question, as I cannot find a video of the original performance -- is Psy signing/talking in Korean or English? My guess is English (all the Korean articles I see render his lines slightly differently, and with less profanity), but I also wouldn't be surprised to discover that American journalists, with their usual ignorance, are just passing along a sexed up translation.
I'm sure Obama thinks he could do the dance, but he has his legacy to think about and all......
Ah, I see from the Gawker article now that it must have been Korean originally . . . the Korean language press is just bowdlerizing the lyrics (or back-translating from English language articles).
The U.S. is downsizing in Germany, isn't it? Considering there's no Communist threat left, it's kind of surprising that we haven't totally withdrawn.
I would go further and dissolve NATO. Outside of Britain, France and Germany, the rest don't have militaries inasmuch as they are nothing more than slightly better armed SWAT teams. NATO could barely maintain the air war in Libya without our assistance.
They can, but the concern we should have is whether they would then each feel it necessary to declare as nuclear powers, destabilising the East Asian power balance.
Why would this be destabilizing? Currently both nations enjoy our protective nuclear security blanket. Our withdrawal would only mean our nukes are replaced by their own, should they choose to arm.
Quite frankly I think our financial unsustainability of being Europe and Asia's protector coupled with our ever increasing welfare state are a bigger threat than Japanese or ROK nukes.
Look on the bright side, if the Asian theater decides to beat the hell out of itself, we could find ourselves enjoying those halcyon days of the 1950s when American manufacturing was at its height and outsourcing wasn't even in the vocabulary.
Dustin said...
Obama orders our soldiers into harms way and takes grandiose credit for their triumphs. Some would even say he knowingly squanders their triumphs when it is politically expedient.
And the respect Obama shows in return is to have a party with a celebrity that not only calls for our soldiers to be brutally killed, but also for their families to be brutally killed.
But this is who America reelected. This is what "we" want. Celebrity.
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If Republicans will not learn and think the only reason we lost was America now wants anti-American celebrity, the full gay agenda, and mo' free stuff for Obamaphone mommas - they are missing the core problems:
1. Reaganism is a dead force. People no longer believe supply side economics grows the economy, no longer believe tax cuts for the rich pays for itself or creates jobs. 11 years of Bush-Obama proved that the 80s were a growth period for reasons other than supply side and tax cuts for the rich.
2. America is sick of Neocon wars that never end, and believe the Democrats will keep us out of such morasses.
3. 30 years of scandal and recurrent collapses in banking and finance have made Americans think the Leaders of Wall Street are not to be trusted and the Democrats can keep a better eye on them.
4. The problem with fixing all praise on the Owner class who "built that!" - is Republicans were out saying they would champion 2% of the population while the Democrats focused on the other 98% - the workers and customers. And while many workers like The Boss - they don't worship The Boss. And have different priorities.
5. Even though Clinton was also culpable - Republicans hold the bad for the gutting of American jobs due to Republican Reagan era dogma that Free Trade creates jobs instead of gutting them - and Republicans got pinned with the Party of Outsourcing as well.
6. The Religious Right goobers dominate the Deep South and Republican platform on issues like rights of rape zygotes and creationism and other stupid unproductive stuff that drives everyday secular women away in droves.
is Psy signing/talking in Korean or English?
Gangham style is in Korean. Not sure about the other songs/
Psy living in a capitalist, free country is directly due to the deaths of those fucking yankees he wants to kill.
A little perspective pop star.
Trey
Gangham style is in Korean.
Not all of it - there are English words scattered about, including the word "Korean."
Balfegor said...
Re: Colonel Angus:
Personally, I would like to see a complete military withdrawal from South Korea and Japan. Both countries are sufficiently wealthy that they can maintain an effective military deterrant without relying on US personnel.
They can, but the concern we should have is whether they would then each feel it necessary to declare as nuclear powers, destabilising the East Asian power balance.
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Not so. We can withdraw the "Heroes with boots on the ground" - as even back as far as 1950s we saw each outing of the ground grunts as horrifically expensive and of little value in swinging any conflict we entered. With a big chunk of the AF and Navy budget in theater used simply to protect ground troops that usually could not defeat the enemy.
The Army is far less useful to US security or even helping in other country's defense - than the other branches.
Withdraw the Army from S Korea. Leave Japan and S Korea with a commitment for air and naval support and the nuclear umbrella. And force the S Koreans to start paying for part of US defense costs like Japan has long done.
Withdraw the Army from S Korea. Leave Japan and S Korea with a commitment for air and naval support and the nuclear umbrella.
Why even do that? In your previous post you were bemoaning neo-con wars so why should we commit to a nuclear conflict over a nation whose populace is at best, indifferent toward us?
Our nuclear arsenal should only be used in matters of our own national security.
TMZ has the video.
It's in Korean but I think it's interesting how many K-pop songs do have some English lines.
The song and the protest it was part of was a reaction to an accident where a U.S. armored vehicle struck and killed two Korean girls. The soldiers were acquitted of negligent homicide.
Just to show how apologetic someone can become when a nation he hates in song makes him rich or should I say 'richer'.
Again, anyone who takes their political understanding from ANY artist is a fool.
Obama is not only copacetic with the killing Americans concept, he bought the company!
The song and the protest it was part of was a reaction to an accident where a U.S. armored vehicle struck and killed two Korean girls. The soldiers were acquitted of negligent homicide.
According to WHO, 7,570 South Koreans died in traffic accidents. Going on the safe assumption that the US military wasn't involved in all of those, I wonder if Psy is demanding for the death of his own countrymen.
According to WHO, 7,570 South Koreans died in traffic accidents. Going on the safe assumption that the US military wasn't involved in all of those, I wonder if Psy is demanding for the death of his own countrymen.
If there is negligence, the Korean courts handle the matter. People were upset that our treaty with Korea lets the U.S. military try soldiers accused of a crime.
It probably doesn't bother Obama since part of the protest was anti-Bush. More of the story from 2002. Includes photos of the protest groups. Warning - there is a photo of the dead girls by the side of the road on "Photos: page 2".
I'm offering this as context, not as an excuse for the song.
Colonel Angus said...
Withdraw the Army from S Korea. Leave Japan and S Korea with a commitment for air and naval support and the nuclear umbrella.
Why even do that? In your previous post you were bemoaning neo-con wars so why should we commit to a nuclear conflict over a nation whose populace is at best, indifferent toward us?
Our nuclear arsenal should only be used in matters of our own national security
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Short-sighted.
Our national security is served by having a half dozen nuclear arms races in various regions of the world not happen.
Which they would if we withdrew the "nuclear umbrella".
Want Japan, Canada, Poland, Italy, Turkey, Germany, Switzerland, Korea, Taiwan, Australia, Saudi Arabia, S Africa (again) - to join the nuclear club of bomb-makers?
They could in a year, aside from KSA, which would buy theirs from Pakistan.
That would not be in America's, or the world's interests, obviously.
Well Obama used to drink with terrorst cop killers (like his buddy, Ayers) so what is new about him chumming up will terrorist or would-be terrorist singers? Hell he thinks Chavez is a great guy.
That is just par for the course with him. Bill Clinton was just a liar/adulter/pot smoker while Obama is a liar/murder/coke snorter. So chumming with this nutjob singer is no biggie.
See Ann, it's not hard to tell the truth if you just bear down and think logicly.
If there is negligence, the Korean courts handle the matter. People were upset that our treaty with Korea lets the U.S. military try soldiers accused of a crime.
I believe all our treaties require American military personnel to be tried under the UCMJ. This can be easily remedied by withdrawal of US military personnel. Allowing US military personnel to ve subject to Korean courts would only usher in a wave of witch hunts and false accusations.
RE: Cedarford:
Withdraw the Army from S Korea. Leave Japan and S Korea with a commitment for air and naval support and the nuclear umbrella. And force the S Koreans to start paying for part of US defense costs like Japan has long done.
How much is a security commitment from the US worth, without US troops in country as a trigger? Do you really think the American public will support getting involved in a real war -- not a dinky punitive expedition like we've been performing in Afghanistan/Iraq for the past decade -- but a war whose opening act will be the levelling of Seoul or a nuclear attack on Tokyo, with hundreds of thousands dead, millions diplaced, etc., without troops already in the line of fire? The pacificts will be screaming "No blood for cars! No blood for cellphones!" in the streets.
Re: Colonel Angus:
Cedarford has already noted this, but re: the nuclear umbrella, the destabilising element isn't that Korea or Japan couldn't establish the deterrent or be relied on to use it mostly responsibly -- it's what other countries would do in response. Which is either dramatically expand their nuclear arsenals (China), or accelerate their nuclear weapons programs (everyone else).
Oh, but he apologized.
Short-sighted. Our national security is served by having a half dozen nuclear arms races in various regions of the world not happen. Which they would if we withdrew the "nuclear umbrella".
Britain and France have substantial nuclear arsenals. Perhaps they can provide the appropriate umbrella. I don't see why we should continue endless neo con wars yet extend endless nuclear security arrangements to ungrateful 'allies'.
We are castigated for using nukes almost 70 years ago to defeat a brutal enemy that launched a sneak attack on us and dragged us into a horrific world war. Yet we would be expected to nuke say, Pyongyang if they nukes Seoul?
Nonsense.
Well, hey, after this revelation, like all of Obama's other affilial revelations, he can just the excuses he did before like he did with his fellow weather underground terrorist Ayers, his reverend, his mentor, et al.
Re: Colonel Angus:
Cedarford has already noted this, but re: the nuclear umbrella, the destabilising element isn't that Korea or Japan couldn't establish the deterrent or be relied on to use it mostly responsibly -- it's what other countries would do in response. Which is either dramatically expand their nuclear arsenals (China), or accelerate their nuclear weapons programs (everyone else).
Well looking at current events, the NORKS and Iranians are proceeding with nuke development and I would say they are direct threats. Japan or ROK developing nukes, not so much a threat to us.
Radical chic: Terrible words spoken from a comfortable couch in an ivory tower. The painless indulgence of someone else's dangerously radical agenda.
Do you really think the American public will support getting involved in a real war -- not a dinky punitive expedition like we've been performing in Afghanistan/Iraq for the past decade -- but a war whose opening act will be the levelling of Seoul or a nuclear attack on Tokyo, with hundreds of thousands dead, millions diplaced, etc., without troops already in the line of fire?
Quite frankly the American public would be demanding immediate withdrawal of American troops in that event. This country doesn't have the stomach for a real war. We've lost 6600 troops in the last 11 years which is less than the 6800 Marines and sailors killed in a little over a month on Iwo Jima. If CNN started listing American casualties in the hundreds on a daily basis in the ROK rest assured the American public would demand withdrawal.
I wonder what Psy thinks of Obama's progress in violent regime change, assassinations, "redistributive" (i.e. delegated) torture policies, weapons running (e.g. Benghazi), etc.
Does Psy know of Obama's progressive policies? Does Psy pose a credible threat to Obama's life?
Rappers transgress. It's part of the persona. This is not an excuse. It's an explanation.
Korean Rappers don't expect to find themselves suddenly famous in America.
I care less about what a Korean raps to be naughty on purpose, than what the anti-war outraged in the US had said with apparent political sincerity.
Also... Bill Ayers.
Somewhere Rev. Wright is smiling.
"Just think: If Psy made a film instead of a song he would be a right wing martyr!"
Free speech doesn't demand a visit to the White House. If someone "right wing" has been insisting that that Coptic fellow have a mini-film festival with the President, I missed it.
At this point I wouldn't pretend to guess what the general reaction of the American public would be if North Korea nuked Seoul or China nuked Tokyo.
For one thing it seems like an extreme highly unlikely scenario. But then again, if you'd have told me on September 10, 2001 that someone was going to crash two huge commercial airliners into the World Trade Center towers and bring them down killing 3000 people I would've been skeptical to say the least. Just because some horrific event seems highly unlikely to occur doesn't mean it won't occur.
I believe all our treaties require American military personnel to be tried under the UCMJ. This can be easily remedied by withdrawal of US military personnel. Allowing US military personnel to ve subject to Korean courts would only usher in a wave of witch hunts and false accusations.
12/10/12 12:30 PM
I would not want our military to be subject to foreign courts, but we made an exception once.
"If CNN started listing American casualties in the hundreds on a daily basis in the ROK rest assured the American public would demand withdrawal."
Which CNN would only do if a Republican is in the White House.
So the answer is, yes, the people of the US would support involvement in a "real war", but only if a Democrat is President.
Psy was one of the nominees for Time Magazine's Person of the Year but some creative people at 4chan/b/ decided to manipulate the poll and make Kim Jong Un the winner. If you look at the first letter of each person's name, the top ones spell out KJU Gas chamber, an allusion to North Korea's Camp 22.
Forgot the link to the poll results.
Back in the days of President Park Chung Yi, just saying the word "Yankee" could get you "detained" for a session with the oak staff with brass knob. In the 60's and 70's no one except Norks used the word "Yankee" and being suspected of that connection was a serious matter.
Little man PSY doesn't look like someone who spent much time, if any, with the ROK Army or Marines.
Nothing screams PRESIDENTIAL like the leader of the free world willingly sharing the stage with an oriental trash-rapper of questionable intellect.
Impressive.
Colonel Angus said...
I believe all our treaties require American military personnel to be tried under the UCMJ ...
Not necessarily...The US/ROK SOFA agreement of 1966 fully implemented in 1968-9 provided for Korean courts to try soldiers and civilians under Korean law for crimes committed off US compounds.
It was amended in 2001 as follows:
"ARTICLE I
Article XXII Paragraph 5 (c) shall be amended to read as follows:
The custody of an accused member of the United States armed forces or civilian
component, or of a dependent, over whom the Republic of Korea is to exercise
jurisdiction shall remain with the military authorities of the United States until he is
indicted by the Republic of Korea.
ARTICLE II
This Agreement shall enter into force one month after the date of a written
notification from the Government of the Republic of Korea to the Government of the
United States of America that it has approved the Agreement in accordance with its legal
procedures."
I meant to link the US/ROK SOFA agreement as amended ...so see it HERE
No matter how you cut it, Obama just honored a guy who’d called for the torture-murder of the families of American servicemen.
Appalling.
And Politico sees fit to ponder whether Obama can do “Gangnam Style” dancing.
Dr Weevil said...
1. Is PSY short for PSYcho?
Nah, you need a "u" and an extra "s" to figure it out!
(And Blogger needs and edit function!)
I would hope that the United States does pull it's troops out of Korea. One less place for us to spend money we don't have on people who hate us anyway.
Pull the plug.
Bushman of the Kohlrabi said...
I wonder where Psy would be today if not for those Yankees that gave their lives in Korea.
He'd be dancing "Pyongyang-style." I think that means with an empty stomach.
I would be more upset if I thought Barack Obama was a real president.
But he is not.
He is just a guy filming a reality show pretending to be President.
We would be better off with Snookie or Honey Boo Boo.
Dustin writes;
"And the respect Obama shows in return is to have a party with a celebrity that not only calls for our soldiers to be brutally killed, but also for their families to be brutally killed."
But that's not at all accurate, at least not if the lines AA quoted are the only lines in question. Here are the lines for the reading challenged:
"Kill those fucking Yankees who have been torturing Iraqi captives"
So, to Dustin and to many here, that first line seems automatically to translate into "kill our soldiers." Sorry Dustin, not the same thing.
and then
"Kill those fucking Yankees who ordered them to torture"
Those who gave the orders to torture are the ones that make this guy especially bloodthirsty, a bloodthirst extending even to the order-giver's family members.
"Kill torturers and their families"? Not the same thing as 'Kill our soldiers."
I'd say Obama shouldn't have met with the guy unless he is prepared to back up this incredibly incendiary language. But Presidents have met with worse people, this one has and the ones before him have.
AA Ermagerders: At least get your bullshit somewhat right, if you're gonna pretend to be upset.
Humperdink said : Can anyone imagine President Reagan doing this? Bush the elder? Or the younger, for that matter?
How about the Macarena at the 1996 DNC?
Jump to the 3:34:45 mark after Bill Clinton's Nomination Acceptance speech (Hillary at the 3:36:44 mark!).
So because two Korean schoolgirls were accidentally run over by American military vehicles, other Americans deserve to be brutally killed? Maybe someone should ask PSY whether the intentional murder of thirty-two schoolgoers at Virginia Tech by a South Korean immigrant means we should be entitled to kill him and other random South Koreans in retribution?
Baron Zemo said...
We would be better off with Snookie or Honey Boo Boo.
Thread winner!!
harrogate said...
get your bullshit right
I have lived in Korea, and pudgy little Psy is hardly representative of the average Korean.
Psy got a cute little ditty going and is lapping up the attention it brought him...just like he lapped up the attention of some who liked the kill Yankees bit that he also used intentionally for attention. There is no there there...no substance.
He was on stage with mostly also-rans for Obama...Yawn.
"I have lived in Korea, and pudgy little Psy is hardly representative of the average Korean."
Who said he was?
harrogate ... the tone of several comments here imply that he's representative. I was merely wondering what "got right" is to be had vis a vis Psy?
If I'm reading it wrong, pardon me. I think my comment makes it clear I don't think Psy amounts to much...just a little fat kid yapping on about a Seoul-Gu that is extremely wealthy with housing cost comparable or exceeding that in NYC, the Hamptons, or Beverly Hills. That he yapped like a Yankee hater a while back doesn't surprise me...given our long history with his kind in Fonda, Kerry, Ayers, et al ad nauseum.
I haven't read all of the comments to see if any other speakers of Korean have chimed in, but "Yankee" has been mistranslated. The original lyric was "코쟁이"/kojengi, which means "nose bastard", aka, whitie/cracker. Yankee is simply "양키"/yangkee. Some in the conservative press here in Korea are saying this makes him not only a nationalist but a disgusting racist.
Gwen ... thanks for the translation. I never thought to look up the Hangul or spoken Korean for the lyrics. Not that it would have helped me much....it has been a long time since I read, let alone spoke, Korean.
Is this the same harrogate who spent all fall telling us how ugly we are?
One of the effects of spending all your time straining your ears for the sound of dog whistles is that you lose the ability to hear klaxons.
Paul,
On this website it's very often klaxons. Non-devotees hear them well.
I don't think Psy amounts to much, but that he is allowed on camera with the President of the United States is unacceptable.
That, however, is the fault of this president and his staff, not Psy.
Can anyone imagine President Reagan doing this? Bush the elder? Or the younger, for that matter?
Not even Clinton. Hell, even Carter would have balked at inviting this guy.
harrogate - English grammar isn't so precise in normal usage that you can say that the "soldiers who torture" is exclusive or inclusive.
In context it's more likely a description of soldiers as a set rather than a limit of a sub-set of soldiers.
In any case... ambiguous.
That you hear klaxons here but find a way to explain that Psy didn't say what he clearly said, or that he's limiting rather than painting with a broad brush... just *who* do you think he means? The handful of soldiers in prison for abuses at Abu Ghraib? Yeah, I guess Ms. England had a child. The team that waterboarded three high level Al Qaeda individuals?
He's singing about a couple dozen people?
No seriously... try harder.
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