5:12 Central Time: Won't you hang out with me while we watch the results come in? Here's a helpful map, showing what times the polls close in the various states. Polls in parts of Indiana and Kentucky closed a quarter hour ago, but what will be rather thrilling is the top of the hour, 7 Eastern Time, when Florida (minus the part under Alabama) and Virginia close, and then half an hour after that Ohio and North Carolina. Perhaps things at that point will be so decisive we will more or less know. Drudge is saying "EXIT POLLS TIGHT," giving Romney NC and FL and Obama NH, PA, MI, and NV, and listing OH, VA, CO, and IA as toss ups. What? No Wisconsin? I'm thinking it will all be about Wisconsin. But I'm Wisconsincentric.
5:25: After all this time watching the election, I wonder what life will be like tomorrow. I hope it's not 2000-style craziness with recounts and litigation and accusations of fraud. Let it be decisive, and let's accept the results — is that a good centrist idea we can all sign onto?
5:50: I'm watching CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News, and hanging out at MSNBC for the last few minutes, I get the feeling they think the GOP will do well. Why? They're going at the topic of the way the GOP isn't likely to take the majority in the Senate. I'm just getting the feeling that they are moving into that place of refuge.
6:00: Nothing exciting at the top of the hour. Virginia not called. But that's not surprising. It was expected to be close.
6:30: Romney wins West Virginia, unsurprisingly. NC and Ohio are now closed, but they're not calling it, unsurprisingly. CNN reveals exit polls: 49/49 in NC and 51% Obama, 48% Romney in Ohio. Impressive for Obama... if the exit polls are right.
6:41: Boring! Maybe you should go for a run, have sex, or guzzle an Ardberg along with a chocolate bar and then come back in 20 minutes or an hour or so. Wouldn't that make more sense?
7:00: CNN projects Connecticut, Delaware, D.C., Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Maine (3 of the 4), and Rhode Island for Obama. Oklahoma for Romney. Many others not called.
7:27: On Fox News, Rove is on fire. Joe Trippi is stammering and looking worried. Good for Romney, right?
7:37: Watched ABC network for a while and there's a wild-eyed desperation that tells me they know Obama's in trouble.
8:00: CNN calls Kansas, Louisiana, Nebraska (3 of the 5), North Dakota, South Dakota, Texas, Wyoming, and Mississippi to Romney. Michigan, New York, and New Jersey for Obama. (There goes Michigan, which had been considered possible for Romney.)
8:02: They can't call Arizona, Colorado, Minnesota, New Mexico, and my home state Wisconsin.
8:04: 52% Obama, 46% Romney — CNN exit poll in Wisconsin. That looks bad for Romney.
10:04: Oh, I see I've been away for 2 hours. I couldn't take the stress. It's not as though you're reading this blog for news updates. What do you want from me? Gushings of emotion? I'm being mellow, distancing myself from the political fray, reconnecting to my old aversion to politics. The people will have what they have chosen, and I hope for the best, especially for the young people. Tomorrow there will be new things to talk about, I assume. The election is over, is it not? Obama will win, perhaps without the popular vote, like Bush. What will he do with it? Take us to a higher ground, at last? Or nothing at all.
November 6, 2012
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 1603 Newer› Newest»Why can't either Romney or Ryan win their home states?
Why can't Romney win Massachusetts? Yeah, that really stings.
Why can't Massachusetts voters vouch for how awesome a job Mitt did as governor?
If Obama wins I'm leaving the country!
If Romney wins I'm leaving the country. . .I just want to travel.
And remember, Romney has two home states to lose.
Four. MA, NH, CA, and MI.
But he's certain to win UT.
CNN finally accepted PA as Obama's. Still not calling NC.
Yes Elizabeth Warren! Wonderful!
CANADA??
Surely you jest. I'd rather live in China.
They'll just have to suppress more votes next time, I guess.
In a country where you don't even need ID to vote... if you still cant vote that says more about the supposed suppressed than the supposed suppressor.
Sorun seems to be saying that the voters who know you best, given the job you did as governor, should be given the least credibility on what they think of the job you did.
That's interesting. Very anti-democratic.
MoFo, forget New Zealand. Come to Australia. Our government hasn't run our economy into the ground quite as fast as yours has and we have a chance to throw the bums out in a year or so.
So Obama being re-elected is a mandate for more freebies. Who will pay for it? The House remains GOP, so no huge tax hikes. Will Obama spend the next 2 years demonizing the GOP house?
Why is it so close? What is it, exactly, that people want more of under an Obama administration? Why is it even a contest?
Galt? With the bread-and-circus Takers running the roost, there's really nowhere for the Makers to go. We are the last refuge for federalism. This is it.
Tammy Balwdin!!!
O Ritmo, The Democratic Party is cult-like here. We had four primary challengers before Warren entered the race, three quit for Warren, and the fourth held on. Despite getting the needed signatures, the party at the state convention voted to not to have a primary.
Mourdock goes down!
Tammy Baldwin wins LOL. At least the House is staying GOP.
Yes Elizabeth Warren! Wonderful!
No, it's not. The woman is an idiot, and this reflects on the average voter in Massachusetts. Of course, when Reagan won in a landslide in '84, he still lost the people's republic of Mass.
The end of the world draws near!!!
"Why is it so close? What is it, exactly, that people want more of under an Obama administration? Why is it even a contest?"
Republicans are 'icky'.
Are they posting early voting results first?
Did Tammy Baldwin win?!
Ann has gone radio-silent for the last 40 minutes.
In a country where you don't even need ID to vote... if you still cant vote that says more about the supposed suppressed than the supposed suppressor.
States determine the rules, not the "country". And in my state, I needed the ID that was issued.
Fox is calling Baldwin as winner !
Wow ! Left wing here we come.
All I can say is that you wing nuts have had it wrong. all i can say is- "suck it." More talisker please.
Will Obama spend the next 2 years demonizing the GOP house?
That, and doing end-runs around congress through executive orders.
Doom. Gloom. Depression.
@Nicholas, I've thought out it, but somebody told me the Ozzies don't want me, since I've reached the advanced age of 58. Is that true??
jr565 said...
How did Elizabeth Warren pull off a win? She has to be one of the biggest phonies around.
I don't completely disagree with this sentiment. The Democrats ability to alienate working men to the extent that they would vote for a himbo like Scott Brown was a form of political malpractice. I was certain that Warren would be another disaster of the Kerry/Gore variety. I was wrong, the Democrats have built an odd coalition for a left-leaning party, but it is clearly working.
Inga, where does the money come from to keep spending like we do?
Your candidate might win, but you can't answer the most basic question.
You're having a fight over which captain gets to steer the titanic AFTER the iceburg has been struck.
It's not over yet. Romney still has a path to the White House.
So i guess Nate Silver's Magic 8-ball works after all?
He's got a very tight model. But our hostess preferred the house that correctly called one of the easiest elections to call - in '08. So that's that.
Doom. Gloom. Depression.
It cant get worse than Obamacare... if is any consolation.
Republicans are 'icky'.
Ah, the ick factor. Never underestimate the ick factor.
Shit. Boehner is sounding like a concession speech. It's looking grim, my friends.
harrogate said...
It's not over yet. Romney still has a path to the White House.
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Well, Hugh Hewitt is on the radio saying the Republicans need to round up the lawyers, it's gonna be another 2000.
Amazing that a state that has republican house and governor would elect a very liberal Baldwin. She did a great job of defining Thompson and he did a poor job ....he thought he could just coast right in like it was 1995.
The only remaining path for Romney is to win Florida, Wisconsin, Colorado, Nevada as well as all the remaining expected red states. The moment he loses either Florida or Wisconsin it's over.
Unbelievable. 14% U6 for four years, trillion dollar deficits, Solyndra, Fast&Furious, Benghazi, and on and on and on.
And a majority of Americans say: yes, I'll have four more years of that.
I can't believe it. I'm dumbstruck.
Freeman, take heart. The House stays GOP and they have most of the governorships and state legislatures.
O Ritmo Segundo said...
They'll just have to suppress more votes next time, I guess.
The assholes are out early tonight.
CNN has WI 56% for Romney; no call. CNN must not be getting data as fast as other people.
Quayle, I'm not discussing anything wih you tonight, ask your self why your candidate won't win.
It's all over. Now garage, inga and their ideological peers get to own the disaster this nation will become in the next four years.
Night all.
Me thinks it's over. I sure hope Romney's concession isn't as horrible as McCain's.
Looks like Obama is winning. Not sure I understand where Althouse is finding her optimism.
I just told my son he should go to college and get a job working for the government. That will be one of the only ways to make some money
AS if it's that easy to get a high-paying government job. The best path is still the private sector if you have a good degree(computer science, engineering, MBA).
The poor will get poorer, because the people smart enough to be rich or "rich" are smart enough to avoid taxes.
Watching John Boehner....think he might have been drinking with the Althouse commenters.
Looking like a dark, dark day for the USA. Nobody to blame but ourselves.
Dick Morris @DickMorrisTweet
#election2012 I think they are calling states way to soon. Stick around and watch the actual vote counts in Penn and Wisc
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Dick is scared he has a lot of explaining to do about his predictions. He still won't let go of PA and WI.
ask your self why your candidate won't win.
Because there is now enough spoiled brat takers to reach critical mass. I am surprised, but I guess I shouldn't be.
Did someone say FOX called it for Tamm Baldwin?!
Governor Christie is defecting!
Wow. The American people are voting for 8% unemployment (with historically low participation rates), 46 million people on food stamps (and rising), declining median incomes, dead ambassadors and divided government that can't get anything done. Wow. The exact same cast of characters from the last two years will be in charge for at least another two. Wow.
Surprisingly, on the other hand, things are looking a little brighter in Mass for voter ID and term limits for judges. Do'ers of doobage are rejoicing.
I just told my son he should go to college and get a job working for the government. That will be one of the only ways to make some money.
that is until our government collapses like Greece.
Calling a Baldwin win with 5% reporting and exactly ZERO Waukesha precincts reporting? Sounds like wishcasting, but maybe I'm crazy.
It looks like Obama is going to win again.
Because there is now enough spoiled brat takers to reach critical mass.
And that's the kind of 'tude that'll cost ya this election.
The big O.
Hi.
Oh.
Staring at the map on the telly.
Ohhhhhhiiiiiiioooooo.
The "USA" is gone. Probably forever. There is no way I see to recover from this debacle. Barring some breakthrough in fusion or nanotechnology that radically transforms our culture, Obama and his liberal peers will drive this country to ruin.
Freeman Hunt, is that....from Hee Haw?
Are you quoting lyrics from an intro song from a Junior Sample skit, or am I just hallucinating at this point?
Wow. The American people are voting for 8% unemployment...
No. They're voting against the Republican party that got us there and the Tea Party that figured keeping us there would be good for defeating Obama.
The American people are standing up against lies and bullying. No more.
Some rumor mongering on Twitter that the WI call was premature. They said the same about PA though.
So, Al Qaeda is gaining in Northern Africa, Iran is getting nukes and we're going to gut our military.
If Barry wins, and it looks like he may,it's because of two reasons. One the media kept things from the public that should have been revealed (Benghazi anyone?), and two, we've become a nation of leeches. Takers instead of makers.
It won't last long though - maybe four to ten more years - and then there won't be much of America left.
Eh, it had a good run.
Surprisingly, the outliers on the Republican Party who demanded absolutism on abortion seem to have cost Romney the election.
So Democrats...how are you going to pay for Medicare, Social Security, and Obamacare?
Rabel it may be way too early to say this, but your Party went too far to the right, way too far. Women, Latinos and Blacks and Independants did not like the extreme swing to the right.
Minnesota for Obama.
mccullough said...
Tammy Baldwin wins
I only found out the other day that she is an open lesbian. This reflects very well on her opponent and the electorate.
And that's the kind of 'tude that'll cost ya this election.
Yup, I have a bad attitude. I fully admit that. But that has nothing to do with why we'll lose the election. We'll lose the election because of my original statement.
The human race pretty much fucks up everything it touches in the long run.
If Obama wins, expect every election from here on out to just get nastier. This'll be the second presidential election in a row where calm, mild-mannered, middle-of-the-road compromising was shot down.
Pastafarian, IKR?
Vaginas win, I guess.
Vagina vagina vagina.
GOP should go pro-vagina.
At least Barry and can blame the horrible situation he inherited in 2012.
Shouting Thomas i wish you would explain that.
That's easy.
People like you that won't ask themselves, and can't answer basic questions like where it goes from here.
Uruguay is the least corrupt country in Latin American. And from what I've seen, (sample size = 2) the women are pretty hot. I'm learning Spanish.
we gave the man four more years. can we work together now?
Pastafarian, my feelings at this point.
I can't see how Warren carries any appeal whatsoever. I listened to about 15 seconds of her DNC speech before I got pissed off and had to turn it off. Her bullshit about the "system" being "rigged" was absolutely depressing and a stark contrast to all the success stories I heard from the RNC.
"Wow. The American people are voting for 8% unemployment..."
I don't think Obama voters are voting for Obama because they liked 8% unemployment. I think they believe things are slowly improving and will continue to.
If Obama is re-elected and has control of the senate, they will have to pass a budget sometime in the next 4 years....right?
Tammy Baldwin won?!
YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT!
If Barry wins, and it looks like he may,it's because of two reasons. One the media kept things from the public that should have been revealed (Benghazi anyone?), and two, we've become a nation of leeches. Takers instead of makers.
Oh, for crying out loud. It's because one guy wanted to blame the workers for the effects of a declining auto industry in Ohio and the other guy correctly blamed management. Get real.
Rabel it may be way too early to say this, but your Party went too far to the right, way too far. Women, Latinos and Blacks and Independants did not like the extreme swing to the right.
The extreme swing to the poor house is so much better..
You're damn right!
I Callahan I think that extreme negativity turns off a lot of potential voters to the GOP. I believe it really is the reason if you lose.
Romney and Ryan did a great job of keeping it positive, but they're tied to their base, a great portion of which are not very pleasant people to talk politics with.
Just MHO.
So...do the sequestration layoff notices get mailed out tomorrow?
MoFo, I don't know enough about our immigration laws to say. I certainly don't see why a 58yo can't come here as long as you can pull your own weight. Anyway if you do to go NZ and get citizenship, it's quite easy to come to Australia I think. I hear kiwis are flocking here due to there being more opportunities for jobs and such.
phx,
By that I mean the evangelicals on the party platform committee, and the two bizarre senatorial candidates who insisted on opposing abortion even in the case of rape and incest...
Pasted that on Romney and the rest of the party.
They cost Romney and many Republicans the election.
It will be interesting watching Obama bumble while the ME burns, debt skyrockets, cities go bankrupt....and the media...will they back a lame duck..or will they report the news to save face?
Looking ahead
1. The Party of Stupid should have concentrated on the Senate, as Ann earlier said. Obama in the WH with a Repub congress would have either forced him to govern, something he has no experience in, or go golfing.
2. If the House starts impeachment procedings, they will lose big time in 2014 and it will flip back to the Dems.
3. The 2014 midterms are ripe for flipping the Senate to the Repubs.
4. Romney hasnt lost yet.
5. They should litigate the shit out of PA, not because it will change this election, but because Philadelphia needs have that Dem-thug machine broken for their own good.
Well, H.L. Mencken said elections are the process by which the country gets the government it deserves - and it deserves to get it good and hard!
Obama looks like he will win.
"Oh, for crying out loud. It's because one guy wanted to blame the workers for the effects of a declining auto industry in Ohio and the other guy correctly blamed management. Get real"
Oh yeah, this whole thing was about the fricken auto industry. Well, if you say so, Barry bought the votes then I guess. Like I said, leeches.
Warren, Baldin, and Murray. That's a caucus of insufferable dingbats.
Inga said...
Rabel it may be way too early to say this, but your Party went too far to the right, way too far. Women, Latinos and Blacks and Independants did not like the extreme swing to the right.
What a fucking idiot. Romney's a moderate running against a leftist.
GARAGE, BIG BIG hug to you!
Chuck asked:
"So Democrats...how are you going to pay for Medicare, Social Security, and Obamacare?"
A one-time tax on wealth man! You don't think Obama already has that on his drawing board? And did I say "one-time"..I meant to say annual. Folks [Obama's favorite word] like Althouse and her sons won't like it.
Any bets on the debt count in 4 years? I'll say 24 trillion ('cause Obama will bail out the public pensions in Californai and Illinois)..by executive order of course.
Now 10% in in Wisconsin and Romney and Thompson both lead by 8%. I think someone may be walking back early projections...
If Obama wins we're going to see a crisis in the GOP for sure.
The MIGHTY middle . . .is widdle.
"Rabel it may be way too early to say this, but your Party went too far to the right, way too far. Women, Latinos and Blacks and Independants did not like the extreme swing to the right."
Oh, BS. There was no extreme swing to the right in anything resembling reality. It does work, though, to tell stories and get low information voters to fear the enemy.
So I voted for the dumb college kids to have jobs when they graduate and they voted to protect my lady parts from a wholly imaginary threat.
Brilliant.
Is this that preference cascade I kept hearing about?
Oh yeah, this whole thing was about the fricken auto industry. Well, if you say so, Barry bought the votes then I guess. Like I said, leeches.
Nope. He brought the jobs that Romney, lying, pretends he wants to bring.
But apparently you think asking for a job is a way of "leeching", which is why you will lose OH, if not the electoral college.
Take responsibility. Elections have consequences. So does condescending to voters.
Icepick said...
Wow. The American people are voting for 8% unemployment (with historically low participation rates), 46 million people on food stamps (and rising), declining median incomes,
No they are voting against the policies of the party that created decades of declining real wages for middle and working class people, a housing bubble, an unregulated and out of control financial industry, an apparently endless set of wars and an excessive disparity in wealth within our community, to the extent that it hurts the economic competitiveness of the country.
Romney's a moderate running against a leftist.
The problem for Romney are supporters like you, no matter how moderate he is.
Just sayin'.
Marshal, if your party continues their path to the right, they are done for, we Democrats will be in power for years to come, think about it.
If Romney loses this he can thank many of his own supporters.
Well, H.L. Mencken said elections are the process by which the country gets the government it deserves - and it deserves to get it good and hard!
If Obama wins its Gods will...
or maybe not... since a candidate that used that kind of language lost.
Its confusing.
" Blogger LoafingOaf said...
"Wow. The American people are voting for 8% unemployment..."
I don't think Obama voters are voting for Obama because they liked 8% unemployment. I think they believe things are slowly improving and will continue to. "
Watch. We will be in the second Great Depression and Obama, and his voters, will have no idea. Wait for the Muslim speech laws.
CNN still has Romney above 50% in WI; everyone still refusing to call NC for Romney.
sequestration or no sequestration, the military will be gutted. you can't have nationalized heatlh care (which Obamacare will lead to) and a big military. We'll also need to have a big tax hike on gas (like Obama's energy secretary Steven Chu wants) and we will have increased taxes on the rich and on the lower 47%. They WILL HAVE to pay. In Germany, taxes start at 8k.
Sadly, what's going to happen is four more years of what's happened now. Sequestration is coming - there goes a few hundred thousand contractor jobs. Small businesses will shutter their doors or cut back to fewer workers and part-timers to avoid Obamacare mandates. The EPA is about to slam industry with even more job-killing regs.
God it's going to be fun.
You folks obviously are not going to learn your lesson. Oh well.
It looks like Florida is going to go Obama.
Marshal, if your party continues their path to the right, they are done for, we Democrats will be in power for years to come, think about it.
That's right, Inga. In Power.
The Wisc call certainly seems to be premature. Again, there's still that check mark there for the pres even though Romney is leading in percentage points.
Someone needs to draw a 'cartoon' of a victorious Obama spiking the Flag on a mountaintop of aborted fetuses.
"Don't worry people! Disaster has been averted. It's still safe to kill the unborn anytime you like!"
I can't help thinking of a college girl pal from a long time ago. Through the 'miracle' of Facebook I know that she is childless and unhappily so...
...after I don't know how many years working at an abortion clinic. As a father I can well imagine her pain, but all those years of not just doing what she did but laboriously advocating for it every step of the way. Did she think her own body wasn't listening?
Giving women the vote was a huge mistake. The brilliant and delightful exceptions only serve to prove the rule.
The Moon is a harsh mistress...
In Obama's acceptance speech, he should say: "I earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it."
So, to all you libs and Obama supporters. Welcome to owning the decline and fall of America. Welcome to bankruptcy, hyper-inflation, foreign aggression and the inevitable decline of your standard of living.
You own it all now. Every last bit of it. And you don't have a freaking clue how to fix any of it. The inmates have taken over the asylum.
You folks obviously are not going to learn your lesson. Oh well.
Going from Hope to Revenge works.
Got it.
How did Elizabeth Warren pull off a win?
She got large amounts of money from out of state. Plus, MA is a very blue state, of course.
Who knows what will happen?
But, it appears Obama has won.
The opposition will continue to oppose, as it should.
The people have spoken.
He brought the jobs that Romney, lying, pretends he wants to bring.
You mean he bought them with other people's money. Do you have kids? If so, they will pay for your electing Obamao.
Inga, unless obama and the democrats can pull us back from the fiscal cliff....there wont be "years to come" - at least not how you envision it. Do you see Obama being able to lead on this?
Romney is still leading in WI so I'm not sure where they get calling it for O from.
Looks like the gibsmedats have won. America's funeral.
You folks obviously are not going to learn your lesson.
Don't worry. We all will eventually, far too late for it to matter.
I Callahan I think that extreme negativity turns off a lot of potential voters to the GOP. I believe it really is the reason if you lose.
phx, you may be right. But all that does is cement my current views. If people are so incapable of coherent thought that they have to be nice instead of honest, then we've already fallen off the cliff.
YES Claire McCaskill!
"Marshal, if your party continues their path to the right, they are done for, we Democrats will be in power for years to come, think about it."
What path to the right, Inga? A couple nut jobs? Like the Democrats don't have a congressperson or two too stupid to breathe? Of course they do.
Are you talking the "path to the right" that has to do with not wanting government to spend pretend money? Well, Democrats benefiting from that depends on the opposite working, or at least people continuing to believe that no matter how bad it gets there is always a magical money tree if government just cares enough. Feelings, you know.
In Obama's acceptance speech, he should say: "I earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it."
No need, the media will be more than happy to tell us all about Obama's HUGE mandate.
Althouse stopped blogging an hour ago. Is she okay?
with all due respect to the republican party, can you kick this tea party shit to the curb. Indiana, are you kidding me?
"Oh, happy optimist; the bill has to originate in the House."
They've been originating them. The Senate won't pass one and Barry won't sign one.
Is Florida really ahead for Obama, with 87% returned?
Wow. That's not how it was going, with VA looking closer for the president than FL.
Keep trying to suppress the vote, guys. Looks like it backfires in massive proportion to the efforts taken to do it.
And an 18% spread in PA. Way to go, Mike Turzai.
Looks like steadfast, in your face, anti-voter operations are not going the way that the Republicans hoped.
I really hope they don't learn that lesson.
"...the two bizarre senatorial candidates who insisted on opposing abortion even in the case of rape and incest...
Pasted that on Romney and the rest of the party."
Frustrating how when you have a couple of nutjobs, it produces a fear of the collective.
But, on the other hand, when you're the democrats and your leaders are people like Reid and Pelosi...
I just don't get it.
The inmates have taken over the asylum.
I always referred to it as the 'student take-over day that never ends', but yeah.
Marshal said...
Romney's a moderate
He said he was a severe conservative.
I don't know what he is, other than a brilliant salesman. You can only polish the turd of Republican policies so much.
Althouse stopped blogging an hour ago. Is she okay?
I've been wondering about that, too.
She's usually right on the money, but she's off on this one. We all make mistakes.
Althouse: Radio-silent for the last hour...
24% in in WI (including NO Waukesha precincts) and Romney leads by 7 and Thompson by 8. So ???
Just as "Wag the Dog" (movie 1997) was accidentally prescient about Clinton's troubles (his sex scandal and the subsequent bombing of terrorists strongholds in Africa and the eruption of anarchy in Albania)...
"Idiocracy" (movie 2006) seems to have been prescient about the turn in the electorate. Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho for President!
And I am going to spray Gatorade on the crops as a Soil Conversion Commissioner.
It's got electrolytes.
Republicans, do you plan on tacking to the right? When you do that you get your shit whipped. Thank you sir, can I have another.
Right is Right is a Moby.
"Oh, happy optimist; the bill has to originate in the House."
"They've been originating them. The Senate won't pass one and Barry won't sign one."
Yeah, but they're ICKY.
Synova, if you haven't seen what has happened to the Republican Party, and are still denying that it veered too far to the right, then you aren't as insightful as I thought, no offense meant, just surprised.
with all due respect to the republican party, can you kick this tea party shit to the curb. Indiana, are you kidding me?
The Tea Party is not the issue. The Tea Party was about fiscal restraint.
Abortion is what decided this election.
Inga said...
YES Claire McCaskill!
Luckiest woman on the planet.
Tea party forever.
If Romney loses, moderate Republicans are dead; they've been shown to not be able to win at a national level. The death of compromise for at least a few electoral generations.
A one-time tax on wealth man! You don't think Obama already has that on his drawing board? And did I say "one-time"..I meant to say annual.
Yup. This is the only way (other than cutting expenditures, of course), that the current government can punt the ball down the field. Both parties are guilty of spending too much, but at least Romney/Ryan were attempting to address it. The dems have NO plans to EVER cut the budget, unless it's defense. Therefore, the above will probably be floated.
I say they start with Hollywood.
Good news and bad news for Ellie...
The operation appears to be a success... the bad news is the patient is going to die.
But we are going to learn whatever it is that we need to learn on our way to third world status.
Althouse was way off on this.
Liberals have been in power for quite some time now in Portugal, Italy, Greece, Spain, France, etc.
Look how that turned out.
"Synova, if you haven't seen what has happened to the Republican Party, and are still denying that it veered too far to the right, then you aren't as insightful as I thought, no offense meant, just surprised."
Damn, Synova, if you've lost Igna, well, you've not lost much . . .
Where has the Queen Bee been since 8:04??
That dude who has the 49 helmet as his avatar: niners rule. you have 4 more years in the wilderness. find your wisdom there.
kentuckyliz -
Does this mean you won?
If so, you are off and running. I see school board for you next.
"She's usually right on the money"
Hasn't she said that very recently she used to always pick the loser (inc., shudder, Carter)?
Anywho, why are folks assuming this thing is over? It looks like R still has some pathways to 270.
If Romney loses, moderate Republicans are dead; they've been shown to not be able to win at a national level. The death of compromise for at least a few electoral generations.
I'm an old fart. The death of the losing party is predicted after every election, and that never turns out to be the case.
"if Romney loses, moderate Republicans are dead; they've been shown to not be able to win at a national level."
It would be if the Republicans had any brains. Sorry, if the Establishment will nominate another moderate. Look for Jeb Bush in 2016.
Suggestion for the Democrats in 2016: Denzel Washington. If he can memorize the script he's a lock.
No, probably too honorable a man to sell Obama's con.
Maybe Ann's system has crashed and she has no connection??
I wonder how much the D+11 turnout models depressed Republican turnout.
Romney is still about 12 points ahead of O in WI. How does that lead to calling it for Obama?
Inga...give me one example where the Republican party has moved to the right?
I will give you several where the Democrat party has moved to the far left:
Socalized healthcare
Anti-Catholic bigotry
Anti-Jewish bigotry
Anti-Morman bigotry
$17,000,000,000,000 national debt
$105,000,000,000,000 unfunded liabilities in Big Entitlement
Illegal warrantless domestic spying.
Gay and polygamist marriage.
Bending over for the slimeball trial lawyers.
Washington Post site has Wisconsin as red.
Althouse was way off on this.
Allie is going to Disney World!
The Tea Party is not the issue. The Tea Party was about fiscal restraint.
Abortion is what decided this election.
Bullshit. Ever hear of the electoral college? Ever hear of Ohio?
But it's nice to know that they're not missing the control of the women's vaginas problem, either.
I wonder how much the D+11 turnout models depressed Republican turnout.
I hope this comment never disappears from the internet.
I don't think any of you realize what just happened to this nation. It's over folks. The grand experiment, the greatest nation ever on the face of the earth.
Sold for a few condoms and free phones.
Exactly as Thomas Jefferson predicted.
Au revoir.
Doesn't look good. If this holds up, it's going to be because too many people voted with their ladyparts instead of their ladysmarts.
Fooled you once, shame on him. Fooled you twice...
Lets go tea party. You must be pure.
NBC has called Wisconsin for Obama, despite Romney having some 55% of the first 10% of the votes reported. Apparently, on the basis of voter turnout in key cities? Hmmm. Well, I won't be shocked if some early calls have to be retracted later on! OTOH, they might not. Oh, Tommy leads Tammy by a similar margin at the moment.
Garage: It's called snark. It plays off of the nonsense about voter suppression that has been being spun for weeks.
But, I see that you might not get the joke.
Inga said...
Marshal, if your party continues their path to the right, they are done for, we Democrats will be in power for years to come, think about it.
If my party were on a path to the right this might make a lick of sense. The right isn't moving, the left is. Government spends vastly more than it ever has, the parasites that feed on the private sector are now becoming bigger than the host it feeds on, and will inevitably kill it.
And to distract the voters from this simple fact, the nutty left asserts that Republicans want to enforce The Handmaid's Tale in America.
I want to know how many of Romney's home states he will lose.
If people are so incapable of coherent thought that they have to be nice instead of honest, then we've already fallen off the cliff.
Like you can't be civil AND honest.
Oh, well.
We will purge you.
If people are so incapable of coherent thought that they have to be nice instead of honest, then we've already fallen off the cliff.
Like you can't be civil AND honest.
Oh, well.
She's usually right on the money, but she's off on this one. We all make mistakes.
She did what a lot of us do in a new relationship. You stop listening to your own inner voice.
So, now we're officially not racist?
Synova hasn't lost me at all. I still respect her as a woman and a great human being.
If Roosevelt could win four elections, why shouldn't Obama win two. The greatest generation was just as stupid as the latest generation, even if they did have more character.
Disappointed in my native state. Congratulations Garinga!
In what ways *specifically* have the Republicans become *more* right-wing?
An anti-abortion plank in their party platform? It's been there forever.
Fiscal responsibility? Honored in theory rather than fact, but it's always been there.
Strong defense? Same-same.
Small government?
Mom and Apple Pie?
List some metrics, Inga. The only possible change I see is the *possibility* that there will be a slight *umph* in the direction of fiscal responsibility.
This terrifying shift to the right is a fantasy built by the political opposition.
and are still denying that it veered too far to the right
Give me just one example of where the party has gone hard right. One issue, where they were more moderate before, and are more right wing now. And don't talk about some time 50 years ago. One example in the last, say 20 years.
"RCP hasR up in Wisconsin. 53% to 46% with 15% in."
What's up with that?
Inga said...
You folks obviously are not going to learn your lesson. Oh well.
Apparently it hasn't ocurred to Inga that we care more about our country than we do our party.
Don't start fighting the next election already, folks.
Give it a break.
Marshal De Nile is a river.
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