October 12, 2012

Why did Paul Ryan drink so much water?

People are asking. Did you not notice that he frequently sipped water? I never noticed Biden drinking water, and at the first debate, I never noticed Romney or Obama drinking water.

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phx said...

I guess that passes for humor at Meadehouse.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

I'm sure priests like to have downtime like the rest of us. We're all on here chatting away. Not surprising that a priest might want to do that too

I'm sure they do too. Priests are people. I have had friends who are mothers, uncles and sisters of Priests. I've known Priests over my lifetime who were Confessors (in the old term, they were persecuted in communist China) and as the recipient of my confessions. As friends of family and as just good enjoyable people who like good music and a good drink or two.

I can understand taking umbrage at being called a liar. However, the tenor of Fr. Martin's remarks here WITH the inconsistency of previous postings is somewhat difficult put into focus. A mask seems to be slipping a bit.

I come from the 'old school'. The Latin Mass, Latin American Catholicism, on your knees, saying the rosary, fasting before Communion, candles in the transept, this type of Catholic. Taught from childhood to put Nuns and Priests on a pedestal. Yes I know you are human and I know that my "style" is outdated. But to see this type of crass Internet banter from a Priest is ...sad.

Anonymous said...

Oh quit whining Weevil.

Palladian said...

Good stuff! I am sorry, I didn't realize you were an artist.

Thanks, Father.

yashu said...

Lem, like I said before, I agree with where you're coming from, but I think your strong feelings are leading you toward a more personal attack... which is futile.

There are a whole lot of personal attacks on this blog every day (engaged in by some of the very people being most sanctimonious here now), so it's not like this is a big deal. But you're usually not so angry (though NB I understand where your anger is coming from).

I don't think it's worth it. You made your point (and like I said, I agree with your philosophical/political point). I think there's little point in pursuing a personal fight.

You don't want to get like other commenters here (whom I won't name).

Anonymous said...

Sanctimonious is my middle name! I own it!

yashu said...

Sanctimonious is my middle name! I own it!

IMO sometimes, not always, you certainly are. I would not say you're the worst offender here.

I've probably been guilty of some sanctimony myself on occasion.

Erika said...

watch abuse happen in front of my eyes and not speak up. It's called decency.

LOLOLOLOL right, Inga defender of decency, horribly offended at "abuse;" Inga, everyone here knows that you can't make it one damn day without getting into some silly slapfight with someone here on Althouse and issuing forth all manner of insults and character slurs. It seems one of your favorites is 'hypocrite,' which is rather amusing at this juncture.

Bless your heart dear, you are entertaining!

Anonymous said...

Ok, group hug, come on everybody!

Dr Weevil said...

Quit projecting, Inga. You can't seem to go an hour without coming here to whine about conservatives in totally fraudulent and hypocritical ways. When called on it, you can't defend what you say so you accuse others of "whining". Pure projection.

chickelit said...

What Yashu said about Inga at 11:26

This isn't the only blog she's tried this at, nor will it (probably) be her last. There are many things about Inga which endear her to me but Yashu has nailed her most forgivable foible.

Gosh, I'm starting to think, is just putting yourself out there all the time in the same vain like Crack and Inga do how to piss people off?

Anonymous said...

Oy, Erika, just when we were all about to hug one another.

bagoh20 said...

Palladian,

I've browsed through every one of your works more than once. You are very talented, and I'm in awe of talent, since I have none at anything, but it's not my particular taste that you do. Still, I've seen a number of them that I would like. I think I'll pull the trigger this time. That should cover libations for a night anyway, and I'll smile everytime I look at it.

Anonymous said...

Sigh.

bagoh20 said...

"Ok, group hug, come on everybody!"

OK.

Hey! What is that smell?

Fr Martin Fox said...

DBQ:

You are welcome to take that point up with me anytime. I have some things I could say in reply, but it's late, even for me, and this thread maybe is reaching it's end.

Anonymous said...

Baggy, it's Palladian's perfume.

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Fr Martin Fox said...

Palladian:

I've been looking at your works. Good stuff.

Craig said...

Ryan was running a five hour marathon in ninety minutes.

Ralph L said...

Dr. Weevil, you haven't read too many threads if you don't recognize Lem. He used to be fairly drunk by this time of night, so Fr Fox may have been beating his own head against a wall this evening.

who has been raped to prevent pregnancy. Destroying a child once conceived
You didn't exactly answer my question, which I've been wondering about since the Akin flap, which I thought was ridiculously overblown. Is preventing implantation in the uterus preventing pregnancy, or destroying a conceived child, or both? Your church condemns IUDs, IIRC? So industrial douching after a rape is Right Out? Or OK only until sperm enters egg?

Fr Martin Fox said...

Ralph:

Sorry, I was trying to answer it.

The method isn't the issue for Catholic belief. What matters is whether a child has been conceived--i.e., the union of sperm and egg. If not, then any treatment that prevents conception is licit.

Once a child has been conceived, it's not. If by preventing implantation, you mean the newly conceived embryo being implanted, then yes, that's an abortion, albeit very early. Catholic teaching condemns that.

IUDs, as I understand them, destroy newly conceived embryos; so that's not acceptable.

Ralph L said...

reaching it's end
When you abuse an apostrophe like that, we know you're not a priest.

Fr Martin Fox said...

Ralph:

Hahaha! You're right about the apostrophe, that is a rule I mess up all the time.

Palladian said...

Palladian,

I've browsed through every one of your works more than once. You are very talented, and I'm in awe of talent, since I have none at anything, but it's not my particular taste that you do. Still, I've seen a number of them that I would like. I think I'll pull the trigger this time. That should cover libations for a night anyway, and I'll smile everytime I look at it.


I appreciate the kind words, bagoh2o, and I am always happy to answer any inquiries if you like something. Drop me an email,

Anonymous said...

Baggy, you do have talent, he has a great voice and writes beautiful songs and he survived a catastrophic illness, that's great talent!

Palladian said...

Baggy, it's Palladian's perfume.

Thanks for mentioning that. My partner and I are making plans to move forward in the near future with a limited distribution of the first perfume. I've spent 7 years and tens of thousands of dollars developing our line and hopefully we're going to go places with it. One of the reasons that I'm broke is that I've spent so much of my own money on development. But it will be worth it. It's a beautiful perfume and I'm proud of it (and the others still in development). Launching a small, independent business of this nature has been an enormous challenge and has taken a long time, but again I think the pain will eventually be justified.

chickelit said...

Inga said...
Baggy, you do have talent, he has a great voice and writes beautiful songs and he survived a catastrophic illness, that's great talent!

Odd shift of person there from second to third. Rum?

Me? Gin

Where's Penny? I want to buy her a drink.

Chip Ahoy said...

Everybody knows keeping your voice in top chipmunk form requires regular infusions of liquid.

Here's my Ryan impression. Ready? Goes like this:
doodlydoodlydoodlydooldydoo doodlydoodlydoodlydooldydoo doodlydoodlydoodlydooldydoo doodlydoodlydoodlydooldydoo doodlydoodlydoodlydooldydoo that said real fast. takes water. w ... a ... t ... e ... r

No I made that up, he was drinking water because he had just eaten a delicious Chip Ahoy chocolate chip cookie. That's a lie. I made those cookies tonight.

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Palladian said...

You are very talented, and I'm in awe of talent, since I have none at anything.

You're a successful businessman. That's an enormous talent, and one that I am in awe of. Working as an artist and, especially, going through the process of developing a perfume business has given me the greatest respect for those who can build, manage and grow a business of any kind.

Anonymous said...

And Palladian, you do good, art, terrific art even, despite what I said two weeks ago. Just don't be a yenta.

Palladian said...

Me? Gin

Oh beloved gin, my muse!

I am reduced to Gordon's tonight.

Ralph L said...

What matters is whether a child has been conceived--i.e., the union of sperm and egg. If not, then any treatment that prevents conception is licit
That's logically consistent, but how is one to know exactly when conception occurs? It takes some hours I believe for the sperm to reach the egg, so who will tell the woman when to step away from the open fire hydrant? It pretty much forces her to do nothing.

chickelit said...

But it will be worth it. It's a beautiful perfume and I'm proud of it (and the others still in development).

When is the commercial launch? I'll buy some for my wife. Is it pricey?.

Anonymous said...

Hey Palladian, can you develop a special perfume for me and call it Sanctimony? I'll buy it.

bagoh20 said...

Thanks, Inga. That very nice. And I'm sorry about what I did during that hug. I was just looking for some loose change. Times are tough under this administration.

Chip Ahoy said...

Today was like totally spectacular. The laundry is all caught up, the dishwasher unloaded, the floors are all cleaned, the carpet all over the place vacuumed and completely cleaned, the bathrooms are clean and my body is bathed, ALL ON THE SAME DAY!!!!!

Like, all that coincided at once!!!!

Palladian said...

Great Hogarth was wrong about gin. Of course back then, bad gin could be fatal, with methanol left behind from poor distillation, and flavored with turpentine instead of juniper and citrus. Apparently in the 18th century a terpene was a terpene.

Anonymous said...

I quite enjoyed it Baggy, no need to apologize. ;)

Palladian said...
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Palladian said...

When is the commercial launch? I'll buy some for my wife. Is it pricey?.

The launch will be small-scale and limited, since it's not a mass-market perfume. I'll send you a sample, gratis.

You and I could spend hours discussing the chemistry alone.

Chip Ahoy said...

gin could be fatal

You mean it's not fatal?

Palladian said...

You mean it's not fatal?

I'm still alive. Q.E.D.

yashu said...

Heh, Palladian, that's great. I was not aware of the great battle of Beer St. vs. Gin Lane.

I'm very hard pressed to pick a side. Tonight, I'd probably go with Gin.

Much respect to and admiration for both Palladian and bagoh, an artist and a businessman. And more: an artist who's something of a businessman and a businessman who's something of an artist.

Chip Ahoy said...

Ed Merrill told me he orders a gin that doesn't give him a headache, but I didn't believe him. Maybe he said vodka.

Fr Martin Fox said...

Ralph:

That's a good question. The answer is, obviously, is that there is a point after which it's clear it has happened, and there is a point, beforehand, when it probably hasn't, and in between, there is only doubt.

The question of what one may do, during that intermediate period, is much debated.

There's more to say, but I beg you to consider that I can't, in this space, and at this hour (I should go to bed, but I'm watching a movie), develop the matter as well as I might.

Anyway, here's something I found: http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=6852

And here's a quote, from the bishops:

A female who has been raped should be able to defend herself against a potential conception from the sexual assault. If, after appropriate testing, there is no evidence that conception has occurred already, she may be treated with medications that would prevent ovulation, sperm capacitation, or fertilization. It is not permissible, however, to initiate or to recommend treatments that have as their purpose or direct effect the removal, destruction, or interference with the implantation of a fertilized ovum.

chickelit said...

The launch will be small-scale and limited, since it's not a mass-market perfume. I'll send you a sample, gratis.

I'll swap you perfume for quaffable equivalents of Death's Door Gin, made in my home town. link

Ralph L said...

From the famous Kitty rape and murder debate:
(Margaret) WARNER: Vice President Bush, abortion remains with us as a very troubling issue, and I'd like to explore that for a minute with you. You have said that you regard abortion as murder, yet you would make exceptions in the case of rape and incest. My question is, why should a woman who discovers through amniocentesis that her baby will be born with Tay-Sachs disease, for instance, that the baby will live at most two years, and those two years in incredible pain, be forced to carry the fetus to term, and yet a woman who becomes pregnant through incest would be allowed to abort her fetus?

BUSH: Because you left out one other exception, the health of the mother....

Bush made no sense there.

chickelit said...

yashu said...
Heh, Palladian, that's great. I was not aware of the great battle of Beer St. vs. Gin Lane.

There's a mural painting of the epic battle of beer v. wine in the UW student union, less than a mile from where our hostess works.

Wein nach Bier, dass rate ich Dir; Bier nach Wein, lass es sein

Script is done in Fraktur, naturlich, before WWII.

Anonymous said...

Rum und Wein, lass es allein.

Ralph L said...

since it's not a mass-market perfume
If it doesn't have the endorsement of an infamous slut, I ain't gonna buy it. Perhaps you should make up with Titus.

"On her it smells like French kitty litter...On her it smells like dead otters in a drainpipe."
Groundbreaking TV in the mid 70's.

yashu said...

chickelit, heh. I often recite English variations of those rhymes to myself in certain situations; I should adopt the German versions too.

chickelit said...

@Palladian: that is a serious collection of bottles. Are all those ingredient (reagents) or mixture experiments?

That photo triggers so many memories.

bagoh20 said...

Oh, they're bottles. Good.

Palladian said...

...that is a serious collection of bottles. Are all those ingredient (reagents) or mixture experiments?

Those are all raw materials, ingredients. Everything from coumarin to aldehydes to Egyptian jasmine absolutes.

chickelit said...

Those are all raw materials, ingredients.

Have you tasted each and everyone?

chickelit said...

I'll reveal the reason I ask after you answer.

Chip Ahoy said...

Honestly, I do not know why Ryan drank so much water but I do know what the alien hummingbird said to the first human it encountered. Guess.

Guess, I said.

Goddamnit I said guess.

The alien hummingbird said, "take me to your feeder." boom tish.

bagoh20 said...

The fooled so many with that book title: "To Serve Hummers" The ship was packed.

Anonymous said...

I just had to go to Chip's food blog, he made chocolate chip cookies, so perfect, so scrumptious looking, now I can't sleep for longing for a cookie.

Roger J. said...

Staying at home on a Friday nite engaging in a scholastic disputation suggests to me that some commenters dont have much of life. One of the wierder threads I have seen on Althouse, I gotta say.

Rusty said...

" Water? No thank you. Fish make love in it you know."
W.C. Fields

Best of luck to you on your new venture, Paladin. Seriously. It takes a lot of courage to leave a safe path and course along unknown trails.
I'm rootin' for ya.

joated said...

Drinking water helped wash away the blood flecks from biting his tongue as Biden giggled his way through what appeared to be trip through an LSD induced alternate reality.

Bob Ellison said...

Obama has dipped below 60% on Intrade for the first time in weeks!

Joe Schmoe said...

Whoa. This thread was certainly all over the place. But enjoyable in a weird way. Some infighting, but not the usual suspects, which was nice for a change. I thought Fr. Martin's comportment just fine, and I'm not Catholic. Maybe that's why; I don't have a deeply-burnished sense of what a Catholic priest is supposed to be like, so I appreciate his attempt to balance his humanity with the humility required of his religion. On the one hand, his humanly pride gets the best of him, demanding apologies and throwing out wagers when challenged, and then adopting a more civil tone reflective of Christian ideals. I like that.

Allie Oop was like a theatrical character who really, really wanted to be in on the fight, but just couldn't quite find the opportune moment to insert herself into it. It wasn't for lack of trying, though. Allie, I think I've read on other threads that you have a child in the military. If they have half the fight that you do, then we are in good hands.

Largo said...

Those here who know me at all know that I lurk more than post. But I see this comment thread, and ... I have to smile. Online communities who care for each other enough to absorb and ameliorate the kind of conflict shown in this thread--and then (even then! especially then!) to address each others' foibles with gentleness and humor:

I do love you guys and gals!

Largo.

yashu said...

I agree, Largo, this is a pretty swell online community. I was a mostly-lurker for a long time too. Love your avatar.

Fr Martin Fox said...

Joe:

It probably is pride, however, I do have another reason for the tactic of offering a donation for someone to put up or pipe down.

It seems to me as good a way to call BS when someone makes a strong charge. If you really can back it up, why not do so and help a charity?

And, right or wrong, I don't take "liar" or impugning someone's basic integrity lightly. As John Wayne (I'm no John Wayne) said in one of his movies, I don't treat others that way, and I won't be treated that way. When I called someone a liar, it had happened, right then.

city said...

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