We had the same result, shooting at spa leaving four dead, down here in the Orlando area on Thursday. Spas are tough places to work.
We've had a real outbreak of domestic violence murders down here. Boyfriends killing girlfriends, girlfriends hunting down and stabbing boyfriends, all kinds of fun. We had a series of shootings over in the tourist areas a few weeks back. More of the same. Times are tough and the strain is starting to take its toll.
Over at The Other McCain, he pre-empted any speculation that this was connected to the Tea Party - someone found that the shooter signed the Walker Recall Petition.
I find this ceremonies trite; they mean nothing and their only accomplishment is to make the participants feel good about how they 'care' for people they never knew.
Yeah, I'm hard-hearted about stuff like this (I also think that John-john was a farking moron for flying a plane in conditions he was rated for with a leg in a cast).
I'll give the Sikhs a pass because what happened to them but not to the other people who show up out of a false sense empathy.
How soon before the barking seal criminologists waddle in to make sure nobody misapprehends this crime as a hate crime, since the shooter only killed women, just as the criminologists waddle and bark after every mass killing of women.
George Sodini shot 12 random women, killing three and left notebooks detailing his hatred for women and his plans for killing "them." But he is not a hate criminal according to esteemed criminologists James Alan Fox and Jack Levin. He was, they said, just a misunderstood, lonely man. Women didn't smile at him enough, Levin and Fox actually conclude, before trotting off to say something very different at some crime officially deemed hate, one with the right types of victims and offender.
Geraldo Regalado picked off seven women, killing four, but he's not a hate criminal either. Nor is Anthony Kirkland, who carved his many female victims into pieces, nor Anthony Sowell, who tortured his 11 victims and stashed parts of their bodies around his home. No, they're not hate criminals, thank goodness. We can't have those types cluttering up the statistics.
Good on the Sikhs for acting as if these women deserved a little candlelight memorial anyway, before the hate crime experts arrive to cut the crime down to size.
I'm not clear on the purpose of this post. People died. My sister's significant other of 15 years died a few days ago, in a cascade of events that started in June. My wife's cousin died two months ago, suddenly of a heart attack, and her sister a few days ago. My Wife's high school friend is in the hospital getting a blood transfusion, and is dying of liver disease.
If I hold a candle light vigil will I get recognition from Ann? or does it take being a Sikh to do so?
Sorry, but I simply don't get it.
Maybe we ought to all hold a candle light vigil for all the kids that died of Malaria in Sudan, from Clinton bombing a Sudanese pharmaceutical plant, to get Monica off the front page. Yes, one little middle of the road candle.
Let us be clear about your post. Loony killers only kill women, always use guns and 99% of the gunmen are black!
I know you didn't say that, but your comments naming shooters and counting victims are incomprehensible in my mind. The only preventative measure for random violent crime is to read people's minds and convict those having evil thoughts. Wait! we already have that with hate crime legislation.
Perhaps I didn't make myself clear to the Gadfly. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear at all.
I am criticizing those who pick and choose among victims, deeming some more important because of the ethical perversities of hate crime laws and the selective ways they are enforced.
I am using the example of women because the actuaries of hatred, abetted by their criminologist apologists, work overtime to ensure that we don't count mass killings of random women, or serial rapes of the same, as hatred because, as Bill Clinton memorably put it, "there's too many of 'em." It would muddy up the statistics.
Likewise, the FBI didn't count the 3,000 dead on 9/11 as victims of anti-American hate, even though "nationality" is a category scored through the HCSA Act.
They didn't count them because then virtually all the hate crime victims of the last 100 years would be victims of anti-American hatred. And the worst offender would nearly all be Muslim men.
That's not why hate crime laws were drafted, to say the least.
But I think I was more snarky than clear in my opposition to these laws, not to mention my opposition to the self-righteousness of many who politicize some violence while ignoring the rest.
The members of the Sikh temple, however, seem to have been being kind in their gesture.
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Very odd. About 10 years ago, there was a similar incident involving the Sikh temple in Cleveland.
Odd? Really?
We had the same result, shooting at spa leaving four dead, down here in the Orlando area on Thursday. Spas are tough places to work.
We've had a real outbreak of domestic violence murders down here. Boyfriends killing girlfriends, girlfriends hunting down and stabbing boyfriends, all kinds of fun. We had a series of shootings over in the tourist areas a few weeks back. More of the same. Times are tough and the strain is starting to take its toll.
Over at The Other McCain, he pre-empted any speculation that this was connected to the Tea Party - someone found that the shooter signed the Walker Recall Petition.
Wisconsin Shooting Rampage
Alan: the gunman was an unemployed black man. Clearly Scott Walker's policies drove him to murder.
I find this ceremonies trite; they mean nothing and their only accomplishment is to make the participants feel good about how they 'care' for people they never knew.
Yeah, I'm hard-hearted about stuff like this (I also think that John-john was a farking moron for flying a plane in conditions he was rated for with a leg in a cast).
I'll give the Sikhs a pass because what happened to them but not to the other people who show up out of a false sense empathy.
Those Sikhs are swell folks. Will refreshments be served?
Why does it take the cops 5 hours to clear the building?
How soon before the barking seal criminologists waddle in to make sure nobody misapprehends this crime as a hate crime, since the shooter only killed women, just as the criminologists waddle and bark after every mass killing of women.
George Sodini shot 12 random women, killing three and left notebooks detailing his hatred for women and his plans for killing "them." But he is not a hate criminal according to esteemed criminologists James Alan Fox and Jack Levin. He was, they said, just a misunderstood, lonely man. Women didn't smile at him enough, Levin and Fox actually conclude, before trotting off to say something very different at some crime officially deemed hate, one with the right types of victims and offender.
Geraldo Regalado picked off seven women, killing four, but he's not a hate criminal either. Nor is Anthony Kirkland, who carved his many female victims into pieces, nor Anthony Sowell, who tortured his 11 victims and stashed parts of their bodies around his home. No, they're not hate criminals, thank goodness. We can't have those types cluttering up the statistics.
Good on the Sikhs for acting as if these women deserved a little candlelight memorial anyway, before the hate crime experts arrive to cut the crime down to size.
I'm not clear on the purpose of this post. People died. My sister's significant other of 15 years died a few days ago, in a cascade of events that started in June. My wife's cousin died two months ago, suddenly of a heart attack, and her sister a few days ago. My Wife's high school friend is in the hospital getting a blood transfusion, and is dying of liver disease.
If I hold a candle light vigil will I get recognition from Ann? or does it take being a Sikh to do so?
Sorry, but I simply don't get it.
Maybe we ought to all hold a candle light vigil for all the kids that died of Malaria in Sudan, from Clinton bombing a Sudanese pharmaceutical plant, to get Monica off the front page. Yes, one little middle of the road candle.
@Tina Trent
Let us be clear about your post. Loony killers only kill women, always use guns and 99% of the gunmen are black!
I know you didn't say that, but your comments naming shooters and counting victims are incomprehensible in my mind. The only preventative measure for random violent crime is to read people's minds and convict those having evil thoughts. Wait! we already have that with hate crime legislation.
The menace of the ent, comes tearing through jacking up the place waving around a boulder. Repeatedly, over an dover an dover.
Light comes from darkness, and that's a way of healing when something tragic happens.
There's got to be a morning after.
Perhaps I didn't make myself clear to the Gadfly. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear at all.
I am criticizing those who pick and choose among victims, deeming some more important because of the ethical perversities of hate crime laws and the selective ways they are enforced.
I am using the example of women because the actuaries of hatred, abetted by their criminologist apologists, work overtime to ensure that we don't count mass killings of random women, or serial rapes of the same, as hatred because, as Bill Clinton memorably put it, "there's too many of 'em." It would muddy up the statistics.
Likewise, the FBI didn't count the 3,000 dead on 9/11 as victims of anti-American hate, even though "nationality" is a category scored through the HCSA Act.
They didn't count them because then virtually all the hate crime victims of the last 100 years would be victims of anti-American hatred. And the worst offender would nearly all be Muslim men.
That's not why hate crime laws were drafted, to say the least.
But I think I was more snarky than clear in my opposition to these laws, not to mention my opposition to the self-righteousness of many who politicize some violence while ignoring the rest.
The members of the Sikh temple, however, seem to have been being kind in their gesture.
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