August 28, 2012
Photos from the Go Topless Protest at the White House.
Warning, lots of large photos of breasts at the link, which I recommend not for the usual gawking at breasts, but for the careful contemplation of the expression and demeanor of the various women. The pictures tell a story, and each woman is different — not just in the size and shape of her breasts — but in her attitude about joining this demonstration... and the way that attitude evolves as the demonstration progresses and as the various women perceive the differences in breasts and attitudes of the other women. There are some men too... and onlookers taking all the photographs they want, which is part of the evolving scene. It's humanity at its most hilarious. Highly recommended!
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 258 of 258So to sum up this thread. Tits of various women are shown. A ginger stands out amongst the throng of uglies. Comments are made. Talk of Raelians creates angst. Crack waxes his anti-cult mantra, origins of the ginger are made, googled, and repudiated. A few male commentators profess their love for the ginger, fapping possibly ensues. Aliens, ufo's, and mormons are brought up in the same breath, people try to corral crack to not be a meanie butt-face head person, retaliation occurs. Allie chimes in because she's butt-hurt from her dietary thread war with crack and hopes the ginger doesn't get melanoma.
Crisis averted. That is all.
Methadras, keep my butt out of this.
Crack Emcee wrote:
jr, not only have I never even suggested that's a remote possibility, but the fact you'd do so shows what an immature, comic book image you have of the whole topic. After reading that, I'm seriously considering going back to ignoring you because, clearly, you're not even remotely a serious person (which explains why I always find you in a mob-scene gangbang with the likes of AllieOoop and Fen).
I mean, how exactly would that work? "A law to become a mormon"? It's your idea, not mine, so give it go so I can evaluate the possibility.
I don't know, how would that work? But then again, absent him ruling as a mormon theocrat what is the issue with a mormon running a company or a state or a country. You're insinuating that he will bring something nefarious to the table, simply because of his mormonism. If you are acknowledging now that Romney will not in fact do so, then what's the issue?
And note, I dind't particularly care about the religious views of Rev WRight, nor felt taht Obama should answer for believing in the tall tales of christianity. My issue was what the church believes about Amerikkka, and what by extension OBama believes about Amerikka. It was not an argument over religion at all. SO you saying you "told us" about OBama but noone would listen is crap. His newageism is irrelevant to me and very few people cared about his religoius beliefs per se (i was pretty sure that he was in fact not particularly religious at all). But you'd find a whole lot of people arguing about his beliefs about America and how he and the media was misrepresenting those views. Including me.
Crack your argument is verbatim to the argument about Catholics made against JFK when he ran. And similarly as groundless. Both were devout in their religion, but both could still run without going to the vatican to get their marching orders.
I like the pic of the redhead on the bench with her tits hanging out and she is casually reading something. She is probably not a mormon though.
What's gonna happen? Surely an expert would know what we can expect. If it consists of: "When something not good happens, remember I told you so." That's takes no courage or confidence whatsoever. And if it's a politician is gonna lie, well then yea, that must be because he's a Mormon.
Tell us what's gonna happen specifically because he's a cultist Mormon. Otherwise, you are failing here, and if you're right, thanks for nothing. You could have made a difference, but you didn't.
What if they gave a war on women and nobody came?
Would we still have to be concerned about providing free birth control?
chickelit,
The Redhead's full name is Erin Go Braghless O'Cult.
Now That's The Spirit!
See? A little bit of reading (so you know who the players are, for instance, miraculously putting on a nonsensical "protest") a little bit of ridicule (the best anti-cult weapon ever invented) and - viola! - these assholes can't hurt nobody no more.
What's so horrible? What's so hard? I've almost stopped caring if anybody "likes" me - life ain't Facebook - and I despise anybody who's standing around, doing nothing, just as much.
Just because the likes of AllieOop and jr565 don't get it means nothing to me - others do - and we're going to win.
Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but goddammit, we're going to win,...
AllieOop,
Methadras, keep my butt out of this.
Give me a break - it's right there in your photo,...
jr565,
I don't know, how would that work? But then again, absent him ruling as a mormon theocrat what is the issue with a mormon running a company or a state or a country. You're insinuating that he will bring something nefarious to the table, simply because of his mormonism. If you are acknowledging now that Romney will not in fact do so, then what's the issue?
If you don't know, SHUT UP.
bagoh20,
What's gonna happen? Surely an expert would know what we can expect. If it consists of: "When something not good happens, remember I told you so." That's takes no courage or confidence whatsoever. And if it's a politician is gonna lie, well then yea, that must be because he's a Mormon.
Tell us what's gonna happen specifically because he's a cultist Mormon. Otherwise, you are failing here, and if you're right, thanks for nothing. You could have made a difference, but you didn't.
What is with you? We haven't tangled - nor have we given each other a reason to - in some time. What gives?
I'm going to answer you, because I know you're not crazy, just ornery like I am, but why do you want to get into this now?
I really want to know,...
Is there anywhere in this great Country that outlaws women going topless in public?
Certainly there is no such law here in redneck Texas.
Isn't this kind of like protesting that power walking should be allowed on sidewalks?
I don't mind paying for birth control, but if Sharon Fluke wants $1000 per year for birth control when a 28 day pack costs 0nly $9 (i.e., $117 per year for you math-challenged Democrats) then I draw the line. Does going to Georgetown Law mean you have to have solid gold IUDs?
The Crack Emcee said...
I'm going to answer you, because I know you're not crazy, just ornery like I am, but why do you want to get into this now?
I really want to know,...
Oh, I know the answer, but I'm a little surprised you don't see it.
AllieOop said...
Methadras, keep my butt out of this.
There is a massive joke in there somewhere, but honestly, I'm just going to watch this fast ball down the middle go right by.
bagoh25,
One reason i want to know is because, when you see these people pulling chickenshit arguments on me, you're one of those who say nothing. You make me fight alone, and now want to come in because - what? - I'm laying it on too strong? Well, maybe that wouldn't happen if some of you who are sane spoke up when the bullshit, non-evidence-based arguments start?
Garage isn't the only person who engages in bullshit around here, y'know?
" but why do you want to get into this now?"
Because like everybody else around here, I want you all to think I'm real smart. So I got to have the goods. In the future, I wanna tell everybody how smart I was too back in 2012.
A the rest with personal attacks going back and forth is not helping me get there. It's just a pissing contest, it's ugly and defeats the purpose of getting the truth accepted, if you have it. If you got something, put it out there. If it's good enough, I won't have to read the ugly shit that makes people close their minds, and maybe I'll agree with you, and show you how to convince people. The way your're going here, you're gonna be the only person on earth to know the truth, just on spite.
bagoh20,
The rest with personal attacks going back and forth is not helping me get there. It's just a pissing contest, it's ugly and defeats the purpose of getting the truth accepted, if you have it.
Oh come ON. I dare you tell me that's not what's going here with Garage:
The man mentioned his WEIGHT the other day and I haven't seen the end of it.
Where has your holier-than-though stance against personal attacks been with him? Non-existant as far as I can see. But with me, you decide to step out - why?
chickelit,
The Redhead's full name is Erin Go Braghless O'Cult.
Thank you; I got a laugh out o'that.
"But with me, you decide to step out - why?"
If I want some insight into bass fishing or roadkill cuisine, I'll call out Garage on his holding back. I didn't see the Garage-is-fat throwdown.
I believe you when you say you got something that will impress me. Now you got me believing, but you won't whip it out. So what's gonna happen? Why is my Romney vote a mistake? I don't want to listen to you tell me how stupid I was next year. I wanna be laughing at the rubes too.
Crack, I actually don't disagree with you on the cult stuff. That's not much, I know, because I'm not arguing your cause. But there's something about that which is interesting to me, even if not to you.
In a way you remind me of France. You've mentioned you're from LA, but you definitely have more of a French attitude towards religion (though not politics, thankfully). You mentioned earlier in the thread that you've seen too much, experienced too much. Which is precisely French history going into their revolution. French church history was a mess in just about every way, so they just wanted to toss it all out, get rid of it all, cults and everything. No middle ground. Made sense given their experience.
But, in the West the typical approach to religion is more laid back. Believe what crazy thing you want, it'll only be a problem if your weirdness gets in our way.
You think this latter attitude is a sign of hypocrisy or ignorance. Maybe it is, but it's more of a live and let live attitude. Until it becomes an active problem.
You assume that all such cults will become destructive and ruin things. That's your experience, so that hard to argue with. A lot of crazy religions find their way to the mainstream, though. Pentecostals, Quakers, Seventh-Day Adventists, became much more mainstream.
I think a lot of Mormon theology and beliefs are pretty off track, but I'm intrigued how absolutely interested they are in being included in the mainstream--and while that could go the way of manipulation it can also go the way of becoming mainstream--letting go the crazy as they become increasingly more like other denominations.
Now, you might think it's absurd to let any weird religion have a place or a voice, but again that's much more French than Western US.
Probably this whole comment could have just been that last paragraph, but you know I have a problem with succinctness.
Crack, I want to know too! I've clicked through to your site but at this time I don't want to sift through the dirty details, I just want the bullet points. Could you list the top five (or whatever number) awful things are sure to happen because we elect Romney the Mormon? It could be your "I-Told-You-So" list four years from now. Otherwise, I have no clue what you are suggesting might happen and I am not ready to parse your blog to find out. (Sorry.)
jr565 said...
"Both were devout in their religion, but both could still run without going to the vatican to get their marching orders."
I know you didn't mean what you wrote.
I think a lot of Mormon theology and beliefs are pretty off track, but I'm intrigued how absolutely interested they are in being included in the mainstream..."
They aren't L. Ron Hubbard and the Scientologists so why don't we just back off the cult thing. Are the folks who play with snakes a cult? The catholic mass can be pretty scary as well if you didn't know better. Let the religion business be. It degrades the arguments.
Romney has enough baggage to over come without you heaping his core beliefs on him.
bagoh20,
I didn't see the Garage-is-fat throwdown.
It's been epic. He's under 6 ft. tall and 220 lbs. - can you imagine?
I believe you when you say you got something that will impress me. Now you got me believing, but you won't whip it out. So what's gonna happen? Why is my Romney vote a mistake? I don't want to listen to you tell me how stupid I was next year. I wanna be laughing at the rubes too.
I've never said to let Obama go on - I said to vet Romney (which got me blasted) and become aware of how his cult operates, which I still say is the most important thing Americans can do now, and is completely unworthy of the outrageous response it's received. I'm not going to link this up but merely state the case, from the macro (cultism) to the micro (Romney himself) and not be too detailed, so think of this as an overview:
1) Because of the mindset cultists get trapped in, they are capable of killing using nothing but water, scamming by selling the equivalent of bird seed, and no one - co-workers, friends, spouses, and other family members, including kids - are safe. Beneath the loving veneer is a ruthless adherence to a belief above all, and it can be any damned thing. To think of any cult or cultist as we do ourselves is a grave mistake no matter how good, wholesome, or "nice" they appear. (The first process of cult indoctrination is "love bombing" - convincing the ignorant they're just swell - which should tell you they're well trained at turning the best of one's intentions in on itself, into something ugly, and ultimately evil.) Because of this ability, you should be skeptical of even the best presentation. It's only there to fool you and the results, devastating.
2) The Mormons didn't carve Salt Lake City out of the desert by being "nice" but - mostly under the guidance of Brigham Young - by being ruthless. They fought the United States government, participated in the massacre of "gentiles" (anyone who isn't Mormon) and lied, cheated, and stole what they wanted - lying about it every step of the way. (AKA "Lying for the Lord.") They got the land by promising to stop polygamy, but - as I posted on my blog today - that, too, is a lie they're all too happy to let the rest of us believe. Their entire history of persecution is based on nothing more than Mormons insisting they don't have to stop behaving this way, and blaming others for demanding they leave if that's their attitude. Whether it's the insistence blacks weren't fully people until 1978, or that history, science, and geography are wrong, the Mormons are a my-way-or-the-highway people, convinced that mere facts should have no bearing on them and their "celestial kingdom."
Cont'd.
3) Because of what's stated in #2, you can bet they'll be moving into every position of power they can manage in the government. They have been working towards this "Mormon Moment" for over 100 years and, while they love the land, they have no such feelings for the people they've fought all that time. The main temple in downtown Salt Lake was acquired by telling the non-Mormons they wanted to build a park (a "Paris of the West") only to take the deal to a Mormon judge who allowed them to build that monstrosity on it so, today, every non-Mormon who passes by is persecuted or told to leave. They built Las Vegas by teaming up with the Mafia (It doesn't get more "wholesome" than THAT, huh?) They bribed Olympic officials to bring the event here. As I've noted many times, two of the most profitable businesses in Utah are the scam of worthless supplement sales and multi-level marketing schemes. (His own wife, an MS sufferer, is even gullible enough to fall for the okey-doke, using some of the quackiest of the quack practices out there.) Deception and outright fraud are so bad, and such a part of Mormon culture, Utah is the only state that has permanent offices offering anti-fraud courses to teach their gullible citizens how to protect themselves, specifically, from those they trust. And, once the Mormons get in power, you can bet they'll continue scamming in any way they can, before and behind the scenes, only until they're stopped.
4) Mitt Romney's career, looked at objectively, has been as nothing more than a fixer. He doesn't have a single bone in his body infused with leadership abilities. If he does, why did he have to go to the "church" to ask what positions it was alright for him to take in Massachusetts? (And, if it was to make sure he was doing the right thing by his church, why did they instruct him to go against their teachings? Because the goal is, was, and always will be the attainment of power - cold and ruthless - and nothing more. Power he is now attaining.) He covered up the scandals surrounding the Olympics, including doping from Utah-made supplements, covered for Orrin Hatch (who was implicated in it) after he crafted the onerous DSHEA laws to facilitate their sale. I will point out he followed the people's lead in crafting RomneyCare - which has bankrupted the state - rather than doing what a true leader would and saying "This won't work" or designing something that would. The man is known as a notorious flip-flopper, not because he changes his mind, but because he keeps a wet finger in the air - usually waiting to see which way the winds are blowing in the Salt Lake temple - but, 9 times out of 10, he doesn't have to ask what they think because they've already told him.
I'll stop there but, put it all together, and - just like Barack Obama - it doesn't add up to the proffered image of some divinely-led Boy Scout with amazing business abilities who's only looking out for the welfare of his fellow man. It adds up to exactly what we see:
A nervous nelly, who doesn't know his own mind, but gets strength and guidance from hanging out with a bad crowd.
Crack Emcee wrote:
He covered up the scandals surrounding the Olympics, including doping from Utah-made supplements, covered for Orrin Hatch (who was implicated in it) after he crafted the onerous DSHEA laws to facilitate their sale.
For fucks sake you keep going over the same old ground with the same stupid points! As if Romney is somehow responsible for the juicing going on at the Olympics. Oh, and those athletes juiced with steroids not stuff like vitamin E and Vitamin C. HE personally covered up the doping? Please provide the links. Otherwise stop with the fucking theories.
You don't see how you've constructed this extremely elaborate conspiracy theory based on the flimsiest, and I mean flimsiest of proof.
You're not even offering proof at all. You're just insinuating something, then providing a link where you say that same thing. And then say "see I proved it to you" by providing a link.
Paddy O,
You've mentioned you're from LA, but you definitely have more of a French attitude towards religion (though not politics, thankfully). You mentioned earlier in the thread that you've seen too much, experienced too much. Which is precisely French history going into their revolution. French church history was a mess in just about every way, so they just wanted to toss it all out, get rid of it all, cults and everything. No middle ground. Made sense given their experience.
I have no ambition to "toss it all out, get rid of it all, cults and everything. No middle ground." (Not that that's what the French have done - they're hypocrites in that way, though I did meet some who were over-the-top in their hatred of the church.)
I've made distinctions, but it's never done any good to do so because someone, like jr565, will come along and ignore them like they were never stated. One that I've made, which I think is significant, is the difference between Joseph Smith and Jesus - that we have a boatload of clear-as-day evidence to say one was a fraud who made shit up, willy-nilly, and nothing but circumstantial evidence to disprove the fraud of the other. I've been very clear in saying we should expose Joseph Smith's lies, but merely laugh when people go too far with Jesus.
I've never advocated getting rid of churches, or stopping anyone from preaching, or going to church on Sunday - just to say Mormonism is a cult built on the claims of a fraud.
Lindsey Meadows,
A lot of Mormon theology,...aren't L. Ron Hubbard and the Scientologists so why don't we just back off the cult thing.
Because, apparently unbeknownst to you, the similarities between Scientology and Mormonism are striking - here's just a few:
Both were started by modern-day con men who made shit up and lied about who they are.
Both of those men died attempting to escape from justice.
Both went just short of war against the United States government and it's people.
Both were succeeded by men more ruthless than the founder.
Both have "celestial" star-based belief systems that they've covered up by repeated restructuring until it seems somewhat palatable.
Both are ruthless in their ambitions and behavior.
Crack Emcee wrote:
The man is known as a notorious flip-flopper, not because he changes his mind, but because he keeps a wet finger in the air - usually waiting to see which way the winds are blowing in the Salt Lake temple - but, 9 times out of 10, he doesn't have to ask what they think because they've already told him.
Again, the exact same argument made against JFK and catholics. Please provide the evidence that shows this strict adherence to church orders. (and not links to your own website)
As I've noted many times, two of the most profitable businesses in Utah are the scam of worthless supplement sales and multi-level marketing schemes. (His own wife, an MS sufferer, is even gullible enough to fall for the okey-doke, using some of the quackiest of the quack practices out there.) Deception and outright fraud are so bad, and such a part of Mormon culture, Utah is the only state that has permanent offices offering anti-fraud courses to teach their gullible citizens how to protect themselves, specifically, from those they trust. And, once the Mormons get in power, you can bet they'll continue scamming in any way they can, before and behind the scenes, only until they're stopped. And you know the jews love their money and will steal you blind the first chance they get. and the blacks are lazy and shiftless. And the catholics are all backstabbers.
Where are you getting that the supplements are worthless? Every single supplement ever put out? And if people are buying them, even if you don't, that shows there is instrinsic value there. I would think you would recognize markets as a consservative. There has been no calls to ban GNC, the Vitamin Shop and I can find you any number of links to the efficacy of vitamins, and supplements. Drug companies are starting to see the benefit too since they are putting out drugs that are essentially the equivalent of supplements (look up Lovasa for example) There is nothing illegal in selling vitamins. And if you dont like them don't buy them. That is not enough to villify Romney or any other vitmain manufacturers. There are bogus supplements, but there are also legitimate ones.
And Anne Romney, for all the talk of how she is peddling bogus therapies went through a year of traditional therapies which she said arrested her disease. Those alternative therapies are effective in treating hte pain of MS and I woudln't be surprised if her doctors recommended she try some of them.
She doesn't sell a product for curing MS, so if she advocates for therapies, it's simply because they've worked for her.
Crack wrote:
've never advocated getting rid of churches, or stopping anyone from preaching, or going to church on Sunday - just to say Mormonism is a cult built on the claims of a fraud.
And any anti christian will say the same thing about Christianity. Remember how the Jews in fact rejected Jesus and didn't buy that he was the son of God? Therefore he was a fraud, and christianity a lie. The Romans called Christianity a cult. Why is it not a cult?
Crack wrote:
Both were started by modern-day con men who made shit up and lied about who they are.
Both of those men died attempting to escape from justice.
Both went just short of war against the United States government and it's people.
Both were succeeded by men more ruthless than the founder.
Crack, are you aware of the history of Islam?
Made up by a conman who said he received visions from the angel Gabriel, then demanded that the various tribes in the area worship him. They rejected him and he had to leave his home town, where he hooked up with a band of brigands and started robbing caravans (and killing those they found).
He then DID go to war with all the tribes in the region and slaughtered his enemies indiscriminately. And married a kid who was a slave who he deflowered when she was 9. Not to mention assassinate his critics, and other assorted nastiness.
He may not have been killed escaping justice but he was poisoned by one of his wives after he basically killed off her tribe.
And was succeeded by even more ruthless people who continued on in his war mongering.
Why is Islam a religion and not a cult?
Because of the mindset cultists get trapped in, they are capable of killing using nothing but water, scamming by selling the equivalent of bird seed, and no one - co-workers, friends, spouses, and other family members, including kids - are safe.
The children are not safe! They are after your kids! No one is safe! It should be a horror movie.
jr565, you are both a pain and an idiot - fuck you, no link:
Olympic officials, increasingly frustrated with the U.S. response to their [illegal supplement] concerns,...blamed the surge in nandrolone tests on a single U.S. senator: Orrin Hatch (R-Ut.). Hatch was the chief architect and sponsor of DSHEA, which among other things, prompted supplement makers to flood the market with vitamins, herbal remedies, amino acids, and other "natural products" like andro without any federal safety or purity guarantees. "[Hatch] is directly implicated in this affair," said Prince Alexandre de Merode, chairman of the IOC medical commission.
The IOC criticism was particularly biting given that Hatch's home state will be hosting the next winter games in 2002, and that one of the games' major sponsors is, in fact, a supplement company. Utah had already produced a major Olympics bribery scandal; all it needed was a reputation as the world's steroid capital just as the IOC was arriving with its drug-test lab.
And I didn't say Romney was responsible for it, you piece of spit, I said he helped cover it up,...
jr565,
The children are not safe! They are after your kids! No one is safe! It should be a horror movie.
Fuck you - no link:
"The North Coast Area Health Service is warning people not to rely on homeopathic preparations against whooping cough.
The health service recently began offering free whooping cough vaccinations for all carers of young babies, after a four-week-old girl from Lennox Head became the first child to die from the respiratory disease since the 1990s."
Fuck you, jr - no link:
A husband and wife were jailed Monday for the manslaughter of their baby, who died after they chose to use homeopathic remedies rather than conventional medicine to treat her severe skin disorder.
Thomas Sam, a 42-year old college lecturer in homeopathy, and his wife Manju, 37, of Sydney, were convicted in June of the manslaughter of their nine-month-old daughter Gloria, who died of septicemia and malnutrition in May 2002.
The Indian-born, university-educated parents had faced a maximum penalty of 25 years each in prison if convicted. Instead, New South Wales state Supreme Court Justice Peter Johnson ordered Thomas Sam to serve at least six years in jail, with a maximum sentence of eight years, and Manju to serve at least four years in jail with a maximum of five years and four months. The couple wept as they were sentenced.
Johnson said it was clear homeopathy wasn't sufficient for dealing with Gloria's severe eczema, and said there was a 'wide chasm' between her parents' approach and the action a reasonable parent would have taken.
Thomas Sam's 'arrogant approach' to his preference for homeopathy and Manju Sam's deference to her husband led to their daughter's death, he said."
jr565,
Crack, are you aware of the history of Islam?
Made up by a conman who said he received visions from the angel Gabriel, then demanded that the various tribes in the area worship him.
Paddy-O, didn't i tell you this moron ignores distinctions?
A classic cult apologist,...
It's all good, right, jr? Shit even PRISONERS have better ethics than you do:
Roch Thériault, the former doomsday cult leader who was killed in his cell over the weekend, paid dearly and often for his crimes, his lawyer says.
Renée Millette, a Montreal lawyer who represents inmates for procedures such as parole hearings, said Thériault was assaulted often by other inmates over the last two decades while he served time for amputating the arm of one of his followers and killing another. Millette said the assaults include others at Dorchester Penitentiary, the medium-security institution near Moncton, N.B., where he died Saturday. He had been incarcerated there since 2000.
"He was often a victim of his past. The assaults had nothing to do with how he acted while incarcerated. It was because of his past," Millette said, adding Thériault had regrets about his time as the spiritual leader of a group he began in Quebec in 1978 and later moved to Burnt River, Ont., where the cult became known as the Ant Hill Kids.
"Hot. Baked. Tired."
That was the way Melissa Phillips felt midway through the sweat lodge ceremony at Angel Valley Retreat on Oct. 8, 2009. Three people died from trauma they received during the event, leading to manslaughter charges against self-help author and speaker James Arthur Ray.
Phillips, 43, of Toronto was the first witness that Yavapai County Attorney Sheila Polk called to the stand. Phillips said she first encountered Ray in the self-help movie "The Secret," then read some of his writings and signed up for several seminars.
The Spiritual Warrior event in Sedona was to be yet another step on her path to enlightenment. At a previous seminar, she said, Ray had told her it would be a life-altering experience.
"I was expecting to walk away with a great learning experience - a wonderful experience for myself," Phillips said.
Responding to Polk's questioning, Phillips said she was aware that James Ray International, Ray's company, did not disclose the Spiritual Warrior schedule or roster of events, although she had learned some of it from people she'd met at other seminars.
"You're supposed to show up not as prepared in order to have your breakthrough," she said.
Thus, Phillips was more prepared than most of the other 50-odd participants who entered the sweat lodge just hours after a vision quest that featured an enforced 36-hour fast.
"I understood it was a rebirthing," she said. "I understood it was a spiritual journey."
She did not understand that three people - Kirby Brown, James Shore and Liz Neuman - would die.
One more, because it's fun:
"I think it's a scam," said Jeremy Adler. "I really do."
Adler's claims of a scam come after working for three months as the manufacturing manager at a Seattle company called Biomed Comm. The company makes and sells a variety of homeopathic remedies advertised as treatments for autism, menopausal symptom relief, and boosters of immune systems and energy.
Last week the State Department of Health ordered the company and it's founder and CEO Barbara Brewitt, PhD to cease and desist her making and selling of drugs without a license. They also directed her to stop "posing as a medical doctor."
Adler is the whistleblower who started the investigation that led to the Department of Health action. He tells KOMO 4 News he still stands behind those accusations.
"The comment was made once that we don't care what the government says because we're homeopathic," he said Brewitt told him and other employees. "We can make this stuff in a bathtub if we want to."
FDA regulations are different for the makers of homeopathic remedies where the active ingredients are markedly diluted in their final medicinal form. "In clinical studies, patients have reported increased memory, focus and energy, stronger heart and immune systems, relief from stress and headaches, weight loss, increased muscle mass and improved sleep, among other factors," it says on the Biomed Comm website. "Biomed's cell signalers are being taken by autism and HIV (AIDS virus) patients as well as baby boomers who want to stave off aging. "
The Department of Health ordered Brewitt to immediately "stop her unlicensed practice of manufacturing drugs," saying that they do not have the necessary federal approval.
Adler, who says he was hired to help establish a small manufacturing facility in Woodinville, says many of the medicines were mixed by Brewitt herself in her own kitchen as she chanted over a crystal bowl.
"She told all of us the magic is in the chanting and the crystal bowl," said Adler. "And that's what caused everything to work was the energy from the crystal bowl."
I have never said I was a proponent of homeopathy. But how about I start posting links of all the deaths from routine surgeries, or the development of MRSA from going into a hospital for something minor? Or about any mishaps from traditional drugs?
Or how about how chemo kills 27% of cancer patients?
http://www.naturalnews.com/News_000468_cancer_chemotherapy_medical_myths.html
Or how about treatments prescribed by traditional doctors that don't actually work:
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/the-ideology-of-health-care/
Or doctors basic errors killing 1,000 patients a month:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/doctors-basic-errors-are-killing-1000-patients-a-month-7939674.html
or doctors kill a million a year through surgical errors:
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/doctors-kill-1-million-patients-annually-through-surgical-errors-says-who/116333/
This is not to say that therefore homeopathy is somehow now a miracle cure, only the number of deaths for homeopathy is infinstesimal compared to the number of deaths from routine interaction with doctors or treatments supposed to treat diseases that sometimes are as bad as the disease itself.
based on my links you'd think traditional medicine was so dangerous as to keep people away from it (since they are so likely to die from it).
I have not said homoepathy is some miracle cure, nor have i heard anne romney say that homeopathy cured her MS (She said it was the steroids that did that, but the alternative therapies you poo poo helped her with her symptoms).
In truth I actually tried homeopathy once,though it did not involve any water. And it did nothing for me at all. So, my opinion would be it's not really a great solution. I also did acupuncture once, and that seemed to help with pain I was suffering from (whereas the pain blocker I was given by a doctor only helped for one day and ended up not being covered by insurance and costing me 8,000 dolllars.
Now, Im not saying that acupuncture will cure all ills, but it seemed to work better than the traditional method and was cheaper too (the one time I tried it).
I'm sorry I'm so late to this post.
Also, Crack, you're, in your zeal to damn Romney for some coverup of juicing at the olympics and the dangers of deregulation in the supplement industry as well as the suggestion that Romney is responsible for athletes musing, actually making a contradictory argument. Because you say that all of these supplements don't work. Yet, why then are athletes getting in trouble for juicing if in fact supplements don't work. in those cases it would appear that supplements (if you want to call steroids supplements) work so well as to give athletes an unfair advantage in their sport.
Here also is a counterpoint to your argument about the regulation of the supplement industry and the evil of Senator Hatch written 7 years later in 2008:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/07/28/durbin-on-natural-health-freedom.aspx
Note, you are actually on Dick Durbin's side. Some conservative.
One of the more disgusting aspects about this latest legislative tactic is the blatant misinformation Senator Durbin dispersed to his fellow legislators. In Senator Durbin's speech on the Senate floor on May 23, 2012, Durbin says5:
"No one tests dietary supplements...companies may test them if they wish...there's no requirement under law that they test them, and there's no agency of government that tests dietary supplements." (That's actually the same thing you're arguing Crack)
This is completely untrue. As ANH writes:
"Supplement companies, by law, must comply with the Dietary Supplement Current Good Manufacturing Practices (CGMPs) and must conduct testing throughout the production process as well as testing the finished product for quality control. As with the pharmaceutical industry, the burden is on supplement companies to test their own products, because in the end they are liable should FDA choose to take enforcement action against them."
In 1994, Congress passed the Dietary Supplement Health Education Act (DSHEA)6. This act established standards for dietary ingredients, from defining what is a dietary supplement and identification of ingredients, to labeling. The act gave the FDA authority over dietary supplements to include developing Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP) under Title 21 Code of Federal Regulation.7
The bottom line is, there is no need for further legislation related to the manufacturing, ingredients, labeling or use of natural supplements. If anything needs to be more regulated, it would be drugs, which are far more likely to kill you than your vitamins.
perhaps your anger is directed at the wrong place considering:
Supplements have a FAR better safety record than drugs or vaccines, as the following statistics8 reveal. In 2008, the adverse events reported for supplements versus drugs were as follows:
The reported number of adverse events for prescription drugs and "therapeutic biologics" was 526,527, of which 275,421 had "serious outcomes"
The reported number of adverse events for vaccines was 26,517, of which 3,923 were considered serious
The reported number of adverse events for supplements was 1,080, of which 672 were considered serious
The above figures should be interpreted with caution, however. Adverse events for drugs are defined differently than adverse events for supplements. If an FDA-approved drug lists on the label that it can cause fainting or nausea, or even chest pains or seizures, then it's considered to be within the range of expected outcomes. In this case, the adverse event should be reported, but the report is not considered "urgent" and may be delayed for up to a year.
Not so for supplements. What the FDA considers an adverse event from a supplement can be anything from a concern that a supplement "isn't working" to a serious illness that follows consumption. But even with this statistical comparison unfavorably weighted against supplements, there are 487 times more official reports of adverse events related to drugs than to supplements, and 409 times more serious events related to drugs than to supplements. And according to a CDC report9, there was not one single death associated with a dietary supplement in 2010!
Maybe going to a homeopath is better than going to a doctor. There youll just waste your money. You wont get a drug that is far more likely to kill you than a homeopaths bogus water cure which as you say will do nothing whatsoever.
The redhead's name is Rachel Jessee, she's a fire dancer and magician who lives in Hollywood.
@Allie:
Only a true leftist tard like Allie would think perfectly fine and attractive white skin needs to be "darkened up."
Diversity uber alles, comrade!
What did you say, Allie? I wasn't paying attention. I was staring at........oh, never mind!
Whore, I think that as a redhead, with pale skin, she should protect her areolas and use sunscreen, but it's her choice to make. They will darken naturally if she ever gets pregnant, she won't be as attractive to white supremicists like you then.
jr565,
Natural News is one of the biggest propaganda sites in the world, and responsible for countless deaths - including those of children. I dare you to look up Mike Adams (NN's founder) on anything but quack sites and claim he's credible. All I'll bother to point out is he's anti-vaccine, which - by putting him in the same category as Jenny McCarthy and Suzanne Somers - should, at least, tell the others what kind of sources you rely on and trust.
Jesus, you destroy yourself, every-freaking-time,...
And, sure enough, there's Joseph Mercola!
Boy, you love them quackers, don't you?
You should open a duck farm.
I'm done with you,...
Excellent focus on the hottest topless woman out there. Had to have been a guy snapping the shots. E.
Thank you for the pictures,ms Ann
I would have commented earlier but I was otherwise indisposed.
keep up the good work.
@Jim Howard,
Jim Howard said...
Is there anywhere in this great Country that outlaws women going topless in public?
Certainly there is no such law here in redneck Texas.
Isn't this kind of like protesting that power walking should be allowed on sidewalks?
Weirdly, the States of Hawaii and New Jersey outlaw topless (or topfree) dress by women. So does Michigan.
However, New York State does not have such a law...due to a court case. I think Texas, Ohio, and Washington (State) all allow topless dress.
Both of these lists are incomplete. However, they show that various States have different standards of public decency.
(I researched the topic some time ago, shortly after a Canadian acquaintance told me the story of Gwen Jacob. She was charged with indecency, and eventually won an Appeals Court case which held that public display of breasts is not indecent, in a place where men can publicly go shirtless. Anyway, Wikipedia contains a few articles about this, most of which have at least one NSFW picture.)
that redhead is certainly getting a lot of air time.
Crack, thanks for your response.
I've also argued in other places that not all religions are the same in terms of credibility--and I have troubles with both Islam and Mormons because of that. And I agree with you that it's right to call these things out. I am less confident about its usefulness when we're given a binary choice between Obama and Romney. Call it a bit of hope, maybe naive hope to you, but hope nevertheless that there can be progress of rationality even in a religion
Different cults/religions can be on different trajectories. So, I don't just look at the whole theology or doctrine, but where they seem to be headed. Mormons have become much more, and intentionally so, like Christians -- so much so they want to be included in that category. Which makes me think that eventually, like the Worldwide Church of God or the Seventh Day Adventists, there's a chance they'll let go the more troublesome parts.
One doable set of boobs on a chick with horrible bunyons, and a couple of very unimpressive chicks and some dogs. Plus numerous male douchebags.
Is this what a protest looks like?
Honestly, if the red-head wasn't there, I think the event would have been a huge bust.
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