March 1, 2012

Rush Limbaugh on Andrew Breitbart: "He should have been given the same kind of hero worship that Woodward and Bernstein have gotten."

From today's broadcast:
He grew up in West Los Angeles, surrounded by liberals, father-in-law Orson Bean, the comedian. Sometime during the 1990s, the early nineties, Breitbart had an awakening. He was constantly questioning what was all around him, which was really extreme liberalism, and he became, as many of you in the audience know, a bulldog....

Wouldn't you think that real life journalists would applaud Breitbart's efforts to expose government corruption and media bias? I mean, what does the media claim to exist to do? To hold the powerful accountable! "Speak truth to power," is that the phrase? Well, the mainstream media has become part of the power. When that power is held by the Democrat Party, the mainstream media covers up the corruption. He was exposing it. He did more and greater work than Woodward and Bernstein! He should have been one of their heroes. But he wasn't. He should have been given the same kind of hero worship that Woodward and Bernstein have gotten. And unlike the work of Woodward and Bernstein, Breitbart's investigations were actually truthful.
Read the whole thing. (Or listen to it, if you've got a rushlimbaugh.com membership, which is what I use to keep up with the show via podcast.)

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Revenant said...

Changing the argument to quarrel over the definition of "instinct" instead of "sex" is an improvement

Who's arguing? I'm just trying to figure out what secret language you two are using. In English, rape is sex and instincts aren't conscious choices. In your language apparently neither of those things is true. Once I've translated you into English I'll be able to figure out what your point is. :)

It's clear that phx means that desire to have consensual sex has a biological basis.

That would make it a really silly rebuttal to my statement that non-procreative sex is a recreational luxury. After all, most of the things we do for fun and luxury have a biological basis.

The reproductive behavior of nonhuman animals shows that the great majority of matings involves mate choice by the female.

That's because, like I pointed out, humans have developed moral systems to restrain behavior.

Males operating outside normal moral systems tend to behave quite differently -- which is why rape is common among wartime soldiery, among criminals in prison, and in the master-slave relations of the old South.

I ♥ Willard said...

Rush's point was to highlight the absurdity of Fluke

By acting like a pervert? Mission accomplished!

I ♥ Willard said...

In English, rape is sex and instincts aren't conscious choices.

Two errors in one sentence.

The first mistake is your insistence that "sex" has a single meaning--the meaning you've assigned to it--that is independent of context. Since the author of the sentence that started this debate agrees that the word "sex" was used as shorthand for "consensual sex"--a commonplace usage, by the way--your misunderstanding is the basis of this quarrel.

Your second error is the fact that the term "instinct" does not have a single, universally accepted definition across various scientific disciplines.

Males operating outside normal moral systems...

What a strange response to my observation that the reproductive behavior of nonhuman animals shows that the great majority of matings involves mate choice by the female. Are you arguing that nonhuman animals also have "moral systems to restrain behavior?" If not, you're veering wildly off course and undermining your argument; if so, you should amass your evidence since it represents a revolutionary breakthrough in understanding animal behavior.

Revenant said...

Since the author of the sentence that started this debate

Um, that would be ME, silly. I said sex was a recreational luxury. Phx started his "nuh uh its an instinct" schtick in response to that.

That's what makes your behavior so funny. I'm not insisting that it has a single meaning -- you are insisting that the one I'm using -- i.e., the English one -- isn't right. Your behavior is akin to responding to the statement "the sky is blue" but saying "you're wrong. Blue means 'sad' and the sky isn't sad". :)

"sex" was used as shorthand for "consensual sex"

I find it amusing that you have to use the word sex to define the word sex. That aside, I direct your attention to my earlier comment -- if you want to use "sex" to mean "consensual sex", then my original comment that sex is a recreational luxury and not a necessity is one hundred percent correct, and phx was wrong to disagree with me. The only form of sex which is "necessary" in any sense of the word is the reproductive kind, which (for obvious reasons) you don't need birth control pills to have.

Your second error is the fact that the term "instinct" does not have a single, universally accepted definition across various scientific disciplines.

I like that you care deeply about "context" except when you don't. We're not having a discussion in whatever (conveniently unnamed) scientific field "instinct" means "conscious choice". We're having a discussion in ordinary English, and in ordinary English "instinct" never means "conscious choice". Even if you decided we were talking biology or psychology, the word still doesn't refer to conscious choices. That's why we use the term to describe animal behavior, natural urges, and intuitions.

What a strange response to my observation that the reproductive behavior of nonhuman animals shows that the great majority of matings involves mate choice by the female. Are you arguing that nonhuman animals also have "moral systems to restrain behavior?"

Animals can consent? I'd love to hear how you proved that. Heck, we say that 14-year-olds can't consent and I've yet to see a 14-year-old who wasn't smarter than a dog.

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