A person with direct knowledge of decision-making at Komen's headquarters in Dallas said the grant-making criteria were adopted with the deliberate intention of targeting Planned Parenthood....Abortion politics. It's hard to position yourself in the middle, as it seems Handel has done, and she's managed to get slammed from one side and then the other and to lose 2 big jobs.
According to the person, who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of repercussions, a driving force behind the move was Handel, who was hired by Komen last year as vice president for public policy after losing a campaign for governor in Georgia in which she stressed her anti-abortion views and frequently denounced Planned Parenthood....
Handel, a Republican, ran for Georgia governor in 2010, winning an endorsement from former vice presidential candidate and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. Handel then lost a primary runoff to former Georgia Congressman Nathan Deal, who won the general election.
Throughout the campaign, Deal accused Handel of being soft on abortion.
Deal repeatedly attacked Handel over a 2005 vote she took while serving on a metro Atlanta county commission to give more than $400,000 to Planned Parenthood....
February 7, 2012
Karen Handel — VP for public policy at Susan G. Komen for the Cure — has resigned... why?
She'd been on the side of cutting off funding to Planned Parenthood:
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As my previous comment PROVES, PP is -- at BEST -- a useless middleman skimming money off the top which could be more effectively and more efficient applied by funding grants directly to the providers who actually provide the mammography.
I realize it is hard for you shrill advocates for mass murder to admit, but the FACT is that, by bullying SGK into funding PP, you have demonstrably HARMED the interests of women (for the sake of your bloated sacred cow -- PP).
Once again...
Waco, TX Planned Parenthood Has Provided Over 2,000 Mammograms Since 2001.
From a Waco Planned Parenthood Newsletter...(NOTE - : "From a Waco Planned Parenthood Newsletter")
In 2009 we provided 487 mammograms and 162 diagnostic follow-up procedures for our patients. Since this program began in 2001, we have provided 2,683 mammograms to low-income women. [Waco Planned Parenthood, Spring/Summer 2010]
SBVOR - You've just entered Jay the dolt's neighborhood.
Please bypass any of my comments and stick to playing with you little friend.
Jay,
Love (my ass) got her propaganda directly from Media Matters (now indoctrinating Girl Scouts).
Don't you know that MM is gospel?
ROTFLMFAO!!!
(to keep from crying over the gullibility of so-called "Progressives")
From a Waco Planned Parenthood Newsletter...(NOTE - : "From a Waco Planned Parenthood Newsletter")
In 2009 we provided 487 mammograms and 162 diagnostic follow-up procedures for our patients. Since this program began in 2001, we have provided 2,683 mammograms to low-income women. [Waco Planned Parenthood, Spring/Summer 2010]
On the up side for K Handel, she's now a conservative martyr, much like mama grizzly ~ oh wait! :-P
shiloh said...
A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest ~ Lie la lie
Happily, shiloh is coming to terms with his many pathologies and can verbalize them.
No accident the last word of his nonsense syllables is 'lie'.
Dr Freud would find that highly significant.
PS OK, name calling. I'm sure little shiloh had his list sent to him by Kos after weeks of trying to come up with anything they felt was "offensive". Too bad he didn't look more closely or he'd find about many are used by the Democrats!!!
To wit: Obama care (which GodZero himself claimed at one point), govt. bailout, held hostage, Hitler, states’ rights, civil liberties, strict constructionist
Then there are the ones used, principally by Jews to ID anti-Semmitic remarks or positions:
blood slander, blood libel
And, of course, definitions used by the public at large:
socialized medicine, illegal aliens, marriage penalty, giving aid and comfort to the enemy (somebody remind bathtub swabbie this was in the Constitution he claims he took an oath to defend when he supposedly joined the USN), ground zero mosque, death tax.
As well as monickers proudly claimed by academicians:
Communists, Socialist, Marxist.
Gee, shiloh needs to vet his material.
Doesn't he?
Love,
"In 2009, they pumped $50 billion into the economy"
Amazing. Truly amazing! $50 billion from out of nowhere, into the economy! What's not to like???
Oh, wait--$50 billion is actually chump change, compared to the entire US GDP. D*mn them pikers, dribbling out a measly $50bn when they could have made it $500bn, or even in the trillions! Just imagine the effect that would have had!!!
Or maybe...
... just maybe ...
... that money comes from "the economy" in the first place, and so there's no pumping "into" occurring at all.
Love (my ass),
Is your gullibility boundless?
PP’s own web site PROVES the “Progressive” propaganda you got from Media Matters is a BALD FACE LIE! Click the damn links!
Waco has two PP facilities. The first offers ONLY "mammogram referrals". The second offers ONLY "mammogram referrals".
As my post PROVES (using PP's own web site), there are no PP facilities ANYWHERE in the entire country which offer anything other than "mammogram referrals".
This makes PP -- at BEST -- an utterly useless middleman skimming money off the top which could be more effectively and more efficiently applied by funding grants directly to the providers who actually provide the mammography. That is EXACLY what SGK hoped to do.
I realize it is hard for you shrill advocates for mass murder to admit, but the FACT is that, by bullying SGK into funding PP, you have demonstrably HARMED the interests of women (for the sake of your bloated sacred cow -- PP).
"Same as car insurance. "
The comedy gold just keeps on rolling!
No, it's not just like car insurance. Show me an auto policy anywhere that covers oil changes, tuneups, routine replacement of tires, etc. You can't do it because, unlike medical coverage, car insurance is real insurance--iow insurance-insurance (thanks, Whoopie)--and it works by spreading the risk. Being as economically unhinged from reality as you are (cf that food stamp money being "pumped into" the economy), perhaps you do NOT realize that cost-saving via risk-sharing only works for things that are statistically unlikely to occur.
Love said...
Once again...
Waco, TX Planned Parenthood Has Provided Over 2,000 Mammograms Since 2001.
Hysterical you keep posting the same thing without understanding they are changing the commonly understood definition of "provides"
Love why can't you understand that?
Are you dumb?
"Every $5 in new food stamp benefits generates a total of $9.20 in community spending," and each "$1 billion of retail food demand by food stamp recipients generates 3,300 farm jobs."
One question, mr/ms Love. If I may. I would be delighted if you could answer it for me.
Where does the money for the food stamp program come from?
Love has never had a mammogram.
Love said...
From a Waco Planned Parenthood Newsletter..
Love:
There are zero, that would be no, mammogram machines at planned parenthood offices in the United States.
No matter how many times you paste that planned parenthood "provides" mammograms, that fact doesn't change.
Or, as as Nancy Brinker, founder and CEO of Komen foundation, says in a video "Wherever possible, we want to grant to the provider that is actually providing the lifesaving mammogram"
Are you suggesting Nancy Brinker is lying?
Typical "Progressive"..."
Jay, by definition progressives are progressive and conservatives are conservative er regressive.
Hope this helps ...
Or conservatives want to preserve life while progressives march us to death.
Or progressives want to take us back to feudal times which is slightly better than death.
Love said...
Once again...
Waco, TX Planned Parenthood Has Provided Over 2,000 Mammograms Since 2001
Love, you're a rube for easy propaganda.
So why did Planned Parenthood lose funding? Brinker says it has to do with the fact that they do not provide mammograms to women, but only provide mammogram referrals. “It was nothing they were doing wrong,” she explained. “We have decided not to fund, whereever possible, pass-through grants. We were giving them money, they were sending women out for mammograms. What we would like to have are clinics where we can directly fund mammograms.”
There are zero, that would be no, mammogram machines at planned parenthood offices in the United States.
Are you suggesting Nancy Brinker is lying?
Once again...
Waco, TX Planned Parenthood Has Provided Over 2,000 Mammograms Since 2001.
From a Waco Planned Parenthood Newsletter...(NOTE - : "From a Waco Planned Parenthood Newsletter")
In 2009 we provided 487 mammograms and 162 diagnostic follow-up procedures for our patients. Since this program began in 2001, we have provided 2,683 mammograms to low-income women. [Waco Planned Parenthood, Spring/Summer 2010]
where was this location? the PP site?
PP or SGK paid for them to be done not on PP property.
PP Doesn't have the equipment.
Which is the point.
Does anyone else feel how staggeringly futile the back and forth is on this thread...or, indeed, any thread on abortion? I have never once read a single comment from either side in which the author said..."You know what? You've got a good point. I need to rethink this a little bit."
It occurs to me that a great deal of this bullshit is blogsterbation.
Feel free to delete this Meade; I'm trying to get to the post-200 comments by commenting myself. Have no idea if it will work.
edutcher likes me, he really likes me!
Actually, it's my original list from about 3 years ago, first posted at Nate Silver's original 538.com, about the time Luntz did several weeks of research and came up w/"statist" and sent it out to all the conservative lemmings in the media.
Like here, I've revised my list a couple times as Luntz has come up w/new and exciting ways to embellish the conservative meme.
Another of my personal faves is Agnew's In the United States today, we have more than our share of the nattering nabobs of negativism.
and
A spirit of national masochism prevails, encouraged by an effete corps of impudent snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals
Indeed, as Luntz has slighlt improved on Safire's eloquent prose. :D
Again edutcher, thanx for caring! :)
Amazing. Truly amazing! $50 billion from out of nowhere, into the economy! What's not to like???
Now you're just being mean Kirk Parker!
Love posted data don't you know!!!
Yay! It did! So aside from having to comment blindly, I have a useful workaround.
Thank you for your indulgence.
Again Meade/Althouse, help a brother out by showing them the way to 200+ post land.
Love (my ass),
You’re gonna LOVE (pardon the pun) my latest post (especially since you were gullible enough to fall for the brazen LIES promulgated by Media Matters -- I’m guessing you do that a lot).
Click here and read the post titled:
“Media Matters is a Bald Faced Liar (DUH!)”
shiloh said...
Again edutcher, thanx for caring! :)
Another word for the shiloh dictionary:
Care - to make a complete fool of, to show how the other person has no awareness of what he says.
PS I'd have included "fair and balanced" in bathtub swabbie's list of expressions he doesn't understand, but most people would consider that a compliment, not name calling.
Bathtub swabbie would rather be unfair and unbalanced, it would seem.
edutcher trying to wear me down w/terms of endearment ...
and it may be working! :D
Love asked: "what possible difference does an insurance company being required to pay for them matter...to anybody"
Where will the insurance company get the money to pay for them? Will they lower their profits for their shareholders? Will they cut the salary of their leadership? Will they cut their janitorial staff or outsource their HR?
Nope.
They will raise your premium.
OR, we could get the GOVERNMENT to pay for it!!!!!!!!!
Wait, that is just your tax dollars. They would raise your taxes. No, that is wrong, they would borrow the money from China and get my children to pay for it.
See, your premise is wrong Love. Their is no free money. The free contraceptions are abstinence and self control.
Nothing else is free.
Think on these things.
Trey
Another thing that might help those of you who support abortion rights to understand the Christian opposition to abortion is to understand what it means to us.
Abortion is murder of the only truly innocent in our view. It is callous disregard for God's gift of life. It is blasphemy.
And to us, it is dangerous. It calls down judgment upon those who practice and facilitate it. It is a frightening and completely barbaric practice, the pinnacle of selfishness and vanity.
So we advocate for those innocents.
And we pray for you who are calling judgment upon yourselves. We pray for your conversion and for your forgiveness. We understand and accept that you have no idea what you are doing.
But we know how dangerous your actions are for you, for our country, and our world.
That is our perspective.
God bless and forgive you.
Trey
While many of the people in the rank and file of the abortion movement clearly feel very strongly about the issue, that doesn't mean that your passion is reason for other Americans to surrender their rights or grant you primacy over their lives.
And your political leadership never ever wants this issue to be settled because you in the rank and file allow them to manipulate you with it, to distract you from their other hand in your pocket, ripping you off.
We can work together to reduce abortions using voluntary means, education and lots of birth control. That approach works a lot better than the millions spent on this eternal political fight.
But the anti-abortion movement leaders don't want people to have birth control, either! They reject the quickest route to reducing abortions, along with sex ed.
Hence many people conclude it's REALLY all about stopping other people from having sex you do not approve of, of controlling peoples' intimate lives.
Even while you all run around crying "FREEDOM!"
No thank you.
Also, how many people want to lock up women in prison for having abortions? Drs? Let's see that pol, Ann!
(Along with cost estimates for new abortion police and prisons).
"how many people want to lock up women in prison for having abortions"
Women are already locked up for committing all manner of other homicides. Maybe we need a special prison to house those so depraved as to murder their own children (for no greater purpose than their personal convenience).
AlphaLiberal said...
Also, how many people want to lock up women in prison for having abortions?
Who is calling for this?
Oh, nobody.
Carry on in your silliness...
AlphaLiberal said...
But the anti-abortion movement leaders don't want people to have birth control, either!
Something you couldn't possibly prove you silly little liar.
"Who is calling for this [imprisoning women so depraved as to murder their own children]?"
What rational person would NOT call for this (not retroactively, of course)?
We already imprison women so depraved as to murder their own children. Why would we not -- going forward -- imprison women so depraved as to murder their unborn children (when the mother's life is not at risk)?
That's strange, I only show 200 posts.
AlphaLiberal said...
Also, how many people want to lock up women in prison for having abortions?
What about drinking alcohol? Or drugs?
Now that -- coast to coast -- 9 to 5 "working" hours (in government buildings) are over, none of the so-called "Progressives" are posting anymore. Fascinating.
One technique to avoid losing a debate (or even engaging in a debate) is to make a personal attack instead and turn the debate about a difficult question into a series of insults. This happens over and over.
Better to focus on the central question (for example, prove that a not yet born baby is not human) rather than trade insults. Once you start trading insults, you may have been out maneuvered.
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Forcing hospitals/insurance companies to provide/cover abortions or birth control is a big mistake by Obama. It is a violation of liberty, which is enough to make it unacceptable. It makes it clear how ObamaCare is certain to routinely violate our liberty.
Beyond that, it is mobilizing the Catholic church to oppose Obama. There are a lot of Catholics in the USA. If the priest starts strongly criticizing Obama every week at mass, that will have a big effect in the 2012 election.
It may also provide an efficient mechanism for the GOP to make inroads on Hispanic voters (who are mostly Catholic).
"If one is not "mandated" to buy or take contraceptives, what possible difference does an insurance company being required to pay for them matter...to anybody?"
The government is mandating employers pay for the contraceptives through the premiums.
It matters to employers who don't want to pay for that.
Employers are people too. Stuff can matter to them.
After doing more search I'm ready and willing to admit that the portion of the newsletter I posted was just that; a "portion."
It was a mistake on my part because it left this out:
The Central Texas Affiliate of The Susan G. Komen Foundation granted $25,000 to the Planned Parenthood mammography program to provide screening for low-income women and an additional $20,000 for abnormal mammography follow-up diagnostic testing for 2010.
*Planned Parenthood contracts with the Hillcrest Breast Screening Center and Providence Breast Health Center to provide mammography to selected low-income patients.
When you're worng you're wrong.
Not sure how someone who runs for office on a hardcore anti-choice platform is "in the middle."
SGK is & has always been a right-leaning outfit - which the Handel hire confirms - & their 180 on defunding PP (& the mealy-mouthed way they did it) has hurt them in the pocketbook nearly as badly as their original decision did.
If you give to SGK somewhere around 39% of your money actually helps people with breast cancer. If you donate to Sloan-Kettering or John Hopkins directly it's close to 100%. Guess it depends on how much you like pink ribbons.
There's been much tut-tutting on the Right over the exorbitant salaries of PP execs since this story broke. Remember that there are also those who are making good money "fighting for Life" - but unlike PP, their books are not open to public scrutiny, nor are they likely to ever be.
One might also note that far more has happened to restrict access to abortion under Obama than under Bush, even with GOP control of both the White House & Congress. A cynical observer might even speculate that abortion is a sure-fire hot-button issue for Republicans (not to mention one that perennially helps them raise a ton of easy money from fundamentalists) & that overturning Roe v. Wade is the last thing they ever want to see happen on this issue.
Love says:
"When you're worng [sic] you're wrong."
Congratulations -- that's a start.
So, are you ready to admit that Media Matters (as usual) flat out lied to you?
More importantly...
If you ever wake up and come to the realization that the entire "Progressive" ideology is PURE MYTHOLOGY, be sure to let us all know.
Jim,
If you are really so naive as to believe that PP's books are "open to public scrutiny"...
Click here and disabuse yourself of THAT carefully constructed fantasy.
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