"... 'during which students wore clothes and behaved in a manner that 'from their perspective, mimicked black culture,' according to a federal class action lawsuit..."
This wasn't an official school event, but something the students did, using Facebook to get the word out (apparently). The allegation is that the school should have intervened.
There are 1,889 comments over there at that HuffPo piece. I didn't read them all, but my impression is that people disapprove of this lawsuit.
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Making fun of bald people is not acceptable humor.
Chemo-therapy happens to people.
"These students were not disciplined, they were not counseled and they were not punished."
Making the simulation complete.
I note the operative phrase, "from their perspective". So this is how some people may have viewed it, but it was not necessarily the intent.
And, of course, Big Brother, in the personage of the school district, was supposed to interfere with the students' First Amendment rights in the name of PC.
Anybody want to bet if they had Teahadi Day, in which bitter clingers were portrayed as suicide bombers, the plaintiff would not be so exercised and there would be no lawsuit?
A Minnesota school district allowed a homecoming event called 'Wigger Day' during which students wore clothes and behaved in a manner that 'from their perspective, mimicked black culture,...
I'd like to see that. It's not authentic unless some of them are angry and traumatized, y'know.
I propose Wigger Week. Minstrel Mondays, Uncle Tom Tuesdays, Whatchoo-talkin'-about-Willis Wednesdays, Strom Thurmond Thursdays, and, um, Kentucky Fried Fridays. That might provoke a lawsuit, though. Hmm.
Why aren't "Wigger's" proud of their culture, and consider it a compliment?...just wonderin'
@Fen
ROFLMAO!!!
Of course, this type of 'emulation' goes on, individually, every day in America...and has for quite some time.
Big whoop. Draws been hangin' out for a long time.
Now its a problem???
Browndog said...
Why aren't "Wigger's" proud of their culture, and consider it a compliment?...just wonderin'
From the plaintiff's attorney's POV, imitation is the sinecure form of flattery.
I don't know what their intent was but the word wigger used to be used to mock middle/upper class white kids who tried to imitate hip hop culture. If it caused anyone emotional distress, it should have been the kids who normally dress like that regardless of their race. It's worse than shorts on men!
I simply use the term Whegro; although many young people think Negro is derogatory.
They could organize a day when everybody acts offended, which seems to be the true culture.
To settle this, I propose that black high schools in Minneapolis have a "Bonky Day" where they dress and act like white kids.
I found it funny that the fragile little hothouse flower who filed the suit was so traumatized that she had to escape raaaaacist Minnesota to open minded, tolerant Arkansas. I'll bet that part won't be in the Law and Order dramatization.
Recently, I witnessed a confrontation in front of my local Wall-Mart. A young black man was loudly berating a young white woman. The words I heard clearly were from him, “You don't have to be black to be thug. There are plenty of white thugs.” The woman was dressed as a gangsta wannabe—Blood Colors I think. Plus, she had black-face makeup on her face. I did not hang around to see how it ended.
Mary Beth said...
"I don't know what their intent was but the word wigger used to be used to mock middle/upper class white kids who tried to imitate hip hop culture."
AH!!
I learned something today.
Thank-you!
I assumed everyone knew that white gangsta wannabes were called wiggers.
Other than the fact it was in really poor taste, I don't think it spells the revival of the Klan. Sorry HuffPo kids.
ken in sc said...
I assumed everyone knew that white gangsta wannabes were called wiggers.
You assumed.....
MarkG,
To settle this, I propose that black high schools in Minneapolis have a "Bonky Day" where they dress and act like white kids.
Two things:
1) I tried picturing that and crippled my imagination.
2) That's the question I would've put to the students:
What do you think you're doing? Do you think black kids are going around copying you?
Get a dialogue, and their poor, claustrophobic minds going,...where the lawsuit comes into it, I don't know. Seems like a "teachable moment" to me.
If we're going to have free speech, we have to have distasteful free speech. Not appropriate at school though.
Nephew is a whigger. (Isn't that the way it's spelled? I've only heard it pronounced that way.). His black friends rag him about it and tell him no one dresses like that anymore.
Fine.
I'll go there-
I've always maintained the divide is the culture, not the skin color.
What say you, Crack?
Whitey's on the Moon
A rat done bit my sister Nell.
(with Whitey on the moon)
Her face and arms began to swell.
(and Whitey's on the moon)
I can't pay no doctor bills.
(but Whitey's on the moon)
Ten years from now I'll be payin' still
While Whitey's on the moon.
You know, the man jus' upped my rent las' night,
'cause Whitey's on the moon.
No hot water, no toilets, no lights,
but Whitey's on the moon.
I wonder why he's uppi' me?
'cause Whitey's on the moon?
Well I wuz already givin' 'im fifty a week
And now Whitey's on the moon.
Taxes takin' my whole damn check,
The junkies make me a nervous wreck,
The price of food is goin' up,
An' as if all that crap wuzn't enough,
A rat done bit my sister Nell.
(with Whitey on the moon)
Her face an' arms began to swell
And Whitey's on the moon.
Was all that money I made las' year
For Whitey on the moon?
How come I ain't got no money here?
Hmm! Whitey's on the moon.
Y'know I jus' about had my fill
Of Whitey on the moon.
I think I'll sen' these doctor bills,
Airmail special...
to whitey on the moon
I always hated Whitey Herzog.
Oh wait...wrong thread.
Just think how we southerners feel after watching this:
http://realvideosite.com/Comedy_102_Dave-Chapelle---Black-white-supremacist-clip
I'm gonna call Gloria Allred. After I stop laughing.
PS: Most definitely NSFW!
Browndog,
I've always maintained the divide is the culture, not the skin color.
What say you, Crack?
Has to be - skin color don't do shit.
YoungHegelian,
You just reminded me:
I ran across this a few days ago and forgot about it.
"from their perspective, mimicked black culture (As seen on TV, Music Videos, Rap Albums, & Films),"
FIFY
Can they check a "wigger" box on college applications?
And if you ever wanted to know why Dave Chappelle got out of show business,...
People really do want the schools to take the place of parents!
In the progressive world, union-run school districts trumps racial sensitivity. Who knew?
A real question: were the students mocking the racial stereotypes held by some whites or were they mocking blacks? If it's the former, that could also explain Huffpost ambivalence.
People really do want the schools to take the place of parents!
Huh?
"Get a dialogue, and their poor, claustrophobic minds going,...where the lawsuit comes into it, I don't know. Seems like a "teachable moment" to me."
I'm guessing they were having some fun with hip-hop culture: ballcaps on sideways, underwear hanging out, etc.
For your "teachable moment", you'd have to get them to be ashamed of their fun. Good luck with that.
Maybe it's the word wigger that's offensive. Perhaps if they spliced white and black, and everyone wore wack clothes, it would be less offensive.....Men's styles used to be influenced by what upper class Britons wore. Rep ties, heavy tweeds, Burberry raincoats with brass attachments everywhere. Such clothes are no less foolish and a great deal more uncomfortable than whatever black gang members wear nowadays. It's interesting to note that some white kids now think of blacks and not English aristocrats as the power and status group to emulate.
Writ Small,
A real question: were the students mocking the racial stereotypes held by some whites or were they mocking blacks?
They weren't mocking anybody, they're searching for an authentic identity. That they can't see they have one already is the travesty.
"Wigger" first came from a very very bad poem in National Lampoon's 1964 High School Yearbook Parody, specifically the 'Leaf & Squib' the school literary magazine.
A guy I knew in Virginia was complaining about his son who was in high school. He was in the wigga clique until he got beat up by some black guys. Then he totally changed his style and joined the redneck clique.
". It's interesting to note that some white kids now think of blacks and not English aristocrats as the power and status group to emulate"
Historian Paul Johnson noted this tendency for "downward mobility" in American popular culture dating back to the 1920s, waxing and waning ever since.
MarkG,
I'm guessing they were having some fun with hip-hop culture: ballcaps on sideways, underwear hanging out, etc.
For your "teachable moment", you'd have to get them to be ashamed of their fun. Good luck with that.
I wouldn't make them ashamed - I love black culture, and not only understand why they they like it but am happy they do, being an improvement on how whites saw it when I was their age. But I would stress the value in who they are - as individuals and not part of any group identity - letting them know that, amongst blacks, they'll have a harder time being respected because it's obvious they don't think well of themselves: the wigger shit is a "tell" they can be played/influenced/manipulated.
There's nothing wrong with liking any music, or culture, but - without a firm appreciation for your own sense of self - they're just practicing for being fed to the wolves.
Timing: I just saved a white friend of mine from being beat up in an airport bathroom, because some white Hip-Hop-loving guys heard him talking on the phone to some black friends and he said the word nigger. They were offended (on my behalf, I guess) and were going to hem him up over it, so he called me to explain he's not a racist. I told them, if he was, he's really bad at it.
Life is funny. Mine, especially.
Well said, Crack.
WTF?
If we're looking for some places to cut the federal budget, might I suggest we start with the salary and benefits currently allocated for this trial?
Obviously the worst part of this is that whigger is a portmanteau for White Nigger. If no-one sees a problem with a bunch of kids going around calling themselves white niggers, then, I just don't know.
ndspinelli said...
I simply use the term Whegro; although many young people think Negro is derogatory.
8/3/11 6:58 PM
A lot of young people think Negro is derogatory? It IS derogatory you moron. Do "older people" honestly still go around referring to people as negros? wtf
AFG,
None of it's derogatory, they're just words. It's ideas that are derogatory.
The problem is, rather than accept our history and culture, we're at war with it - and thus, at war with ourselves. I mean, this attempt to pluck words, like "nigger" and "negro," out of people's hearts and minds is a perfect example of it.
A determined immaturity, more than anything else, is our issue.
Once we grow up, we'll be fine.
The Crack Emcee --
"They weren't mocking anybody, they're searching for an authentic identity. That they can't see they have one already is the travesty." Emph added.
No they weren't. I went to the site. It's a friggin' spoof.
Pogo said... 'Historian Paul Johnson noted this tendency for "downward mobility" in American popular culture dating back to the 1920s, waxing and waning ever since.'
Yet another example of how the self-hating death spiral of Western civilization dates back to WWI.
Is there any common sense here?
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