A source who spoke to several justices present during the incident told the Journal Sentinel that the confrontation occurred after 5:30 p.m. June 13, the day before high court's release of a decision upholding a bill to curtail the collective bargaining rights of public employees.According to the Journal Sentinel, Prosser issued a statement today, saying the accusation against him "will be proven false."
At least five justices, including Prosser and Bradley, had gathered in Bradley's office and were informally discussing the decision. The conversation grew heated, the source said, and Bradley asked Prosser to leave. Bradley was bothered by disparaging remarks Prosser had made about Chief Justice Shirley Abrahamson.
Bradley felt Prosser "was attacking the chief justice," the source said. Before leaving, Prosser "put his hands around her neck in what (Bradley) described as a chokehold," the source said. "He did not exert any pressure, but his hands were around her neck," the source said. The source said the act "was in no way playful."
But another source told the Journal Sentinel that Bradley attacked Prosser. "She charged him with fists raised," the source said. Prosser "put his hands in a defensive posture," the source said. "He blocked her." In doing so, the source said, he made contact with Bradley's neck.
Another source said the justices were arguing... [and] Prosser said he''d lost all confidence in [Abrahamson's] leadership. Bradley then came across the room "with fists up," the source said. Prosser put up his hands to push her back. Bradley then said she had been choked, according to the source. Another justice - the source wouldn't say who - responded, "You were not choked."
The NYT has picked up the story: "Wisconsin Judge Said to Have Attacked Colleague." The NYT article refers to the Journal Sentinel's new article this way:
Late Saturday, a separate Milwaukee Journal Sentinel report described a physical encounter in which two sources offered conflicting accounts of what happened, including one in which Justice Bradley was said to have charged at Justice Prosser.I'm reading the Journal Sentinel's account as referring to 3 — not 2 — sources, with 2 of the 3 versions portraying Bradley as the aggressor: "the source... another source... [a]nother source...."
I want to know not only what really happened at the time of the physical contact (if any) between the 2 justices, but also who gave the original story to the press. If Prosser really tried to choke a nonviolent Bradley, he should resign. But if the original account is a trumped-up charge intended to destroy Prosser and obstruct the democratic processes of government in Wisconsin, then whoever sent the report out in that form should be held responsible for what should be recognized as a truly evil attack.
ADDED: Everyone who thinks Prosser must to resign if he attacked Bradley ought to say that if Bradley attacked Prosser, she should resign. If that happens, then the tactic of leaking the original version of the story to the press will have backfired horrifically for Democrats, as Governor Scott Walker will name the Justice to replace Bradley. If both Justices erred and must resign, that will be 2 appointments for Walker, both of whom, I would imagine, will be stronger, younger, and more conservative than Prosser, and, with Bradley gone, the liberal faction on the court will be reduced to 2, against a conservative majority of 5.
AND: Remember, the legislature has the power to impeach, so it is Bradley who is at the greater risk as the story, suppressed for 11 days, comes out. The legislature could play neutral and impeach both Prosser and Bradley, but that would give 2 appointments to Scott Walker.
ALSO: People may assume that the man is larger than the woman, but — from what I have heard — Bradley is significantly larger than Prosser. Bradley is also 7 years younger than Prosser, who is 68.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 214 of 214So first he calls Shirley Abrahamson a bitch and says it was "warranted" and now this.
If we believe Prosser, then he winds up in the company of women who "deserve" some sort of abuse a lot more than the average man.
I'm with Steve Benen on this one; "Given Prosser’s track record and apparent hostility towards women, it’s awfully difficult to give him the benefit of the doubt"
Again and off topic--a good time to memorialize my mortar platoon sergeant, BobbY Hall. when i was in deep shit I would call for fire support--and I would call danger close--SFC Bobby Hall would put the rounds on the target just outside the bursting radius. He saved me three times. There are sarges--the poster known as sarge aint one of them. This fucking idiot denigrates allof the great NCOs that are the US Army
Go fuck yourself "sarge" you dont have the ability.
Yes, because calling someone a bitch is JUST LIKE choking someone.
This is what happens when you allow feminists/leftists to redefine words and make it a crime to yell at adult women by calling it "abuse" and to allow lawsuits and criminal complaints because of it.
Sarge is a buffoon. Not even entertaining, like Titus is.
sarge said...
sarge will dd down yar leg an yar will tell sarge its only rainin you hear the sarge well boy do yar?
Hi shiloh!
"Sarge" you are a sorry piece of shit--you wont go away because the internt gives you a forum--but you are a sorry piece of shit, but thats just you
OK apologies to the group but when someone tries to impinge on the caliber of our military non coms I do get a bit esercised.
apologies for the diversion
"Just words. And, words from skirts, no less."
I'll bite. Are you suggesting Sharia had it right? A skirt's vote is worth half that of a pair of pants?
Actually, that kind of makes sense, in that pants have two hollow tubes ....
No, actually, it doesn't make any sense at all.
Bradley must go. Zero tolerance.
Has it been determined, one or the other, any truth to the allegation that Chief Justice Abrahamson is a bitch? Perhaps the veracity of that claim needs to be considered. After all, if it is the truth, is it hating for him to state it?
Or is he an ex-teacher, and so feels entitled to stating the obvious?
I've never been in a "choke-hold". I have heard from others in some form of military training where they were paired-off, and the objective was to not only put your partner in a choke-hold, but to choke them unconscious. I seriously doubt she could identify a "choke-hold" if it was draped about her neck. Further, I am sure no one has ever put a real live choke-hold on her, regardless of how much she might deserve it.
Freeman Hunt said...
What universe does one live in where it is believable that Prosser just started strangling one justice in front of others, and no one immediately reported it?
Wisconsin, apparently.
Why was Prosser in her office? Was he there because somebody had said "let's meet in Bradley's office to discuss...."? In which case, her office was temporarily being used as a meeting room. She gave up the right to kick somebody out of her office. Had this meeting been in a conference room, she wouldn't get to kick him out of the conference room. Had he been there because the two of them were having a chat, then she could kick him out of her office.
In the spirit of Sore-Losermans everywhere:
"Hey, don't cry!
Hey, don't grumble!
Kloppenburg lost the election,
but we'll win the Rumble!"
Just the other day I was fuedin' with my girlfriend when she jumped up from the chair and ran at me with her hands curled into fist, arms rased. So I poped her a couple of times in the face. Merely self defense ya know. I am so glad that Ann agrees with me.
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