Althouse: "So when a white person holds objectionable views — racism, for example

February 5, 2011

"So when a white person holds objectionable views — racism, for example — we rightly condemn them."

"But when equally unacceptable views or practices have come from someone who isn’t white, we’ve been too cautious, frankly even fearful, to stand up to them."

Prime Minister David Cameron, daring to say that his country has values.

37 comments:

traditionalguy said...: Naming the enemy is always the first step in defeating the enemy. But can the PM be arrested and imprisoned for this hate speech outburst?; 2/5/11, 5:35 PM
mesquito said...: Gee. How did all those Muslims get into England?; 2/5/11, 5:38 PM
mesquito said...: There are practical things we can do as well.

That includes making sure immigrants speak the language of their new home.

And ensuring that people are educated in elements of a common culture and curriculum.

This will never, never do.; 2/5/11, 5:40 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: Waiting for the Western World to join me in it is tiring.; 2/5/11, 5:43 PM
chickelit said...: Isn't this related to the dialog between Kim Gordon and Chuck D in Kool Thing?

White, male sexism is loathesome but its OK for a poor oppressed black guy like Chuck D?; 2/5/11, 5:45 PM
PaulV said...: NYTimes has the back of the women haters and intolerant oce again.

WV: trypc
When all else fail try PC; 2/5/11, 5:52 PM
kent said...: Perhaps most controversially, he called for an end to a double standard that he said had tolerated the propagation of radical views among nonwhite groups that would be suppressed if they involved radical groups among whites.

The left will destroy him for this, or attempt to do so.; 2/5/11, 5:57 PM
Big Mike said...: It's called the tipping point.; 2/5/11, 5:58 PM
Trooper York said...: Jeeez. I guess Barry really pissed him off with the nuclear thingy.; 2/5/11, 6:06 PM
Trooper York said...: What is he gonna do when he lets slip the secret that Princess Anne is a dude.; 2/5/11, 6:09 PM
rhhardin said...: Enjoyment of good character should no longer be a white monopoly, he's saying.; 2/5/11, 6:17 PM
DADvocate said...: Cameron's point is true for more than just race, look at Chick Fil A and the gays who think we can only act as they dictate. No belief in freedom there.; 2/5/11, 6:25 PM
Unknown said...: The Lefties created the double standard to protect their constituents and denigrate their enemies.

If this is happening in Blighty, it shouldn't be long before you see it here.; 2/5/11, 6:27 PM
Alex said...: Crack - the blind worship of Kanye West is proof that America has a LONG way to go.; 2/5/11, 6:48 PM
Harry said...: It's good to say this, and people occasionally do, but nothing ever changes, does it?; 2/5/11, 6:52 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: Alex,

Crack - the blind worship of Kanye West is proof that America has a LONG way to go.

Oh, didn't you hear? His last album was an (almost unlistenable) "masterpiece"!

Then, after the false buying frenzy subsided, they came to their senses.

Further proof our lives are engulfed in a massive lie - and, yes Alex, for him. Could there be a bigger waste of our nation's attention?

gah!; 2/5/11, 7:37 PM
I'm Full of Soup said...: This speech and its message is very encouraging to me. Hopefully, logic and common sense are making a comeback in the West.

Conservatives should be prepared to give the Cee-Lo [Is that his name?] response [FU] to dumb librul programs and PC nonsense.; 2/5/11, 7:42 PM
Chris said...: Dear Mr. Cameron: You're too late.; 2/5/11, 7:48 PM
Kirby Olson said...: Right now it's only straight white men who can be bigoted, according to the MSM.

Sharpton's biases, or Obama's attack on the Cambridge police officer, don't exactly go unnoticed, but they don't lose their jobs as say, Imus, did.; 2/5/11, 8:17 PM
Gene said...: TraditionalGuy: can the PM be arrested and imprisoned for this hate speech outburst?

I don't know what the rules are in Britain but in Canada Cameron's ass would be in a sling. They put people in jail up there for slighting woolly mammoths.; 2/5/11, 8:46 PM
former law student said...: Note that Cameron thinks it's OK to suppress the radical thoughts of white people. There should be one rule for all, but I don't think thought suppression is the way to go. Waiting and watching the nuts seems more productive to me.; 2/5/11, 8:53 PM
lucid said...: Cameron and Merkel have been so far ahead of us on this issue.

The Affirmative Action industry in the US has made it impossible to talk clearly and honestly about race, and the disease has spread to not being able to talk honestly about Islam--as no less a personage than Bernard Lewis has asserted.

I think this is one of the most consequential areas crying out for the operation of free speech.

And I have to say that I think Althouse has failed in this particular free speech area, being very carefully politically correct most of the time.; 2/5/11, 9:10 PM
former law student said...: What are you saying? Bernard Lewis can no longer talk honestly about Islam?; 2/5/11, 9:23 PM
Cedarford said...: mesquito said...
Gee. How did all those Muslims get into England?

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Same way they got into America.

1. Open Borders businessmen that wanted cheap labor. Also to use the Pakis to undercut wages of native British workers, further increasing their profits while passing the social costs of the 3rd worlders not on employers, but the tax paying British masses.
2. Christian and Jewish do-gooders that wanted "noble persecuted Islamoid and African wannabe refugees "denied their human rights" in their own fouled native nests admitted to Britain. "Send us the wretched refuse from your teeming shores", powerful do-gooders said; "Even those who want to rob and kill us"; 2/5/11, 9:30 PM
lucid said...: @fls

Bernard Lewis has spoken about an atmosphere of intimidation and repression that surrounds even scholarly discourse about Islam.

Are you really surprised to hear it?; 2/5/11, 9:42 PM
lucid said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 2/5/11, 9:51 PM
lucid said...: @fls

Here is the report of what Lewis said and a link to the article.

Lack of Openness Makes Scholarly Discussion of Islam Dangerous, Says Bernard Lewis

Written by Matt Korade, CQ Staff
Saturday, 26 April 2008 19:00

One of the world’s foremost Islamic scholars warned Friday that Middle Eastern studies programs have been distorted by “a degree of thought control and limitations of freedom of expression without parallel in the Western world since the 18th century, and in some areas longer than that.”

Bernard Lewis, professor emeritus of Near Eastern studies at Princeton University, made the remarks in the keynote address at the annual meeting of the Association for the Study of the Middle East and Africa, an organization Lewis chairs. His address, titled “Studying the Other: Different Ways of Looking at the Middle East and Africa,” examined the development of Middle Eastern studies and the challenges it faces inside and outside of academia.

These difficulties arise mainly from post-modernist thought, the current, combined orthodoxies of multiculturalism and political correctness, and a “clash of disciplines,” primarily between historians and Arabic linguists, which have undermined the serious, objective study of Islam.

“It seems to me it’s a very dangerous situation, because it makes any kind of scholarly discussion of Islam, to say the least, dangerous,” Lewis said.

“Islam and Islamic values now have a level of immunity from comment and criticism in the Western world that Christianity has lost and Judaism has never had.”

http://www.asmeascholars.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1163%3Alack-of-openness-makes-scholarly-discussion-of-islam-dangerous-says-bernard-lewis&catid=12%3Aassociation-news&Itemid=73; 2/5/11, 9:54 PM
DADvocate said...: Waiting and watching the nuts seems more productive to me.

Interesting choice of a word.; 2/5/11, 10:00 PM
Methadras said...: Well, at least he's letting his balls drop a little. Getting them to grow by dealing with the errant muslim enclaves that have burrowed and entrenched themselves in the UK will be a lot different. Multiculty never worked and should be abandoned world wide. Especially here in the states.; 2/5/11, 10:38 PM
Automatic_Wing said...: Islamic Rage Boy is not pleased.; 2/5/11, 10:40 PM
Anonymous said...: One thing to remember about Britain is that there is a very wide socioeconomic achievement gap between non-Muslim and Muslim (mainly Pakistani) immigrants.

Peter; 2/5/11, 11:39 PM
NotWhoIUsedtoBe said...: It's sad when stating the obvious is newsworthy.; 2/5/11, 11:50 PM
Hoosier Daddy said...: "But when equally unacceptable views or practices have come from someone who isn’t white, we’ve been too cautious, frankly even fearful, to stand up to them."

This is news?; 2/6/11, 12:44 AM
billm99uk said...: One thing to remember about Britain is that there is a very wide socioeconomic achievement gap between non-Muslim and Muslim (mainly Pakistani) immigrants.

Probably because there's not an awful lot of employment opportunities for goat-herders in Britain's inner cities...; 2/6/11, 9:55 AM
Anonymous said...: "Perhaps most controversially, he called for an end to a double standard that he said had tolerated the propagation of radical views among nonwhite groups that would be suppressed if they involved radical groups among whites."

Yes, the left will attempt to destroy him. That this is considered "controversial" at all is an indication of the huge mountain he will have to climb, alone.; 2/6/11, 10:25 AM
former law student said...: Bernard Lewis's approach to the study of the Muslim world was supplanted decades ago as Muslim scholars began to be heard. He still clings to his outsider's view, even forming his own associatio of like-minded scholars as the mainstream MESA passed him by.; 2/6/11, 10:34 PM
lucid said...: @fls

LOL. you are such a dork. no sense of honesty. no interest in the truth. first you question an assertion about what lewis thinks, then when it turns out he does think, you devalue him. you're just a dork. go away. you have no respect for actual communication, so you are not worth talking to.; 2/7/11, 8:30 AM