Her work at Fannie Mae, which had to be bailed out by the government in September as part of a $200 billion deal. Ms. Gorelick left the company just as it was coming under attack for huge accounting failures. She has also drawn criticism for her role at the Justice Department, in which she allegedly created an intelligence “wall” that hindered counterterrorism agents in the years before the Sept. 11 attacks. Conservatives called for her removal from the Sept. 11 commission, but her fellow members rallied around her and said critics were distorting her record. The criticism grew so heated that the F.B.I. investigated a death threat against her family, and President Bush had to intervene personally to stop the Justice Department from releasing sealed reports involving her. Some conservative bloggers have already begun trying to derail Ms. Gorelick’s possible nomination as attorney general, pointing to her experiences at both Fannie Mae and the Sept. 11 commission.Unbelievably ponderous baggage! Oh, but conservatives have attacked her. Does that somehow cancel the baggage? A better question: Why haven't liberals attacked her?
Beldar seethes:
Short of appointing an actual member of al Qaeda, I cannot imagine a more offensive symbolic repudiation of the Global War on Terror — nor a more enthusiastic embrace of the chronic mismanagement, cronyism, and graft which led to this fall's credit crisis — than the appointment of Jamie Gorelick as attorney general.I voted for Obama, as I'm sure my commenters are about to remind me, and I'm hoping for the best. He told me to hope! Please don't crush my hope so early, Mr. Obama.
ADDED: "They put stickies on the face of Mohammed Atta on the chart that the military intelligence unit had completed, and they said you can't talk to Atta because he's here on a green card." Something I quoted on Instapundit back in August 2005, which got me accused of "enlisting Glenn" in a "smear campaign" against Jamie Gorelick. Here's how Glenn responded at the time.
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Yeah, my heart sunk when I read that this morning. I thought it was a joke.
Well, I guess we'll get a pretty clear indication of where Obama's going if he nominates her. Better to know what we're up against, if that's the case, early, I think.
I wonder what John Stodder would think of this? And I'm not saying that to poke at him. I really want to know.
Can I note the obvious?
There is nothing in that article that says Obama is actually considering this pick. So when it says: Being considered for I have to ask By whom?
Jamie Gorelick will not accept any appointment in the Obama administration, if she knows what’s good for her.
She has already promised me she will star in our community theater company’s production of “Star Trek – The Musical.”
She promised she would play the Vulcan Ambassador.
I’ll sue! So help me, I’ll sue!
Madison, I hope you are correct.
Trey
Ann Althouse imitates "The Onion"
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/34198
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The NYT has some basis for forefronting her name. Perhaps the transition team is trying to test the waters. In which case, I would like them to find out that the waters are fully aboil.
I totally have to credit Bill (of So Quoted) in an online comment to me early this morning for drawing the connection between Gorelick and Zelig (or Forrest Gump). Her name and face just keeps popping up in connection with costly disasters.
Let's hope that with regard to the Obama administration, she only pops up in the NYT.
I think madison is right. As much as it pains me to give Barry the benefit of the doubt, this is the NYT we're talking about.
A few details left out of her Fannie Mae involvement: like her $26 million salary, and her sweetheart Countrywide $1 million home refinancing.
Puh-leez folks. This is an old Washington game. Someone is pushing Jamie Gorelick and is using the MSM to float a trial balloon. Or, there is somebody else who has a nontrivial quantity of baggage, but who will look wonderful next to Ms. Gorelick and people are supposed to ignore this new person's issue because "at least it isn't Gorelick."
There are only two ways she'll actually get nominated. First is a variation on the above, let her be a stalking horse and let Republicans take the heat for knocking her down, then put up the person President Obama really wants. Or, perhaps Mr. Obama is is simply overrated in the brains department. (Odds on the latter are pretty long -- I don't like his policies, but very few people think he's stupid. Just misguided.)
"...forefronting..."
Stop verbing nouns!!
"The NYT has some basis for forefronting her name. Perhaps the transition team is trying to test the waters. In which case, I would like them to find out that the waters are fully aboil."
AA is right; this is a trial balloon.
But it's still enough to gag a maggot.
He told me to hope! Please don't crush my hope so early, Mr. Obama.
And so the Kabuki theater ends earlier than expected. Is anyone seriously surprised that Obama would continue to surround himself with corruption and criminals?
Its merely payback time to the people who put this empty shell in power. The Chicago political machine goes national.
Based on some of the names people have floated for Obama's cabinet, Larry Summers and Rahm Emmanuel, I've been cautiously optimistic. Hearing Jamie Gorelick's name has pretty much driven a stake through the heart of that dream, burned it and spread its ashes at a crossroads.
So I will cling instead to the wan hope that the NYT doesn't know what it's talking about.
"As much as it pains me to give Barry the benefit of the doubt, this is the NYT we're talking about."
I know and because of that, I automatically assume that they would never intentionally or even accidentally print anything about Barry that hasn't been confirmed and approved by Obama's office.
Michael Brown is working on his resume.
I can't for the life of me see why it wouldn't be Walter Dellinger for AG and Kathleen Sullivan for SG.
I think Big Mike is right. Throw out a totally unacceptable name that gets trashed and anyone else looks good, except maybe Janet Reno (maybe).
This is change we need, right, change we can believe in?
Cannot be true. No way. Surely. Seriously. Please?
How does someone like Gorelick continue to get high profile jobs? If everything you were associated with turned into a fiasco, it seems like people wouldn't want you. What gives?
I disagree with Beldar that Gorelick is worth filibustering, but I'm delighted to see that at least one other conservative has abandoned the view that filibustering Presidential nominees is unacceptable.
She worked at Fannie Mae until 2003.
So. Freaking. What.
Seriously - is that really going to be considered a disqualification? Why? On what grounds?
You're a lawyer - I'd like to hear a logical explanation of how she's responsible for ANYTHING unethical Fannie Mae may have done.
And nobody who knows anything about the current financial crisis actually blames Fannie or Freddie Mae. They were victims of it.
And 99% of the commenters on this thread didn't vote for Obama.
Well guess what? He's not your President. You are unpatriotic enemies of the state and he doesn't need to listen to you.
Please don't crush my hope so early, Mr. Obama
What we seem to have here is a variation of the parable of the frog and the scorpion , except in this version the frogs have convinced themselves all on their own that the scorpion won't sting them.
As other posters have noted, this is the old trial balloon thing going on. And soon the sky will be filled with trial balloons for various cabinet positions. It happens every four or eight years.
Downtownlad,
Your last sentance betrays you know nothing about the current financial crisis. Fanny and Freddie clearly share a very, very large part of the blame.
Also, I doubt you'd let a potential Repub nominee off the hook so easily. The One would be a fool to consider Gorelick. Use Ann as your barometer on this one.
The next AG will be Eric Holder or Larry Thompson.
I'm pretty sure any Jewish anxieties about Barack Hussein Obama have been eliminated with the pick of Rahm Israel Emanuel as chief of staff and the talk of two establishment Jewish liberals Larry Summers as possible Treasury secretary and Jamie Gorelick as AG.
Change, change, change from a guy who selected lifelong Senate hack Joe Biden as his running mate.
The only surprise from Obama will be the selection of any person who isn't a long time member of the inside Washington crowd.
The only change this guy brings is a black wife and kids.
While I'm here, may I quickly suggest that anyone unfamiliar with John Podesta's think tank consider boning up a bit? That background might come in useful. The think tank is The Center for American Progress (among other of its endeavours is the ThinkProgress). As you know, Podesta co-chairs President-elect Obama's transition team, and, of course, he was chief of staff under Clinton.
Why does Gorelick's name keep popping up? probably because she knows where the Janet Reno's justice department skeletons are buried. Just my guess.
Jamie Gorelick?
The rains with the flue are coming on to ruin Obama’s honeymoon early.
Please God let it be true ;)
Jamie G as AG, John "effen" Kerry as Sec State. Wow--the mind boggles at the possibilities of what an Obama Cabinet will look it. This is going to be a fun four years.
She worked at Fannie Mae until 2003..
She didn't just "work" at Fannie. She was Vice Chair. The so what? The fact that the company was cooking the books under her watch doesn't bother you in the least?
She is directly responsible for the current financial crisis. ALL board members of ANY board are directly responsible for the actions taken by their companies.
The fraud perpetrated by companies like Fannie, Enron etc caused the passage of Sarbanes Oxley which was tailor made for hacks like Gorelick.
"Boards of Directors, specifically Audit Committees, are charged with establishing oversight mechanisms for financial reporting in U.S. corporations on the behalf of investors. These scandals identified Board members who either did not exercise their responsibilities or did not have the expertise to understand the complexities of the businesses. In many cases, Audit Committee members were not truly independent of management."
You really don't have a clue, do you?
"The NYT has some basis for forefronting her name. Perhaps the transition team is trying to test the waters. In which case, I would like them to find out that the waters are fully aboil."
Ann, can you explain just why it was that this wasn't enough reason to vote against Obama? ("This" meaning that either O would actually consider Gorelick a viable AG canditate, or that he hangs out with/hires people who do?)
Sal,
Larry Summers, sure, I pretty much agree with your POV. But Emmanuel? One of the main guys who put the "personal" into "the politics of personal destruction"? What hopeful thing could his consideration possibly be a sign of?
There's nothing wrong with lobbing rotten tomatoes at floated names. Better--or at least more effective, to the degree that it effective, anyway--to do that beforehand than after the fact.
Please explain how Fannie and Freddie are a large part of the current crisis. And then explain how Jamie Gorelick contributed to that.
I'm really interested in hearing your nonsensical babble.
Fannie and Freddie were a quasi-governmental agency, doing exactly what they were chartered to do - securitize mortgages. They got burned when the housing marked collapsed as did almost every other financial institution that dealt with mortgages. Yes, they had some accounting irregularities in 2004, but that had nothing to do with the current financial crisis.
And 99% of the commenters on this thread didn't vote for Obama.
Work on your math skills.
And one can do that while still keeping in mind the phenomenon to which big mike aptly points.
They put stickies on the face of Mohammed Atta
I read that as They put pot stickers on the face of Mohammed Atta. Nonsense!
(Why, yes, I did have chinese food for dinner last night, why do you ask?)
reader, isn't that's how Simon's Hero was appointed!
LOL, MadisonMan. And now I'm hungry! Thanks. :)
She is directly responsible for the current financial crisis. ALL board members of ANY board are directly responsible for the actions taken by their companies. ?
19 McCain fundraisers & advisers lobbied for Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac. Rick Davis was McCain's campaign manager who was paid 5 million dollars over 5 years by an advocacy group set up by Fannie Mae. He was being paid $15,000 month up until Sept for doing absolutely nothing aside being there for access to McCain. You are so full of shit on a consistent basis I have wonder where you find your "news".
I've seen ZERO evidence that she was involved in the scandal. If you have any, please provide it.
This is a stupid thread anyway - she's trading at 5% in intrade.
Dtl,
I'm sure others here can provide more detail, but here goes: Fannie and Freddie over time vastly expanded the scope of their mortgage underwriting operations and stoutly resisted any attempts to rein in their activities (by imposing some sort of reasonable capital requirements). They were far from passive in all this. And the top execs (hacks like Gorelick) made big $ along the way. Do you read the papers?
I'm not terribly surprised. Obama, when faced with his first choice for an appointment, picked Joe Biden as his running mate.
When it comes down to it, hope and change are just words to bring back in the tired and same.
They put pot stickers on the face of Mohammed Atta.
Enhanced interrogation technique #358: "Talk, and we'll let you eat these."
DTL: Let's cut to the chase. You are unaware of the investigations into Fannie Mae and its governance? You don't think they matter? Putting aside our current financial crisis and various theories as to its cause, you don't think there were problems with Fannie Mae? The SEC and OFHEO charges mean nothing? There are no grounds to question the judgment of those who were on the board at relevant time periods? You wouldn't want to take such things in consideration in questioning someone's fitness as AG? (And, of course, that's not Gorelick's only problem... .)
Re filibustering Presidential cabinet nominees: Unless the nominee fails the Edwin Edwards test (live boy or dead girl) then the President should have whom he wants on his cabinet. This position, however, in no way applies to judicial nominees where a separate branch of government is involved.
I'm really interested in hearing your nonsensical babble.
You are too stupid for me to waste pixels on trying to explain the intricacies of derivatives trading, the role of the Democrats in Congress and the legal responsibilities of a Board of Directors.
Google it.
And 99% of the commenters on this thread didn't vote for Obama.
Work on your math skills.
Probably just a question of semantics. Maybe those who voted for Obama and comment here are considered dissenters whereas those who did not vote for Obama are commenters. So by that logic, 100% against Obama - one for Obama (Althouse) divided by said total = 99% +- 2%.
MJsharon,
Wrong. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have never underwritten ONE single mortgage. They securitize mortgages, so they act in the secondary market. That's also their charter as originally mandated by the government. That's a big difference.
They guarantee half of the mortgages in this country. Do you really think there is anyway they could have NOT been involved in this crisis?
DTL said: "You are unpatriotic enemies of the state"
Isn't that a bad line in movies set in the USSR or Nazi Germany?
reader iam - I think individuals hold blame, not corporations. Despite my hatred of Bush, you will never hear me going on about how everyone at Enron was unethical and guilty. They weren't. Only a couple of people at Enron were - and they created a bad name for everyone else. The same is true at Lehman. Is there any evidence that anyone at Fannie and Freddie even broke the law, or was it just incompetence (as I suspect)? But it's a quasi-governmental entity. We shouldn't be surprised that there is incompetence there.
Do I blame Gorelick for that incompetence? Well - show me some evidence. I'm willing to listen. She's a lawyer, not an accountant, so its hard for her to have oversight in that matter. Of course, I think she never should have been appointed to that role in the first place, but I can't blame her for taking it. Lots of people accept jobs they are unqualified for. For example - Palin.
I'm perfectly aware that elections have consequences and that administrations get to pick whom they like for various positions. Opponents suck it up, or whatever. However, I'm also of the opinion that the AG is a little different from other positions, and so--IMHO--that one is more worth fighting over. We all of us have more stake in that one, and rightly so.
Dtl,
You have, predictably, ignored the essentials of my comment and focussed on trivialities. To answer your last question - yes - by acceding to reasonable limits on their activities, as suggested by some (such as McCain) from time to time.
My 99% comment was a joke. Please take a chill pill.
What hopeful thing could his consideration possibly be a sign of?
a 2010 check and balance I hope.
DTL, you're ignoring people's perceptions of Fannie and Freddie as an enabler.
Ah, DTL, you are such a tease.
I support whatever Obama does and whomever he picks.
The uber-corrupt dimwit boy king(dictator) got whatever he wanted(without one scintilla of punishment), so will Baracky. Tought shit. LOL. I LOVE how it's going so far.
Keep the beautiful, chic photos of the future first couple coming. Love 'em. Why can't we white people generate urbane sophisticates like this? Those going to dinner pictures were amazing, fuck!
I love their policies and their imagery.
Yahoo!
I'd comment on Professor Althouse's superbly inconsistent P.O.V.(just reading the weekend stuff alone is worthy of hours of posts), but she's got a business to run. This is what happens when you cultivate commenters that are so far right as to be virtual dead-enders. I've learned innumerable lessons from watching this scene play out over the last 8-9 months.
In the period of time I have been at this site I've never seen one criticizm of Bush from the top, once the Professor made a comment about doing something competently or something. but that's it. We lefties have been given several gifts this past year from republicans and pseudo-republicans, the gifts will obviously keep coming. The righties and their water-carriers do not have the propensity for introspection and therefore can't self-correct. I think we may get an 8 year run here kids.
I'm pushing Palin/Romney or Romney/Palin for 2012. They will crash and burn with either of them anywhere near the ticket. Do it, I dare you.
integrity, no matter how much you snuffle and whimper, Michelle is not going to let you suck Barack's cock.
DBQ,
Intricacies?
Are you going to solve differential equations for us?
Let's start with the basics:
"The Black–Scholes PDE
As per the model assumptions above, we assume that the underlying (typically the stock) follows a geometric Brownian motion. That is,
dS_t = \mu S_t\,dt + \sigma S_t\,dW_t \,
where Wt is Brownian.
Now let V be some sort of option on S—mathematically V is a function of S and t. V(S, t) is the value of the option at time t if the price of the underlying stock at time t is S. The value of the option at the time that the option matures is known. To determine its value at an earlier time we need to know how the value evolves as we go backward in time. By Itō's lemma for two variables we have
dV = \left(\mu S \frac{\partial V}{\partial S} + \frac{\partial V}{\partial t}+ \frac{1}{2}\sigma^2 S^2\frac{\partial^2 V}{\partial S^2}\right)dt + \sigma S \frac{\partial V}{\partial S}\,dW.
Now consider a trading strategy under which one holds one option and continuously trades in the stock in order to hold - \frac{\partial V}{\partial S} shares. At time t, the value of these holdings will be
\Pi = V - S\frac{\partial V}{\partial S}.
The composition of this portfolio, called the delta-hedge portfolio, will vary from time-step to time-step. Let R denote the accumulated profit or loss from following this strategy. Then over the time period [t, t + dt], the instantaneous profit or loss is
dR = dV - \frac{\partial V}{\partial S}\,dS.
By substituting in the equations above we get
dR = \left(\frac{\partial V}{\partial t} + \frac{1}{2}\sigma^2 S^2\frac{\partial^2 V}{\partial S^2}\right)dt.
This equation contains no dW term. That is, it is entirely riskless (delta neutral). Thus, given that there is no arbitrage, the rate of return on this portfolio must be equal to the rate of return on any other riskless instrument. Now assuming the risk-free rate of return is r we must have over the time period [t, t + dt]
r\Pi\,dt = dR = \left(\frac{\partial V}{\partial t} + \frac{1}{2}\sigma^2 S^2\frac{\partial^2 V}{\partial S^2}\right)dt.
If we now substitute in for Π and divide through by dt we obtain the Black–Scholes PDE:
\frac{\partial V}{\partial t} + \frac{1}{2}\sigma^2 S^2\frac{\partial^2 V}{\partial S^2} + rS\frac{\partial V}{\partial S} - rV = 0.
This is the law of evolution of the value of the option. With the assumptions of the Black–Scholes model, this partial differential equation holds whenever V is twice differentiable with respect to S and once with respect to t."
And, then you can teach us the tricky stuff.
I support whatever Obama does and whomever he picks.
I can honestly say I've never thought or felt that way about any president or any politician, ever.
Creepy.
"This is what happens when you cultivate commenters that are so far right as to be virtual dead-enders."
LOL! Funny stuff!
MadisonMan - the Scalia nomination came down to a choice between two luminaries, both doing penance in administrative law hell - the D.C. Circuit - at the time: Our Hero, and Robert Bork. As much as I'd like to tell you that they looked at both and concluded that Scalia was better, the record seems to establish that Scalia was simply younger and in better health, and therefore thought likely to serve longer.
Hey let Barack be Barack. He is entitled to be surrounded by people who think and act like he would. If he can't get Ms. Gorelick through I hope he nominates Lynn Stewart or Ron Kuby so he can have an attorney general who reflects his world view.
"And, then you can teach us the tricky stuff."
You mean like copying and pasting things from Wikipedia?
DTL And 99% of the commenters on this thread didn't vote for Obama.
MM Work on your math skills.
I think he'd be better served improving logic and interpersonal skills first.
Gorelick is Zoooe Baaaird for Obama ;)
Hindsight is easy guys.
Remember - McCain was saying that the fundamentals of the economy were sound only two months ago - and every Republican believed it. Yet now you're blaming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for not anticipating the subprime collapse several years back.
Hmm - very few economists predicted that. But Krugman was one of them.
I didn't predict it. Although I was aware that we had a huge problem since August 2007 (as was most of Wall Street), when the credit crisis started.
And I never gave a crap that McCain's campaign manager had connects to Freddie Mae. So what.
I sure hope MM and Big Mike are right and that there's nothing to this. Atta, Fannie; the choice would be appalling.
Let Barack be Barack. You know as a way to mend fences with women and to firmly demonstrate civilian control over the military he should nominate Cindy Sheehan to be his Secretary of Defense.
multiple comments below:
1. Ann missed the biggest giggle line from the NYT in this:
Ms. Gorelick would also bring corporate experience to an Obama administration at a time of financial crisis.
2. Roger J said: Roger J. said...
Re filibustering Presidential cabinet nominees: Unless the nominee fails the Edwin Edwards test (live boy or dead girl) then the President should have whom he wants on his cabinet.
While I agree in general, I'd draw the line where past bad behavior that is directly germane to the office being appointed. Having said that, (and I know she's just acting for a client) some of Ms Gorelick's claims on behalf of Duke would appear to indicate that she fails to understand the fundemental rights of accused and the rights to privacy accorded all Americans.
3. I would note that Rahm Emmanuel was also a Fannie Director
4. I heard a rumor that Sarbanes Oxley doesn;t apply to the GSE's. Apparently the Dem's put an exemption in that doesn't require that the GSEs do: Sarbanes-Oxley Act on the GSEs, including certification of financial statements, codes of ethics, loan prohibitions, and independent audit committees.
Simon, I now see that my memory is failing me, and that Kennedy, not Scalia, was the post-Ginsburg nominee.
Another great theory shot to pieces by actual data!
Why can't we white people generate urbane sophisticates like this?
Comment of the year.
Gorelick's people are just pushing to get her the opportunity to prosecute Osama Bin Laden in US court for tortuous conduct
"hindsight is easy...!" truer words were never spoken; e.g., the fabled august 2001 PDB which clearly foretold precisely the time and place of the 9/11 attacks!
If those nasty Republicans block Ms. Gorelick from Attorney General perhaps she can get to be in charge of Homeland Security.
She can make sure that all those freedom fighters get out of Guantánamo Bay and that all terrorists all over the world have the same rights and privileges as American citizens. It is most important that everyone else in the world look favorably on America and that whole terror thing was really overblown anyway.
palladian,
1) They don't hand out ChemE degrees w/o being able to solve differential equations. Which has been helpful since I've gone through about a dozen text books from top graduate B school programs in the states. I know that my understanding of the "intricacies" of these instruments has helped me comprehend the interrelatedness, limits, and potential risks of these products.
2) I'm not claiming ownership of the formula. This seems to be a surprise to you. Which means that I've narrowed my identity, by eliminating two Nobel prize winners. [One side benefit, is that you now know I'm not partially responsible for LTCM.]
Are we going to have preface every remark from now on which touches on President Obama or his activities or associates by stating that we voted for him (if we did) or not?
What if we lie?
What if we voted for Obama and still see Jamie Gorelick as a dreadful pick for anything? Is this disloyal?
Palladian:
""And, then you can teach us the tricky stuff."
You mean like copying and pasting things from Wikipedia?"
Great catch!! It should also be added that this bit of intimidating gibberish pushed LTCM and several other hedge funds into insolvency with the public paying to clean up the wreck.
Matt Eckert said...
"Hey let Barack be Barack. He is entitled to be surrounded by people who think and act like he would."
That's right. "The Attorney General is the hand of the President in taking care that the laws of the United States in legal proceedings, and in the prosecution of offenses, be faithfully executed," United States v. Cox, 342 F.2d 167, 171 (5th Cir. 1965) (en banc). "Executive branch actors are intermediaries for the executive power, and surrogates for the President in whom that power is vested by the Constitution."
Of all the lawyers, in all the towns, in all the world, Gorelick walks into Obamas.
It should also be added that this bit of intimidating gibberish pushed LTCM and several other hedge funds into insolvency with the public paying to clean up the wreck
Unfortunately, I actually had to learn to calculate this and other equations to pass the CFP exam.
So DTL can cut and paste to his widdle heart's content. It means nothing since he has no understanding.
That's right. "The Attorney General is the hand of the President in taking care that the laws of the United States in legal proceedings, and in the prosecution of offenses, be faithfully executed,"
Why do I fear Simon’s Constitutional instincts have never been this sharp ;)
Lem said...
Of all the lawyers, in all the towns, in all the world, Gorelick walks into Obamas.
Does the AG have to be a lawyer? I mean the Surgeon General doesn't have to be a Surgeon or a General?
Having said that, it could be worse: Lynne Stewart or Bernadine Dohrn come to mind :)
MadisonMan said...
"Simon, I now see that my memory is failing me, and that Kennedy, not Scalia, was the post-Ginsburg nominee."
According to Greenburg (corroborated by Toobin, IIRC), Kennedy was picked out of sheer exhaustion. The White House was out of steam after Bork was rejected and Ginsburg withdrew, and took the path of least resistance. Kennedy seemed confirmable, so they went with him despite vigorous protests from several at DoJ who knew exactly what kind of Justice AMK would be. As a result, we've had to sit through two decades of mushy, foggy prose (and even mushier, foggier thinking) polluting the U.S. Reports. There must surely be liberal lawyers who, from time to time, faced with the task of deciphering one of Kennedy's orotund little missives, have privately lamented that in some ways, it would have been better to have Ginsburg - or even Bork - on the court after all.
It is a shame that Johnnie Cochran
has passed away. Then we would not have to worry about who the President Elect would pick as his first Supreme Court nominee.
It's so unreasonable to prefer an AG with a bit of independence and a little less baggage in at least three areas. Fine, whatever.
This is not fair.
Lani Guinier was ahead of the line, she's female and black.
a twofer.
She can make sure that all those freedom fighters get out of Guantánamo Bay and that all terrorists all over the world have the same rights and privileges as American citizens.
Already under way
Did they trow Anita Hill under the bus allready?
Having said that, it could be worse: Lynne Stewart or Bernadine Dohrn come to mind :)
Not so loud. Sheesh...
;-)
Talk about yer obvious payoff of political debt.
And don't forget Franklin Delano Raines.
Maybe Tony Rezko will be pardoned and promoted to HUD Director.
Fannie Mae Compensation 1998-2003 per WSJ editorial on 6/11/2008:
Franklin Raines $90,128,761
Timothy Howard $30,155,029
Jaime Gorelick $ 26,466,834
Jim Johnson $ 21,000,000
And Downtown Lad responds "nothing to see here".
I would be much more interested to see how many sitting US Atty's Obama fires on taking office; and esp if he keeps Fitzgerald on in chicago.
They have to be floating this so that anyone later will seem OK.
1jpb -- your level of condescension is particularly off-putting, given that you're presenting partial differential equations, cookbook math, as if it's the pinnacle of human knowledge.
I'm no world-class mathematician, but I taught a course in partial differential equations to undergraduates. Get over yourself, dude. Chemical Engineering -- the last resort for those who can't make it through Electrical.
Since the Democrats are in all of the attorney generals will be fired and that will be just great.
You see anything that the Republicans did that was a crime and a sin will be a-ok now. If you do not believe me, just wait to read about it in the New York Times.
Roger J. said...
I would be much more interested to see how many sitting US Atty's Obama fires on taking office; and esp if he keeps Fitzgerald on in chicago.
I predict he pulls a Clinton and fires every one.
And the press without a wimper will cite the fact that Clinto did it, so it's normal practice, but the way that Bush waited on only fired some was clearly "partisan" and illegal.
Actually I take that back, Jimmy Carter will get the HUD post.
Chemical Engineering -- the last resort for those who can't make it through Electrical.
No, that would be Industrial Engineering.
Hope and change and hope and...
And the press without a wimper will cite the fact that Clinto did it, so it's normal practice, but the way that Bush waited on only fired some was clearly "partisan" and illegal.
Drill Sgt, you know very well you are distorting history. Of course Bush fired them all (I think technically they all offered their resignations) at the start of his term. SOP. Where Bush went wrong, and how that lackey Gonzales found himself out of a job, was by having people fired who didn't pursue with enough aggression Democrats -- that is, by turning the USA Atty office into a branch of the Republican Party. Now, I don't know if Bush had anything at all to do with the Gonzales imbroglio -- my gut says probably not. But he did hire his good friend to do all the shady shenanigans. This lousy mindset is, IMO, one reason the Republicans are soon to be on the outside looking in. No one likes an obviously and demonstrably corrupt party.
Bring back Warren Christopher!
He's still alive! I checked Wikipedia!
"No one likes an obviously and demonstrably corrupt party."
Thank God we have someone from the heart of the Chicago Daley Machine to stop that in its tracks.
DBQ,
DBQ why would you encourage this "gibberish" ignorance if you are acknowledging that differential equations are important?
Great catch!! It should also be added that this bit of intimidating gibberish pushed LTCM and several other hedge funds into insolvency with the public paying to clean up the wreck.
I hope this isn't a sign of the right wing's new attack on intellect. Do you folks really think that you don't need differential equations? Is this related to creationism, i.e. since there are no deferential equations in the Bible, we must not use them? [I attend an Assemblies of God church, so please save the claims that I'm anti-God.]
I'll put it in terms of the gun argument so you can understand: Differential equations don't destroy institutions, people destroy institutions.
Pastafarian,
I think I can hold my own regarding differential equations. For "fun" I took graduate level courses in Physics (among other programs that were totally unrelated to my degree.) While in these classes I was able to use computer systems to churn for days in order to determine molecular level structures based on quantum mechanic level energy formulas that I worked out. [And, BTW, the calculated structures for known molecules perfectly matched the known structures, which confirmed the the stability of the designed structures that were based on my quantum mechanics formulas.]
I'll admit that I didn't find this especially taxing, but the professors were blow-away (and many of the students for that program were unhappy because I was influencing the grading curve) so I must have been doing something notable, especially as an "outsider."
P.S.
I'm sure that the relative difficulty of E programs varies from school to school. I chose ChemE precisely because it was the most difficult E program at my school. It also had (has?) a multi-year run at being the highest paid non-professional degree straight out of school. Of course, I quickly realized that owning your own business, and then being an executive in corporate America are more profitable, so I've been an apostate ChemE for a long time.
"new attack on intellect."
No, it's a pretty old style attack on those who try to sound important by listing their self-impressive skills.
Ego assertion brings ego deflation.
I don't think Althouse is hiring, so really there's no need to offer your resume here. And it's kind of sad to do so merely to try to get folks to be impressed.
Surely, there are better places than blog comment sections to find identity confirmation.
I'm sure someone is out there who will more personally affirm the fact that you're a real person, no matter what your inner doubts might suggest.
paddy O.
Yes, I'll check in with my crack dealer. Always a good listener.
Roger J. wrote: John "effen" Kerry as Sec State. Wow--the mind boggles at the possibilities of what an Obama Cabinet will look it.
Woodrow Wilson made William Jennings Bryan Secretary of State. Wilson owed Bryan for his convention support; Wilson also liked to be the smartest guy in the room.
The latter doesn't seem to be one of Obama's flaws. But he is now now facing the onslaught of Democratic job seekers and must minimize the influx of stupidity into his cabinet.
Thus Rahm Emanuel. Really a great pick for Obama. Before he could deal with the pack of prima donnas at his door, he needed his own junkyard dog.
Empty suit, man-child, squirrel, all are apt.
But my personal favorite is "Nancy Pelosi's personal hand puppet".
I hope this isn't a sign of the right wing's new attack on intellect. Do you folks really think that you don't need differential equations?
When you cut-and-pasted the differential equation stuff, I thought you were just a tool. But now you've made it obvious that you are an idiot. To be perfectly clear: Althouse's comment section does not now, and will likely never, need differential equations.
Whether or not your particular occupation requires the use of differential equations is immaterial to the discussion at hand. (For the record, I took my required year of calculus at MIT and then never looked back. The physics, econ and finance courses I took back then didn't get into any real heavy lifting.)
Speaking of resume.
Gorelick’s bio runs like a CSI who’s who.
Gorelick always ends up near a crime scene ;)
These stories are planted by administration insiders as trial balloons, to see how people will react. If the reaction isn't too terribly negative, then they'll officially announce something.
shorter ljpb: I am really smart.
Really, I am!
See? See?
You all should stop arguing with 1jpb. He is obviously super duper smart.
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Writing of odd ideas for appointments or advisers, what's the deal with Daley's brother being on the economic transition team? No matter how great the guy is, it seems like Obama wouldn't want the stink of infamous Chicago politics following him to the White House.
It's interesting that Obama's team would float the name of someone hostile to civil rights for AG. How is she hostile to civil rights? She was the one flacking the "Clipper Chip" to Congress - it would have given the government keys to all crypotgraphy performed by individuals and corporations in the US. None of your private transactions on the InterTubes would have been secure from government snooping. None.
1jpb wrote: And, BTW, the calculated structures for known molecules perfectly matched the known structures, which confirmed the the stability of the designed structures that were based on my quantum mechanics formulas.
I don't know how you got so far off topic, but nobody gives a shit whether calculated structures match known structures-that's just benchmarking. The sole utility of calculating chemical structures is predicting unknown chemical structures and transition states. And as you well know, that's a different story.
My only hope in his cabinet is that they are hot.
Jamie is kind of hot so I approve.
More hot cabinet members please.
thank you.
My morning loaf really smelled today.
No matter how great the guy is, it seems like Obama wouldn't want the stink of infamous Chicago politics following him to the White House.
Considering he represented the South Side of Chicago as a state rep, I think that's going to be hard to do.
I'm totally in favor of her as AG.
It will bring change much faster. Well that is my hope any way.
She has brought disaster every place she worked. I'm hoping she will do her magic on the Obama administration.
It is all good.
Rahm is hot. I want a hot Obama staff.
I want lots of pecs and tits and asses and that are hot.
And just for the record, all you guys talking differential equations and all this pointy head math stuff; you're obviously overcompensating for a lack of...something.
I'll just leave it at that.
If we have to look at these people over the next 4 years they need to be hot.
Considering he represented the South Side of Chicago as a state rep, I think that's going to be hard to do.
Agreed. That's why I would think he wouldn't bring anyone with him. Especially not Daley's brother!
"Why haven't liberals attacked her?"
Because the only sin liberals recognize among fellow believers is heresy.
Jamie Gorelick is hot?? I think Titus needs to get an eye exam.
He thinks shes a guy.
Shes got a Janet Reno thing going on.
A lot of these people who've been tapped or whose names have been floated seem like payback picks. I think that's a waste. Obama doesn't owe the Democratic establishment anything. Plus, he's going to be the President of the United States; he doesn't need these has-beens and hangers-on. He's all the rage and the media loves him. I don't know why he bothers with these people.
A lot of these people who've been tapped...
Freeman, please be careful with your choice of words. Being tapped may have a different connotation among those Chicago machine politicians.
Just sayin.
Recycling old, discredited right wing falsehoods I see. Like the "Gorelick wall."
I could marshall facts and show how it's a pack of lies, but no mountain of facts would have any effect on the host or her right wing base. They will repeat the same falsehoods ad naseum.
Oh, well. This crowd is irrelevant and the action has moved on. Me, too.
"She has brought disaster every place she worked. I'm hoping she will do her magic on the Obama administration"
Correct, in theory. But Gorelick as AG can wreak way too much havoc in the meantime. Let's hope O will put his lefties in highly visible, but relatively harmless offices instead, like Bill Ayers as Secretary of Education.
Being tapped may have a different connotation among those Chicago machine politicians.
Heh. I guess we'd really be talking payback picks in that case.
Alpha--regretably your promise to move on is in the same vein as the promises of Obama. Not to be taken seriously.
Obama doesn't owe the Democratic establishment anything. Plus, he's going to be the President of the United States; he doesn't need these has-beens and hangers-on. He's all the rage and the media loves him. I don't know why he bothers with these people?
Because the close Obama confidants could not pass security clearance, so hes stuck with the lifers and other peoples confidants.
"Red Will" Danaher: Gorelick? Jamie Gorelick, father?
Father Peter Lonergan, Narrator: Well, I can't say it's true, and I won't say it's not, but there's been talk.
(The Quiet Man, 1952)
Once I figured out how many beers were in a twelve pack, I pretty much gave up on dV = \left(\mu S \frac{\partial V}{\partial S} + \frac{\partial V}{\partial t}+ \frac{1}{2}\sigma^2 S^2\frac{\partial^2 V}{\partial S^2}\right)dt + \sigma S \frac{\partial V}{\partial S}\,dW.
I could marshall facts and show how it's a pack of lies, but no mountain of facts would have any effect on the host or her right wing base. They will repeat the same falsehoods ad naseum.
Translation: I have no way of demonstrating the crap I just threw on the wall.
Obama should be conserving his political capital to back up his Surgeon General nominee, Typhoid Mary. I'm pretty sure to be right about this, because I know what a Riemann manifold is.
Translation: I have no way of demonstrating the crap I just threw on the wall.
The wall of opposition to Mrs Gorelick continues...
...not even a week in and I'm allready having Obasams ;)
chickenlittle,
Maybe I'm using "designed" where you're using "unknown." I used the testing to demonstrated that my modeling worked. Of course, this was only the first step but it justified applying my model to "unknown" structures.
I should clarify that I was using quantum mechanics to calculate precise three dimensional molecular level structures--not the simplistic stick and orb three dimensional models that folks usually think of when they picture molecular structures.
And, beyond simply determining the most energetically stable precise three dimensional molecules, I was able to test energy induced fluctuations in these three dimensional structures. And, my math for energy changes of the unknown structures was confirmed by testing with known structures, e.g. I was able to use quantum mechanics to determine the relationship between photon energy and the two precise three dimensional structures and energy levels of retinal.
That's cool, in a very geeky way.
With enough computer power it's possible to determine all molecular level characteristics and changes using quantum mechanics.
Nice to see conservatives start caring again about who gets appointed to key positions instead of being content with horse judges. That's change we can believe in my friends.
With enough computer power it's possible to determine all molecular level characteristics
Up until now, we've been hitting a wall ;)
With enough computer power it's possible to determine all molecular level characteristics and changes using quantum mechanics.
Yeah well with a big enough lever I can move the world.
Although it did move for Mrs. Hoosier last night but that's another story.
With enough computer power it's possible to determine all molecular level characteristics and changes using quantum mechanics
Then of course we have the Infinite Monkey Theorem, which actually kind of correlates to the comments from certain posters ...Michael, Infinity, DTL, Doyle :-D
My #1 issue Gorelick has to do with what is in my opinion a less than finely tuned ability to spot a conflict of interest especially when it involves herself.
This is problematic in general, but with regard to the AG and other higher level law-enforcement positions, it is a big issue--again, for me, and in my opinion.
And garage mahal, I can assure you that I had problems with Bush's AG's as well, especially Gonzales.
Can you wrap your mind around the idea that this could be precisely why I'm reacting early to this float?
"Death threats!" is the new black.
To be cool, and excused from all your failings, you will wear your alleged death threats proudly.
Then of course we have the Infinite Monkey Theorem, which actually kind of correlates to the comments from certain posters ...Michael, Infinity, DTL, Doyle :-D
Damn dirty apes...
Gorelick didn't create the "wall" - it was built during the Carter Administration. What she did was make it higher and thicker, for no good reason but to appease her own notions of fair play for terrorists. In that she is a perfect fit for the Obama (PBUH)Administration. Maybe Bill Ayers can be her special advisor on terrorism!
William Raines for SecTreas!
And garage mahal, I can assure you that I had problems with Bush's AG's as well, especially Gonzales.
Can you wrap your mind around the idea that this could be precisely why I'm reacting early to this float?
Sure, of course.
I'm pretty sure any Jewish anxieties about Barack Hussein Obama have been eliminated with the pick of Rahm Israel Emanuel as chief of staff and the talk of two establishment Jewish liberals Larry Summers as possible Treasury secretary and Jamie Gorelick as AG.
I don't think Gorelick is Jewish. She is a Clintonista with serious baggage and about the last sort Obama would want back at Justice, reporting to Bill and Hillary after damaging appointment hearings smearing President Obama with embracing the archtect of terrorist-friendly rules and Fannie Mae lack of rules.
(Aside from the old palsied bulldyke herself).
I expect that Obama will have half his "power player" appointments be Jews, roughly what Clinton had, with less white male Gentiles, their diminished nomber taken up by more women and blacks.
That Obama is going to think of the rich and powerful Jews that mentored his career since Harvard, and gave him and his wife good jobs since law schools is no surprise. He also has obligations to the Daley machine and certain black apparachniks that mentored him.
All that said, Rahm Emmanual is no payback, or affirmative action for Jews, pick. He is an ideal pick.
"Oh, well. This crowd is irrelevant and the action has moved on. Me, too."
Oh please God let it be true this time.
Crack dealers, like prostitutes and blog commenters, only act like they're listening so that they can get on with their own business.
I suggest a mirror and digital recorder to really talk to someone with the insight and discernment to really get what's being said, and be suitably impressed.
Cedarford, I hope that you someday write a comment describing the genesis of your fixation on Jews.
DTL,
"My 99% comment was a joke."
Ah, a humor joke, eh? What about your "unpatriotic enemies of the state" remark? Was that a joke, too, or do I still need to ask you when the shooting begins?
Freeman,
I'm going to have to disagree with you, just this once, and say I hope C4 never delivers that particular load of rubbish, or at least not to this esteemed forum.
I hope C4 never delivers that particular load of rubbish, or at least not to this esteemed forum.
I see your point. But aren't you curious as to how someone becomes so fixated on something random, like Jewish people, and sees nearly everything in the world through what he perceives to be its connections to that random thing? I am.
As the saying goes - "be careful what you wish for, you just might get it".
Lots of folks wanted 'change' - but there's a whole lot of ways to 'change' things politically - and most of them aren't what anyone would consider good.
But you wished for 'change'.
And now - you've got it. Might as well enjoy it - and remember the results NEXT time the Election Genie comes around and you tell him you want 'change'.
You see anything that the Republicans did that was a crime and a sin will be a-ok now.
Clinton fired, what, 92? -- not a peep. Bush & Co. fired, like 8 and it was a scandal. Obama will turn around and do the same thing as Clinton and he'll skate.
FH:
Cedarford, I hope that you someday write a comment describing the genesis of your fixation on Jews.
I agree. I have asked once or twice and have never received an answer.
Nice to see conservatives start caring again about who gets appointed to key positions instead of being content with horse judges. That's change we can believe in my friends.
garage,
you should be as wary of Obama as the rest of us. He did exactly the same thing to Hillary as he did to McCain and, especially, Palin: he used the political equivalent of a hatchet on them, all while claiming to be engaging in a "new kind of politics."
Now he's got Rahm Emanuel and, possibly, Gorelick as close advisors. New politics, indeed.
aren't you curious as to how someone becomes so fixated on something random, like Jewish people
I would be if the person in question was otherwise interesting or insightful, and just had the one weird blind spot. But in Cedarford's case that's be a no.
It's not hard to see how one could become fixated on Jews: They are influential on society disproportionate to their numbers.
Why is an interesting question. I tend to think it's due to a (relatively) stable and cohesive society that emphasizes scholarship and (relatively) free thought.
Others figure it's more about drinking the blood of Christian babies and pacts with Baphomet.
The latter group tend to attribute their power to more sinister forces, whether cabal or Kaballah.
Very interesting to see how differential equations have been raised here in the context of understanding the financial meltdown. I built models using this equation to evaluate CMOs for Bloomberg back in the 90's, and I eventually couldn't stand the abuse of mathematics anymore. (Don't get me started on the even more elaborate and ridiculous epicycles such as "GARCH".) Diff EQs are great for physics, but fictitious when applied to markets, and overreliance on pseudo-physical mathematical models is what allowed a bunch of people with very high IQs but no common sense to almost destroy the financial industry.
My next four years are looking better all the time - next, a promise for Larry Summers at Treasury: a man MOST of Big O's voters already hate.
Wait, Obama is thinking about nominating a Fanny/Freddie crony and a fellow liberal who would likely gut the War on Terror and ignore the lessons of 9/11??!?!
That's unpossible!
Gorelick is now involved in representing Duke University in a lawsuit file in the rape-fraud case. She is as slimy as they get. If Obama wants a war with Republicans he couldn't find a better trigger than Gorelick.
Ohh Anne,
I can't say "you poor girl" because you are too sharp for such patronizing sympathy...
And...yet...WTF could possibly be flirting with surprising you here?
I read and admire so much your blog that I must ask myself "WTF could possibly be flirting with surprising you here?" of myself.
Now that I am questioning your judgment I must question my own to be fair.
Hope. Change. Chicago. Politics.
Bullshit. Sadness.
Self-reproval.
I feel for us both. (what's a suitable emoticon to end on?)
"A better question: Why haven't liberals attacked her?"
Fear.
Just a 4-letter word, like Hope. You're going to start finding them interchangeable, as the Chicago Gang takes hold of power.
"There is nothing in that article that says Obama is actually considering this pick. So when it says: Being considered for I have to ask By whom?"
Irrelevant. When a spectacularly bad choice like this is being bandied about, people of good conscience are obliged to speak out. After the fact (when we Know For Certain) is a bit late for debate.
Obama needs to know that the people who elected him for his ideals are now going to hold him to account. Unless, of course, that's really not why they elected him, and they aren't.
in which she allegedly created an intelligence “wall”
"Allegedly"?--didn't the memo Ashcroft waved have her name on it?
The reaction of the other commissioners to her obvious conflict of interest (and bad policy) should have deflated the commission's credibility with the public. Why didn't it?
I'm still giving Obama the benefit of the doubt. I did not vote for him, and won't vote for him in 4 years, but as of Jan 20 he is my President.
OTOH, if he actually does nominate Gorelick, I'll be taking what little money I have left out of the stock market and buying shotguns and canned food.
Shy of announcing re-education camps for Republicans, I can't think of anything he could do worse.
Downtownlad said:
"Please explain how Fannie and Freddie are a large part of the current crisis. And then explain how Jamie Gorelick contributed to that. I'm really interested in hearing your nonsensical babble."
DTL, you are an abject idiot. Jamie Gorelick was an executive officer at Fannie Mae from 1997 through 2003. She was personally responsible for Fannie Mae increasing the amount of sub-prime CRA mortgages that it acquired. Here is what this miscreant said in a press release published by BusinessWire in 2001:
""Our approach to our lenders is `CRA Your Way'," Gorelick said. "Fannie Mae will buy CRA loans from lenders' portfolios; we'll package them into securities; we'll purchase CRA mortgages at the point of origination; and we'll create customized CRA-targeted securities. This expanded approach has improved liquidity in the secondary market for CRA product, and has helped our lenders leverage even more CRA lending. Lenders now have the flexibility to use their own, customized loan products," Gorelick said. [http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2001_May_7/ai_74223918]
Does this answer your question moron? She was promoting the CRA loans and increasing the number of these loans. The New York Times reported on this idiotic policy in 1999 and said, "In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980's." [http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&scp=1&sq=september%201999%20fannie%20mae&st=cse].
According to Peter Wallison, by 2008, Fannie and Freddie held or had securitized over 1 Trillion dollars of sub-prime loans which constitutes one third of the entire sub-prime market. Those sub-prime mortgages were acquired pursuant to the idiotic policies of Gorelick, Raines and the Clinton Administration. This whole mess shows Gorelick is incompetent. But then again we already knew she was an idiot based on her role in hindering our intelligence agencies from sharing information about terrorists with the Justice Dept. All of that is separate from her role in cooking Fannie's books so that she could profit to the tune of 26 million in bonuses.
Democrats are hopeless. You know what you know and it just doesn't matter what the facts are. We are in serious trouble for the next four years, if not longer. Democrats screw up everything they touch and they are too stupid to understand what they have done.
How about appointing someone without a law degree as AG? In fact, how about a non-lawyer for SCOTUS?
Just a thought... but an excellent one.
But aren't you curious as to how someone becomes so fixated on something random, like Jewish people
What's random about it?!! It's deeply traditional, a well-trodden rut that it takes no effort or thought to fall into. It's a strong attractor, with the force of immemorial habit even if it is nonsensical from the get-go. People are fixated on Jews because people before them were fixated on Jews, so Jews must be the ones to be fixated on.
It reminds me for some reason of all the exultation that we've overcome racism. When you think about it, racism is so astonishingly moronic in the first place that thinking overcoming it is a great achievement only makes humankind look really primitive and pathetic. Judging someone based on the color of their skin -- it's ludicrous!
1jpb, I have a Master's degree in ChemE and have practiced in the field for 20 years. No ChemE I know brags about their intellect to strangers on the Internet. The satisfaction of doing the job well is sufficient. Perhaps you are an apostate ChemE for a reason.
They need her; she has the blueprints for the wall they want to re-build...
They need her; she has the blueprints for the wall they want to re-build...
This is just the beginning -- Ann, you were a fool to vote for Obama. Unfortunately, the rest of us who saw exactly what kind of thug Obama is will have to live with his "rule" (his word) by decree (executive order).
Next it will be his civilian "blueshirts" parallel paramilitary group silencing dissent.
A pox on everyone who voted for Obama!
Cedarford: Jaime Gorelick is Jewish - I knew her sister.
No surprises here. Obama ran as a blank slate and you could put whatever beliefs and values you wanted unto him. Now that he actually has to make decisions, most Americans will be shocked and stunned over the next few months and years. We did try to warn you Ann. All that talk about Ayers and Wright wasn't smear, dear. It was evidence of his thinking and his value system. Believe me, Ann, you have no idea what this con-man is about to do next. Stay tuned...
Hopey Hopey Change Change....blah blah blah
Pat from Stubborn Facts, who has worked in local politics, has a very interesting take in a comment at my blog on what kind of play this could very well be.
Hint: he thinks it could be "serious political hardball" aimed at the Clintons.
FM FM disaster: Nobody saw this coming? Google: Bush Fannie Mae 2003.
I see disaster in the making. A fast disaster.
Freeman,
"But aren't you curious as to how someone becomes so fixated on something random"
Heck no, that's why we have psychologists.
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