Althouse: Sunday Morning Café.

September 21, 2008

Sunday Morning Café.

I'll be joining you soon, but please start the early morning talk without me.

13 comments:

Ron said...: I have frying bacon...and hash browns...no eggs, though.

Ah, well, more coffee!; 9/21/08, 7:40 AM
Asante Samuel said...: I have to work again today, but I'd like to discuss the religious beliefs of the four major candidates.

Sarah Palin speaks the way she does because she is a true believer. My Mom speaks the same way for the same reason. I admire true believers, despite my own atheism. I admire the true believers with whom I lived in The Kingdom. There is no doubt in their minds.

The other three gentlemen, not so much. American Roman Catholics mostly make me want to puke. Believe, or not believe, there is no in between. You may be something else, but not Roman Catholic.

What to say about Obama? He is a political animal of the highest order. I believe he has made every decision of his adult life with an eye to the crowd. He is a smart guy, too smart to believe the shit pushed by his pals in the two Chicago pulpits. He is shameless, isn't he?

McCain? I think he's an Atheist like me, except he can't say so and run for office in America of 2008.

I like the Palin approach best. I may not agree with her, but I can respect and understand how it makes her think. Same as W.

How the Democrats have decided to use religion, and why they consider it necessary make me laugh. They do not have respect.

McCain just ignores it.

See you later.; 9/21/08, 7:44 AM
The Drill SGT said...: Ron said...
I have frying bacon...and hash browns...no eggs, though.

I do the cooking on weekends. Tonight we're having mushroom and cheese omelets (bit of garden chives), along with bacon and hash browns. Well egg-beaters, not round eggs

yesterday was grilled tri-tip (it's a California thing), along with a port wine reduction sauce, herb rice pilaf and brocolli

yum; 9/21/08, 8:01 AM
Ann Althouse said...: Both the presidential candidates are atheists, aren't they? That's what I assume. I know they can't admit it. Both the VP candidates are conventional, traditional Christians.; 9/21/08, 8:20 AM
George M. Spencer said...: McCain is a high noon Baptist.

Sarah's kinda got a Grace Kelly thing going.; 9/21/08, 8:30 AM
The Drill SGT said...: Ann Althouse said...
Both the presidential candidates are atheists, aren't they? That's what I assume. I know they can't admit it. Both the VP candidates are conventional, traditional Christians.

1. I think that opportunistic atheist pander is the best you can score for Obama. Anything more gets you into "how much does he subscribe to Rev Wright's BLT.

2. As for McCain, I think that his public religion is fairly political pro-forma. However, McCain was the Chaplain at the Hanoi Hilton, and every story read about him running those services and preaching sounds to e that he has an underlying faith.

3. Palin's faih seems deep and consistent

4. Biden is a pro-choice Catholic, whatever that means, I would not call it conventional.; 9/21/08, 8:46 AM
William said...: I have a great deal of respect for people who accept the hard choices that their faith requires. I think McCain is a social Christian. He enjoys the affiliations and sense of belonging that his church offers. His real sense of obligation was not to God but to his family honor. He did make a very hard decision on behalf of that honor. Sarah Palin seems to have a very comfortable working relationship with God and her church. She makes the choices that her faith requires look not only easy but joyous. More credit to her because of that. And more coals of fire upon her enemies for trying to make her out as some kind of dingbat.......Joe Biden is a good man. He's a cafeteria Catholic. As a fully committed Lapsarian (lapsed Catholics who just don't know what to believe), I cannot criticize the compromises he has made with Church dogma. At any rate, he has fulfilled his family and professional obligations in an honorable and decent way.....Obama's religious views trouble me. If he joined the Rev Wright's church only out of political expedience, that is too cynical. If he really accepts black liberation theology as valid, then he should not be Presdient. Obama has led a decent life but it is despite his religion and not because of it.; 9/21/08, 9:19 AM
Christy said...: I'm spending the morning with Paulson, Sec of the Treasury. He was on Fox News Sunday and now Tom Brokaw. Will he go for the quadfecta of Sunday Pundit Shows? I'd be interested in what those of you with greater understanding of the current mess think of his morning message.

On this glorious Autumn afternoon I shall be sailing the Chesapeake pretending that all is right with the world.; 9/21/08, 9:28 AM
David said...: Take a look at the Treasury proposal for their authority to attack the mortgage mess. It's so simple and straightforward that Congress won't know what to do with it.

Paulson will and should play hardball with this. Congress will have a s***fit because it doesn't make a bow to this group or that, and gives judicially nonreviewable authority Treasury to make decisions.

Congress will whine like the children they are and say that this or that is unacceptable. They will completely fail to acknowledge that the Congress itself is at the center of the creation of this mess.

Without Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and the five TRILLION dollar balance sheet enabled by the quasi-guarantee of the federal government, there would have been no market for the toxic securities that have taken down the financial system.

What we must remember, amid all the screaming about Wall Street greed, is that the greed was enabled by the United States Congress. Paulson's message is that the grownups now need to take charge. Congress will resist this, and also engage in massive blame deflection.

As citizens, we must hold the Congress to account, and make them take responsibility for the mess they have created.; 9/21/08, 1:32 PM
blake said...: Times like this, I wish I drank coffee....; 9/21/08, 2:19 PM
Ann Althouse said...: Yeah, this coffeehouse isn't happening.; 9/21/08, 5:03 PM
Trooper York said...: Most coffeehouses suck. It's for people who are afraid of bars. For one reason or another.; 9/21/08, 5:21 PM
Trooper York said...: Plus the WORLD CHAMPION NEW YORK GIANTS WON AGAIN.

It was a little tight but it worked out all right.; 9/21/08, 5:22 PM