September 10, 2008
"'It’s still a pig,' he said to loud applause," says Jeff Zeleny of the NYT, featuring Obama's defense of the Lipsticked Pig remark.
Here. But the thing is I know that the crowd laughed -- and Obama paused to encourage the crowd to laugh -- after he said "You can put lipstick on a pig," and before he said, "but it's still a pig." So it's obvious to me that the NYT is not playing it straight. Does it make a whole lot of difference? Obama's position is still defensible, but I hate to see the NYT helping him defend himself. Play it straight. Tell the truth. We have the video. We don't have to trust you anymore.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 288 of 288Candidate you'd most like to have at your side in a bar fight:
1) McCain
2) Palin
3) Biden
4) Obama
Uh...I'd rather not have a 73-year-old man who can't lift his arms over his head helping me in a fight. I'd pick Obama in a second because he would negotiate our way out of a fight.
Candidate you'd most like to see seize the controls of an aircraft after the pilot dies:
1) McCain
2) Palin
3) Biden
4) Obama
Didn't McCain crash his plane twice? Thanks, but no thanks!
201, bitchez!
Dammit, ZPS!
Look. You Democrats need to stop bitching about Karl Rove.
All credit due, that was a funny, regardless of the source.
Bambi wouldn't recognize that the fight was going on until he was on the floor with the victor standing over him.
Then he'd say, "racist!"
I'm having a little cognitive dissonance from reading the comments. (Commentive dissonance?)
Here's how the AP described what happened:
Obama used the reference as he criticized McCain's policies as similar to those of Bush, saying: "You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still going to stink after eight years."
So here, we have the elements (1) Obama criticized (2) his male adversary's policies (3) by using the lipstick cliche.
I've explained this to you at least twice now. McCain described Clinton's healthcare plan as an attempt to put lipstick on a pig. He did not insinuate Clinton was the pig in lipstick.
And here we have the elements, (1) McCain criticized (2) his FEMALE adversary's policies (3) by using the lipstick cliche.
Now, what do these elements add up to? According to the Althouse commentariat, in the McCain case, criticism + female adversary's policies + lipstick cliche = no insult to female adversary
While in the Obama case, criticism + MALE adversary's policies + lipstick cliche = insult to female adversary not even mentioned by Obama, as shown below.
If Obama really want to talk about the "issues", why compare Palin with a pig to begin with?
The only way this makes sense is if the Althouse commentariat had
One rule for McCain, and
Another rule for Obama.
And this disparity does not comport with neutrality.
...but then he'd say, "love the lipstick!"
Wonder how the right feels about that now.
Same way some Democrats must've felt when they saw the "Bros before Hos" t-shirts.
AlphaLiberal said...
Here is my earlier point, real simple so even Republicans can grasp it:
Lipstick = McCain's false reform pose.
Pig = McCain's vow to continue Bush policies.
Here is the truth:
Lipstick on a pig=Sarah Palin
Pig=Alphaliberal
Swineherd=Obama+(AlphaliberalxObama supporters)
Obama is on Late Night, but his campaing trail accent is not.
So here, we have the elements (1) Obama criticized (2) his male adversary's policies (3) by using the lipstick cliche.
He also mentioned Palin by name, and referred to her thusly before the lipstick on a pig:
Palin's bio is "compelling," Obama said.
The crowd booed. "No, it's an interesting story." More boos. "No, no, it is. I mean that sincerely. Mother, governor, moose shooter."
The crowd broke out in laughter. "That's cool. That's cool. That's cool stuff," Obama said.
He was feeding off of the crowd. Be men and women, and admit it FOR ONCE.
Come on, FLS. This pig thing is played out. Tell us again how the United States government controls the worldwide price of oil.
garage mahal said...
"Simon[,] So for the record, yes or no, you believe Obama called Palin a pig?"
You know, I still can't answer that. I wrote a post setting out whatI regard as being the important points that should inform how we evaluate it. I do believe that the crowd at the event took it to be a jab at Palin. I do believe that the way the possibility that Obama meant it that way has been dismissed by Obama apologists has been too glib. But I can't answer whether he meant it that way. I'm watching him on Letterman as we speak, and maybe he already talked about it or maybe he's going to (I forgot about it and tuned in late), but I haven't made my mind up. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, believe it or not, and I have done in the past on several issues.
If Obama really want to talk about the "issues", why compare Palin with a pig to begin with?
It is the only issue he has. He cannot make sense out of any other issues. Palin is a pig and that is the Obama slogan.
It does prove he is not moslem though.
Shoulda majored in economics, dude. There's still time. Your local community college can probably set you straight on a few basic principles. It's really not that hard.
What changed in just two years to double the price of gasoline? Given the lead time to find oil, build a platform, and start drilling, how will oil to be supplied in the future help prices now?
Remember Wimpy? "I will gladly pay you Thursday for a hamburger today." McCain's saying, "I will gladly pay you today for a promise of a hamburger at some future date."
This is September 11th, 2008. It marks the 7th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks on our country.
It's been a bad day leading up to it, with stupidity, dodging, and moral outrage on all sides.
Please, God, let us give it a rest one day, of all days, today.
I'll see you guys for the Charlie Gibson interview, later Thursday.
Never forget. And please honour our service men and women.
Cheers,
Victoria
It does prove he is not moslem though.
Disagreed, Peter. Not until he eats Palin chops.
What changed in just two years to double the price of gasoline?
The value of the dollar.
Simon
Gotcha.
I agree with Vic. Ann should do a bi-partsian post tomorrow where you have to say something nice about the other side or it gets deleted.
AlphaLiberal:
The fact that you are even trying to explain "pig lipstick" to us is Obama's failure. He never should have ventured there.
What changed in just two years to double the price of gasoline?
OPEC started working better. Economies in India and China and other countries exploded. Speculators bid the price up and there was a bubble.
There is nothing that any president can do to control the price of oil except for contributing more oil to the marketplace or, somehow, finding a way to decrease demand. Good luck with a government program that decreases demand.
Of course, FLS, you understand none of this because you are a tool.
garage: what has Obama done recently that deserves praise from Ann?
Good point, Blake.
243!
Uh...
(just planning ahead).
So, how many more days will people be talking about pigs and lipstick? Two, three?
It's kind of crazy...now the phrase can never be used in any sort of discourse (politics, business, fashion) without calling this situation to mind. I think it will soon disappear from American colloquialisms.
somefeller said...
Peter, I seem to recall you whining about how you didn't move up the food chain in the Chicago PD...
Then you better learn how to read asshole. I know you never got out of the first grade, so I will repeat it, in brief: I was vastly qualified for the position. Totally unqualifed people took the positions because of who they knew, not because of their qualifications. I said nothing about minorities or liberals. The whole system is corrupt. Obama is part of that patronage system. He was plucked, bought, paid for, and if you vote for him, you are votiung for political corruption.
But, being a good Democrat, corruption is an ethical value to you.
"Pig in lipstick" is the new uppity.
OPEC started working better. Economies in India and China and other countries exploded. Speculators bid the price up and there was a bubble.
All true, but to be fair, lots of conservatives claimed the bubble/speculator argument was bogus. Just go to redstate.com to see proof of that.
Interesting point from a GOP oilman friend I watched McCain's speech with: watch for crude oil prices to drop further, because much of the price rise came from China, and as the global economy (particularly the US) slows, less money in Chinese consumer pockets leads to less gasoline purchase by them, which leads to a crude oil drop. Plus, now that the Olympics are over, a lot of Chinese oil demand will drop. Oil prices will hover around $100 or drop below shortly, to the extent traders aren't already pricing as such. Don't buy high on oil commodities pricing.
Seven Machos,
You left out one important point. For the past twenty years, the legislature has refused to approve the building of new refineries. Thus, gasoline has to travel farther distances; transportation costs driving the cost of gas higher. When a refinery goes down, there is a shortage, creating a higher demand with a lower supply.
The Democrats and the Republicans are to blame for this.
Aww, Peter, the whole system is corrupt? That's why you didn't move up the food chain? Ha-ha! Excuses, excuses. Whatever happened to pull up by your own bootstrap personal responsibility? Such is the decline of modern conservatism.
Feller -- I stand athwart most of redstate, yelling, "You are as silly as democraticunderground."
Blake makes a good point about the low dollar. That's something Bush could have worked to correct through monetary policy. On the other hand, monetary policy is largely controlled by the Fed, and the Fed is largely independent. There are other problems that come with a strong currency, too.
As the great Harry Truman said, "Give me a one-handed economist."
Alex said...
garage: what has Obama done recently that deserves praise from Ann?
Nothing. What has Obam done that deserves praise from anyone?
He also mentioned Palin by name, and referred to her thusly before the lipstick on a pig:
Palin's bio is "compelling," Obama said
Play hard but play fair, vb. According to the Ben Smith Politico blog:
Obama said the quote you linked to Monday, in Farmington Hills, MI.
Obama made the lipstick remark Tuesday, in Lebanon, VA.
Your quote about what happened in Michigan does not prove what happened in Virginia.
Peter -- That's true, too. One thing I'm sure we can all agree on is that America will be a better place when we can replace oil as a primary fuel source. To that end, high oil prices were great.
Come on, FLS. Talk to me. Tell me how the government controls oil prices.
Of course, FLS, you understand none of this because you are a tool.
Drill baby drill! Yahoo! I'm gonna get me an Escalade, now that they're so cheap.
P.S. -- Feller, just so we are clear, I am not railing against speculators.
Once again, FLS: please explain to us your theory about how the government controls oil prices. I'm waiting. I guess I'll check back in the morning.
Looking forward to it. Should be a hell of a treatise.
Good night!
somefeller said...
Aww, Peter, the whole system is corrupt? That's why you didn't move up the food chain? Ha-ha! Excuses, excuses. Whatever happened to pull up by your own bootstrap personal responsibility? Such is the decline of modern conservatism.
I hope someday you apply for a position that you are immensely qualified for. I hope you do not get it. I further hope you also get fired and are rpelaced by a politcal hack who cannot even read or write. I hope it goes to a totally unqualified person. Then see how you feel. Oh, you have no feelings for working people. How silly of me.
You Democrats are the party of corruption and it is a stench in the land. You think it is funny? What if that unqualified person had to do something to save your miserable life? Think about it. You die because some patronage hack with no skills is assigned to save your sorry ass. So fuck you Mr. Somefeller. Die. I will laugh at you.
P.S. -- Feller, just so we are clear, I am not railing against speculators.
Neither am I. Speculators are a necessary part of the market. Plus, some of my best friends are speculators. Or, at least, the guys who generously buy me a drink or two at happy hour at the Petroleum Club of Houston when they're feeling rich are friends. That having been said, there was a certain degree of denial among conservatives (not you, apparently and obviously) about the role of speculators in the summertime crude oil price rises, and it's worth pointing that out if we're going to talk about oil prices and their effect on public discourse.
Aww, Peter. Sounds like you need a hug.
explain to us your theory about how the government controls oil prices.
Wha'choo talkin' 'bout, Willis?
Seven Machos said...
Peter -- That's true, too. One thing I'm sure we can all agree on is that America will be a better place when we can replace oil as a primary fuel source. To that end, high oil prices were great.
Unfortunately it will not happen soon. The economics are just not there. All the other alternative fuel sources are more costly than oil; even at its current high prices. Two years ago eithe Fortune or Forbes had an article on various alternative fuel sources. All of them would cost way more than oil due to production costs, extraction costs, and other costs due to processing and trasnportation. Even government intervention through financial assistance- grants, aid, tax subsidies, etc. would not bring the costs down.
Oil is still the cheapest form of energy we have, for the near future.
Blake makes a good point about the low dollar. That's something Bush could have worked to correct through monetary policy. On the other hand, monetary policy is largely controlled by the Fed, and the Fed is largely independent. There are other problems that come with a strong currency, too.
Well, yeah. For as long as I can remember--and you should hear me say that in my best Morgan Freeman voice--people have been bitching about manufacturing jobs leaving the US, and the import/export deficit.
Well, duh. If the dollar's strong, that's what's gonna happen.
If the dollar weakens, you get more exports and manufacturing becomes more attractive.
The talk reminds me of global warming/climate change. As if there were some ideal.
If the dollar weakens, you get more exports and manufacturing becomes more attractive.
Except everything I buy in the stores still comes from China -- which has ruthlessly cut costs (e.g. switching to leaded paint) to avoid raising prices.
FLS,
Did you really expect manufacturing to turn on a dime? It's gone up recently, but it may never go back to where it was.
That reminds of when Michael Moore went down to Mexico the week after NAFTA was passed, to show how it hadn't changed anything.
"Palin's bio is "compelling," Obama said.
The crowd booed. "No, it's an interesting story." More boos. "No, no, it is. I mean that sincerely. Mother, governor, moose shooter."
The crowd broke out in laughter. "That's cool. That's cool. That's cool stuff," Obama said."
Ace has a link (or someone does that I saw recently) that included several examples of Obama doing this same sort of thing, this same sort of funny-man cutting, to Hillary.
He's insulting Palin... which we'd expect. That's part of the game. But he's doing it in a way that is frankly, the sort of "how mean can I be and how clever!" that my friends and I used to indulge in in high school... being *good* at that was a mark of honor, almost. "I mean this sincerely" and that means "watch me now as I really zing her good".
I'm going to pretend I'm saying nice things... because I'm a nice guy.
Does anyone (other than Alpha Liberal) think that Obama was trying to get anything but a derisive reaction for his "nice" words about Palin?
The thing about those high school contests was that you never ever said what you actually meant. EVERYTHING was an innuendo or a sideways reference to something else. That's what you got points for.
You know... I was thinking that there were nice things I could say about Obama... that he is smart and has skills that would have probably made him a *good* senator, even if his policies wouldn't ever have been anything I liked.
But I don't think so anymore.
Is anyone here as disgusted as I am with Obama's supposed "tax cut" to "95% of Americans." First, 50% of Americans dont pay income taxes. So really Obama's "tax cut" only effects only 40% of Americans. To the other 50% who don't pay income taxes, Obama wants to give them a welfare check similar to the welfare chaeck the same group got this past summer. You know that check that helped out our economy so much.
Moreover, Obama's so called "cut" is just a temporary credit that will do nothing for the economy in the long term but cause it to shed jobs overseas.
Obama's tax "cut" plan is not a tax cut plan. It is a wealth redistribution program from people in our country who create jobs to those who don't.
Obama is a fraud. He will lose badly in November.
I'm just wondering when Ann will be expressing outrage at this sexist comment:
I think Obama won this whole Pig thng because the great thing Palin has going for her is toughness. It is supposed to be Democrats parsing language endlessly for perceived slights to victims. Palin is not a VICTIM! Those of you who are trying to defend her from Obama's attack are not helping her in my opinion. Let her handle it or ignore it or whatever. I really think the McCain campaign screwed up whining about this.
And I mean that even if it was true that Obama was making a sexist dig at her. If this campaign comes down to who can claim to be a bigger victim the prize will go to Obama.
Palin's dig at the media in her acceptance speech was not couched in terms of "I'm a victim" - it was - what a**holes these elitist bastards are.
Anything that distracts from Palin looking like she can kick ass and take names is a win for Obama. The McCain campaign should be saying, "Obama is so afraid he is lashing out just like his friends on MSNBC - what a loser." All this panty bunching is weak tea.
Was that panty bit sexist? Well you know who else is sexist? The mullahs of Iran. If Palin in the next few days can come out of this kicking butt not crying about it then she wins. Otherwise I think Obama will have already begun muddying her waters.
"I'd pick Obama in a second because he would negotiate our way out of a fight."
So, Obama wins the I-don't-know-what-a-bar-fight-is vote.
Good for something, I guess.
think Obama won this whole Pig thng because the great thing Palin has going for her is toughness. It is supposed to be Democrats parsing language endlessly for perceived slights to victims
I think your wrong. People's interpretation of Obama calling Palin a pig is just rudeness. It has nothing to do with Palin being a woman. I agree with you that McCain's internet ad wasn't so good but it will be seen be few people.
In the end, the whole event just portrays Obama as a dope for saying it and it also adds on to the list of never ending baseless attacks on Palin made by Obama and his liberal media allies. The cumulative effect of those attacks is what will cost Obama votes. Just look at the list:
Palin's chldren have been attacked
Palin has been accused by Democrats of not having her child.
Palin was accused of banning books
Palin was accused of supporting teaching creationism
Palin was accused of supporting the succession of Alaska
Palin's experience as PTA, mayor, oil and gas commission, and Governor have all been ridiculed by the MSM and Obama in one way or another.
Palin has been accused of cutting funding for special needs kids
Etc... These are all smears and have been proven false in just a week!
Palin was accused of banning books
So Palin gets a free pass just because the librarian stood up to her? Anne Kilkenny said she was one of the people who rallied on the librarian's behalf, after Palin fired her for not being willing to remove books from the collection.
What changed in just two years to double the price of gasoline?
The Chinese economic boom and lower than expected production from Saudi Arabia.
Given the lead time to find oil, build a platform, and start drilling, how will oil to be supplied in the future help prices now?
Because some of the oil purchased now is being stockpiled against fears of future shortages. Besides, even if there was no effect on current prices, we'll still be using oil ten, twenty, and thirty years from now; as others have observed, had Democrats not hamstrung the initial attempts to drill offshore and in ANWR, those supplies would be online right now. Your attitude is that of a smoker who argues that one more cigarette won't kill him, so why quit. You need to practice long-term thinking.
So Palin gets a free pass just because the librarian stood up to her?
"Stood up to her" how? Palin never asked her to ban so much as a single book. Even the librarian in question doesn't say Palin ever asked her to ban a book.
Anne Kilkenny said she was one of the people who rallied on the librarian's behalf
Anne Kilkenny is a proven liar; the list of "banned books" she's been mailing around has been conclusively shown to be a fake.
You're welcome to believe she "rallied" to stop the "banning"; you're welcome to believe the Moon landings were faked for all I care. I just isn't an intelligent or rational thing to believe, that's all.
Anne Kilkenny is a proven liar; the list of "banned books" she's been mailing around has been conclusively shown to be a fake.
Who proved it?
Someone else has been emailing the fake list. I suspect the Karl Rove disinformation squad.
Who proved it?
FactCheck.org and Snopes, for starters. The list was copied verbatim from the Florida Institute of Technology's list of "books that have been banned at some point somewhere in the United States". It contains books that hadn't even been published yet when Palin dismissed the librarian, e.g. the Harry Potter series.
I suspect the Karl Rove disinformation squad.
Of course you do.
Here's the funny thing Ann. Chris Matthews showed the 2 clips of McCain saying " lipstick on a pig".
The audience laughed both times. McCain wasn't even being jokey about it, he was dour in both performances...yet...the audience giggled.
I think the sentence makes people giggle.
honest, go back and watch the youtube clips.
So the answer to your NYT question is this. By making an exception for Obama (in a negative way) and referencing the audience as "laughter" and not "applause" it validates the republicans false charge.
Everyone laughs when a politician says "lipstick on a pig" McCain's youtube videos prove it, even when he's being super serious and talking about healthcare.
McCain didn't do a dramatic pause either time, he didn't even look up at the audience.
For the NYT to make the headline "laugh" would have been taking the republican charge at face value and to damn Obama for being sexist.
...even though making a joke about a women is prima facie evidence of sexism.
McCain is making Obama McCain and McCain Obama.
McCain is the agent of change with a ground breaking ticket...and Obama is the dour angry man who says nasty things about women he knows...
Of course Matthews could have ended the discussion by simply saying, "What was McCain's audience laughing about?"
There was something about Obama's cadence that seemed...so familiar...but I couldn't place it.
Then I remembered.
Sloanasaurus - For the first time in American history, the largest single group of americans by sex and race, white women, now have a a member of their group running for high office.
You might wish to look a little closer at those history books, Sloany...
Something about a lady whose dad died when she was 8 and was a Catholic scholarship student. Then was a Queens housewife with three kids that became a teacher to supplement family income, while attending night classes at Fordham Law. Who then became a business lawyer in real estate, then one of the first lady DA's in New York Then in Congress for 6 years.
Ferraro was undermined by becoming a typical NYC special interest liberal Democrat...de rigeur for anyone seeking office there. By the whacked feminists of the era that tarred her by association. And her husbands "cutting corners" on his tax returns and the "Mr. Ferraro has mob ties! rumors.
She also wasn't a very good debater or rally speaker.
But she was about as middle-class white female ethnic America as they come, replete with the "inspiring biography".
Sloan - Sure, most of the liberals won't vote for Palin, but their aren't enough liberals to put Obama into office.
I suspect that for many liberal women, Obama and Team Axelrod's slighting of women, emphasis that race always trumps gender in Dem identity politics, and Palin's everywoman charisma might be more powerful than liberalism. And their hatred of Bush, his favoring the rich over other Americans, his wars and incompetence.
But on top of liberals, you have moderates in both Parties plus the independents fed up with the Bush Way.
The odds still favor Democrats.
2006 and tossing anything that smelled remotely of George Bush out of office was thought to be a harbinger of worse to come next cycle - as it was in 1970 and in 1992 - which was prelude to massive bloodletting in 1972 and 1994 for discredited Dems.
Or it could be that events and Dem bungling make it less damaging to the Party of Bush, DeLay, Billy Tausand, and Mark Foley than anticipated.
I'd pick Obama in a second because he would negotiate our way out of a fight
Obviously you have never been in a bar fight.
Didn't McCain crash his plane twice? Thanks, but no thanks!
Any landing you walk away from is a good one. Or would Obama negotiate the landing?
Then again I guess partisan politics trumps common sense every day.
“'Never get into a wrestling match with a pig,' Senator John McCain said in New Hampshire this month after reporters asked him about Mr. Romney. 'You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.'”
NYT 1-24-08
When a Republican loses the Bush-backing Iraq occupation-loving Washington Post editorial board, you've lost the argument:
"With a woman on the ticket, apparently all references to cosmetics -- or pork of the non-bridge variety, for that matter -- are forbidden. "Sen. Obama owes Gov. Palin an apology," sniffed former Massachusetts governor Jane Swift. "Calling a very prominent female governor of one of our states a pig is not exactly what we want to see." No matter that Mr. McCain used the lipstick-on-a-pig phrase himself, referring to (female) Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's health-care plan, or that (female) former McCain aide Torie Clarke wrote a book with that title. In the heat of a campaign, operatives will pounce on any misstep and play to the referees over any arguable foul. We understand that, and certainly the Obama campaign has not been above such tactics. But this cynical use of the gender card is unusually silly."
winding up with...
"John McCain is a serious man who promised to wage a serious campaign. Win or lose, will he be able to look back on this one with pride? Right now, it's hard to see how."
John McCain is a clown.
Obama: We have real problems in this country right now. The American people are looking to us for answers, not distractions, not diversions, not manipulations. They want real answers to the real problems we are facing.
Hey Alpha, perhaps you can explain: if Obama wants to talk issues, why did he compare Palin with a pig in the first place?
Alpha?
Is "lipstick" his idea of a real answer to a real problem?
Who proved it?
Really? You're just now learning about the fake ban list?
Friends don't let friends hang out in lefty echo chambers.
I don’t recall anyone questioning that BO’s ’shoulder brush off’ and ‘checking his shoes’ - at the same rally that he seemed to give HRC ‘the finger’ - were not dismissive gestures. And he did so solely because HRC had performed better than him in a debate - not dismissed/insulted him.
So while BO disputes that his lipstick comments were not meant to be dismissive - we all know that he has made dismissive gestures before - and made them when he is upset about being bested by a woman.
That is why BO can not spin his way out of this this time. Silly season my bxtt.
I have two sister in laws who are staunch Democrats and they have turned against Hussein Obama over this lipstick fiasco. Both say they cannot vote for him now.
I know this thread has died a good death.
But I have very much enjoyed watching the PC-sensitivity-diversity-victim crowd twist themselves into Gordian knots trying to absolve themselves of one of the most serious sins in the liberal religion.
Fun times, eh?
Modern liberal denials:
Bill: "I did NOT have sex with that woman."
Obama: "I did NOT call that woman a pig."
[commercial break while Alpha flips through his talking points]
When we return, perhaps Alpha will have a response:
Obama: We have real problems in this country right now. The American people are looking to us for answers, not distractions, not diversions, not manipulations. They want real answers to the real problems we are facing.
Hey Alpha, perhaps you can explain: if Obama wants to talk issues, why did he compare Palin with a pig in the first place?
Alpha?
Is "lipstick" his idea of a real answer to a real problem?
Great Moments in Presidential Lipstick:
Nixon on the May 1968 Cover of Esquire....
What Shade is that Man Wearing??
Hello?
HEEEEEEELLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOO!
IS THERE ANYBODY HOME?
THE DOOR WAS LEFT UNLOCKED SO I LET MYSELF IN.
ANYBODY HOME?
HEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Hmm, guess not. Oh, well. Might as well make myself comfortable.
**fixes self a sandwich**
**turns on TV**
**puts feet up on the furniture**
Bissage!
Get yor damn feet offen the coffeetable!
Geez.
Uh...I'd rather not have a 73-year-old man who can't lift his arms over his head helping me in a fight.
One other thing Zachary, you only have to raise your hands over your head in a fight if you plan on surrendering.
Hey - I smell a sammich. Who took my Pringles?
Woah, dudes! You startled me there for a second.
**puts feet back where they belong**
Sorry, about that.
Hey, look everyone, . . . Professor Althouse is back!
Come on, let’s go!
Just one more pointless comment down here past 280 about this pointless subject...
Perhaps some people were laughing just because they've heard the phrase enough, that they understood what the "punch line" was, and NOT that they were reminded of the lipstick/pitbull/hockeymom reference nor linking "pig" to "Palin".
Just a thought.
FactCheck.org and Snopes, for starters. The list
Not "the list". Anne Kilkenny. Who proved Anne Kilkenny was a liar?
If you don't know what you're talking about, please don't feel obligated to apply.
Not "the list". Anne Kilkenny. Who proved Anne Kilkenny was a liar?
Sigh.
If you'll be so good as to actually read the links I provided, you'll see that Kilkenny's claim:
While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin's attempt at out-and-out censorship,
... has been shown to be false. So that's one obvious example of her lying.
That claim was made in the widely-copied email that has been confirmed as being written by Kilkenny.
"I might be able to comprehend if "Drill baby drill" is really going to lower the price of gasoline." Let's try some seriously unleftist ideas such as basic economics. First, supply and demand. Add to total supply with constant demand and the price declines. Understood? Then, the US now imports 70 percent of its petroleum. Most people can see this amount is too large; it puts significant power in the hands of Chavez, Putin, assorted sheiks, i.e. OPEC. Not good for national security.
Until the omnipotent One invents his perpetual motion machine to harness energy, regaining some leverage over US petroleum supplies seems like a good idea. N'est-ce pas? When did the petroleum price bubble spring a leak? When Bush said in late July that he was lifting the executive ban on offshore drilling. If not related, why not?
For those with the attention span of a gnat, this statement “'Never get into a wrestling match with a pig,' Senator John McCain said in New Hampshire this month after reporters asked him about Mr. Romney. 'You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.'” seems to have something to do with Palin? Huh? Note the reference is to Romney. How does this statement work as an excuse for Obama re Palin? Please explain.
Anyone else remember the "RATS" controversy from 2004???? The democrats wouldn't stop talking about that for DAYS.
One other thing Zachary, you only have to raise your hands over your head in a fight if you plan on surrendering.
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