December 29, 2005
Question about shirt collars.
How should a man decide whether or not the collar of his shirt belongs inside or outside the lapels of his jacket? Obviously, if he's wearing a tie, the collar goes inside, and a big crazy disco collar goes outside. But other than that, what is the significance of inside or outside?
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You ALWAYS wear your collar inside your jacket.
And you DON'T wear beagle-ear shirt collars.
Period.
Always. Any shirt that you might contemplate wearing the collar over the lapels of your jacket should be immediately discarded.
Exactly. Collar should always be inside the jacket.
John and SWbarnes are correct.
The only exception is when you are stuck in a time machine and the dial says 1975, then the collar goes outside of the lapels.
"The only exception is when you are stuck in a time machine and the dial says 1975, then the collar goes outside of the lapels."
Though it is well established that if the option exists to repair the time machine and exit the 70s, that is the only proper course.
shirt collars can go outside of some sweaters however.
Dorothy Sayers, contemplating male fashion, invented a female novelist named Harriet Vane who in turn invented a detective named Reginald Templeton who dressed in loud plus-fours. By this means neither of the two women, the real and the invented, had to risk disfiguring their books by blowing the fiendish subtleties of upper-class male dress.
xljdhmwl - a dove=gray sportcoat with 2 vents and sleeve buttons that actually work.
what is the significance of inside or outside?
Whatever the man's wife tells him the significance is, that's what!
It is the difference between "Thirty Something" and "Desperate Housewives."
Inside, always inside unless you are going to a costume party and plan to go as Disco fever Johnny.
The collar goes where I want it to go.
So far, it's always gone inside the jacket. Poossibly once or twice while intoxicated, I wore it outside but I can't remember.(Younger days)
If you are out with your wife or girlfriend, then, by all means, listen to her.
But if you are going to work, it goes inside, and if it is too big for that, you need to get a shirt with a collar that will fit inside your coat.
This of course presupposes that you are working for a reasonably conservative company, a law firm, or the like. When I was at Motorola, we had joint meetings with Apple and IBM (the AIM alliance), and we dressed in dark suits, the IBMers wore polo shirts, and none of the Apple employees had collars, even when they actually did wear suits.
Every top dog I have seen in a sports jacket wears his collar on the inside.
wait! What about when your collar is "popped," ie sticking straight up? It's what all the cool kids are doing these days.
But the cool kids are probably not wearing suit coats, so it probably doesn't matter.
The Drill SGT has identified one exception to the rle on collars inside. If you collar includes rank insignia then the collar is worn out side the sweater. Evn with birds or stars the collar goes inside a jacket.
Presumably, if the shirt collar is outside the coat collar, then the top shirt button is also open. The effect draws the eye to that sublimely sexy anatomical feature we call the neck.
Some men have what it takes to pull this off, but alas many do not.
A most sensible group of comments. Indeed the collar always goes inside, unless you are wealthy enough to look goofy and phony without suffering any blowback (and even then, collar inside).
Two other things men should not do:
-Do not wear sunglasses purched atop your head. Either put them on, or put them away. Otherwise you just look like a really "handsome" chick.
-Do not wear collars on polo (or any)shirts "up". It does not look cool, ever. It shouts, "look at me, I have extra time in my day to turn my collar staight up so I can feel cool." It's not the '50's and you are not the Fonz. (And doesn't he look stupid in Happy Days now, what with his cameltoe or balltoe in those tight pants?)The guy beating your ass for your upturned collar,...he's cool.
Collar goes under the jacket. Over is kind of effeminate looking, no? Women do the collar-over-jacket thing all the time, after all.
The only exception is if you are rich and skinny and appearing in an East Asian soap opera, in which case the collar over the suit is de rigeur.
Yes, I am sure... it's merely fighting sunburn on the neck that causes collars to get erect on men's polo shirts...yah. Katie Baker you are INSANE! (kidding).
I am not saying women can't do it- it's fine for them. Just saying it looks rather calculated and foolish on men. The same with raising a collar on one's leather jacket.
Was Fonzie fighting sunburn? Was James Dean? How many men are fighting sunburn (and, uh, indoors) and how many are thinking themselves some sort of moneyed polo wearing rebel?
Then too, under the logic of battling the sun, does that mean blacks can't put their polos up?
I would add to Finn's sunglasses rule: don't hang your sunglasses from your neck like a necklace. I see lots of guys doing this with those "Oakley" sunglasses with those like, molded straps, and it looks really affected.
Nothing any man wears, ever, should look affected. It's patently un-masculine. (IMHO).
And other than the occasional hipster, I can't really picture a man wearing a collar outside his jacket. Hugh Hefner wears his PJ top outside of his robe sometimes I think. Yuck, how do I know that?!
While I can agree that its probably a bad idea if you can pull it off why not, exibit a, Brad Pitt in Ocean's Eleven.
Try trousers for your husband instead of shirt that have collars.
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