Joe Kort, who wrote the book “Is My Husband Gay, Straight, or Bi?,” says that stories like Greenstone and Hoff’s are increasingly common among his therapy clients. “More and more and more, that’s happening,” he said. "A lot of straight women are so tired of patriarchy and they know that gay — and even bi — guys are going to be less patriarchal,” he said. “That’s what I’ve seen.”...
Some of Kort’s gay clients feel alienated from gay culture. Others say they’ve always wanted a traditional heterosexual family unit regardless of their own orientation...
October 13, 2025
"Yes, she’s pregnant. Yes, it’s his. And yes — if you must know how they conceived — in Greenstone’s words, 'we birds’d and we bees’d.'"
From "He’s gay. She’s straight. They’re happily married./A new crop of couples are making content about their mixed-orientation marriages, divorced from sexual attraction but not love" (WaPo).
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..."A lot of straight women are so tired of patriarchy ....."
Of course they are. They can't tell you what it is, but they absolutely know it when they see it.
This just seems like heterosexuality with more steps.
Women in 2025 America have never had more wealth, freedom, stature and power than at any point in history, so yeah, marry a gay guy to fight the patriarchy or whatever...
It's permitted to stereotype gay man as a bunch of limp-wristed pussies.
Lavender marriages! They've been around forever.
Gay men are just better at sugar coating their dominance. My MIL was a San Francisco bank executive in the 70's. She would only hire gay male secretaries because they were detail oriented, socially sensitive, quietly aggressive and not intimidated by alpha male executives.
So is this sort of thing stunning, or brave, or both? Maybe it's fierce.
Gay men have been doing this for centuries. They want children so they have sex with a woman. Pretty simple.
“Gay men have been doing this for centuries. They want children so they have sex with a woman. Pretty simple.”
Now, if only they would go back into the closet….
I remember my English prof making passes at me (I'm straight, but sound kind of gay when I talk; in my 20s I was ripped and gay men would occasionaly send out gay sonar pings). Anyway, my friend said "oh no, Professor L is married with 2 daughters." So I thought no more of it until prof L walked up to me while I was taking a shower at the colisseum and started discussing Lady Chatterly's lover. Interesting how many gay men in the 1980s had children.
I just read Prof L's obit. He had 4 children + 2 adopted, 10 grandchildren, etc. This is how gay genes survive! He was a good professor and I never resented that he made passes at me. I graduated just before AIDs hit. I wonder if it made him give up any gay side life he may have had.
If you want evidence for a gay gene, this is how it happens. Bisexuality. Gay genes passed to offspring.
Oscar Wilde had children too.
Everything old is new again.
It was a few years ago that leftists were outraged about therapy for gay people who wanted to be straight. And now, strange, here are gay people who are reproducing.
The other thing, is that if you are really appalled by heterosexuality, you would reproduce via doctors and IVF. Glad they went old school! It's way more fun.
an erect penis has no conscience..
come to think of it; neither does a limp one
if you are really appalled by heterosexuality, you would reproduce via doctors and IVF
And this goes for straight women as well, it seems, going all the way back to Murphy Brown.
Let me add that I strongly support IVF. But for the procreation-inclined who have no medical issues in the way, the natural method is cheaper and easier.
Transgender is a spectrum including so-called bisexuals, homosexuals with a heterosexual fetus... fetish or vice versa.
whatevs…
Unpopular opinion, but I think this is a better family structure than two gay men adopting or using surrogacy to have children, or two lesbians adopting or using surrogacy to have children. We tend to focus on marriage primarily as the romantic fulfilment of two people, but as far as families go, specifically raising children, it is critically important that children grow up in a home where there dad and mom, meaning their biological dad and mom, love and care for them. While it is true that many people adopt children and provide good homes for those children, we play make believe that that means the biological connection does not matter. It does. It matters that children feel loved and invested in by their biological parents. This, in my mind, is why dad, or mom, or both, making dinner for their children is important.
And they didn't interview Tim Walz for this article.
This is very tangentially related, but I saw this YouTube short a week or so ago about how lots of straight white men in Japan sound gay when speaking Japanese. Clip. I say this is slightly related because this post is about Gay men occupying a straight role, and the clip is about straight men occupying a gay role.
I recall seeing this on the Brady Bunch, but some of the kids weren’t his and some weren’t hers either.
the natural method is cheaper and easier.
and way more fun
and orgasmic
and yabba dabba do
I think it's telling that Kort says this is more and more common among his therapy patients in an article that wants to make this seem like it's normal. If it's such a nifty system, why are its practitioners in therapy?
A transactional relationship is not novel. Neither is a transgender male with a heterosexual fetish. Love and luet incorporated. A handmade tale of sperm donors and womb farms is a green conception.
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