Is it possible they'll commit to this love for freedom of speech with such intensity that they will forsake its rivals? It's unlikely, but I'll be delighted to give them credit... or even a vote.
Now, lets check in with Roseanne Barr again:
Remember when you and your wife called Bob Iger to have me fired? https://t.co/w5BcJ1bsLC
— Roseanne Barr (@therealroseanne) September 18, 2025
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ABC fired Kimmel.. just like they fired Rosanne.
Roseanne had high rating.
Kimmel has low ratings.
Rosanne said something stupid.
Kimmel lied in the face of his party's assassination-speech industrial complex.
Let them make many strong and loud professions of love, because I want a lot of material to throw in their face when — if? — they get back to subordinating freedom of speech below endless other more important matters.
No.
They are not honest people and they have made their choice. They are still celebrating Kirk's murder.
I would rather live with people who disagree with me than people I agree with and want to kill people they disagree with.
as I pointed out, you don't ridicule Valerie Bowman, nee Jarrett,
red diaper baby born in Iran
the corrupt left:
"The Biden DOJ did nothing when Antifa attacked Charlie Kirk on campus in 2023 2 years later, an anti-fascist shot him dead on another campus The threat was always there."
--- @JackPosobiec
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Mar 14, 2023
BREAKING: Antifa smashing doors and windows at UC Davis entrance where Charlie Kirk is speaking. "
Also the left: "Antifa are just a lovely idea."
Peachy said...
Rosanne said something stupid.
What did she say that was stupid?
Obama is just another wealthy greedy white progressive antifa-inspiring snake oil salesman.
Remember when the government had a real, live, federally funded office of disinformation?
We can always use more people everywhere and always who will advocate for free speech.
"Let them make many strong and loud professions of love, because I want a lot of material to throw in their face when — if? — they get back to subordinating freedom of speech below endless other more important matters."
Showing them hasn't mattered before, it doesn't matter now, and it won't matter in the future. They know they're hypocrites. Their leadership knows they're being intellectually dishonest.
They. Do. Not. Care.
Yes we do, Milo, and it's one reason why we laugh like hyenas when they sputter about "what if we had power and went after you?"
Achilles - you know damn well she went off on Valarie Jarett.
It was stupid -imo (unnecessary) and it got her fired.
Roseanne got cocky.
Again - ABC can fire anyone for stepping outside the bounds of what and who they want representing them.
Remember what happened to Alex Jones?
I think the Kirk family needs to sue ABC and Disney and it would seem he is due a couple billion dollars.
I think the harder challenge would be identifying a "right wing" media outlet or personality that the Left (including CNN's Tater) has not tried to deplatform and silence vs the other way round.
What gets me is they seem to have forgotten the old FCC Fairness Doctrine. Democrats wielded that like a club back in the day.
Man, Obama is getting massively dragged on X.
Her "stupid tweet" was that she thought of a joke that would have been very funny in a cultural vacuum, but touched the third rail of racial politics. Maybe since she is not a racist herself, she wasn't tuned into these things, which is, I guess, the definition of "insensitive." Anyway, it had to do with Valerie Jarret.
The broad debate among the Right is: Should we behave as if the Left will someday return to power, and will use against us whatever tactics we're now using against them?....OR
Should we be ruthless, for they have and will use any tactic against us that serves their interest, regardless of how be behave now?
It's a good debate. Do we care about ideological consistency and hypocrisy? Does caring aid the Left's relentless and mostly successful effort to transform society?
Does ANYTHING the Trump movement does today affect how the Left will treat us tomorrow?
@RideSpaceMountsin (9:12), +1
whatever, leftists
Whatever, leftists.
Milo Minderbinder said...
Remember when the government had a real, live, federally funded office of disinformation?
We have many federally funded offices of disinformation. The Bureau of Labor Statistics has been proven wrong for years. So has the CDC, EPA, DoEd, and just about every other government department, agency, bureau, can coffee club.
Jones was lazy and irresponsible, in spreading his message,
lazy in going for the 'crisis actors' when there was something much more sinister, and encouraging his followers to pursue victims of same,
After every horrible thing that occurred under Crook Joe - we must do all we can to defeat the corruption and lies that accumulated. The Assassination culture that is the Modern Democratic Party.... must be condemned and rooted out.
Kimmel is really another Antifa-inspiration propaganda touch point.
as they said in road house 'its time not to be nice'
Peachy said...
Rosanne said something stupid. Kimmel lied in the face of his party's assassination-speech industrial complex.
Moreover, Kimmel used his employer ABC's borrowed broadcast spectrum to spread his lies about a murdered citizen; Roseanne used private social media to mock a powerful government official.
Barr aside, there's another important distinction: Kimmel lost his ABC broadcast platform, but has the full panoply of secondary social media and publishing options open to him.
Whereas the Biden administration used its state power to put pressure on those secondary, private media to completely censor and defund people in violation of the 1st Amendment.
@CJinPA:
They were respectfully disagreed with. They laughed.
They were scolded. They laughed.
They were shown their hypocrisy. They laughed.
They were mocked. They abused state power to shut it down.
They were debated. They beat up and shot the opposition.
They were warned...repeatedly. They doubled-down.
They were threatened. They attacked.
They're being fired. They cry out in pain as they continue to strike.
The opportunity for amicable solutions is past. They had oh so many. Power is their goal, not a means to an end. Getting it again only means they all become amnesiacs again. More than one citizen has died not from an assassin alone, but a monstrous network of assassins worldwide.
Not only will they not apologize, but millions will not accept their apology at this point.
Their apology is not acceptable
where is terry moran these days (asked no one)
Calling the modern left hypocrites assumes they care about truth. They don't care about truth or even reality. They only care about the power and control.
Obama's fatal flaw has always been his pride and ego. He pontificated about changing the world as an academic and inexperienced Senator. Then, Sarah Palin filleted his Hollywood stage set, and he got to DC. He walked into a 'friendly' coven of Deep State sausage makers, and he went along with it because they surely fed his ego Homer-Simpson-in-Hell-with-endless-doughnuts style.
I'm guessing he was told daily: "You're the first black President. Let's make sure you are remembered well for all time. Let's make lots of marks in the history books."
Then, he dissed Trump pre-45 "At least I was President."
Ego is his Achilles heel.
you left out a few steps, they used lawfare to force her out of the governors office, or face bankruptcy, they used the Tucson subterfuge to stain the tea party, despite Dupniks complicity, the Possums, conspired with the Dems to savage her endorsed candidates,
her only real fault, was she was too earnest, 'community organizing' is not a joke, its a recipe for social turmoil
RideSpaceMountain, I've become a "play to win" guy. Whatever it takes (legally). The stakes are that high.
That said, there are ways to be ruthless in action but temperate in words. Be smart. Not sure if Trump or his cabinet is capable of that. We can't count on running against Kamala and Hillary forever.
The challenge is Trump trying to do in 40 months what the Left did in 40+ years. Will voters reward or punish him for it? We'll find out.
his pretense about 'civil unions' turned into a full wurlitzer for gay marriage, his agitation against law abiding cititzens from the Gates incident to Freddy Gray, helped set the country on fire,
And not just swooning in love with freedom of speech, but swooning in love with corporate speech.
We can't count on running against Kamala and Hillary forever.
Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi — are there any leading female Democrat politicians who aren’t drunks?
its turtles all the way down, Pritzker, Newsom Moore,
i'm 63, and spent most of my life in a college town
(and ALL my life in a family of Life Long Democrats (other than me));
and i've noticed,
The ONLY Time democrats SAY that they're in favor of free speech,
is when it's THEIR Speech
politically correct.. hate speech.. the "n" word.. antifa..
one side says that THEY are allowed to offend,
and that same side is OUTRAGED when they are offended.
as WE ALL KNOW, Charlie Kirk was a FASCIST.
How exactly? was he a Fascist? he'd sit at a table and debate all comers
For that he was killed.
What Kimmel do? his ratings dropped to 129,000
https://nypost.com/2025/09/18/media/jimmy-kimmels-ratings-were-slipping-before-abc-suspended-him-for-charlie-kirk-comments/
CJinPA said, "Whatever it takes (legally). The stakes are that high."
I understand what you mean, just be cognizant that in any prisoner's dilemma (which is what we're in right now) the side that follows rules always loses to the side that doesn't. War has no rules.
You may not be concerned with the declaration of war that was secretly made upon you, but it is most definitely concerned with you. Remember...they've thought we're evil much much longer than we've though the same about them. They transitioned to justifying and approving your death long before Kirk was shot.
My definition of "legally" is allowing them to fire the first shot, after which everything that happens is perfectly "legal". Perhaps they just did. It will be interesting to see how their brownshirts react to the punitive consequences of being designated a Terrorist Organization. That will heavily influence my thoughts and reactions and those of my friends moving forward.
America's Cold Civil War grows hotter everyday.
Rosanne was fired in 2018 and Trump was president at the time not Obama.
you have work at becoming so selective,
@Big Mike: "are there any leading female Democrat politicians who aren’t drunks?"
AOC: Insane
Ilhan Omar: Insane
Rashida Tlaib: Insane
Kathy Hochul: Insane
Michelle Lujan Grisham: Insane
Ayanna Pressley: Insane
Jasmine Crockett: Insane
Mad Maxine Waters: Mad (yes, insane)
None appear to be drunks, or drunkenness is their secondary state.
Mispelled evil, ymmv
Jones - no credibility.
Wince - excellent! yes!
Do’h!
CJinPA asked the right question: "Does ANYTHING the Trump movement does today affect how the Left will treat us tomorrow?"
I think it is clear that the answer is "no".
I'm old enough to remember when lefties supported the famous quotation "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it", but that was a long time ago.
I think we can all agree They are free-speech hypocrites.
“Rosanne was fired in 2018 and Trump was president at the time not Obama.”
True.
Althouse, the Democrats don't care that their hypocrisy gets thrown into their faces and they never have. It is the Left's major superpower- they are utterly shameless in the pursuit of power. Only tit for tat, or more, works against such an opponent.
Lefties and freedom of speech has never been a thing.
Neo.
The “it’s the Jews who did it!” folks didn’t waste any time
They cheered after CK's political assassination, yet weep over Kimmel losing his job. Leftists (including Legacy Media) have exposed their true selves, and it is vile. Now Legacy Media attempts to make Kimmel the real victim in an attempt to hide their complicity in CK's murder. It's not going to work. After Sept 10, things are different, and that has them panicking.
I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve. --Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto
Gemini…
“No, Barack Obama did not have Roseanne Barr fired. The decision was made by ABC executives in 2018 in response to a racist tweet that Barr posted about Valerie Jarrett, a Black woman and former senior adviser to Obama.
Here is a breakdown of the key facts:
Barr's racist tweet: In May 2018, Barr posted a tweet stating that "if muslim brotherhood & planet of the apes had a baby=vj," referring to Jarrett.
ABC's immediate cancellation: ABC Entertainment President Channing Dungey issued a statement calling Barr's comments "abhorrent, repugnant and inconsistent with our values" and announced the cancellation of the Roseanne reboot.
Disney CEO's involvement: Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney (which owns ABC), tweeted his full support for the decision and personally apologized to Valerie Jarrett.
Barr's unfounded claims: Barr has since repeated a baseless claim that the Obamas pressured Disney/ABC to fire her. However, no evidence, such as emails or call logs, has ever surfaced to support this conspiracy theory.”
Dunham said...
Rosanne was fired in 2018 and Trump was president at the time not Obama.
You people are just fundamentally dishonest.
You know who fired Rosanne and why they did it.
"I didn’t know exactly what form it would take, but after I heard that Charlie Kirk had been assassinated, I considered it inevitable that the Jew-haters would blame the Jews, and quickly. This of course includes the Jew-haters on the right, one of whom (Candace Owens) I wrote about recently in this post. ...
I didn’t know exactly what form it would take, because Charlie Kirk was such a strong supporter of Israel. But where there’s a Jew-hating will, there’s a Jew-hating way that the narrative can be shaped."
REALITY: Charlie Kirk is known for his respect of the Jewish faith and even promoted the Sacred Sabbath on Saturday.
That Roseanne was fired while Trump was pres proves what?
Inga said...
Gemini…
“No, Barack Obama did not have Roseanne Barr fired. The decision was made by ABC executives in 2018 in response to a racist tweet that Barr posted about Valerie Jarrett, a Black woman and former senior adviser to Obama.
It is cute that you rely on Gemini to write words for you. That just highlights your stupidity.
Obama absolutely supported Rosanne getting fired because he is a totalitarian hack who constantly promoted violence against he people he disagreed with.
You are just a terrible person nobody wants in the town hall anymore. Your only purpose here is to lie and to remind everyone just how awful the people celebrating Kirk's death are.
The hypocrisy of the Left is so great even South Park can’t keep up.
ABC can re-hire Kimmel.
Do it - ABC.
the fact is - Kimmel's show - similar to Colbert- was losing money. Kimmel's offensive lies,-- just the excuse ABC needed.
Did Trump try to force ABC to re-hire Roseanne?
Dunham said...
Rosanne was fired in 2018 and Trump was president at the time not Obama.
Correlation does not prove causality. Trump did nothing to get Barr fired. The Obamas, though not in the White House anymore, did contact ABC to get her fired.
AI Overview
“Former President Donald Trump did not attempt to force ABC to rehire Roseanne Barr. However, after the network canceled her show in 2018 over a racist tweet, Trump weighed in publicly to condemn what he perceived as a double standard.
Here is a timeline of events:
March 2018: The Roseanne reboot, featuring the main character as a Trump supporter, premiered to high ratings on ABC. At the time, Trump called Barr to congratulate her on the show's success.
May 29, 2018: Barr posted a racist tweet about Valerie Jarrett, a former senior adviser to President Barack Obama. ABC swiftly announced the show's cancellation.
May 30, 2018: In a series of tweets, Trump responded to the cancellation but did not defend or condemn Barr's tweet directly. Instead, he criticized Disney CEO Bob Iger for calling Jarrett to apologize but not calling him to apologize for "HORRIBLE statements" made about him on ABC.
Trump's focus: Trump's public comments focused on his own grievances with the network and its coverage of him, rather than on the specifics of Barr's firing. The situation became a vehicle for him to express his long-standing complaints about perceived bias from the media.”
Liberals say that Trump's assault on free speech is a clear threat to our democracy. They're wrong—it's a clear threat to our republic.
As a free speech advocate who has used Republican-friendly rhetoric for the last decade, I never could have imagined that the Republican party would decide to end all press freedoms in America.
The Dullard™ doubles down on dullardness by directly quoting long stretches of AI generated summaries.
JournoListic publication inciting, celebrating abortive ideation and other forms of violence have been restricted. They can still bray their handmade tales.
I found it laughable that Bari Weiss was warning “the right” about jawboning, because it could be used against “the right” when the left gets back into power. Murphy vs Missouri was brought against the Biden administration and SCOTUS ruled in the Administration favor. They already used it, and in many ways against her too.
...the Republican party would decide to end all press freedoms in America.
Lighten up, Francis.
You people are just fundamentally dishonest. You know who fired Rosanne and why they did it.
Achilles,
You give some of our commenters too much credit. I am pretty sure that some of them lack average reasoning skills. Others are just taking their cues from professional Democrat liars and manipulators.
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