September 10, 2024

"The candidate who will win the election is the candidate seen as the most able to bring about change, say strategists on both sides."

"A New York Times/Siena College poll found 61 percent of likely voters said they want major change from Biden. Democrats argue Harris inhabits an ethos of change simply by being a younger, fresher candidate, and her potential to become the first woman president. They hope Trump will look stale on the stage next to her."

Writes Amber Phillips, in "What Harris, Trump need to do to win Tuesday’s presidential debate" (WaPo).


My question about Harris as the change candidate: She just seized all the delegates Biden won in the primaries to get the nomination, which symbolized that she was the proper substitute for him. Doesn't that require her to run on his record and vow to stay the course and tell us not to change horses in midstream? I think the answer is "yes," and that explains the new focus on age. She is Biden II, the younger Biden.

But people want change, supposedly. It's a "change election." The idea seems to be to convince the people that the change from Biden is just someone younger (and, if you must, also a different color and gender).

89 comments:

Did you order your Handmaids Tale Outfit yet?/ Rachel Maddow is a Psychopath said...

Biden was hellbent on leaving Afghanistan — ignoring military advice, NATO objections and Afghan pleas: House report.

If you listen to the hack-D press- they too blame Trump.

Jamie said...

Harris inhabits an ethos of change

What, unburdened by what has been?

Did you order your Handmaids Tale Outfit yet?/ Rachel Maddow is a Psychopath said...

Trump should ask - "Who deposed Joe Biden?"

He should stand there and ask that over and over and over.

Leland said...

“the change from Biden is just someone younger (and, if you must, also a different color and gender).”

Do we know anything about who is running the White House right now? Last week, we had an American killed by Hamas and the President came back from vacation to tell us he worked tirelessly to get Israel to take the blame, err I mean to get Israel to stop Hamas from killing the hostage by giving into their demands for a ceasefire. If Biden was on vacation and Harris was on the campaign trail, who worked tirelessly at the White House?

Kai Akker said...

--- Trump should ask - "Who deposed Joe Biden?"
He should stand there and ask that over and over and over.

I'm sure he will reference it. I'm not so sure it will affect many voters. To the Democrats, they are interchangeable parts so it doesn't matter. They may have made an improvement.

To the Republicans, it was inevitable and irrelevant how it came about, so it doesn't matter to them either. They already know the Democrats do whatever.

doctrev said...

Donald Trump does not need debate advice. If anything, "such a nasty woman" only worked when his enemies were going all out. Kamala Harris will do her best to look basically functional, but President Trump will expose some of her many flaws. It's a gift.

Still, at least she will probably do better than Joe Biden.

Did you order your Handmaids Tale Outfit yet?/ Rachel Maddow is a Psychopath said...

Other tha nthe vile corrupt hack D media pimping Kamala non-stop - there is no difference between any of the leftist hacks who want to be top puppet.

gilbar said...

Nothing says CHANGE, like being a member of the current Admin..

gilbar said...

are YOU better or worse off than 4 years ago?

Breezy said...

The cold-blooded reptile Pelosi was on the View yesterday, and declared it was an open process to select new nominee. Right.

Why is Hakeem Jeffries no where to be seen? Pelosi really in charge of the house Dems, and Obama really in charge of the Oval, it seems. Is Schumer a puppet, too?

tim maguire said...

The bigger question is, what was Harris' involvement in covering up Biden's dementia? What did Kamala know and when did she know it? (She was either complicit or a dupe; either one is disqualifying.)

Jersey Fled said...

Shorter Harris:

Don’t ask me anything because I might change my mind later. Or at least pretend to to get elected.

Did you order your Handmaids Tale Outfit yet?/ Rachel Maddow is a Psychopath said...

“They finally added an ‘Issues’ section to her website . . . Unfortunately for Harris, its release was undermined by a simple but telling error: The page’s source code revealed that parts of the platform were copied directly from Biden’s campaign page.”

Heh. Out with the old puppet(D) - in with the news puppet(D)

wendybar said...

Change you can believe in, like the fundamental transformation of America into a chaotic 3rd world ghetto??

Limited blogger said...

According to the MSM, Harris' biggest debate moment was when she told Mike Pence that she was talking. Can't wait for her to unleash this on Trump.

Dave Begley said...

Yeah, but the Left says Trump is chaos.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

The idea seems to be to convince the people that the change from Biden is just someone younger (and, if you must, also a different color and gender).

I think that's the preferred scenario and they're working on that assumption because they just can't get their heads around the idea that some of us may prefer Trump's policies.

Rusty said...

Trump is simply going to change it back so that it works again, for everybody.

rehajm said...

Kamala did not seize Biden’s electoral votes they were given to her by the people by Democrat leaders and the people who have been running the executive while Biden is ‘president’. The people running Kamala are the same people what run Biden so there’s no change with Kamala.

Just asking questions (Jaq) said...

Yes, we must vote for a younger version of Joe Biden so that we can continue his policies well into the future, it's "change you can believe in!"

rehajm said...

She’s younger but dumber…

Just asking questions (Jaq) said...

It's not a lie if the media says it! I saw it on TV, it must be true!

rehajm said...

They’re ready to give Kamala the hook and install the next one warming up in the bullpen. George Clooney will let us all know…

Aggie said...

The Democrats have been trying to hide deeply flawed leaders behind the symbolic titles of office. So it was, with Joe, so it is, with Kamala. Trump, on the other hand, doesn't hide. He's right there in front of you, hair, warts, and all - what you see, is what you get. He's not afraid for you to know these things, in fact he prefers it.

I predict Kamala isn't going to do very well. She'll try on her steely-eyed Prosecutor costume, but it won't hold; she's a phony crusader and everybody knows it. Tulsi destroyed her with it. Her practiced glib lines will fail her.

Politician support teams always want to trick voters with unasked questions. The question here is not 'who is the most able to bring about change'. The question is, 'Who will bring change for the better, and who will bring change for the worse?' But it's risky to put it that way - better to imply it, and let the voters ask it to themselves, maybe not even realize they're asking and answering it in their head.

The Democrats have been shrieking, trying to accuse Trump of bringing the 'End of Democracy !' - but voters know it's really the 'My Democracy club saying that, with diehard Democrat voters vying to be included in that particular club and to h*ll with your Democracy, Loser. Normal voters remember what Trump actually did with his 4 years, against a relentless nefarious, dirty-dealing, double-teaming opposition. Triple-teaming, if you include the GOPe.

tommyesq said...

Worried about Trump's age and mental faculties? Vote Harris, and you can have rambling and incoherent in a younger, eight-year-eligible package!

tommyesq said...

To my knowledge, Hamas has NEVER indicated that they would agree to a cease-fire in any form and has NEVER indicated that they have any intention of returning hostages.

Dixcus said...

Who are the vote counters? What are their names? Which political party do they belong to? Who have they been donating to? Are they going to board up the counting room windows again?

If you can't answer these questions, then you don't even know the right questions to ask about this election. I notice that the media studiously refuses to talk about these questions and instead, make generalities.

The person who is going to win the election is the person who is controlling the vote counters. Who are they?

n.n said...

We need a third gender, say TranX to represent persons who misidentify with another sex's attributes (e.g. sexual orientation), and an integrated Rainbow to combat progressive hate symbols and rhetoric. Vote for the TranX Person of White/Albino.

Dixcus said...

Joe Biden won the Democrat Party nomination and then it was stolen from him. Just like the election was stolen from Donald Trump.

And by the same people.

Just asking questions (Jaq) said...

Good point, vote for Trump and you are limiting whatever comes to four years, he's the low risk choice in this Hobson's choice election.

tommyesq said...

CHANGE!

Dixcus said...

"Do we know anything about who is running the White House right now?"

Same people who have been running it since they stole the election (hint: not Joe Biden).

Barack Obama and Valerie Jarret are running the country.

Dixcus said...

He should let her speak as long as she wants. And I suspect he will.

Just asking questions (Jaq) said...

The people who run the government will manage Kamala as easily as they managed Biden, with him they just let him dip his beak to his heart's content, with his son as bagman, while they ran the country, with Kamala, they will let her enjoy the trappings of power and the illusion that she is important, and they will continue to run the country in the same exact way.

Dixcus said...

Trump's best line in the first Democrat debate (the one with the real nominee) came after Biden mumbled out an answer to a question:

"I have no idea what he just said there, and I don't think you have any idea either. Anyway ..."

He should queue that line up again after one of Kamala's Word Salads.

RMc said...

Doesn't that require her to run on his record and vow to stay the course and tell us not to change horses in midstream?

No, it doesn't, and you're a racist for saying that. (And a traitor to your gender. And a transphobe, probably.)

Short of a Biden-esque meltdown, the media will wildly praise Harris post-debate and revile Trump for "beating up on a girl".

Just asking questions (Jaq) said...

ln the movie "The Remains of the Day," there is a scene in the home of a powerful English lord, in the time when they had real power, where Christopher Reeves, playing a wealthy American, proposes a toast at a table full of powerful political figures to a future when government is run by 'professionals" because the way leaders are chosen in a democracy makes a hash of things. He didn't say "To the Deep State!" but he may as well have.

Maggie Thatcher might have been the last true people's choice of leader in the UK, and Trump will be the last one in the US, even if he gets a second term, which I am hoping for.

cfs said...

Change?. With Harris? She finally put an "Issues" section on her campaign page. Most of it was copied directly from the Biden campaign page.

Vote Harris and you get more of the same although probably at a faster rate of destruction. It will just be with a "strong woman of color" ostensibly in charge of the destruction rather than the dementia-riddled old white guy lying on the beach.

rhhardin said...

The candidate who will win is the one who will make abortion legal in states that have limited it. Women break strongly for Kamala.

n.n said...

Abortion is legal in all 50 states.

n.n said...

Change or diverge?

Sebastian said...

"Doesn't that require her to run on his record" Not at all. If the party wasn't required to run the candidate who actually won its primaries, it certainly isn't required to run on his record. Give them credit: they'll do whatever is needed to win. For now, that means running away from Biden, only to turn back to full-on prog after November.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

We discussed Harris's attempts two weeks ago to establish herself as the "change candidate" despite the fact she is in office now, nominally in charge given Joe's condition. Really all Trump need do tonight to puncture that balloon is ask, "Why aren't you doing those things NOW?"

n.n said...

Democratic special, peculiar, and queer interests with emoluments.

boatbuilder said...

Did they forget about the "Hope" part?

n.n said...

Karma-la is in orbit around Biden who is in orbit around Obama's World War [ethnic] Spring. All's fair in lust and abortion.

Leland said...

That’s my understanding as well, tommyesq. So I can’t explain Biden’s response blaming Israel, and no reporters seemed interested in asking to get an answer.

Kevin said...

She just seized all the delegates Biden won in the primaries to get the nomination, which symbolized that she was the proper substitute for him.

Status quo = lawful transfer of power. Change = unlawful overthrow of power.

Kevin said...

Harris should be forced to choose tonight. Either she defends the Biden Administration or she throws it under the bus.

To quote Mike Ehrmantraut, "No half measures."

Enemy Within said...

Peter Navarro is the brains behind Trump’s tariffs-fix-everything policy. As I understand it, Navarro acknowledges the cost of inevitable retaliatory tariffs from the rest of the world, but either argues that the inflation it will bring about is outweighed by the benefits of protectionism (ie protecting US manufacturing base, jobs etc). History suggests otherwise because we have been down this road before in the 1930s. Google Smoot-Hawley tariffs for a sense of what’s in store. The thinking then was that America was too important and its domestic market too huge for the rest of the world to even contemplate retaliating. They were proven wrong by events and if anything America is less dominant of a force now than it was in the 1930s. Retaliation brings about global recession. Simple as that.

As for Navarro’s obsession with levelling the playing field with China, I suggest this article from the Cato Institute that refutes Navarro’s thesis point by point. For the uninitiated, the Cato Institute are a GOP bastion of libertarianism and not Democrats.
https://www.cato.org/regulation/fall-2018/peter-navarros-conversion

narciso said...

Planet Hillary anyone remember when that Harridan was being carried by Carlos Slims scribes,

BarrySanders20 said...

She is, after all, No. 2 in that administration. Might have to consult the Austin Powers method to find out from the media the answer to the question Who Does No. 2 Work For?

n.n said...

Jobs will be exported to slave states, immigration reform will replace Americans, Green deals will blight the land and sea, and debt (e.g. progressive prices) will become legal tender. Throw another baby on the barbie, it's over?

n.n said...

Albinos (People of White] will be sacrificed in a Rainbow parade. Sex will be changed to gender (i e. sex-correlated attributes). This is the age of divergence and conflation. You've come a long way, baby.

n.n said...

Labor and environmental arbitrage are the currency of transnational special and peculiar interests.

Temujin said...


Change for change sake is absurd and naive. Voting for change requires to know what that change will be. And Kamala and Donald have two very different visions of change: One more Statist, one more individual freedom focused. One based on building up and increasing the power and hegemony of government, the other focused on slicing up and gutting out the leviathan of governmental excess.

The approach to 'change' could not be more different.

Gunner said...

Trump will only lose if he has some makeup or wardrobe malfunction. Then the libtard media will focus entirely on that.

Did you order your Handmaids Tale Outfit yet?/ Rachel Maddow is a Psychopath said...

I heard on ABC radio news - something akin to - "But Trump made a deal with the Taliban" Trump threatened the Taliban they better not harm anyone. nothing more.
That the corrupt Biden regime went ahead and fucked it all up - is on them.
I hate the media. ABC CBS NBC WaPoo NYT and PBS - all Soviet a-holes.

Did you order your Handmaids Tale Outfit yet?/ Rachel Maddow is a Psychopath said...

So what? Your gal wants a One-Party Authoritarian state. akin to Maduro or Creep Lula.

ron winkleheimer said...

The problem Rich is that economics aren't the only concern when it comes to trade. I'm old enough to remember arguments about not letting steel production and manufacturing jobs be outsourced overseas because of national security concerns. Turns out they were correct. Completely free trade only works in a world where the sea lanes are secured by a dominant power and there is no danger of war with a peer or near-pear adversary. Currently the US Navy is unable to secure access to the Suez Canal because Iran is supplying some near hunter-gather tribesmen with some missiles. And we have no air craft carriers in the Pacific.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2024/08/no-u-s-navy-aircraft-carriers-deployed-in-the-pacific/

Oh, and the US can't really build naval ships anymore.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/05/17/us-navy-ships-shipbuilding-fleet-china-naval-race-pacific/

And maintenance on the existing fleet isn't great either.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/craighooper/2023/09/21/americas-waterfront-buckles-as-big-us-navy-maintenance-plans-go-awol/

And of course there is the issue of China building up there Naval capacity at a greater rate than the US can.

https://news.usni.org/2024/02/01/report-to-congress-on-chinese-naval-modernization-20

Michael K said...

That's why her handlers tried to keep the mikes open.

Michael K said...

The Biden Harris DOJ is now warning red states not to be too energetic in cleaning up voter rolls.

deepelemblues said...

They've been trying to push BUT TRUMP IS OLD TOO for the last six months and made no headway. All the attacks on Trump have more or less failed (on abortion, on the less side), so they pivoted to laving Kamala's feet nonstop for a month, which has more or less (more) failed too now. What do they have left?

Michael K said...

Ron, you are overloading "Rich" with facts. These are like garlic to vampires with people like "Rich."

Darkisland said...

Seems like every other post in the Journa.host Mastodon this morning is about how old or incoherent or both President Trump is.

These journos are going nuts over Kamala's declining popularity.

John Henry

Jupiter said...

Boy, that Amber Phillips is one incisive little commentator, isn't she. I bet she went to a good school and got good grades and everything. Jeff Bezos really got a great deal when he bought that empty-headed little twit. Perky!

Old and slow said...

He wasn't deposed. His team is still firmly in control, so only the public face has changed.

mindnumbrobot said...

Democrats argue Harris inhabits an ethos of change simply by being a younger, fresher candidate, and her potential to become the first woman president.

So it's entirely superficial. Welp, that's good enough for your average D voter. It all about the feelz.

n.n said...

There have been presidents who, if not identified as, identified with the feminine gender, the female sex. In fact, none of our presidents have been [overtly] transgender. That said, who will be our first white (i.e. albino) president? #NoRainbowHate

Enemy Within said...

Having seen Trump's comments on tariffs and his views on who will pay them, it is fairly clear he doesn't understand how they actually work. He seems to think they would be paid by foreign companies, and not as is the case, by US companies who import goods from abroad. That someone standing to be President has such little understanding of his key policy platform really should be more widely reported..

Trump’s previous go at tariffs drove so many farmers bankrupt that he forced taxpayers to pay billions to bail them out.

Kevin said...

Perhaps not so unburdened: “They finally added an ‘Issues’ section to her website . . . Unfortunately for Harris, its release was undermined by a simple but telling error: The page’s source code revealed that parts of the platform were copied directly from Biden’s campaign page.” Charles C. W. Cooke

Lazarus said...

So it's a conflict between the image (Trump -- Pale, Stale, and Male Yesterday's Man -- and Harris -- the Fresh Face of the Future) and reality (Trump will change things; Harris means four or eight more years of Bidenism and stagnation).

I wonder, though, how Republicans will manage the message that Harris is just a continuation of Biden with the message that she will be immeasurably worse. One thing that needs to be said is that the fuller impact of Bidenism won't be felt until next year, when the Trump tax cuts expire and more of Biden's policies kick in -- and Harris will take things from there.

Michael K said...

"Rich" pretends to be an expert on tariffs. What else are you expert on ? Politics ?

Real American said...

If you want our country to be run by some woke HR scold who's going to lecture us on our alleged privilege every time you disagree, then Harris is the candidate for you.

If you want things to actually change and don't mind mean tweets, then Trump is for you.

Big Mike said...

But people want change, supposedly.

People want change, actually! But what they want, when you leave urban bubbles (like Madison) are changes in policies. Hence Harris desperately trying to “borrow” Trump policies*, such as “no tax on tips,” and pretending that she’d build a border wall after all. But she has only tonight’s debate to make the case that she wouldn’t just be Joe Biden all over again, except younger, female, and darker skin color.
___________
* I write “borrow” because she obviously plans to give them back to Republicans as soon as she’s inaugurated, if she isn’t beaten in November

robother said...

Change! Another word that the Biden-Harris Administration is struggling to re-define. At this point, Kamala has managed to blame Trump for (1) Afghan withdrawal fiasco, (2) inflation, (3) federal deficits, and (4) illegal immigration surge. So she represents change, and to prove it, she is promising to carry out all Trump's policies.

Enemy Within said...

I don't think Trump ( or Michael K) really understands what he's proposing.

If any other candidate pretended tariffs were paid by foreign countries — as opposed to the American importers and American consumers who actually pay for them — that candidate would be ridiculed as "Low IQ", as Trump likes to say.

DINKY DAU 45 said...

change? They already had CHANGE Dark Brandon and Kamala just did biggest mindfuck change in political scenery causing the two old men to be ONLY ONE OLD MAN! You'll see an Orange Old Senile man and a young 50's trim woman on stage tonight.One bloated and obese, the other trim and kempt and the DOUBLE HATERS(JOE and DON) now only have Don.. TOO OLD before your very eyes and definitely losing his marbles..His Pal LEON will be pulling for him though..

robother said...

Rich brings up another of those failed Trump polices (tariffs) that Kamala will change, err, continue to embrace (as did Biden). About all Rich can say at this point: it's different when WE do it!

NMObjectivist said...

I don't want change. I want to go back. Is that possible?

wendybar said...

Chaos surrounding Trump ALL comes from the violent left.

Iman said...

I think you are full of shit. Matter of fact, I know you are full of shit.

tcrosse said...

Always count your change.

Michael K said...

The McCain GOPe in AZ are doing what they can to help Kamala.

Michael K said...

"Rich" is such an expert on tariffs that I am sure he will lecture us on why Reagan's use of tariffs was such a disaster. Remember when those tariffs on Japanese Cars resulted in those new Japanese plants that were built in the nonunion South ? And all those new jobs ?

Mikey NTH said...
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Mikey NTH said...

"Does that word salad come with Russian dressing?"

Mikey NTH said...

That is a change.

The Godfather said...

Trump should ask that question ONCE, and only once, but he should insist on an answer from Harris. The Trump campaign can then be structured around whether Kamala is Caesar or Brutus.