June 26, 2023

"Kennedy maintains a mental list of everyone he’s known who has died. He told me that each morning he spends an hour..."

"... having a quiet conversation with those people, usually while out hiking alone. He asks the deceased to help him be a good person, a good father, a good writer, a good attorney. He prays for his six children. He’s been doing this for 40 years. The list now holds more than 200 names. I asked him if he felt that his dad or uncle had sent him any messages encouraging him to run for president. 'I don’t really have two-way conversations of that type,' he said. 'And I would mistrust anything that I got from those waters, because I know there’s people throughout history who have heard voices.' He laughed. 'It’s hard to be the arbiter of your own sanity. It’s dangerous.'"

 Writes John Hendrickson, in "The First MAGA Democrat/Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is feeding Americans’ appetite for conspiracies" (The Atlantic).

35 comments:

gilbar said...

serious question:
How lame is the democrat bench, that this guy is on deck.
Joe Biden?
Kamela Harris?
Smucky Schomer?
Pete Buttifuk?
Is THAT All There Is?

Limited blogger said...

Should I say congratulations, or express my condolences?

TickTock said...

My only criteria for a presidential candidate these days is whether he will tear things down and start from scratch. Fortunately there are two such running.

madAsHell said...

What a line of bullshit!!!

This is Bill Clinton feigning to play the saxophone.
This is Joe Biden pretending to not be demented.

This is all bullshit!!

madAsHell said...

The dead are the only ones that will vote for him.

YoungHegelian said...

I asked him if he felt that his dad or uncle had sent him any messages encouraging him to run for president. 'I don’t really have two-way conversations of that type,' he said. 'And I would mistrust anything that I got from those waters, because I know there’s people throughout history who have heard voices.' He laughed. 'It’s hard to be the arbiter of your own sanity. It’s dangerous.'"

Imagine what kind of a world Mr. Hendrickson lives in where he doesn't know anyone who prays. What Kennedy discusses here would have been ordinary life to anyone's Catholic grandma. Maybe the intention list is kinda long at 200, but other than that...

As for "feeding conspiracies", perhaps the best way to keep conspiracy theorists at bay would be for what they claim to turn out to be not true. Instead, we've seen so many turn out to be true or as plausible as the alternative in recent years.

Static Ping said...

The Atlantic has gone full communist. Their opinion of other person's sanity, decency, or anything else does not interest me.

Yes, it sounds very eccentric, but probably harmless. We already knew he was a kook. The problem is in today's Democratic Party, the kooks are often the saner ones. I mean, it is more sane than demanding that there only be one of each thing in the supermarket because you are mentally unfit to just choose something, but The Atlantic thinks that is perfectly normal, because they are communists.

Sebastian said...

"Writes John Hendrickson, in "The First MAGA Democrat/Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is feeding Americans’ appetite for conspiracies"

Cuz, as everyone knows, MAGAness is defined by an appetite for conspiracies. But it's useful to see the prog MSM troops having to play defense by trotting out such tropes.

By the way, after Horowitz and Durham, is it safe now to call the Russia collusion hoax a Dem/FBI conspiracy? Or is that still a prog no-no?

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

Make America Great Again.

The collective corrupt mob left HATE that.

Saint Croix said...

Kudos to him for his honesty. I know he's a liberal and I would never vote for him. But I admire him and I feel bad that I let glib fuckers in the media define my world view for much of my life. He's not crazy and all you media fucks owe him an apology.

The next time anybody says you or Donald Trump or anybody is "crazy," inform them that it's neither a medical term nor a legal term and you must have picked it up on the street somewhere. They will quickly back down. It's elitist bullshit masquerading as serious thought. TV reporters are the worst, of course. There's a reason everybody and their mother are seeking out independent journalism.

Static Ping said...

I suppose I should add that given we currently have multiple major conspiracies that have been proven to be true and, in some cases, worse than originally imagined, anyone who does not believe in conspiracy theories is either part of the problem or utterly blind to the obvious.

farmgirl said...

I, for one, love that he spends time thinking of his loved ones beyond the grave and talking to them. Not with them, btw. I’ll never vote for him, but he’s not afraid of who he is. He stands on his principles. I’d say, he’s got a decent personality… the total opposite of Biden.

Can he debate, though?

gspencer said...

"because I know there’s people throughout history who have heard voices"

Start with Harridan Hillary, "I occasionally have imaginary conversations with Mrs. Roosevelt to try to figure out what she would do in my shoes,″ Mrs. Clinton wrote. "She usually responds by telling me to buck up or at least to grow skin as thick as a rhinoceros.″

https://apnews.com/article/463b43015d4b8e5860c964d253e87379

Saint Croix said...

The media is so fucking bad now that it's gone beyond maligning innocent Republicans, and now it's maligning innocent Democrats as well.

The media will select your president for you!

Pravda has spoken!

Barbara said...

I’m not the first person to say this, but we need to bring back those grizzly old party hacks in a back room deciding who should carry the party banner. Both parties.

Yancey Ward said...

So, who do the commenters think this sudden surge of anti-Kennedy press is designed to serve given the same press has started to turn on Biden in the last week. Newsom? Shelob?

Lexington Green said...

Every Catholic prays the creed, which includes the phrase, “I believe in the communion of saints.” Catholic don’t believe physical death ends the person’s existence. Catholics pray to saints for intercession. So communing with dead friends is not even weird. Full disclosure, I have a similar list, and I ask some of them to intercede for me.

wildswan said...

Determined to show that Kennedy is not viable, his effort to stay grounded in his past is presented as listening to voices. There are people who listen to the voice of NPR and race after its standard wherever it goes (mandate, never asked for mandate, close schools, never asked for schools to close). But no one thinks of that as listening to voices.

Gerda Sprinchorn said...

>> He asks the deceased to help him be a good person, a good father, a good writer, a good attorney. <<

This is a relatively subtle way of getting some reflected holiness from his sainted murdered relatives. A bit hokey and opportunistic, yes, but still pretty well done for a politician.

Blair said...

I thought Trump was the first MAGA Democrat? Just saying.

Blair said...

I thought Trump was the first MAGA Democrat? Just saying.

deepelemblues said...

I would never vote for him, but pieces like this don't lessen my opinion of the man. Quite the opposite.

Anyone talking about Democrats not being into conspiracy theories, it's just that nasty RFK Jr, he's Democrat MAGA!... well, such people are either wholly ignorant or wholly mendacious.

Robert Cook said...

"This is Bill Clinton feigning to play the saxophone.
"This is Joe Biden pretending to not be demented."


And Donald Trump acting (badly) as if he is a good and caring human being who gives the barest shit about anyone or anything but himself, feeding his ego, and fattening his bank account.

gspencer said...

Never forget - Kennedy's a DEMOCRAT and all that that means.

Bob Boyd said...

Kennedy's habit sounds healthy and grounding. What should he be doing with that time?

Logging his momentary emotions and compiling a diary of his feelings on his phone?

Bob Boyd said...

The First MAGA Democrat

If he gets enough support, he'll become the first Democrat Hitler.

The Crack Emcee said...

Anyone who knew Robert F Kennedy Jr before the pandemic will not trust him after it

The same thing goes for anyone who knew Marianne Williamson before AIDS

PM said...

Agree with Lexington upstream: it's kind of a Catholic thing, mostly, to ponder what those before you might do in a situation. It's a humbling way of calming the mind. Doing it can be helpful; talking about it is not, not in this world of prideful know-it-alls.

RigelDog said...

Guess I'm nuttier than a PayDay candy bar because I often go through a mental list of my own dear departed friends and relatives when I lay my head down at night. I pray simply that God will have mercy on them and on me when it's my turn. I also can't help but use a mental Boston accent when I let God know that I'm addressing the afterlife of the Depahhhted.

Free Manure While You Wait! said...

"The First MAGA Democrat"

So MAGA is the new "gate"?

Free Manure While You Wait! said...

"And Donald Trump acting (badly) as if he is a good and caring human being who gives the barest shit about anyone or anything but himself, feeding his ego, and fattening his bank account."

Anyone else wonder if there is a Robert Cook Comment Generator online somewhere.

Oh, I do owe you an apology Mr. Cook. I said a comment of yours was asinine. What I meant to say is that it was either naïve or obtuse. You said that hate speech laws are unconstitutional. That is no longer true

Mitchell, 508 U.S. 476 (1993), was a case in which the United States Supreme Court held that enhanced penalties for hate crimes do not violate criminal defendants' First Amendment rights. It was a landmark precedent pertaining to First Amendment free speech arguments for hate crime legislation.

However, irrespective of what the court claims in its convoluted decision, the only way the State can determine a crime was motivated by hate and therefore a "hate crime", is by examining the speech of the accused, or the speech of those with whom the accused associates. There is no other way. Therefore, per the SCOTUS, hate speech is now constitutionally unprotected speech and can land you in prison.

So while you can claim hate speech laws are unconstitutional, reality tells us otherwise.

But don't feel bad, there are a great many people who find reality difficult.

Assistant Village Idiot said...

I talk to the dead all the time. This time they can't get away and have to listen.

Sometimes I try and say something nice.

Tina Trent said...

Very touching. Is he running for dog walker or president?

What are his policies about people walking across our border?

I can't believe so many idiots are falling for this curated drivel.

Tina Trent said...

Some questions: does RFK Jr. think of Martha Moxley? After all, he worked vigorously to defend his cousin in that murder, even writing an essay and a book blaming other men and the victim herself. You should read them.

Does he think of his then-wife, mother of four of his children and raising two of his other children, Mary Kennedy, who hanged herself in despair when he left her for actress Cheryl Hines, his current wife? He and Hines were at an awards show in Hollywood when his wife Mary, who was caring for their children, hanged herself.

His own mother denounced him for abandoning Mary in such a cruel and public way, and blamed him for her death.

Does he think of Mary Jo Kopechne, whom his uncle Ted killed? Does he think of his brother David, whom he got hooked on drugs at a very early age, who later overdosed and died?

Does he think about abandoning his first wife and lying to his second wife about his current martial status? Does he think about the dozens of affairs he has had while married to his first and second wives?

Does he think about abusing and forcing his second wife to have threesomes, essentially raping her?

Does he think about dosing his pets with psychedelics?

Does he think about being advanced to Ivy League schools and given prestigious posts after being kicked out of multiple schools for extreme drug use and arrests that would ruin any other law student? That he was shooting heroin and failed the Bar twice while being given a privileged position in the Manhattan DA's office, yet still was permitted to practice law?

What is motivating you intellectual teenyboppers? His chest hair? He has never taken responsibility for anyone he has destroyed in his life, just like his father and his uncles.

Robert Cook said...

"I do owe you an apology Mr. Cook. I said a comment of yours was asinine. What I meant to say is that it was either naïve or obtuse. You said that hate speech laws are unconstitutional. That is no longer true"

It is still unconstitutional, whatever current jurisprudence may have decreed or current law permits.